Am I the only one?

[fishpro]

Just for fun - Am I the only one who gets annoyed by hearing suckers called suckerfish or do others find it annoying too? I mean really, you never hear people talking about catching a pikefish or a troutfish or a whitefishfish.

LOL does anyone have any other similar pet peeves?

[Gust]

Just for fun - Am I the only one who gets annoyed by hearing suckers called suckerfish or do others find it annoying too? I mean really, you never hear people talking about catching a pikefish or a troutfish or a whitefishfish.

LOL does anyone have any other similar pet peeves?

uhm, that's what makes you mad? I leave my socks in the freezer to kill stinkfoot fungus, we'd make great room mates. But I guess an extra word coupled creating an extra syllable could be construed as annoying.

Hey, did you see the herd of cow animals?:snapoutofit:

[BeeGuy]

I guess we could take it one step further.

The Catostomids of Alberta are as follows:

Quillback (Carpiodes cyprinus)

Silver Redhorse (Moxostoma anisurum)

Shorthead Redhorse (Moxostoma macrolepidotum)

Mountain Sucker (Catostomus platyrhynchus)

Longnose Sucker (Catostomus catostomus)

White Sucker (Catostomus commersoni)

Largescale Sucker (Catostomus macrocheilus)




The great thing about suckerfish is that they fight better than brown trout.

[Sundancefisher]

I guess we could take it one step further.

The Catostomids of Alberta are as follows:

Quillback (Carpiodes cyprinus)

Silver Redhorse (Moxostoma anisurum)

Shorthead Redhorse (Moxostoma macrolepidotum)

Mountain Sucker (Catostomus platyrhynchus)

Longnose Sucker (Catostomus catostomus)

White Sucker (Catostomus commersoni)

Largescale Sucker (Catostomus macrocheilus)




The great thing about suckerfish is that they fight better than brown trout.

Amen Brother Bee.

My best all time fight in Alberta was Quillback suckerfish from the NSR. Pound for pound...felt like a chinook on the line. I fished all day for them...the others around thought I was nuts as the walleye and goldeye and occasional pike was being caught.

[pickrel pat]

The great thing about suckerfish is that they fight better than brown trout.

taste better too!

[Scott N]

No offence intended to anyone on the board, but I don't like it when people refer to walleye as pickeral.

[BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES]

It really Po's me off when people refer to Walleye as Pickerel . Pickerel is a whole different species .

Pickerel - The average size for chain pickerel, however, is 24 inches to 30 inches .
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/2e6ce7cf.jpg
Pike -Northern Pike are usually between 2 and 7 pounds and 15 to 30 inches long.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/79276c98.jpg
Musky -Musky on average can be found from 8 to 46 inches in length 2 to 21 pounds.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/06b78854.jpg
Walleye - Average walleye is 14 to 20 inches , weighting 3.04 pounds to 6.00 pounds .
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/34e9a173.jpg

[gilbertslake]

Just for fun - Am I the only one who gets annoyed by hearing suckers called suckerfish or do others find it annoying too? I mean really, you never hear people talking about catching a pikefish or a troutfish or a whitefishfish.

LOL does anyone have any other similar pet peeves?

'Tis only right to refer to them as suckerfish, so as not to be confursed with the suckers trying to catch them

[pickrel pat]

i get annoyed at people who get annoyed at people that call walleye pickerel....:sHa_sarcasticlol:

[spaghetti]

I kinda get worried around people who seem to think Suckers are a menace/brag about all the aweful ways they're going to kill them or get rid of them..


They're a really nice fish, they put up a great fight, and they live in polluted water- whats not to like?

:scared:

[BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES]

i get annoyed at people who get annoyed at people that call walleye pickerel....:sHa_sarcasticlol:

You wouldnt be one of them guys would ya .

[Hellraiser]

X2 on the walleye/pickeral debate. Also annoys me when people refer to Pike as Jackfish!!!

[Hellraiser]

Back in Ontario, I used to refer to suckers as cutbait for catfish. Or pike bait.

[BeeGuy]

i get annoyed at people who get annoyed at people that call walleye pickerel....:sHa_sarcasticlol:

me too

if they dont like the fact that common names are not set in stone and any living thing can have several common names, there is a simple solution.

Call them what you want, or,

call them their only REAL name:

Sander vitreus


BTW, Pickeral is short for Yellow Pickeral, not Chain Pickeral, it is just as legitimate a common name as walleye.

Even more shocking is that this fish has even more common names where languages other than English are spoken. In this country alone there are many many people who only know this fish as dore (pronounced: door-eh).

The horror!!!!

There are a few situations where professional associations have given common names some legitimate standing.

These include the American Ornithologists Union and the Canadian Entomological society (off the top of my head). The reason for standardizing English and Common names is to increase efficiency in survey work, data entry, and data sharing, as well as making organisms more accessible to the public by removing the difficulty of their latin names.

hmm I better go see if the american fish guys have standardized any fish names!

[spaghetti]

X2 on the walleye/pickeral debate. Also annoys me when people refer to Pike as Jackfish!!!

My Uncle calls pike "Ukrainian Salmon."

[BeeGuy]

Buy this book for $60, and the next time the guy in your boat uses a fish name you dont accept, you can give him a wack with the book and push him overboard!



Common and Scientific Names of Fishes from the United States Canada and Mexico Sixth Edition (http://afsbooks.org/x51029xm)

[ironbadger]

x3 on the walleye/pickeral thing. I thought it was an ontario thing but I have heard others say it.
Tunafish has always gotten me. I guess it is to differentiate from the elusive tunabird or tunasnake.

Slough-shark is my favourite name for Esox.

[gilbertslake]

Tunafish has always gotten me.

