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TROLLER
08-12-2012, 11:22 AM
I have heard that you cannot use a gas motor on a trout pond like Dickson, Severn ect.

I cannot find in the regs where it is not allowed. Gonna buy a small boat and would love to run a 2HP Yamaha but don't want to have to lay out the money and then find out I need to buy an electric.

Anyone know for sure what the rules are?

Liarsenic
08-12-2012, 11:27 AM
Well most places will have it signed at the lake

Liarsenic
08-12-2012, 11:30 AM
"power-driven" means a mode of propulsion provided by a main propelling machinery that is an internal combustion engine or a steam engine. ( propulsion mécanique ) "

"electrical propulsion" means a mode of propulsion provided by a main propelling machinery that is an electric motor powered by electric cells. ( propulsion électrique ) "

SCHEDULE 3

(Subsection 2(3))

WATERS ON WHICH POWER-DRIVEN VESSELS ARE PROHIBITED

ALBERTA


Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
Item Name Given by the Gazetteer of Canada or Description Local Name Location Reference Alberta Land Titles Act Reference System)

Southern Region

1. Michelle Reservoir 5-7-3-W4
2. Reesor Lake 20-8-1-W4
3. McQuillan Lake 13-8-19-W4
4. Round Lake 16,17-1,2-W4
5. Beaverdam Lake 1,2-27,28-W4
6. Cochrane Lake 30-4-27-W4
7. Bullshead Reservoir 28,29-8-4-W4
8. Emerald Lake 8-8-5-W5
9. Brooks Aqueduct Pond 15-18-14-W4

Central Region

1. Dobson Reservoir 12-30-8-W4
2. Fyten Reservoir 9-30-24-W4
3. Michichi Reservoir 19-30-18-W4
4. Severn Creek Reservoir 11-26-22-W4
5. Stafford Lake (Brooks Children′s Pond) 4-19-14-W4
6. Tilley A Reservoir 8-18-12-W4
7. Tilley B Reservoir 31-18-12-W4
8. Huber Reservoir 36-37-13-W4
9. Mound Red Reservoir 11-45-28-W4
10. Sardine Lake 32-48-4-W5
11. Twin Lakes 46-3-W5
12. Short Hills (Cran) Pond 2-42-19-W4
13. Windsor Lake 10-42-22-W4
14. Ashland Dam 32-48-4-W5
15. Gooseberry Park Pond 22-36-6-W4
16. Winchell Lake 2-29-5-W5
17. Fish Lake 2-43-10-W4
18. Bigelow Reservoir 34-25-W4
19. Mirror Reservoir 29-40-22-W4
20. Lacombe Lake 52°26′ 113°48′
21. Coronation Reservoir 24-36-11-W4

East Slopes Region

1. Eccles Pond 8-53-24-W5
2. Cache Lake 52-26-W5
3. Donald Lake 4-53-1-W6
4. Emerald Lake 5-62-11-W5
5. Emerson Lakes 52-21-W5
6. Graveyard Lake 52-26-W5
7. Joachim Lakes 18-57-3-W6
8. Kinky Lake 50-26-W5
9. Laura Lake 32-61-11-W5
10. Mary Gregg Lake 48-24-W5
11. À la Pêche Lake 33-55-6-W6
12. Wildhorse Lakes 49-26-W5
13. Millers Lake 8-53-19-W5
14. Sang Lake Surprise Lake 9-53-15-W5
15. Schuman Lake 61-8-W5
16. Margaret Lake 15-28-9-W5
17. Rat Lake 11-38-9-W5
18. Peppers Lake 30-35-12-W5
19. Goldeye Lake 14-40-16-W5
20. Shunda Lake Fish Lake 40-15-W5
21. Tay Lake 6-36-8-W5
22. Phyllis Lake 17-36-7-W5
23. Mitchell Lake 36-37-8-W5
24. Alford Lake 4-36-8-W5
25. Pierre Greys Lakes 6-57-4-W6
26. Open Creek Reservoir 31-42-4-W5
27. Dunn Lake 7-54-25-W5
28. Petite Lake 12-54-26-W5
29. Upper Moose Horn Lake 31-50-1-W6
30. Lower Moose Horn Lake 6-51-1-W6
31. Kia Nea Lake 49-26-W5
32. Peanut Lake 9-55-15-W5
33. Pegasus Lake 61-11-W5
34. Victor Lake 35-56-8-W6
35. Beaver Lake 16-35-6-W5

