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Rock Doctor
09-05-2012, 10:30 PM
Any Rock Hounds here?
A group of us went to this remote creek full of fossils and spent a day walking around and looking. I cracked some rocks open in search of interesting new critters. There are Ammonites strewn all over this place, lots of Petrified wood, and we even found a few pieces that might be Fossilized bone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dr7GkDg_MI

RD

just_dave
09-05-2012, 11:01 PM
Now that looked like fun. Cool fossils.

Any gold in them there hills?

Whiskey Wish
09-05-2012, 11:01 PM
My Pa was a "Stone Dog" and spent many hours grinding, polishing and cutting rock. I still wear a Mexican Blue Lace agate he made into a belt buckle for me. He is passed on now and all his diamond saws and things are in storage.

Your post made me think of some of the good times I spent with him rock hounding. I would pick something up and show it to him. He would say "Yup, that there is Leaverright son!"

"Really Pa !!?? What should I do with it?"

"Leave 'er right there!"

"Now that there is a Sex Stone son"

"Huh?"

"A #$%& rock"

I still remember visiting the worlds largest Jade boulder with him near Ft St John BC.
Regards,
Dave.

vcmm
09-05-2012, 11:03 PM
Thanks nice video. But to be honest I thought you were talking about some of the old guys on here.

Ken07AOVette
09-05-2012, 11:06 PM
How cool, looks like everyone was having a blast!

Thanks for sharing :)

IR_mike
09-05-2012, 11:09 PM
Awesome video, thanks for posting.

Sounds like you had a pretty cool dad Dave.

biggameassassin
09-05-2012, 11:32 PM
Wow!!! thats sooo cool! i never knew you could actually find fossils, i always have wanted to find one one day, i always though you had to dig super far into the ground or it would take some really good luck to find one. =) cool thanks for posting

Rock Doctor
09-05-2012, 11:43 PM
Well, there seems to be some interest, so here are some pics from the trip

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1606.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1607.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1609.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1610.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1611.jpg

BeeGuy
09-05-2012, 11:45 PM
Wow!!! thats sooo cool! i never knew you could actually find fossils, i always have wanted to find one one day, i always though you had to dig super far into the ground or it would take some really good luck to find one. =) cool thanks for posting

You can find some in the sandstone around Calgary, but nothing like what's in the video.

Mostly crinoids (sp?) and different kinds of shells, some turbinate.

Also some leaf imprints

Rock Doctor
09-05-2012, 11:45 PM
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1620.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1621.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1622.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1623.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1624.jpg

Rock Doctor
09-05-2012, 11:46 PM
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1625.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1626.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1627.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1629.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1630.jpg

Rock Doctor
09-05-2012, 11:49 PM
As a BONUS, could any of you Rock Hounds identify this stone structure?
We found this on the same trip:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1600.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1601.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1602.jpg

Size referance pic (She is 8yrs old)
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1604.jpg

RD

BeeGuy
09-05-2012, 11:50 PM
Those are awesome.

Is there any permitting required?

IR_mike
09-05-2012, 11:59 PM
Not sure if my terminology is right rockdoctor but "glacial erratic"?

Rock Doctor
09-06-2012, 12:00 AM
Those are awesome.

Is there any permitting required?

Not that I've ever heard of, they are just rocks along some no-name creek, in the middle of nowhere.
lol, I'm sure someone will jump all over me if we were doing wrong:)

RD

biggameassassin
09-06-2012, 12:03 AM
im not a rock hound, but ill give my opinion, looks like a really reallly old grave someone dug , seems to be my only guess :confused:

Rock Doctor
09-06-2012, 12:07 AM
Not sure if my terminology is right rockdoctor but "glacial erratic"?

I don't believe so. There are a number of places where these "eggs" are sticking out of shale banks around here. Not so plentyfull as this particular spot, but they are there (some are 3-4ft across). Some are extremely deep, exposed in cut banks in the river valleys.

RD

BeeGuy
09-06-2012, 12:09 AM
how heavy is that chunk of tree?

Rock Doctor
09-06-2012, 12:12 AM
how heavy is that chunk of tree?

Extreeeeemly, I cant believe I took it, but it has what looks like chrystalized Sap in it (Amber?). I want to get it checked out.

BeeGuy
09-06-2012, 12:21 AM
Extreeeeemly, I cant believe I took it, but it has what looks like chrystalized Sap in it (Amber?). I want to get it checked out.

If there are petrified bees let me know lol

Pikey
09-06-2012, 12:49 AM
very very cool stuff - absolutely love fossil hunting.

Kim473
09-06-2012, 04:17 AM
Great find! Love the pics. Not sure but it might be ilegal to take them home. Amolite is ilegal to take if you find in drum I think.

That structure looks like the closed in stairway to hell. LOL. Might be something down there. Could be part of an old building, like the fire place or something. But you would think there would be more rocks around it. My guess would be an old grave.

KegRiver
09-06-2012, 06:16 AM
I'm not exactly a rock hound, but I do pick up some of the more unusual rocks I find.

Not sure what you call those big coiled shells we see in the first rock on your video but I know where there's quite a lot of them, and most of these are bigger then the ones you found and they have rainbow colours in them.
I've seen a few in that location that are maybe two feet in diameter.
They are also embedded in mud rocks like the ones you found.

I also find a lot of what we call agates. I don't believe that is the correct name for what we are finding but they are interesting. They are semi transparent and range in colour from dark amber to reddish to a dirty cream coloured.

One rock that I find especially interesting that I picked up is a clear crystal.
Some think it's clear quartz but as near as i can make out it's a bit harder then quartz. I'm no expert but when I scratch tested it, it would scratch quartz but quartz would not scratch it. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

Whatever it is, I'd like to get it cut into a gem and made into a broach or something. If I could find anyone to do it.

doetracks
09-06-2012, 08:49 AM
Rock Doctor, thanks a bunch for posting those pictures!

I would have loved to hike that creek with you all. I used to love picking rocks (still do) but never get much of a chance, other than hunks of obsidian from Oregon. I have rarely found fossils, but managed to find a few small ones in the limestone at Frank Slide (they stayed there).

:happy0034:

greylynx
09-06-2012, 09:04 AM
Hello RD:

Thank you for the pictures:

The avian type specimens are very interesting.

duffy4
09-06-2012, 09:15 AM
Another great activity for Alberta Outdoorsmen.

As the thread has expanded from fossils to the fascination with "cool rocks" I'll add these pics.


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b174/duffy4/103_5088.jpg



http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b174/duffy4/103_5089.jpg

If you ever go for a trip to New Zealand, there is a place on the south island called "Gem stone beach" that is worth a look for a rock hound. You can see why it has that name.

elkhunter1234
09-06-2012, 09:36 AM
That's awesome.. Thanks for posting the video and pictures

Rock Doctor
09-06-2012, 09:42 AM
Great find! Love the pics. Not sure but it might be ilegal to take them home. Amolite is ilegal to take if you find in drum I think.

That structure looks like the closed in stairway to hell. LOL. Might be something down there. Could be part of an old building, like the fire place or something. But you would think there would be more rocks around it. My guess would be an old grave.

I did some checking, and it would be agains the rules to take them from a park or protected area, ect. This is just a random creek out in the middle of nowhere, so it sounds like I'm OK.
Actually I'm planning to Stake a mineral claim on this creek, not sure what that will do for me, other than allowing me to build a cabin there, I guess I'll find out, lol. :)

RD

Rock Doctor
09-06-2012, 09:45 AM
Another great activity for Alberta Outdoorsmen.

As the thread has expanded from fossils to the fascination with "cool rocks" I'll add these pics.


If you ever go for a trip to New Zealand, there is a place on the south island called "Gem stone beach" that is worth a look for a rock hound. You can see why it has that name.

