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BGSH
03-13-2012, 02:30 PM
Hit up the n.s.r this mourning, caught some walleye and lots of pike, one pike had these little black holes in him, looks like small black dots but the dots went into his body felt sorry for the small little guy.

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg495/shawnsami2/001-2.jpg
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg495/shawnsami2/002-4.jpg
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg495/shawnsami2/003-4.jpg
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg495/shawnsami2/004-3.jpg
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg495/shawnsami2/006-1.jpg

diseased pike?
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg495/shawnsami2/008-2.jpg
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg495/shawnsami2/009-2.jpg
All other pike caught looked like this
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg495/shawnsami2/010-2.jpg
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg495/shawnsami2/011-3.jpg
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg495/shawnsami2/012-1.jpg

canadiantdi
03-13-2012, 02:39 PM
He's only deceased if you killed him.

BeeGuy
03-13-2012, 02:42 PM
Diseased man, diseased.

BGSH
03-13-2012, 02:43 PM
Diseased man, diseased.

lol lots, missed that, thanks

BeeGuy
03-13-2012, 02:46 PM
looks like the fishin is pretty good there.

Are you bouncing those jigs off the bottom?

BGSH
03-13-2012, 02:49 PM
looks like the fishin is pretty good there.

Are you bouncing those jigs off the bottom?

Yes, and also ran into a cat stuck high up in a tree, i didnt want to climb up the tree to get him as he was to high up and dont really want to get scratched by a mad cat up in a tree.

GillieSuit
03-13-2012, 02:49 PM
The pike has black spot fungus. Nothing to worry about. Very common and very harmless.

Jamie Black R/T
03-13-2012, 03:07 PM
Yes, and also ran into a cat stuck high up in a tree, i didnt want to climb up the tree to get him as he was to high up and dont really want to get scratched by a mad cat up in a tree.

cats can climb down the same way they climbed up...no need to get all fireman up in here bud

BeeGuy
03-13-2012, 03:14 PM
The pike has black spot fungus. Nothing to worry about. Very common and very harmless.

Black Spot disease is caused by a digenic trematode and has been related to retarded growth and increased mortality, fortunately, not in humans.

This article on the life cycle of similar parasitic flat-worms from wiki might interest a few:

Life cycles

There is a bewildering array of variation on the complex digenean life cycle, and plasticity in this trait is probably a key to the group's success. In general, the life cycles may have two, three, or four obligate (necessary) hosts, sometimes with transport or paratenic hosts in between. The three-host life cycle is probably the most common. In almost all species, the first host in the life cycle is a mollusc.[citation needed] This has led to the inference that the ancestral digenean was a mollusc parasite and that vertebrate hosts were added subsequently.

The alternation of sexual and asexual generations is an important feature of digeneans. This phenomenon involves the presence of several discrete generations in one life-cycle.

A typical digenean trematode life cycle is as follows. Eggs leave the vertebrate host in faeces and use various strategies to infect the first intermediate host, in which sexual reproduction does not occur. Digeneans may infect the first intermediate host (usually a snail) by either passive or active means. The eggs of some digeneans, for example, are (passively) eaten by snails (or, rarely, by an annelid worm)[citation needed], in which they proceed to hatch. Alternatively, eggs may hatch in water to release an actively swimming, ciliated larva, the miracidium, which must locate and penetrate the body wall of the snail host.

After post-ingestion hatching or penetration of the snail, the miracidium metamorphoses into a simple, sac-like mother sporocyst. The mother sporocyst undergoes a round of internal asexual reproduction, giving rise to either rediae (sing. redia) or daughter sporocysts. The second generation is thus the daughter parthenita sequence. These in turn undergo further asexual reproduction, ultimately yielding large numbers of the second free-living stage, the cercaria (pl. cercariae).

Free-swimming cercariae leave the snail host and move through the aquatic or marine environment, often using a whip-like tail, though a tremendous diversity of tail morphology is seen. Cercariae are infective to the second host in the life cycle, and infection may occur passively (e.g., a fish consumes a cercaria) or actively (the cercaria penetrates the fish).

The life cycles of some digeneans include only two hosts, the second being a vertebrate. In these groups, sexual maturity occurs after the cercaria penetrates the second host, which is in this case also the definitive host. Two host life-cycles can be primary (there never was a third host) as in the Bivesiculidae, or secondary (there was at one time in evolutionary history a third host but it has been lost).