Northeast Region

1. Black Nugget Mine Pit 2,11-49-18-W4
2. Eden Lake 13-53-2-W5
3. Chickakoo Lake 34-53-1-W5
4. Hubbles Lake 9-53-1-W5
5. Lower Chain Lake 17,18-69-23-W5
6. Sauer Lake 33-53-1-W5
7. Star Lake 20-52-2-W5
8. Mile 18 Lake 18-71-13-W4
9. Hamilton Lake 59-13,14-W4
10. Ashland Dam 20-48-3-W5
11. Shuster Lake 35-43-5-W4

Peace River Region

1. Figure Eight Lake 20-84-25-W5
2. Mirage Lake 79-8-W6
3. Running Lake 34-88-7-W6
4. Spring Lake 23-75-11-W6
5. Stoney Lake 31-86-3-W6
6. Ole Lake 30-84-12-W6
7. Twin Lake 97-22-W5
8. Hilltop Lake 75-7-W6
9. Machaeisis Lake 23,27-107-16-W5
10. Swan Lake 70-25,26-W5

Reference to Canadian law.

Updated links:
Transport Canada: Here (http://wwwapps2.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/4/rqs_query/ed_gn_rs_sel.aspx?Nrecs=100000000&Ne=20&N=247+2000000005+153&lang=en&No=10)
Vessel law: Here (http://wwwapps2.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/4/rqs_query/ed_sel.aspx?did=466&sid=10885&Ne=20&N=247+2000000005+153&lang=en&Nrecs=100000000&R=10885)[/QUOTE]

kinwahkly
08-12-2012, 12:22 PM
Electric only

fish gunner
08-12-2012, 12:27 PM
since we are on the subject. what is the law regarding having a gas motor not in use on a craft on waters with these restrictions? I come across this quite often, as I feel this goes against the intention of this restriction. any thoughts.

pikergolf
08-12-2012, 01:11 PM
since we are on the subject. what is the law regarding having a gas motor not in use on a craft on waters with these restrictions? I come across this quite often, as I feel this goes against the intention of this restriction. any thoughts.

I've noticed this a fair bit as well, why do you feel this goes against the intention of the legislation?

TROLLER
08-12-2012, 01:16 PM
Thank you i knew i could get the correct info on this forum.

fish gunner
08-12-2012, 01:31 PM
I've noticed this a fair bit as well, why do you feel this goes against the intention of the legislation?

electric only, seems quiet clear. I feel it is to keep gas motors off these lakes, not just the use of. was hoping some one could clear my possible misunderstanding.

pikergolf
08-12-2012, 03:08 PM
I must admit I get a bit of a BP spike when i see someone at the launch backing a 16 ft. big water boat into "my" trout lake. My first thought is, I sure hope he doesn't plan on firing that up. They never do and end up trolling around with their big boat. When i look at it objectively, I would hope for some grace if I was in the same situation, they just want to fish. I can appreciate the hassle it would be to remove the motor, and then put it back on after the trip. Not exactly sure why it bothers me, but will admit it does a tiny bit.

madatter
08-14-2012, 10:38 AM
I just bought a new boat a month ago,big enough to handle rough water but small enough to use on trout lakes,40hp on the back with an electric bow mount trolling motor....a nice 15ft Legend.
My understanding of the rule is that it is perfectly legal to use my boat in trout lakes with electric only as long as big motor not used.
Being from the Hat Bullshead would be my main lake.
I might just phone Wildlife office to confirm but have seen big tournament walleye boats on Bullshead.
Like a lot of people I thought the intent of this rule was to prevent issues with gas pollution but I guess that's not it.
Never bothered me seeing a big boat with a monster motor sticking out of water tho....they are just as quiet on electric as a 12footer.

fisherrr
10-06-2012, 08:41 AM
yes they are. I have a 16 ft alumacraft with a 25hp tiller and electric motor.
This is a 160 fisherman boat. the motor is bolted to the boat no way to remove it without sinking LOL. I have used it on phyllis and beaver lake. (electric only)
We just want to fish!! not make waves.