Cool pics Duffy

RD

remington 260
09-06-2012, 11:23 AM
My family are also rock hounds. We were recently out a few weeks ago and got some cool finds of fossils, petrified wood and to top it of I found a elk shed in the river bank! I would love to get it carbon dated but not sure how to go about it! Probably only 10 years old. I'll try and upload do pics of our outing.

sonny42
09-06-2012, 11:52 AM
I do float trips on the Old Man in southern Alta, Lots of ammonite and other fossels, Ammonite , clams come out of the Bears paw formation as i was told, this is the old sea bed this formation is on the earths surface in about 12 places in the world; in Alberta this formation is on the surface in i beleave about 4 different places. and i am not jumping on you for i have picked ammonite and few other fossels myself, but it is against the law to pick them if you do not have a claim on the property, claims can be purchesed from Federal Government, You have found a very special spot.

Donkey Oatey
09-06-2012, 11:56 AM
I do float trips on the Old Man in southern Alta, Lots of ammonite and other fossels, Ammonite , clams come out of the Bears paw formation as i was told, this is the old sea bed this formation is on the earths surface in about 12 places in the world; in Alberta this formation is on the surface in i beleave about 4 different places. and i am not jumping on you for i have picked ammonite and few other fossels myself, but it is against the law to pick them if you do not have a claim on the property, claims can be purchesed from Federal Government, You have found a very special spot.

Information is incorrect.

http://www.gprc.ab.ca/departments/sasu/palaeo/fossil-collecting.html

Fossil material legally collected from the surface of the ground can be kept, although ownership remains with the Province of Alberta - the collector acts as a custodian of the fossil.

Fossils collected in the Province of Alberta cannot be sold without obtaining permission from the Government of Alberta. You may find fossils for sale in shops within the province. Most of these fossils are collected in other countries where laws regarding the sale of fossils are different. It is also possible that they were collected illegally within the province. The buying and selling of fossils is strongly discouraged unless it brings them into or keeps them within a public trust.

Badback
09-06-2012, 11:58 AM
Great video....

just_dave
09-06-2012, 01:34 PM
Actually I'm planning to Stake a mineral claim on this creek, not sure what that will do for me, other than allowing me to build a cabin there, I guess I'll find out, lol. :)

RD

AHA! Must be GOLD! :)

Rock Doctor
09-06-2012, 02:21 PM
AHA! Must be GOLD! :)


Gold? What Gold? I don't know anything about finding Gold:thinking-006:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Gold/DCP_2073.jpg

What? Hey, where did that come from:sign0176:

:scared0018:

RD

Rock Doctor
09-06-2012, 02:27 PM
I do float trips on the Old Man in southern Alta, Lots of ammonite and other fossels, Ammonite , clams come out of the Bears paw formation as i was told, this is the old sea bed this formation is on the earths surface in about 12 places in the world; in Alberta this formation is on the surface in i beleave about 4 different places. and i am not jumping on you for i have picked ammonite and few other fossels myself, but it is against the law to pick them if you do not have a claim on the property, claims can be purchesed from Federal Government, You have found a very special spot.

I could take you to a half dozen places within a couple hrs of my house where you can find fossils like this. Some are on Mtn tops, some in river bottoms.
Don't worry about jumping on me, lol. This is not in AB, and I don't live in AB, although I did at one time. I still post here as I do have friends on the site, and am still interested in what's going on there. Peace :)

RD

colin455
09-06-2012, 02:34 PM
RockDoctor. Those are very nice. A couple would proudly grace my mantle if I found them.
My father was an avid collector and also taught me about 'leaverite'. :D
I don't share the passion he had but can appreciate what you found there.
Thank you for sharing your pictures of them.

ShawnM
09-06-2012, 03:17 PM
I'm not exactly a rock hound, but I do pick up some of the more unusual rocks I find.

Not sure what you call those big coiled shells we see in the first rock on your video but I know where there's quite a lot of them, and most of these are bigger then the ones you found and they have rainbow colours in them.
I've seen a few in that location that are maybe two feet in diameter.
They are also embedded in mud rocks like the ones you found.

I also find a lot of what we call agates. I don't believe that is the correct name for what we are finding but they are interesting. They are semi transparent and range in colour from dark amber to reddish to a dirty cream coloured.

One rock that I find especially interesting that I picked up is a clear crystal.
Some think it's clear quartz but as near as i can make out it's a bit harder then quartz. I'm no expert but when I scratch tested it, it would scratch quartz but quartz would not scratch it. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

Whatever it is, I'd like to get it cut into a gem and made into a broach or something. If I could find anyone to do it.

That would be me... I am a faceter (cuts gemstones) and I've cut many a piece of quartz. Interesting thing about quartz is that very often one piece can be much TOUGHER than another. Their hardness will be the same but the tougher piece can scratch the other. I've read many explanations for it but it has to do with the alignment of the growth planes, etc.

If you want it cut drop me a PM and we'll work something out.

FishingMOM
09-06-2012, 03:30 PM
Not sure what you call those big coiled shells we see in the first rock on your video but I know where there's quite a lot of them, and most of these are bigger then the ones you found and they have rainbow colours in them.
I've seen a few in that location that are maybe two feet in diameter.
They are also embedded in mud rocks like the ones you found.

Them coiled shells are ammonites.

THEY ARE WORTH $(($$)$$$$) (http://ammolite.us/)


In 1981 the International Colored Gemstone Commission recognized ammolite as a new organic gemstone. It is the rarest gemstone in the world. Only 1 out of 100 ammonite specimens is usable as ammolite. The ammolite fossils can be found in museums worldwide and range in size from 20 inches in diameter to 6 feet in diameter. Because ammolite isn’t very hard it must be treated like a pearl or opal.


http://skywalker.cochise.edu/wellerr/students/ammonites/ammonites.htm

sonny42
09-06-2012, 04:26 PM
I could take you to a half dozen places within a couple hrs of my house where you can find fossils like this. Some are on Mtn tops, some in river bottoms.
Don't worry about jumping on me, lol. This is not in AB, and I don't live in AB, although I did at one time. I still post here as I do have friends on the site, and am still interested in what's going on there. Peace :)

RDWhat i am saying is that this formation that has ammolite fossels only comes to the earths surface in a few places in the world, Alberta, Sask. are 2 of the few places.

walking buffalo
09-06-2012, 05:52 PM
What i am saying is that this formation that has ammolite fossels only comes to the earths surface in a few places in the world, Alberta, Sask. are 2 of the few places.

The Rock has found Ammonites, not Ammolite.

There is a difference between the two.



Great pics Rock Doc!

Are those Scallop shells?

greylynx
09-06-2012, 08:43 PM
Thank you for the pictures Rock Dock.

Your geologist's hammer is starting to look a little beaten up. Perhaps your wife could buy you a new one.

And perhaps you could buy your wife a set of hiking boots. Flip Flops are not permissable on a site.

Frans
09-07-2012, 07:54 AM
This is not in AB, and I don't live in AB, although I did at one time. I still post here as I do have friends on the site, and am still interested in what's going on there. Peace :)

RD

Ha! I got that impression from some of the photos.

I was wondering, how do you pick a location to go look. Just any random old river bed, or do you for a certain topography.

I've found a few, but apart them being high up in the shale, there was no apparent (to me) rhyme or reason to the location.

Sporty
09-07-2012, 08:06 AM
Them coiled shells are ammonites.

THEY ARE WORTH $(($$)$$$$) (http://ammolite.us/)





http://skywalker.cochise.edu/wellerr/students/ammonites/ammonites.htm

Which are illegal to sell without first obtaining permission from the Gov of AB

Fossils collected in the Province of Alberta cannot be sold without obtaining permission from the Government of Alberta. You may find fossils for sale in shops within the province. Most of these fossils are collected in other countries where laws regarding the sale of fossils are different. It is also possible that they were collected illegally within the province. The buying and selling of fossils is strongly discouraged unless it brings them into or keeps them within a public trust.

http://www.gprc.ab.ca/departments/sasu/palaeo/fossil-collecting.html

Dumbo_Dave
09-07-2012, 08:21 AM
As a BONUS, could any of you Rock Hounds identify this stone structure?
We found this on the same trip:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1600.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1601.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1602.jpg

Size referance pic (She is 8yrs old)
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o281/RockDocPhoto/Fossil%20Creek/IMG_1604.jpg

RD

Looks just like what my grandpa used to build for a fire pit under a couple of 50 gal drums to boil his mash. Does the open end face the prevailing wind?

Sundancefisher
09-07-2012, 08:32 AM
Great to see other rock hounds.

I am a fanatic. One of our best family trips was visiting the Rock Candy Mine in Grand Forks, SE BC. Highly recommend it. Lots of drusy quartz, flourite and some barite crystals. As much as you can carry out in the day depending upon which package you buy.

Saltmania
09-07-2012, 01:49 PM
Thanks for posting. Those are some great photos. My brother in law found some nice fossils of ferns in some shale this year near Flatbed Creek, Tumbler Ridge BC.

petew
09-07-2012, 02:25 PM
Great stuff. I hope that some of the rock hounds keep an eye open for Flint/chert . Those of us that do things the traditional way are always looking for a source of flint for our muzzleloaders and arrows.
Pete

SHORTMAG
09-07-2012, 04:59 PM
DDave...that was my first thought...a fire pit for "pig in a poke" kinda thing...or perhaps what's left of a rock cache......

"MOONSHINERS"...another great idea!! :D

althetrainer
09-07-2012, 10:22 PM
Our 10-year-old is a dino buff and he loves all fossils. It would be a huge thing for him to find even just a small piece. Nice pictures. Thanks for sharing!

deanmc
09-07-2012, 10:35 PM
:sSig_nicethread:

sikwhiskey
09-07-2012, 11:37 PM
Looks just like what my grandpa used to build for a fire pit under a couple of 50 gal drums to boil his mash. Does the open end face the prevailing wind?

Or cooking a pig or deer on a spit. If it is located on a flood plane of a river bed could be a Sluice!

Rock Doctor
09-09-2012, 09:18 AM
Looks just like what my grandpa used to build for a fire pit under a couple of 50 gal drums to boil his mash. Does the open end face the prevailing wind?

Prevailing wind is from the West, and a bit Northwest. The open end of this is pointing North. Again though, this structure shows no sign of fire or heat damage to the stones.

Great stuff. I hope that some of the rock hounds keep an eye open for Flint/chert . Those of us that do things the traditional way are always looking for a source of flint for our muzzleloaders and arrows.
Pete

Could you post a few pics? I'm sure I've found a bit of flint, but nothing in any quantities.

Or cooking a pig or deer on a spit. If it is located on a flood plane of a river bed could be a Sluice!

I suspect this is not a sluice. It's about 15ft above the water line (Maybe 5ft above the high water line). There is no sign of tailings at all, no sign of "River Rocks" around it other than the stones it's built from.

Someone mentioned that it's used to make loading a horse easier........... Possible I guess:)

RD

KegRiver
09-12-2012, 10:35 PM
I thought you folks might like to see the shells I was talking about.
So this past weekend my kid brother and I went a picked up a few.

My photos don't do them justice, but they are the best I can do.

So here are some of the shells we've been finding. A very few. Actually we picked up several hundred pounds of rocks with shells in them, here are a few.


Here is the start of the days collection. Actually we were only there about an hour.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/KegRiver/JIM/_MG_5218.jpg


Here I tried to capture the rainbow of colours emitted from the mother of pear surface of the shell. It doesn't show very well.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/KegRiver/JIM/_MG_5225.jpg

Here is my 17 year old nephew holding the largest one we found. This shell covers the entire end of this rock. I estimate that the diameter of this shell is around 16 inches.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/KegRiver/JIM/_MG_5230.jpg

Guitarplayingfish
09-12-2012, 10:52 PM
I love rocks!!

Awesome pictures, I enjoyed them.

I found a bunch of bacculite and some ammonite today, although they were all in bad condition.

My most prized "rock" is a ~60-75lb ammonite I found last year.. walked it 2km back to my vehicle, was super intense. It is still completely enclosed in rock, so the beautiful red,purple and potentially blue gem has not been oxidized or exposed to the elements other than a sliver at the top.

On my ever growing list of things to buy:

Air scry

I hear it takes years to chip off a single stone if worked casually.

Red Bullets
09-12-2012, 11:08 PM
I did some checking, and it would be agains the rules to take them from a park or protected area, ect. This is just a random creek out in the middle of nowhere, so it sounds like I'm OK.
Actually I'm planning to Stake a mineral claim on this creek, not sure what that will do for me, other than allowing me to build a cabin there, I guess I'll find out, lol. :)

RD

If you are in Alberta...


You might be amazed that a lot of the creeks and streams in Alberta have already been claimed. Some landowners still have mineral rights too. The process of a mineral claim in Alberta is complicated and along waterways even more so.
As far as collecting fossils in Alberta.. . There are lots of fossils but the fossils don't mean much if you can't see them in place. Instead of taking the fossils , protect the area and get the local school kids involved.

A letter worth reading about ammonite shell collecting in Alberta.
http://inform.energy.gov.ab.ca/Documents/Published/IL-2004-18.pdf

If you want to mine minerals.. .http://www.energy.gov.ab.ca/minerals/718.asp

RescueDiver
09-13-2012, 12:39 AM
Cool

BeeGuy
09-13-2012, 01:17 AM
Cool

ya, fossils rock.

Rock Doctor
01-25-2021, 05:52 PM
Sorry about resurrecting such an old Thread, but I thought I would add an update. I have 3 sets of pics to add.
I brought a couple pieces of petrified wood and some other stones to my buddies place and sliced them up with his rock saw.
This is the large piece that I found:
https://i.imgur.com/HvK4FkE.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zsC0g0H.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0FGhVhi.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qUgR7jW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BbbULZx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PicBkLE.jpg

This should be a video
https://i.imgur.com/uhGh6P3.mp4

Rock Doctor
01-25-2021, 05:57 PM
This is the smaller piece of petrified wood:
https://i.imgur.com/rAgjyts.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1rH19w6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kAr3j0W.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3k0ScCP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8U2UmxJ.jpg

Rock Doctor
01-25-2021, 06:04 PM
I believe this is coral, cut at a few different angles

https://i.imgur.com/YIsOUrk.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/JUOISfY.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/aEU5Of5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CtwhQdk.jpg

Agate
https://i.imgur.com/tSxcy0w.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PP9urUs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vXiYriK.jpg

RD

pikeman06
01-25-2021, 06:24 PM
Wow. Are you cutting that with a wet tile saw or what the heck? Obviously you aren't tumbling it to get that finished look on flat pieces like you are showing. I would say coral for sure. I've found some around the battle river haven't cut it yet.

fishnguy
01-25-2021, 06:38 PM
That is insanely cool. Thanks for posting!

Rock Doctor
01-25-2021, 06:38 PM
Wow. Are you cutting that with a wet tile saw or what the heck? Obviously you aren't tumbling it to get that finished look on flat pieces like you are showing. I would say coral for sure. I've found some around the battle river haven't cut it yet.

There are a few pics of the saw 2 posts up. My buddy said its a rock saw.

RD

flyrodfisher
01-25-2021, 06:45 PM
very cool!

JRF
01-25-2021, 07:20 PM
Hey Rock Doc, that's some awesome looking stuff. What part of BC are you in? I spent a few years in the west koots and did a lot of gold prospecting; I always picked up whatever interesting rocks I found along the way. I used to find agate and amethyst back in Nova Scotia when I was still living there, there was a pretty rich area on the shore that would erode heavily every winter.

