Trick or Treat/Bible?

[chubbdarter]

Anti-Halloween campaign no trick


A religious group plans to hand out bibles this Halloween


Updated: Fri Oct. 28 2011 17:27:09

ctvcalgary.ca

Calgary children trick-or-treating Monday night may get more than candy in their loot bags.


Local Christian groups are celebrating "Jesus-ween" with their parishioners handing out bibles to kids when they show up at the door looking for sweets.


Jesus-ween was created by a Calgary pastor and its mission is to spread the word of the gospel.


Christians are also encouraged to take the "evil" out of Halloween by skipping ghoulish costumes and wearing white instead.


The group is spreading their message through social media, including Facebook, where thousands of people are showing support.

CTV Calgary asked some Calgarians for their opinions on Jesusween, with most opposed to the idea.

•"I think you should keep tradition as it was, without changing those costumes and other things. It's fun for kids."
•"You have to choose your own religion so I'm not really in agreement with it."
•"I'm atheist, don't believe in God, so I don't think kids should be pushed into things they don't believe in."
•"I'm not really religious, so I'd rather have candy but I guess it's cool, promoting their religion."


Organizers behind Jesusween say about 200 bibles will be distributed in Calgary Monday night.


Bibles will be handed out across Canada, the U.S., and the U.K.

[Rod1960]

....no chance of those houses getting egged.

[HunterDave]

WHAT!!!! No Koran's? Allah-ween even sounds better! Someone's gonna get egg'd! :sHa_sarcasticlol:

[catnthehat]

There is a problem here - Hallowe'en was around LONG before the christains got organized!!:sign0161:
Maybe a bunch of fellas should get dressed up as Free Masons and go to those houses!!:sHa_sarcasticlol:
Cat

[Rod1960]

There is a problem here - Hallowe'en was around LONG before the christains got organized!!:sign0161:
Maybe a bunch of fellas should get dressed up as Free Masons and go to those houses!!:sHa_sarcasticlol:
Cat

Should I just wear what I usually do to a meeting?

[fordtruckin]

I remember going around when I was a kid gettin donations for UNICEF on halloween. I usually ended up with more candy than the other kids because I was helping the needy and the houses I went to were suprised a kid in the 1st and 2nd grade would do that.

[catnthehat]

Should I just wear what I usually do to a meeting?

Oh, yes, ESPECIALLY if you have the very evil DDGM regalia!:sHa_sarcasticlol:
Cat

[mr.pike]

They asked for it, Halloween has always Been a reason for Kids to dress up, run around and collect as much candy/treats as they can; FOR FUN! Good thing kids aren't dumb and will not give this more attention than the 2 minutes wasted getting a bible rather than a handful of treats!! Halloween is one of the last celebrations left that everybody can go out and enjoy themselves without having to worry about religion/ politics/ or offending dogs ,cats, zombies, vampires, superheroes, monsters, princesses and anyone else who might get offended. The priest should organize a soup diner for homeless or a bottle drive, and leave the kids alone!

[J.B.]

They asked for it, Halloween has always Been a reason for Kids to dress up, run around and collect as much candy/treats as they can; FOR FUN! Good thing kids aren't dumb and will not give this more attention than the 2 minutes wasted getting a bible rather than a handful of treats!! Halloween is one of the last celebrations left that everybody can go out and enjoy themselves without having to worry about religion/ politics/ or offending dogs ,cats, zombies, vampires, superheroes, monsters, princesses and anyone else who might get offended. The priest should organize a soup diner for homeless or a bottle drive, and leave the kids alone!

But you see Mr. Pike even adults are becoming obsessed with it now. it has turned into a comercialized glorification of death. I personally find it rather sick. theres 8 families mourning the death of teenage children in two albertan communities(magrath, and the football players) - and the guy down the street has a cemetery set up in his front yard? pathetic. what is this world coming too.

and that kids wanna dress up and collect candy? sure no big dea i dont have a prob with that; in days past it was nothing more than that, but what halloween has been turned is disgusting in my mind.