In three-host life cycles, cercariae develop in the second intermediate host into a resting stage, the metacercaria, which is usually encysted in a cyst of host and parasite origin, or encapsulated in a layer of tissue derived from the host only. This stage is infective to the definitive host. Transmission occurs when the definitive host preys upon an infected second intermediate host. Metacercariae excyst in the definitive host’s gut in response to a variety of physical and chemical signals, such as gut pH levels, digestive enzymes, temperature, etc. Once excysted, adult digeneans migrate to more or less specific sites in the definitive host and the life cycle repeats.

pickrel pat
03-13-2012, 06:31 PM
Black Spot disease is caused by a digenic trematode and has been related to retarded growth and increased mortality, fortunately, not in humans.

This article on the life cycle of similar parasitic flat-worms from wiki might interest a few:

Life cycles

There is a bewildering array of variation on the complex digenean life cycle, and plasticity in this trait is probably a key to the group's success. In general, the life cycles may have two, three, or four obligate (necessary) hosts, sometimes with transport or paratenic hosts in between. The three-host life cycle is probably the most common. In almost all species, the first host in the life cycle is a mollusc.[citation needed] This has led to the inference that the ancestral digenean was a mollusc parasite and that vertebrate hosts were added subsequently.

The alternation of sexual and asexual generations is an important feature of digeneans. This phenomenon involves the presence of several discrete generations in one life-cycle.

A typical digenean trematode life cycle is as follows. Eggs leave the vertebrate host in faeces and use various strategies to infect the first intermediate host, in which sexual reproduction does not occur. Digeneans may infect the first intermediate host (usually a snail) by either passive or active means. The eggs of some digeneans, for example, are (passively) eaten by snails (or, rarely, by an annelid worm)[citation needed], in which they proceed to hatch. Alternatively, eggs may hatch in water to release an actively swimming, ciliated larva, the miracidium, which must locate and penetrate the body wall of the snail host.

After post-ingestion hatching or penetration of the snail, the miracidium metamorphoses into a simple, sac-like mother sporocyst. The mother sporocyst undergoes a round of internal asexual reproduction, giving rise to either rediae (sing. redia) or daughter sporocysts. The second generation is thus the daughter parthenita sequence. These in turn undergo further asexual reproduction, ultimately yielding large numbers of the second free-living stage, the cercaria (pl. cercariae).

Free-swimming cercariae leave the snail host and move through the aquatic or marine environment, often using a whip-like tail, though a tremendous diversity of tail morphology is seen. Cercariae are infective to the second host in the life cycle, and infection may occur passively (e.g., a fish consumes a cercaria) or actively (the cercaria penetrates the fish).

The life cycles of some digeneans include only two hosts, the second being a vertebrate. In these groups, sexual maturity occurs after the cercaria penetrates the second host, which is in this case also the definitive host. Two host life-cycles can be primary (there never was a third host) as in the Bivesiculidae, or secondary (there was at one time in evolutionary history a third host but it has been lost).

In three-host life cycles, cercariae develop in the second intermediate host into a resting stage, the metacercaria, which is usually encysted in a cyst of host and parasite origin, or encapsulated in a layer of tissue derived from the host only. This stage is infective to the definitive host. Transmission occurs when the definitive host preys upon an infected second intermediate host. Metacercariae excyst in the definitive host’s gut in response to a variety of physical and chemical signals, such as gut pH levels, digestive enzymes, temperature, etc. Once excysted, adult digeneans migrate to more or less specific sites in the definitive host and the life cycle repeats.

oh..... lol...... some big werds in der!

FishingFrenzy
03-13-2012, 07:17 PM
oh..... lol...... some big werds in der!

You mean like "Maturity"? :sHa_sarcasticlol:

Jokes, jokes.. :sHa_shakeshout:


Nice walleye's BGSH!

pickrel pat
03-13-2012, 07:28 PM
You mean like "Maturity"? :sHa_sarcasticlol:

Jokes, jokes.. :sHa_shakeshout:


Nice walleye's BGSH!

ya.

Kim473
03-14-2012, 05:41 AM
That a new strain of pike that were introduced into the NSR. Speckilled pike.

WayneChristie
03-14-2012, 06:48 AM
12 gauge is great for removing cats from trees! :bad_boys_20:

kevinhits
03-14-2012, 11:48 AM
lol lots, missed that, thanks

Good one..I thought the title said deceased too...HAHA..Must be using the wrong side of my brain today:sHa_shakeshout:

YeeHaw
03-14-2012, 01:47 PM
12 gauge is great for removing cats from trees! :bad_boys_20:

Husqvarna or stihl products are also great for getting cats out of trees:scared0018: