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SnoochyBoochy
07-15-2012, 11:07 PM
Bright and early hit the rd in the rain excited for a day in the bush and rain! It was a great day with fish on the first handful of casts. Huge Goldeye and some med pike. The day brought Walleye, Pike, Goldeye and White fish...amoung some other surprises.

Enjoy
Snooch :acigar:

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trapshooter
07-15-2012, 11:09 PM
Nice shirt LOL

Lefty-Canuck
07-15-2012, 11:09 PM
That one goldeye is a pig! Should have weighed that one :)

LC

Alberta Bigbore
07-15-2012, 11:16 PM
Nice....Pics. How big was that spider?

BeeGuy
07-15-2012, 11:19 PM
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u259/frodogoestoschool/20120715_162136-1.jpg

Is pic number 6 a mountain whitefish?

Looks weird...

tight line
07-16-2012, 03:45 AM
Cool pics congrats on the sturgeon nosed whitie! Lol

waterninja
07-16-2012, 03:59 AM
glad to see you had fun on river x despite the rain. was that first pic. miss calgary stampeder?
wierd nose on that mooneye.

CPT_420
07-16-2012, 04:36 AM
You weren't fishing the Pembina by any chance were you?

I caught several of those 'wierd looking whitefish' between entwistle and sangudo a few weeks back. They were all about the same size as the one you have. They hug the bottom and will hit worms fished near or on bottom. I thought they were mountain whitefish until I noticed they have no adipose fin, and seemed very chunky in width to be a whitefish. Somebody told me peamouth chub but after googling that it doesn't seem to be the same fish.

Just did a search for Northern Pikeminnow, and I am 90% sure that's what you caught and what I caught a few weeks back. I thought we didn't have them in AB??? Should they be here? I'm thinking I should have took one in to F&W to get a species confirmation.

Here is a pic of the Northern Pikeminnow. Looks damn similar doesn't it?

http://www.pikeminnow.org/images/How%20to%20tell%20a%20NPM%20from%20a%20Peamouth/image018.jpg

Dale S
07-16-2012, 06:07 AM
Pic.6 is a flatnose chubb.

BeeGuy
07-16-2012, 07:04 AM
Pic.6 is a flatnose chubb.

Cool. I've never seen one of those before.

Alberta Bigbore
07-16-2012, 07:34 AM
That flatnose chub looks more like pike bait for ice fishing!

SnoochyBoochy
07-16-2012, 07:36 AM
Pic.6 is a flatnose chubb.


Thank you for the info. After a few clicks I came across Platygobio gracilis And I believe this is indeed the fish I was blessed with.

take a look, looks mighty similar..

http://www.bio.txstate.edu/~tbonner/txfishes/platygobio%20gracilis.htm

BeeGuy
07-16-2012, 08:18 AM
There's some interesting info in that link.

Biology

Spawning season: April – August in the Canadian River, Texas (Durham and Wilde 2005, 2006). Spawning occurred from mid-July to mid-August, in Iowa (Martyn and Schmulbach 1978). Gould (1985) reported summer spawning in Montana, when water temperatures ranged from 18-25°C (64.4-77.0°F). Occurs July – September (Olund and Cross 1961; Kucas 1980), apparently coinciding with lower flows, reduced turbidity levels, and warmer water temperatures (Olund and Cross 1961; Rahey and Thel 2004). Spawning occurred in July in the Peace River, Canada (Bishop 1975).

Spawning habitat: Bonner and Wilde (2000) suggested that an approximate distance of 218 km (135 mi) may be the minimum length of unimpounded river necessary for successful reproduction of this large-river species.

Spawning behavior: Platygobio gracilis is a member of a reproductive guild of prairie stream fishes which are believed to spawn in response to floods, broadcasting non-adhesive, semibuoyant eggs that, during incubation and larval development, are carried downstream by the increased flows (Platania and Altenbach 1998; Bonner 2000; Bonner and Wilde 2000; Durham and Wilde 2005, 2006).