[nick0danger]

I would see if the bible would break there window if i got one.

[chasingtail]

Who gives a crap?, if you don't want the bible throw it out. Better than strychnine candy apples.

[npauls]

I would see if the bible would break there window if i got one.

I am with you on this one. If my kid was given a bible on Halloween I would give it back to them through a window.

All these religions pushing their beliefs on children is just as bad as cigarette and booze companies doing the same thing in my opinion. Society just seems to get worse every day.

[Boss442]

Come on people, all these "Religous Nuts" want to do is turn your child into thier own little................."Zombies"

[hal53]

Hard to believe (or understand) some of the responses.......WOW!!!!!!

[eastcoast]

I would collect them for guy fawkes night, which is the 6th:scared0018:

[tullfan]

I bet if you were walking down the street wearing a white gown, face mask, and a pointed hood while holding a bible, somebody might have something to say about that. I guess wearing whit isn't all that great either. A fella just can't catch a break.

Tullfan

[hal53]

I would collect them for guy fawkes night, which is the 6th:scared0018:

There's a good idea....if memory serves me ... a guy in Europe did that in the mid-30's, right after he institued a gun registration for the safety of the people....burn the books and register the guns....Nice EC.....got your Liberal lawn sign out still????

[G Kenworth]

catnthehat There is a problem here - Hallowe'en was around LONG before the christains got organized!!


Christianity has been around for @ 2000 years, how long has halloween? Or are you talking about the demons Jesus was casting out of people??:47b20s0:

[avb3]

There's a good idea....if memory serves me ... a guy in Europe did that in the mid-30's, right after he institued a gun registration for the safety of the people....burn the books and register the guns....Nice EC.....got your Liberal lawn sign out still????

I really don't care what or who you view as holy.

I really do care if you want to push your view to me or my family.

We all develop our own spirituality. Some choose to follow teachings in "revealed texts" such as the Bible, the Torah, the Koran, the Book of Mormon or the teachings of Buddha.

Those all have circular references as to why only they are the true word in spirituality. If you choose to have faith, great. But don't try and tell the rest of the world that your faith is the only one and the true one because which ever "revealed text" your faith adheres to told you so.

Others (and I would suggest many are on this board) have a significant communion with nature, and a deep feeling of understanding of life cycles and interrelationships between plants, earth, sky, animals, humans and the universe.

Those observations ring true, and are known to be universal truths, not because a book told them so, but because they can see, live and feel those universal truths.

That may or may not trigger a spirituality with in them, or reinforce an existing faith.

And if it does trigger a spirituality, most who are so blessed keep it to themselves. It is THEIR experience, and not something to be foisted on others as the "truth".

Shouldn't we all be that way?

[eastcoast]

There's a good idea....if memory serves me ... a guy in Europe did that in the mid-30's, right after he institued a gun registration for the safety of the people....burn the books and register the guns....Nice EC.....got your Liberal lawn sign out still????

do you go to sleep thinking about hitler?

[DarkAisling]

But you see Mr. Pike even adults are becoming obsessed with it now. it has turned into a comercialized glorification of death. I personally find it rather sick.

I find that is nothing more than an excuse for generally respectable ladies to put on horrendously trashy costumes in an attempt to prove that they're just as hot now as they were 20 years ago.

[graham1]

I find that is nothing more than an excuse for generally respectable ladies to put on horrendously trashy costumes in an attempt to prove that they're just as hot now as they were 20 years ago.

Gotta love the halloween parties!:evilgrin:

[deadeye]

Hard to believe (or understand) some of the responses.......WOW!!!!!!

x2

Christian values, principles, beliefs made Canada, USA etc the best countries in the world where you have the freedom to say the nonsense you are posting here. I can't believe the anger you people appear to have. Would you rather live in Iraq, China, Somolia where if you said things like this about their religions would get you killed?

