Think your good at scoring Tcam bucks? [Archive]

Scottie

11-26-2011, 10:11 PM

Well with my season pretty much wrapped up for the year I figured I'd through a challenge out there to all the trail cam guys. I got a few good bucks on cam this year, this was the 3rd biggest and when he walked out after hunting for 13 days straight I couldn't pass his up.
Here's the Tcam pic take a guess at the score on the hoof.
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/383339_10150386507889137_500739136_8045794_6297391 83_n.jpg
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/315740_10150393654644137_500739136_8084537_3465578 1_n.jpg

bsmitty27

11-26-2011, 11:13 PM

I'm not good at scoring. but I will say 163. Nice deer.

just_dave

11-26-2011, 11:33 PM

133.

ishootbambi

11-27-2011, 12:19 AM

cant tell if you can see everything on them pics or not.....but dave oughta be close. ill go with 136.

KegRiver

11-27-2011, 02:43 AM

He's nice but too many deductions to score high, and he's only a six pointer.

I would guess he's 154 to 156 with a gross around 160.

It looks to me like he could be a bit on the narrow side. I can't tell from the photos so if I'm wrong about that then he could go as high as 165 gross and possibly 155 net.

I gather that you have scored him. I look forward to seeing what you found.
I'll tell you one thing for sure, he's bigger then my eight point 2011 buck.
I scored him at 154 gross and 145 net. My measurements probibly weren't very good, but good enough to know it wasn't worth having him officially scored.

Don K

11-27-2011, 03:37 AM

I'd say he's going somewhere around 140 gross.

finner-duramax

11-27-2011, 07:17 AM

138 3/8

The Bit Runner.

11-27-2011, 07:38 AM

I'd say he's going somewhere around 140 gross.

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Jameson340

11-27-2011, 07:47 AM

I think he gross's around.... 149 typical, nets 130.

pottymouth

11-27-2011, 07:49 AM

134

super7mag

11-27-2011, 08:07 AM

with out g4's he will not make 150 gross, he has good mass that will help but is not overly wide, has a sticker for a 3"-4" deduction, safe to say 140's gross netting around the 135.

Scottie

11-27-2011, 08:30 AM

When I first seen the pics I was with most of your guys thinking mid 140's, but when he walked out on Thursday morning at 30 yards and hit the ground shortly after I was kind of surprised when I walked up. The pics don't show the matching sticker off this other G2 or the small point off his base on the other side. He had just over 9" of sticker points and mass measurements were all fairly high, but like super7mag said he's not very wide. I haven't got the good field pics loaded yet but here's a few.
Gross score 156" didn't bother with a net score but I'm sure it would be around 140"
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/320709_10150421011784137_500739136_8178320_2083242 385_n.jpg
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/321213_10150421012779137_500739136_8178324_1763427 35_n.jpg

twytter

11-27-2011, 09:44 AM

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twytter

11-27-2011, 09:45 AM

I'd say he's going somewhere around 140 gross.

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jungleboy

11-27-2011, 10:00 AM

Looks like about 70 to 80 lbs of boned meat depending where he's hit :)

KegRiver

11-27-2011, 10:15 AM

I was high by 4 inches. I'm happy with that.
Pretty hard to get close with only one angle to judge from.

sheephunter

11-27-2011, 10:17 AM

cant tell if you can see everything on them pics or not.....but dave oughta be close. ill go with 136.

Ya, I can see one brow tine but not the other but assuming it's there, I'm with you bambi. It takes a monster 4x4 to break 140.

Sledhead71

11-27-2011, 10:21 AM

Ya, I can see one brow tine but not the other but assuming it's there, I'm with you bambi. It takes a monster 4x4 to break 140.

They are certainly out there, filmed three different old warriers this season that were well above 150... A team member tipped over a magestic giant this season that was a touch over 160 on film.

Bambi knows of two of these, could post trail cam pictures is anyone is interested...

sheephunter

11-27-2011, 10:26 AM

They are certainly out there, filmed three different old warriers this season that were well above 150... A team member tipped over a magestic giant this season that was a touch over 160 on film.

Bambi knows of two of these, could post trail cam pictures is anyone is interested...

LOL...please reread what I posted.....I never said they weren't there sled...just said it took a heck of a 4x4 to break 140. It does. Obviously you saw some. I've got a 4x4 at home that's in the high 150s. Ya, I know they are there but it takes a big 4x4 to break 140...I don't think the one in the picture does....do you?

alacringa

11-27-2011, 10:34 AM

He's got some cool junk...but I'm with others in saying he's not over 140...I'd say 132.

Scottie

11-27-2011, 10:35 AM

LOL...please reread what I posted.....I never said they weren't there sled...just said it took a heck of a 4x4 to break 140. It does. Obviously you saw some. I've got a 4x4 at home that's in the high 150s. Ya, I know they are there but it takes a big 4x4 to break 140...I don't think the one in the picture does....do you?