Fecundity: In the Yellowstone River, Montana, mean number of eggs per female with a mean length of 186 mm (7.32 in) TL; and mean weight, 68.5 g (2.41 oz) was 6,981; eggs were typically of two or more sizes per fish, indicating non-synchronous development; a single large female contained 36,150 eggs, 28,200 of which were fully developed (Scarnecchia et al. 2000). In Iowa, mature females averaged 4,974 eggs per ovary (Martyn and Schmulbach 1978). Gould (1985) reported an estimated 360-753 mature eggs ranging in size from 1.0-1.4 mm (0.04-0.05 in) per female; ovarian mass contributed 2.3-5.9% of total body weight.

Age/size at maturation: Sexual maturity obtained at approximately 65-85 mm (2.56-3.35 in) SL (Olund and Cross 1961; Kucas 1980). In Iowa, sexual maturity reached in two years by most fish at standard lengths of 89-105 mm (3.50-4.13 in) (Martyn and Schmulbach 1978). Minimum total length at maturation in the Musselshell River, Montana was 113 mm (4,45 in) for males and 123 mm (4.84 in) for females (Gould 1985). In specimens examined from the Missouri River, North Dakota, males were all mature at 110 mm (4.33 in) TL and age 2, and females were all mature at 170 mm (6.69 in) TL and age 3 (Fisher et al. 2002); some males exhibited maturing testes by 60 mm (2.36 in) TL (age 1), and the smallest female that contained developed ovaries was 85 mm (3.46 in) TL (age 1). In the Yellowstone River, Montana, youngest mature males were age-1, and youngest mature females were age 2; smallest mature female was 107 mm TL (Scarnecchia et al. 2000). Bishop (1975) noted that P. gracilis in the Peace River (Canada) appeared to become sexually mature by age 4.

Migration: Occasional migration from large rivers into smaller streams, especially during spawning season (Olund and Cross 1961).

Growth and Population structure: Mean back-calculated total lengths at age of specimens from the Missouri River, North Dakota were 104 mm (4.09 in), 153 mm (6.02 in), 186 mm (7.32 in), and 223 mm (8.78 in) TL for ages 1-4, respectively; an age 5 specimen measured 267 mm (10.50 in) TL (Fisher et al. 2002). In the Yellowstone River, Montana, 1,327 fish sampled ranged from 32 – 304 mm (1.26-11.97 in) TL; mean length of 71 known females was181 mm (7.13 in) TL, significantly greater than mean length of 145 known males (138 mm, 5.43 in, TL); age of 281 fish of both sexes ranged from 1-7 years; maximum age of males and females was 5 and 7 years, respectively (Scarnecchia et al. 2000); mean lengths of fish at time of sampling (22 May-29 August, 1997) were 108 mm TL at age-1+ (i.e., with one annulus plus any post-annulus growth), 129 mm (5.08 in) at age-2+, 147 mm (5.79 in) at age-3+, 164 mm (6.46 in) at age-4+, 196 mm at age-5+, 221 mm (8.70 in) at age-6+, and 246 mm (9.69 in) at age-7+ (Scarnecchia et al. 2000). Gould (1985) reported three size groups present in Mussleshell River, Montana: approximate average total length of specimens in each group was 43 mm (1.39 in), 81 mm (3.19 in), and 116 mm (4.57 in). In Perry Creek, Iowa, average total lengths were 78 mm (3.07 in) after the first year of life, and 110 mm (4.33 in), 130 mm (5.12 in), and 148 mm (5.83 in) at ages 2-4, respectively (Martyn and Schmulbach 1978). Durham and Wilde (2005) studied the effect of hatch date on first-summer growth of P. gracilis from the Canadian River, Texas and found that individuals spawned later in the reproductive season grew at a slower rate than individuals spawned earlier in the season.

Longevity: Maximum age of individuals from the upper Missouri River, North Dakota was 5 (Fisher et al. 2002). In Perry Creek, Iowa, individuals up to age 4 present (Martyn and Schmulbach 1978). Maximum age was 7 years in the Yellowstone River, Montana (Scarnecchia et al. 2000). In the Peace River, Canada, maximum age was 10 years (Bishop 1975).