[DarkAisling]

Gotta love the halloween parties!:evilgrin:

:lol: You must hang with a different crowd than me!

[Ken07AOVette]

Good grief.

It's not about death and hookers for everyone.

We have had little chickens, lego men, ninjas, Mario and luigi, dinosaurs, hockey players, hunters, robots, sesame street characters, superheros....


None of the guys bitching did it when they were kids? Ya right.


Unwad the panties, this is for the little guys.

[kronk]

Just throwing it out there...and I might go to hell for this... but halloween is kind of a christian thing... Jesus is the original zombie..

[Redfrog]

Hard to believe (or understand) some of the responses.......WOW!!!!!!

X2 WOW!


I had a long dissertation prepeared about this then I realized I broke my givadamn this morning.:)

[catnthehat]

Christianity has been around for @ 2000 years, how long has halloween? Or are you talking about the demons Jesus was casting out of people??:47b20s0:

That is NOT the Christianity I was talking about.

I was talking about the particular type of Christianity ( or Christians) that that decide that stuff is wrong due to their own agenda, political correctness, or whatever it is they use to decide what they do not like is wrong.

Cat

[Rod1960]

That is NOT the Christianity I was talking about.

I was talking about the particular type of Christianity ( or Christians) that that decide that stuff is wrong due to their own agenda, political correctness, or whatever it is they use to decide what they do not like is wrong.
Cat

Amen.

[diamonddave]

x2 I like the way you think cat!!

[Sundancefisher]

It seems some people would rather have everyone in Mennonite or Amish uniform. No variability and all conforming to someone's ideal image.

Canada is not about all looking like Russian workers or religious groups. I don't see anyone complaining about Halloween.

When people start taking something as innocent as a kids holiday personally...wow...that is scarier than me in a playboy bunny outfit.:scared::scared:

As outdoorsmen...should we not be giving out a copy of Alberta Outdoorsmen magazines or fishing regulations as well as a kit kat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg&ob=av2e

I want an Amish costume...

[mooseknuckle]

I find that is nothing more than an excuse for generally respectable ladies to put on horrendously trashy costumes in an attempt to prove that they're just as hot now as they were 20 years ago.

Amen to that!!

[Sundancefisher]

classic Halloween music video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA

[Rod1960]

classic Halloween music video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA

I was hoping 'Monster Mash' would open. Imagine my disappointment. :)

[Toirtis]

Christianity has been around for @ 2000 years, how long has halloween?

A good 5000 years, actually.

[Toirtis]

But you see Mr. Pike even adults are becoming obsessed with it now. it has turned into a comercialized glorification of death. I personally find it rather sick.

That would be Dia del los Muertos....Halloween is about the closeness of this and the spirit world, celebrating those that have died, and warding off death and evil.

theres 8 families mourning the death of teenage children in two albertan communities(magrath, and the football players) - and the guy down the street has a cemetery set up in his front yard?

Sad, and the proximity of the display may be distressing to the families to a degree, but that is an unfortunate coincidence, and I am sure that there are all sorts of things around their community that are going to affect them similarly....like real cemeteries, funeral homes, anything football, teenagers, etc.

but what halloween has been turned is disgusting in my mind.

Far too commercialised, like most holidays....Christmas is even more sickening.

[Sundancefisher]

I was hoping 'Monster Mash' would open. Imagine my disappointment. :)

Sorry...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxcM3nCsglA

:sHa_shakeshout::sHa_shakeshout::sHa_shakeshout::s Ha_shakeshout:

[Sundancefisher]

A good 5000 years, actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

Wikipedia attributes this most like to the changing of the Christian name from All Hallows Day as part of All Saints Day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Saints

This put it starting about the same time as Christianity and deriving therefrom.

It also mentioned that most Christian folk can separate fun and imaginary ghosts, witches and giant bunnies as being fun dress up activity for kids.

I know someone who is very religious that refused to let their kids read or see Harry Potter because of the pretend witches and warlocks. To each there own.