Freedom55
10-06-2012, 11:24 AM
[QUOTE=Liarsenic;1557584]"power-driven" means a mode of propulsion provided by a main propelling machinery that is an internal combustion engine or a steam engine. ( propulsion mécanique ) "

"electrical propulsion" means a mode of propulsion provided by a main propelling machinery that is an electric motor powered by electric cells. ( propulsion électrique ) "

SCHEDULE 3

(Subsection 2(3))

WATERS ON WHICH POWER-DRIVEN VESSELS ARE PROHIBITED

ALBERTA

etc...

While it may not be the popular opinion, and a number of you have stated that you have launched your "power driven vessel" in waters where they are prohibited, it is indeed fact that such vessels are prohibited.

Before you launch into me and complain of my contrary opinion, consider that these "trout ponds" are small enough that a row boat is sufficient for the job. Bear in mind that at some point your battery is going to die, forcing you to fire up the gas engine to get you back and on to your trailer. 15' and 16' boats of the type mentioned do not come with oarlocks.

Maybe you're late for supper. Maybe nobody is watching. Maybe we're not as ethical as you. As the act is written, it does not state that "Power driven vessels shall not fire up the power while on prohibited waters".

If your argument is that your boat has 2 or 3 12v batteries, then you could be compared to an olympic swimmer paddling about in a wading pool. Or using a shotgun to kill flies.

There is no argument for ignoring the oars that small boats are required to carry. A paddle on a deep vee is about as retarded as it gets as a means of propulsion. To push off from the weeds maybe, but not to paddle ashore.

Truth be known, trolling is best accomplished from a boat being rowed. The erractic action of the act of rowing is exactly what is required for effective presentation of a lure as compared to the steady and monotonous dragging of a bait in a straight line.

Buy my 12' HarberCraft and lash it to the roof of you car. c/w oars and a removable gas engine and fuel tank. Comfy seats and a relaxed attitude.

Free

Wild&Free
10-06-2012, 11:32 AM
"power-driven" means a mode of propulsion provided by a main propelling machinery that is an internal combustion engine or a steam engine. ( propulsion mécanique ) "

"electrical propulsion" means a mode of propulsion provided by a main propelling machinery that is an electric motor powered by electric cells. ( propulsion électrique ) "




Note the section of the deffination that states 'mode of propulsion provided' If it is being propelled via electric power then it is electric propulsion, if it is internal compustion or steam then it is power driven.


Legislations is written in legalese and not english although it looks like english. Keep this in mind and understand the deffinitions of every word used and any use of grammer to join, or seperate conditions and deffinitions.

MK2750
10-06-2012, 12:24 PM
Two government employees were catching minnows on Mitchell Lake while I was camping there. They were testing for mercury. They would remove the motor each time they checked the traps and leave it in the truck.

I asked if that was needed and the reply was yes. The concern is not speed or noise it is contamination of the lake from oil and gas leaks. Some of these lakes have no flowing water in or out making them very sensitive to contamination.

I confirmed this with two wildlife officers at Beaver Lake. No gas motors period-running or not.

This could be false information but it was right from the horse's mouth so to speak. I have seen several doing it but not while a F&W guy was around.

bobalong
10-06-2012, 08:42 PM
Two government employees were catching minnows on Mitchell Lake while I was camping there. They were testing for mercury. They would remove the motor each time they checked the traps and leave it in the truck.

I asked if that was needed and the reply was yes. The concern is not speed or noise it is contamination of the lake from oil and gas leaks. Some of these lakes have no flowing water in or out making them very sensitive to contamination.

I confirmed this with two wildlife officers at Beaver Lake. No gas motors period-running or not.

This could be false information but it was right from the horse's mouth so to speak. I have seen several doing it but not while a F&W guy was around.

I also talked to a F/W about 4 years ago and he said as long as the prop was not in the water there was no problem. Only vessels that are "power driven" are restricted, when you are using an electric motor or oars, the vessel is no longer "power driven" so would not fall under the restriction. The regulation is stating what kind of propulsion can be used, not what is on the boat.

Fish face
10-06-2012, 09:13 PM
I would put a big orange garbage bag over my 1980 2 strokes leg and duct tape the bejeezus out of it, and trim it right up if i was going to troll severn with my electric. Not because my motor is ill maintained, but as a sign that i get the point and respect it. you never know whats on your leg.and if my battery died the paddles work fine. But i also think my boat is overkill at severn, shore fishing and my canoe are more than adequate.

RavYak
10-06-2012, 09:15 PM
Yeah either have to take the motor off or have it tilted up out of the water I believe. It isn't the fact that they just go too fast it is a pollution thing.

bobalong
10-06-2012, 09:48 PM
Yeah either have to take the motor off or have it tilted up out of the water I believe. It isn't the fact that they just go too fast it is a pollution thing.

I understand the pollution thing if you are running a gas motor, but a motor does not leak oil or gas just hanging on the back of the boat, especially when it has not even been turned over........at least mine dont.

waterninja
10-06-2012, 10:44 PM
let me add a bit to the confusion. don't take the list of electric moters only as gospel as there are additional lakes that are electric only that are not on the list (salter lake for eg.)
next week i plan to call fish and wild to get a straight answer as to removing gas motor or not.

fish gunner
10-06-2012, 11:12 PM
hmmm reg states main propulsion. soo a 30hp hanging off the back of a 14' tinner would be the main propulsion not the 30lb thrust electric . I have a 14' lund with a 20hp on the back. I would never think to put it on a lake with a sign saying no gas motors. just me I guess,with ma gooder word readns .

Kim473
10-07-2012, 05:07 AM
Funny that Carson lake has no size restrictions but a speed restriction. This is a stocked rainbow Lake.
Had best results rowing a 10' flat bottom tinner at carson once. Pull once relax for 5 to 10 seconds then pull again.

fisherrr
10-08-2012, 12:14 PM
[QUOTE=Liarsenic;1557584]"power-driven" means a mode of propulsion provided by a main propelling machinery that is an internal combustion engine or a steam engine. ( propulsion mécanique ) "

"electrical propulsion" means a mode of propulsion provided by a main propelling machinery that is an electric motor powered by electric cells. ( propulsion électrique ) "

SCHEDULE 3

(Subsection 2(3))

WATERS ON WHICH POWER-DRIVEN VESSELS ARE PROHIBITED

ALBERTA
etc...

While it may not be the popular opinion, and a number of you have stated that you have launched your "power driven vessel" in waters where they are prohibited, it is indeed fact that such vessels are prohibited.

Before you launch into me and complain of my contrary opinion, consider that these "trout ponds" are small enough that a row boat is sufficient for the job. Bear in mind that at some point your battery is going to die, forcing you to fire up the gas engine to get you back and on to your trailer. 15' and 16' boats of the type mentioned do not come with oarlocks.

Maybe you're late for supper. Maybe nobody is watching. Maybe we're not as ethical as you. As the act is written, it does not state that "Power driven vessels shall not fire up the power while on prohibited waters".

If your argument is that your boat has 2 or 3 12v batteries, then you could be compared to an olympic swimmer paddling about in a wading pool. Or using a shotgun to kill flies.

There is no argument for ignoring the oars that small boats are required to carry. A paddle on a deep vee is about as retarded as it gets as a means of propulsion. To push off from the weeds maybe, but not to paddle ashore.

Truth be known, trolling is best accomplished from a boat being rowed. The erractic action of the act of rowing is exactly what is required for effective presentation of a lure as compared to the steady and monotonous dragging of a bait in a straight line.

Buy my 12' HarberCraft and lash it to the roof of you car. c/w oars and a removable gas engine and fuel tank. Comfy seats and a relaxed attitude.

Free

well I guess we are all entitled to our opinion. My batteries last all day no problem. I can oar my boat as well. It sounds to me like boat envy> see you on the lake:sHa_shakeshout:

Freedom55
10-09-2012, 09:04 AM
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well I guess we are all entitled to our opinion. My batteries last all day no problem. I can oar my boat as well. It sounds to me like boat envy> see you on the lake:sHa_shakeshout:

Great!! Then you have no need for that gasoline engine that you are going to leave on shore.