Food habits: Goldstein and Simon (1999) listed first and second level trophic classifications as invertivore and drift, respectively; trophic mode – surface and water column; feeding behavior – predaceous, using both sight and gustatory or taste buds associated with the barbels. Diet included 35% Corixidae, and terrestrial insects, 21% ants, 30% beetles, and 9% dipterous flies (Olund and Cross 1961; Goldstein and Simon 1999). In the Missouri River, North Dakota, Ostracoda, Hemiptera and Copepoda dominated the diet during a high flow year, while Coleoptera, Trichoptera and Hymenoptera were dominant diet items during an average flow year (Fisher et al. 2002). In the Peace River, Cananda, fish fed mainly on terrestrial drift insects (hymenopterans, hemipterans, and trichopterans; Bishop 1975). Hubbs (1927) reported that young fish (less than 30 mm) fed primarily on crustaceans (small ostracods and cladocerans); an occasional larval or adult insect was consumed. P. gracilis, in the southern part of its range, is likely an opportunistic feeder using whatever senses (vision or taste buds) necessary to locate food (Davis and Miller 1967; Miller and Robison 2004). Feeding by P. gracilis was little affected by increased turbidity; prey consumption decreased by only 26% between 0 and 4,000 NTU (Nephelometric Turbidity Unit; Bonner 2000; Bonner and Wilde 2002).

Host Records

Tapeworms (Proteocephalus) and trematodes reported from very young fish (Hubbs 1927). Olund and Cross (1961) found roundworms (Nematoda: Aphasmidia) in stomachs, and believed these to be parasites, not food items.

SnoochyBoochy
07-16-2012, 08:44 AM
[QUOTE=BeeGuy;1521814]There's some interesting info in that link.

Spawning habitat: Bonner and Wilde (2000) suggested that an approximate distance of 218 km (135 mi) may be the minimum length of unimpounded river necessary for successful reproduction of this large-river species.

Spawning behavior: Platygobio gracilis is a member of a reproductive guild of prairie stream fishes which are believed to spawn in response to floods, broadcasting non-adhesive, semibuoyant eggs that, during incubation and larval development, are carried downstream by the increased flows (Platania and Altenbach 1998; Bonner 2000; Bonner and Wilde 2000; Durham and Wilde 2005, 2006).


Very interesting species and spawning behavior. This little guy sure gets around!

Geezle
07-16-2012, 08:58 AM
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u259/frodogoestoschool/20120715_162136-1.jpg

Is pic number 6 a mountain whitefish?

Looks weird...

X2 that thing's got an awful long snout on it...:confused:



edit: chubb...got it!

SnoochyBoochy
07-16-2012, 09:03 AM
Nice....Pics. How big was that spider?


it wasn't big, maybe fingernail size.

allenford
07-16-2012, 10:31 AM
caught few little guys last week (all released), and wondering are those tiny mountain white fish? or the chub?



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chriscosta
07-16-2012, 01:13 PM
Idk but if not a gamefish how about for pike bait this winter id love to find out about that as they do look nice plump n shiny :)

BeeGuy
07-16-2012, 01:18 PM
caught few little guys last week (all released), and wondering are those tiny mountain white fish? or the chub?


Not a whitefish.

Whitefish have an adipose fin.

They certainly resemble whites though.

Guitarplayingfish
07-16-2012, 01:24 PM
Looks like a good time, Nicely done.

For future reference though, tell your friend not to put fingers in the fish's gills...

Anyway, Thanks for posting, I enjoyed the pics... That one goldeye was hugeeee:sHa_shakeshout:

walking buffalo
07-16-2012, 02:16 PM
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:confused:

Now that I re-read the thread. :snapoutofit:

Never seen one before. :cool:

OneGirlWolfPack
07-16-2012, 03:37 PM
lol at that shirt! :) Is that a toad? That thing is awesome! Looks like it was a great day.