[fear 666]

I remember going around when I was a kid gettin donations for UNICEF on halloween. I usually ended up with more candy than the other kids because I was helping the needy and the houses I went to were suprised a kid in the 1st and 2nd grade would do that.

I remember doing that too. I got more candy and had more money in my pocket at the end of the night then the rest of my friends.










I kid I kid, lol.

Anyway let kids be kids and have fun playing dress up. I think we have lost it as a nation when adult bible humpers ram their stupid beliefs down kids throats. For the people who think it's stupid for adults to dress up and party, who the hell cares, people deserve one night to dress in weird outfits and have fun. I mean come on, it only lasts one night and happens once a year get a grip.

[greylynx]

Come on people, all these "Religous Nuts" want to do is turn your child into thier own little................."Zombies"

Maybe you should take one of these bibles to work and sit with your clients who are a very captive audience, and read the ten commandments over and over to them.

Sheriff Joe does that quite often at his little campsite for bad folks in Arizona.

[Gust]

I remember doing that too. I got more candy and had more money in my pocket then the rest of my friends.
I kid I kid, lol.

Hey Fear 666 ? The neighbour of the beast is 668.

Getting a bible aint that bad,,, in my bachelor days and having room mates, when payday would roll around your brain goes into that mode of beer vs food and everything else is way down on the list like rent and toilet paper,,,, so there were two books on the john ready for when the roll ran out, the bible (St James Version) and mein kampf. The bible had that paper quality like the old bathroom stalls where you got a ticket at a time, not bad but the mein kampf 3rd edition with calibri #3 font in french was amazing,,,, though I must say the 5th re-printing was a close second. My jewish room mate lifted the Torah from his Saturday synagogue studies, and you would tink it would make great toilet ticket's being a big roll and such, but parchment and hand ground ink leaves more of a rash than squirrels do while out in thew bush. Thankfully, we weren't so young and stupid that we were reduced to using sanskrit, well maybe the gals who couldn't figure out why we had so many books in the bathroom.

[avb3]

Maybe you should take one of these bibles to work and sit with your clients who are a very captive audience, and read the ten commandments over and over to them.

Sheriff Joe does that quite often at his little campsite for bad folks in Arizona.

Or read to them Numbers 31:1-54.

You know, the one about Moses telling his followers to go out and kill the neighboring tribe.

All of them, men, women and children.

Oh, and if they find any virgins, they can keep them for themselves... don't have to kill them.

So, being respectful and dutiful followers, they went out and killed the ordered fellow human beings. Sort of like Nazi's you know, "I was just following orders".

And they even followed the order of keeping of virgins! All 32,000 of them.

It must be true, because the Bible said so.

So, children, what lesson do we learn from this? :snapoutofit:

[Boss442]

Maybe you should take one of these bibles to work and sit with your clients who are a very captive audience, and read the ten commandments over and over to them.

Sheriff Joe does that quite often at his little campsite for bad folks in Arizona.

Oh believe me they do! They always seem to find Jesus when they come in!! Then they prey/manipulate on the gullible and brain dead idiots who volunteer and administer programs.

[Sundancefisher]

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[Gust]

Wow...this is one thread sure going a weird direction.

So what about

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It is going in a weird direction.

[jacobin]

Just throwing it out there...and I might go to hell for this... but halloween is kind of a christian thing... Jesus is the original zombie..

Kronk you might like this.

Went to a halloween party a few years back and it was a "Zombie" theme, so I went as Jesus.

I had long hair and a beard, so I just found a white robe, sandals, and a rope to tie around my waist.

What amazed me was very few people got the costume!