Free

NSR Monger
10-09-2012, 11:57 AM
Gonna buy a small boat and would love to run a 2HP Yamaha but don't want to have to lay out the money and then find out I need to buy an electric.



LOL you are going to buy a boat and motor just for trout ponds?? :sSig_cool2:

fish99
10-09-2012, 01:47 PM
LOL you are going to buy a boat and motor just for trout ponds?? :sSig_cool2:

dont you anything good to say about someone else thoughts?

Bhflyfisher
10-09-2012, 02:19 PM
dont you anything good to say about someone else thoughts?

x2

NSR Monger
10-09-2012, 02:20 PM
dont you anything good to say about someone else thoughts?

I said it was cool that he was buying a boat and motor for trout ponds, whats not nice about that?

Kokanee9
10-09-2012, 02:20 PM
I also talked to a F/W about 4 years ago and he said as long as the prop was not in the water there was no problem. Only vessels that are "power driven" are restricted, when you are using an electric motor or oars, the vessel is no longer "power driven" so would not fall under the restriction. The regulation is stating what kind of propulsion can be used, not what is on the boat.


I agree. If you put your boat on the water and the gas motor doesn't touch the water, nobody has any right to complain. Taking a larger motor off just to be able to put the boat in water is the same as having it trimmed up all the way and leaving it attached.

Kokanee9
10-09-2012, 02:22 PM
LOL you are going to buy a boat and motor just for trout ponds?? :sSig_cool2:


Some people do have 2 boats. I have a canoe that is mainly for the Bow and a gas powered boat for the lakes.

NSR Monger
10-09-2012, 02:25 PM
Some people do have 2 boats. I have a canoe that is mainly for the Bow and a gas powered boat for the lakes.

so which one is for trout ponds? plus how is it so wrong to say its cool he is buying a boat and motor for trout ponds, how am i in the wrong on this one.

Kokanee9
10-09-2012, 02:26 PM
Whichever 1 that I feel like using.

I didn't say anything about you being wrong. It appeared as if you thought that there was no possible way that anyone would have 2 boats.

:)

NSR Monger
10-09-2012, 02:29 PM
lol why do you even need a motor in a POND?

Bhflyfisher
10-09-2012, 02:29 PM
sure seems like there is implied sarcasm in your post.

Kokanee9
10-09-2012, 02:41 PM
sure seems like there is implied sarcasm in your post.

Honestly, perhaps there was.

Have I ever had the big one on a small trout lake? Never. It's just not worth the hassle. The canoe is so much easier on a small body of water and it is easily handled by just 1 person.

I do have a question for everyone though.

If you were in a boat with a gas motor lifted out of the water and you saw 2 people in a 12ft boat or canoe that had just capsized, conditions are what we have today. Air is +11 and water temperature is high 40's F. Moderate wind with the wind direction coming from the accident scene.

Would you trim the motor down to get across the lake and help them, or would you paddle or electric motor over to them.

NSR Monger
10-09-2012, 02:45 PM
Would you trim the motor down to get across the lake and help them, or would you paddle or electric motor over to them.


I would open a beer and keep fishing with my life jacket off and barbs on

Kokanee9
10-09-2012, 02:57 PM
I would open a beer and keep fishing with my life jacket off and barbs on


I asked the question from the viewpoint of somebody in the boat, not of somebody sitting in a lawnchair on the shore.



:)

NSR Monger
10-09-2012, 03:01 PM
I asked the question from the viewpoint of somebody in the boat, not of somebody sitting in a lawnchair on the shore.



:)

LOL surely you were asking that question as a joke. You would watch someone die because of a motor regulation??

huntsfurfish
10-09-2012, 06:41 PM
Honestly, perhaps there was.

Have I ever had the big one on a small trout lake? Never. It's just not worth the hassle. The canoe is so much easier on a small body of water and it is easily handled by just 1 person.

I do have a question for everyone though.