You could be right, I don't have the numbers in front of me but I'll grab them and tell you the net score. I agree that it does take a big 4x4 to break the 140 mark but with this deer being a 6x7 with a typical 5x4 frame. I guess you'd have to score him as a non-typ to get the 156" gross, I know the deductions killed his net score.

Sledhead71

11-27-2011, 10:36 AM

LOL...please reread what I posted.....I never said they weren't there sled...just said it took a heck of a 4x4 to break 140. It does. Obviously you saw some. I've got a 4x4 at home that's in the high 150s. Ya, I know they are there but it takes a big 4x4 to break 140...I don't think the one in the picture does....do you?

Sorry Sheep,

I'm not one to comment on someones else measurements, some tapes get stretched, some don't. Really, inches are great, but memories last a lifetime..

Congrats to the original poster, great trophy !

KegRiver

11-27-2011, 10:41 AM

You could be right, I don't have the numbers in front of me but I'll grab them and tell you the net score. I agree that it does take a big 4x4 to break the 140 mark but with this deer being a 6x7 with a typical 5x4 frame. I guess you'd have to score him as a non-typ to get the 156" gross, I know the deductions killed his net score.

Ot takes a pretty ugly rack to loose ten inches to deductions. He'll go over 145 if you are right about the Gross.

sheephunter

11-27-2011, 10:45 AM

Sorry Sheep,

I'm not one to comment on someones else measurements, some tapes get stretched, some don't. Really, inches are great, but memories last a lifetime..

Congrats to the original poster, great trophy !

No measurements were posted...I was just guessing like the rest. I could easily be way out to lunch.

sheephunter

11-27-2011, 10:47 AM

You could be right, I don't have the numbers in front of me but I'll grab them and tell you the net score. I agree that it does take a big 4x4 to break the 140 mark but with this deer being a 6x7 with a typical 5x4 frame. I guess you'd have to score him as a non-typ to get the 156" gross, I know the deductions killed his net score.

Ya, I was just commenting on his main frame. I see he's got some character points for sure. Either way, looks like an old timer to me and one heck of a buck to take. Sorry about the brief hijack...it was just an innocent comment that was misinterpreted. Back to our regular scheduled programming. ;)

Scottie

11-27-2011, 11:11 AM

Grabbed the measurement and entered it into B&C my numbers were 1.75" off. Gross score of 154.25" and net score of 139".

Scottie

11-27-2011, 11:41 AM

just_dave

11-27-2011, 01:21 PM

Didn't even look like there was a brow on his right in the first photo, lol. I'd have given him a few more inches.

Good bucks there, Scottie.

super7mag

11-27-2011, 02:13 PM

Ot takes a pretty ugly rack to loose ten inches to deductions. He'll go over 145 if you are right about the Gross.

Actually 10" is easy, especially with stickers, as the stickers are not added into gross inches but are deducted from the gross. Doesn't matter anyways, beauty of a buck congrats to the OP. no shame in puttin him on the ground whatsoever.

KegRiver

11-27-2011, 03:22 PM

Actually 10" is easy, especially with stickers, as the stickers are not added into gross inches but are deducted from the gross. Doesn't matter anyways, beauty of a buck congrats to the OP. no shame in puttin him on the ground whatsoever.

I didn't say it was hard. Have you ever heard of a non typical ?

super7mag

11-27-2011, 06:19 PM

I didn't say it was hard. Have you ever heard of a non typical ?

uhm!! Whats that?:thinking-006:
http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j385/honkerhitter/kensbuck2010.jpg

KegRiver

11-27-2011, 11:08 PM

uhm!! Whats that?:thinking-006:
http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j385/honkerhitter/kensbuck2010.jpg

That sir is what I call one ugly rack." Have you figured it out yet ?

KegRiver

11-27-2011, 11:17 PM

Here's the number 2 buck on the hit list, I think this deer could a gooder next year if he makes the winter!
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/386836_10150386914109137_500739136_8047305_2117394 245_n.jpg
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/315595_10150386914464137_500739136_8047310_1852659 271_n.jpg
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374760_10150386914729137_500739136_8047311_2816782 46_n.jpg

I no expert but my guess is he will most likely not be better next year, unless you decide to score him as nontypical.

It is my understanding that once they get to this point they loose length, add mass and add nontypical features. Were he a clean typical at this point I would agree, because of the mass he could add.
The loss in length is typically minimal from what I understand.

With the number of stickers this guy has, assuming that the books I've read on the subject are close to correct, he would loose too much as a typical and not make enough points to be a very interesting nontypical.

He's not ugly enough. LOL

ishootbambi

11-28-2011, 06:49 AM

I no expert but my guess is he will most likely not be better next year, unless you decide to score him as nontypical.

It is my understanding that once they get to this point they loose length, add mass and add nontypical features. Were he a clean typical at this point I would agree, because of the mass he could add.
The loss in length is typically minimal from what I understand.

With the number of stickers this guy has, assuming that the books I've read on the subject are close to correct, he would loose too much as a typical and not make enough points to be a very interesting nontypical.

He's not ugly enough. LOL

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