Jacobin

[slough shark]

Personally I think it is a little silly to give out bibles to people who aren't looking for one, it would be a much better idea to give the option of a free bible if they want one but also give candy in my mind anyways that way they aren't being wasted, I don't think that during trick or treating is necessarily the right arena to give out bibles but that is just my opinion(fyi I am a christian who will be giving out candy only).
On a somewhat related note it seems here there are a few people who seem to have had Christianity foisted upon themselves and their children. I honestly haven't seen a lot of this foisting going on in practice myself (unless I am conditioned to it) I read about it from time to time in the paper about what someone or some group are planning on doing but haven't actually seen it happen in practice myself (unless of course you are in church where it would kinda be odd to not talk about christianity). I actually see in practice Atheism and post-modernism being foisted on others. How many of us at work are not supposed to say "merry Christmas"? how many are not supposed to talk about religious beliefs at work or can get in serious trouble for mentioning any more than you are a christian (not that I planned on standing on a soap box anytime soon)? How many TV shows have you watched lately that make a mockery of Christianity? How many of you would look down on someone for not going out to the bar and drinking with the boys after work, How many would call someone a prude for waiting until you are married? I could go on for a while but it seems that nowadays Christians are held to a double standard, we get reamed out whenever we say or do anything and at the same time are mocked, and are forced to accept all sorts of things against our beliefs.

Rant over and hope to see a bunch of kids out dressed all funny and whatnot on monday where they will receive candy from me and my wife!

[Toirtis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

Wikipedia attributes this most like to the changing of the Christian name from All Hallows Day as part of All Saints Day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Saints

This put it starting about the same time as Christianity and deriving therefrom.

But Samhain, from which it is derived, predates Christianity by 2800 years, easily....same thing, different name.

[Sporty]

I find it incredibly humorous that some posters have ranted in the other Halloween thread that we "can't" say Merry Christmas anymore yet are offended by this group handing out bibles.

These threads are great, thanks for the great reads!

:scared0018:

[outwalking]

I dunno about this bible thing.

I'm not religious, though I respect others in their beliefs. I bought my house from a very religious man - he gave me the whole spiel, God bless you and all that, and invited me to church, and I had no problem with that, but I declined, as nicely as I could.

I guess the point I just tried to make was that you don't have to be a doink about it.

If I had a kid, which I don't, and someone tried giving us a bible on Halloween, I think I'd ask my kid if he/she wanted it, and if not, politely hand it back.

[graham1]

:lol: You must hang with a different crowd than me!

Maybe your standards are higher than mine.:medium-smiley-035:

[graham1]

Good grief.

It's not about death and hookers for everyone.

We have had little chickens, lego men, ninjas, Mario and luigi, dinosaurs, hockey players, hunters, robots, sesame street characters, superheros....


None of the guys bitching did it when they were kids? Ya right.


Unwad the panties, this is for the little guys.

Stop it with that common sense!! This is the internet. We are here to wank and complain. Not look at things sensibly.
My guys are going as a police riot officer and a hockey player.
I'm sure however, that deep down they're thinking death and hookers.

[greylynx]

Oh believe me they do! They always seem to find Jesus when they come in!! Then they prey/manipulate on the gullible and brain dead idiots who volunteer and administer programs.

I believe every word you say.

I was sort of joking with you. Glad you picked up on it.

[duffy4]

Hard to believe (or understand) some of the responses.......WOW!!!!!!

Ye it looks like there are a fair number of evil people on here.

[Big Daddy Badger]

The whole thing seems just silly to me.

If folks want to hand out Bibles...fine.
If they want to give out crayons...pens....childrens books, candy, hotdogs or whatever fine....

Parents are responsible and able to remove and discard anything they feel is unsafe or inappropriate.

Thing that bothers me is the whole anti-halloween thing and the bans on "scary" costumes.

Sure... some might be a bit much but kids shouldn't have to dress up like my little pony, barney, sponge bob because some boob things that halloween should be be all huggy feely.

It's supposed to be...just fun...and...it's for the kids. If they want to go out as freddy kruger, dracula, a cowboy or the devil...they should be able to...
If they want to dress up as an indian....a jihadist...Hitler or a ladybug that should be OK to.