If you were in a boat with a gas motor lifted out of the water and you saw 2 people in a 12ft boat or canoe that had just capsized, conditions are what we have today. Air is +11 and water temperature is high 40's F. Moderate wind with the wind direction coming from the accident scene.

Would you trim the motor down to get across the lake and help them, or would you paddle or electric motor over to them.



Would emergency services use an electric only? If anyone in LE witnessed the reason for using your gas motor for such an event. I highly doubt they would press the issue!

Steve fly guy
10-10-2012, 04:15 PM
The main reason for electric motors on these lakes are: gas motors attract everyone ( pleasure opperators includes) enviromental inpact from gas spilage and turbidity ( mixing of particulates in the water column causeing cloudiness.
Some cases, its a sight of a fragile eco system...

DiabeticKripple
10-11-2012, 06:50 PM
Honestly, perhaps there was.

Have I ever had the big one on a small trout lake? Never. It's just not worth the hassle. The canoe is so much easier on a small body of water and it is easily handled by just 1 person.

I do have a question for everyone though.

If you were in a boat with a gas motor lifted out of the water and you saw 2 people in a 12ft boat or canoe that had just capsized, conditions are what we have today. Air is +11 and water temperature is high 40's F. Moderate wind with the wind direction coming from the accident scene.

Would you trim the motor down to get across the lake and help them, or would you paddle or electric motor over to them.

i would fire up the gas motor. i dont care, give me a ticket, at least someone is still alive cause of me. i wouldnt see any reasonable CO giving someone a ticket for saving someones life.

fisherrr
10-27-2012, 12:09 PM
Common sense goes a long way. We need to realize that we are all fisherman.
By the way "main" propulsion means what is in the water and in use.

Just think of it like Barbed hooks I am sure we all have at least one in the tackle box it is not illegal to have one just to use it.

Common sense goes a long way. By the way if someone's life is in danger I would do whatever is necessary to save it.
See you on the Ice!!

Mikezilk
10-27-2012, 12:25 PM
I am having a real hard time with this.

Somebody please explain to me the need to have a big boat running an electric motor on a trout pond with a gas motor attached?

I have a canoe and 4 kayaks. I fish trout ponds with my kayaks often, and I can paddle across them usually in 2 minutes max.

I have also used my kayaks and canoe to fish large water bodies such as Pigeon, Sylan and Winefred. I will even go a step further and say I have fished Okanagan lake in 2 foot swells with a down rigger from my kayak fishing for kokanee. So I fail to see why any boat that has a gas motor on it should be allowed on the ponds.

It is the one place that I can go fish and not worry about seeing a slick on the water, hear the noise or smell exhaust. And nobody can tell me that with their motor up there is no chance of a leak. There is always a possibility of it and connections fail all the time.

Please leave the "Ponds" to boats that are paddled or ran on an electric motor. These are the spots we can raise our kids to fish and appreciate the water for what it is.

Just my 2 cents

pikergolf
11-24-2012, 12:53 AM
I'm going to resurrect this and maybe start a storm. If we all agree that on some closed bodies we don't want gas motors because of pollution, what about gas augers. Should they be banned from electric motor only lakes. It has been my experience that these augers put more oil and gas into the lake than an outboard could hope to, especially being refuel on the ice, I'm sure we've all seen a disaster or three when refueling. Thoughts.

WayneChristie
11-24-2012, 01:01 AM
dont see any reason to refuel on the lake at all, how many holes does anyone need to catch stocker trout? they eat earplugs for craps sake! :bad_boys_20: do what I do, fill your tank at the truck and if you need more gas walk back and do it again! I get weeks worth of holes from a tank of gas. if you need 500 holes you need to learn how to fish!

pelada trochu
11-24-2012, 01:54 AM
There are contaminants on outboard motors exhaust grease fittings etc. never seen a launch where prop didn't get wet all the small motors are old school 2stroke. Our old boat used to make a slick regularly. Im think even electric should be banned. Got a acid battery there. Best is to enjoy in a way that leaves it the way u found it.