Tuna also refers to a type of cactus. So for some, I guess, it needs to be qualified by adding fish.

[TheLegend]

It really Po's me off when people refer to Walleye as Pickerel . Pickerel is a whole different species .

Pickerel - The average size for chain pickerel, however, is 24 inches to 30 inches .
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/2e6ce7cf.jpg
Pike -Northern Pike are usually between 2 and 7 pounds and 15 to 30 inches long.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/79276c98.jpg
Musky -Musky on average can be found from 8 to 46 inches in length 2 to 21 pounds.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/06b78854.jpg
Walleye - Average walleye is 14 to 20 inches , weighting 3.04 pounds to 6.00 pounds .
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/34e9a173.jpg

Same. Get your fish names straight:snapoutofit:

[BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES]

Same. Get your fish names straight:snapoutofit:

:sad0125: :sad0125: :sad0125: :sad0125: :sad0125: :sad0125:
Im sorry , So very very sorry .

[BeeGuy]

Walleye - Average walleye is 14 to 20 inches , weighting 3.04 pounds to 6.00 pounds .



Hahaha, get yer fish weights right!

Would love to see a 3lb, 14 inch fish of anykind, or a 6lb, 20" fish.

Would look mighty funny trying to swim (or spawn).

[pickrel pat]

You wouldnt be one of them guys would ya .

depends who im talkin to. if im bsing with a couple old farmers for instance, i would never call it a walleye....... they would just look at me like i was from mars....... im over 40 and growing up in small town alberta, nobody called them walleye when i was growing up...... i can look and feel out the person and know whether to use "pickerel" or "walleye". you being young and everything probably dont know when to use each name? so for me, if they are younger or hardcore fisherman........ its "walleye"...... if they are oldtimer good ole boys........ its pickeral......

[Kyle]

Musky -Musky on average can be found from 8 to 46 inches in length 2 to 21 pounds.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/06b78854.jpg

How about people who mistake a pike for a musky? Does that **** you off too?:sHa_sarcasticlol:

[BeeGuy]

depends who im talkin to. if im bsing with a couple old farmers for instance, i would never call it a walleye....... they would just look at me like i was from mars....... im over 40 and growing up in small town alberta, nobody called them walleye when i was growing up...... i can look and feel out the person and know whether to use "pickerel" or "walleye". you being young and everything probably dont know when to use each name? so for me, if they are younger or hardcore fisherman........ its "walleye"...... if they are oldtimer good ole boys........ its pickeral......

That's a good point. Why are replacing a good Canadian pickeral, with an americanized walleye?

Is this to appease our tourney anglers?

[fishpro]

Hahaha, get yer fish weights right!

Would love to see a 3lb, 14 inch fish of anykind, or a 6lb, 20" fish.

Would look mighty funny trying to swim (or spawn).

I once landed a brook trout that was 20" and weighed 7.25 lbs, it was a thick fish!

[BeeGuy]

I once landed a brook trout that was 20" and weighed 7.25 lbs, it was a thick fish!

post up a pic, sounds like a real trophy speckled trout.

Hold on, Am I allowed to call them speckled trout???????????:argue2:

[SonnyJ]

Suckers should be called whistling trout..

[BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES]

How about people who mistake a pike for a musky? Does that **** you off too?:sHa_sarcasticlol:

not so much , Im more or less the guy that gets PO'd at the Pickerel Walleye thing . All though you were the only one to catch that LOL . Did it on purpose .

[pickrel pat]

All though you were the only one to catch that LOL .

nope. lol.

[Dewey Cox]

I don't like to label fish. I find that rude and insensitive. I treat all fish with equality and respect. Next one you catch don't judge it. Just eat it.

[fishpro]

post up a pic, sounds like a real trophy speckled trout.

Hold on, Am I allowed to call them speckled trout???????????:argue2:

Here's a couple pictures of it, caught it in Labrador a few years ago!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b14/fishpro/629.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b14/fishpro/628.jpg

[BeeGuy]

Wow, that is a real beauty. Fish of a life time!

[pickrel pat]

football brookie!!!!!!!!!!!! love em!

[ogre]

It really Po's me off when people refer to Walleye as Pickerel . Pickerel is a whole different species .

Pickerel - The average size for chain pickerel, however, is 24 inches to 30 inches .
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/2e6ce7cf.jpg
Pike -Northern Pike are usually between 2 and 7 pounds and 15 to 30 inches long.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/79276c98.jpg
Musky -Musky on average can be found from 8 to 46 inches in length 2 to 21 pounds.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/06b78854.jpg
Walleye - Average walleye is 14 to 20 inches , weighting 3.04 pounds to 6.00 pounds .
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/JOHN_CONROY/34e9a173.jpg

BBJ is quite right in pointing out the difference between the legitimate pickerel and our consummate northern pike. Morphological deductions would more than likely confuse the pike (AKA jackfish, jack - probably another misnomer) with the pickerel as they obviously have some sort of convergence in evolution to become their respective top predator.

So as far as confusion go, I can definitely see myself not get upset over a sucker-type fish being collectively termed under suckerfish. Suckerfish almost seem appropriate now considering that it actually clears up confusion, rather than creating confusion.

E.g., "He is a sucker for trying to catch suckerfish while there are pikes to be had".

*Edit* The real pickerel (chain pickerel, Esox niger) is in fact from the same genus as the northern pike (Esox Lucius). Both are from the family Esocidae.

[ogre]

'Tis only right to refer to them as suckerfish, so as not to be confursed with the suckers trying to catch them

I found suckerfish to fight equally well in preventing capture as other so called sportsfish. IMHO, it is a fortunate oversight which might have been the saving grace for a hard working fish to not become most sports-people's target species.

In some southern states, suckerfish are prized and are sought after as an edible food item.