It's about community. We just love seeing the kids out their all excited and rosy cheeked...struggling with a locker load of candy.....scurrying from house to house.
When we were kids...the scary houses were the best ones to go to and even though some of those folks would find a new way to scare the bjesus out of us every year...we kept going back because it was all part of the fun and excitement.

What's next... no fireworks on Canada Day because loud noises might frighten some over sensitive cry baby?

Why do we (the majority) always have to accommodate the PC people least prepared to deal with real life rather than work towards solving their "special"problems instead?

Seems like their are an awful lot of people out there trying to make being a kid suck more than it already does in the interest of protecting their fragile little minds and bodies...

Kids are a lot more resilient than most people give em credit for and they need opportunities for self discovery, exploration, and expression that isn't being hindered by a bunch of overprotective goofs.

Let them wear their scary costumes or whatever costume their parents feel is OK...go to the park and the store... ride their bikes and climb trees, play hockey and box or they will end up being just like the milk sops that come up with these BS ideas we all rail against.

[Git r Done]

The lamest thing i have heard about in a while.:snapoutofit:

[avb3]

Seeing so many people get their panties in a knot about Halloween, and the comments about trashy dressed women, I found this video just sooooo appropriate.

Watch out for the panties!

And DO watch it to the end :)

http://youtu.be/88w9ybua4i0

[Big Daddy Badger]

Seeing so many people get their panties in a knot about Halloween, and the comments about trashy dressed women, I found this video just sooooo appropriate.

Watch out for the panties!

And DO watch it to the end :)

http://youtu.be/88w9ybua4i0

Yup great pumpkins...

[Rod1960]

Yup great pumpkins...

Speakin' of witch.....

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo106/sigp226rfan/elvira_1.jpg

[Big Daddy Badger]

She makes me believe ...there is a God...

[Classic_Cool]

x2

Christian values, principles, beliefs made Canada, USA etc the best countries in the world where you have the freedom to say the nonsense you are posting here. I can't believe the anger you people appear to have. Would you rather live in Iraq, China, Somolia where if you said things like this about their religions would get you killed?

Uh..no they didn't. If you go back to the old world before North America, Christianity was just as repressive as any religion of the time. North American Christianity was in essence a different religion created in the balance between the old belief system and the practicality needed for building a new world. People built houses first and churches 2nd which is the way it should be.

I don't have a problem with people believing what they want to believe. I do have a problem when they try to tell other people what's true and what's not. Children aren't fully able to grasp a belief system when they're young, hence the term "impressionable youth". Teenage rebellion aside kids will believe what they're told to believe and depending on how ingrained it is they may or may not ever form their own ideas about the nature of the universe.

In my opinion if a religion wants to earn respect and admiration they should focus their efforts on helping the community and let people come to them. If they deserve to survive as a belief system then they will based on that. I don't like it when they feel the need to get proactive and "fix" everyone's soul.

I saw an ad for Islam on the damm bus this morning and a few weeks ago I was called out by an Islam salesman at the mall. A belief is a belief, not a fact. They should keep it to themselves unless someone asks.

[Redfrog]

I have to laugh at some of the posts. Arguing religion is only slightly more productive than beating someone to improve their morale.

My favorite comments:

"I don't care what someone believes, they shouldn't tell other what to believe."

Isn't that what this statement does. Some religions preach 'spreading the 'word'' as part of a believer's responsibilities.

"Religion has destroyed the world"

But there are millions upon millions killed by governments who outlawed religion.

In both cases it wasn't religion or lack of that killed millions it was corrupt evil humans doing what we do.

I could go on but why bother. I\ll be taking my grand kids out today for a traditional Hallowe'en and we'll laugh and have tons of fun and eat too much candy and hopefully build some pleasant memories. the world could use more pleasant memories.
Gotta love these digital cameras.

[albertadave]

Speakin' of witch.....

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo106/sigp226rfan/elvira_1.jpg

She's a huge supporter of PETA, kind of lost her appeal when I found that out.