Hemi44
12-08-2012, 05:46 PM
I agree with Kokanee9. A big boat and motor, as long as the leg is completely out of the water you're fine. My electric lasts all day.

seahawkfisher
12-08-2012, 06:11 PM
i tell ya one thing: if i was that guy that just fell in the water and there was a guy boating with a powerboat, fully within the regulations and not using the power motor, i would be more that happy to see him break the law to save me...
cheers

pelada trochu
12-08-2012, 11:49 PM
i tell ya one thing: if i was that guy that just fell in the water and there was a guy boating with a powerboat, fully within the regulations and not using the power motor, i would be more that happy to see him break the law to save me...
cheers

i resqued a guy from drowning this summer so i figure i know something about the subject. put on a @#$@#$ lifejacket. Leave your #$%#$ power boat at home!!! Keep your #$#$ electric motor and acid filled battery there too! Get a little exercise and grab a set of oars!

huntsfurfish
12-09-2012, 09:29 AM
i resqued a guy from drowning this summer so i figure i know something about the subject. put on a @#$@#$ lifejacket. Leave your #$%#$ power boat at home!!! Keep your #$#$ electric motor and acid filled battery there too! Get a little exercise and grab a set of oars!

no!

Tyangelo
12-09-2012, 07:44 PM
To answer the question about using a larger boat in smaller water:

Some of us have exhausted our budgets on the one craft, and simply cannot afford a second one. I, myself, fall into this catagory.

I can submit a solid answer I got from F&W when I was camping at Carson Pegasus this summer.

Had out my 17 ft Legend with a 115 Merc, and a bow mount Minnkota. Asked the F&W officer making his rounds about launching the boat, and using the trolling motor, inLittle McCloud, an electric motor only lake. Although he agreed that the launch itself would be tough with the soft/muddy launch, he said go for it.

bobalong
12-09-2012, 08:03 PM
There are contaminants on outboard motors exhaust grease fittings etc. never seen a launch where prop didn't get wet all the small motors are old school 2stroke. Our old boat used to make a slick regularly. Im think even electric should be banned. Got a acid battery there. Best is to enjoy in a way that leaves it the way u found it.

Make sure to take the grease out of your reel as well, that and battery acid jumping 2' into the air and over the side of the boat into the lake is getting to be a real problem...........LOL

fisherrr
12-10-2012, 07:20 PM
To answer the question about using a larger boat in smaller water:

Some of us have exhausted our budgets on the one craft, and simply cannot afford a second one. I, myself, fall into this catagory.

I can submit a solid answer I got from F&W when I was camping at Carson Pegasus this summer.

Had out my 17 ft Legend with a 115 Merc, and a bow mount Minnkota. Asked the F&W officer making his rounds about launching the boat, and using the trolling motor, inLittle McCloud, an electric motor only lake. Although he agreed that the launch itself would be tough with the soft/muddy launch, he said go for it.

Thank You for the post:sHa_shakeshout:

pelada trochu
12-11-2012, 12:53 AM
To answer the question about using a larger boat in smaller water:

Some of us have exhausted our budgets on the one craft, and simply cannot afford a second one. I, myself, fall into this catagory.

I can submit a solid answer I got from F&W when I was camping at Carson Pegasus this summer.

Had out my 17 ft Legend with a 115 Merc, and a bow mount Minnkota. Asked the F&W officer making his rounds about launching the boat, and using the trolling motor, inLittle McCloud, an electric motor only lake. Although he agreed that the launch itself would be tough with the soft/muddy launch, he said go for it.

Hey. Im poking fun at the people saying i need to be able to use my 23' 5000lb malibu boat on that trout pond that is only 150 yards across and what if someone starts drowning. Will it be illegal to use my motor to save him.

But if you really want to know how i feel. I was out at peppers lake ice fishing (used an axe) and i picture it a nice place to summer camp. Would it kill u to use a set of oars on that place. I canoed some of the lakes out in jasper a few years ago. It was awesome. Dont have a problem with thinking small land pothole lakes should be motorless.

Why cant we enjoy nature and canoe a lake. If u can put any boat on fine so be it. Each his own within the law. As a kid i watched our old two stroke make a slick everytime we put the prop in the water. So i kinda imagine that and a guy in a 12 or 14' tinner. Its only time before he goes. You know there is a lot more room back there with the motor tilted down and voila.