I'll be spending lots of time in the Golden area over the next few years, time to see what's hiding in those hills!

Ken07AOVette
01-25-2021, 07:21 PM
Awesome thread resurrection.

I just love looking at 4 billion year old rocks and watching anti evolutionists suck lemons :)

RandyBoBandy
01-25-2021, 07:27 PM
FANTASTIC pics !! Sure beats the results that I had from my "rock polishing" kit from when I was a kid :)

HuyFishin
01-25-2021, 07:36 PM
Thanks nice video. But to be honest I thought you were talking about some of the old guys on here.

LOL haha

my wife is rock nerd as well. damn environmental scientist

Grizzly Adams
01-25-2021, 07:45 PM
Awesome thread resurrection.

I just love looking at 4 billion year old rocks and watching anti evolutionists suck lemons :)


Well then, enjoy this. :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvYepk4_F7E

Grizz

BUSHRVN
01-25-2021, 08:28 PM
Well then, enjoy this. :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvYepk4_F7E

Grizz

👍👍. Was very good, thanks for sharing!

Rock Doctor
01-25-2021, 09:09 PM
Hey Rock Doc, that's some awesome looking stuff. What part of BC are you in? I spent a few years in the west koots and did a lot of gold prospecting; I always picked up whatever interesting rocks I found along the way. I used to find agate and amethyst back in Nova Scotia when I was still living there, there was a pretty rich area on the shore that would erode heavily every winter.

I'll be spending lots of time in the Golden area over the next few years, time to see what's hiding in those hills!


NE corner of BC. There are a number of places in the area that I have found/seen fossils: Along the Prophet river, Sumit Lake area, Liard river. I know that's pretty general, but you get the idea:)
There's a lot of interesting stuff out in the wild, I just thought about a time my dad and I found a crazy vein/deposit running across a creek in a very tight ravine. It was 3-5ft wide where the creek ran across it, then it ran up each bank, disappearing into the rock at about head height. I thought it was quartz, dad said it was calcite. We took samples, he staked the area but I don't remember anything coming of it, it was a long time ago. I could still find it though, i remember that trip well, I almost died on it.

RD

Red Bullets
01-25-2021, 10:33 PM
Nice pics and specimens. Nice to have a rock saw close too. I've been reading up on heat treating rocks and that is pretty interesting too. Some rocks change quite a bit from dull colored to crystal like. Ever fire any rocks?

Since you are a rock doctor do you ever go diagnosing rocks at night with a black light?

Rock Doctor
01-26-2021, 09:25 AM
Nice pics and specimens. Nice to have a rock saw close too. I've been reading up on heat treating rocks and that is pretty interesting too. Some rocks change quite a bit from dull colored to crystal like. Ever fire any rocks?

Since you are a rock doctor do you ever go diagnosing rocks at night with a black light?

Thanks RB
The Rock Saw is actually in Alaska, I took the rocks up there on a trip I was making.
Ive never fired any rocks, but I've heard that Flint can be fired to make it easier to work. Something about making the flint easier to work bi-facially, which allows a flint worker to make a point with less of a natural curve to it.
Im not that kind of Rock Dr, I was given the handle by a few friends on a jet boat trip many moons ago. I was taking them on a trip up the Tuchodi in the spring, very low water conditions. I hit a lot of rocks, one of the guys commented on that. Another friend replied something to the effect of "Hands of a surgeon". Another said something like "Well done Dr Rock", in the end they settled on "Rock Doctor". So, ya, I've been RD ever since.

RD

Red Bullets
01-26-2021, 01:45 PM
Thanks RB
The Rock Saw is actually in Alaska, I took the rocks up there on a trip I was making.
Ive never fired any rocks, but I've heard that Flint can be fired to make it easier to work. Something about making the flint easier to work bi-facially, which allows a flint worker to make a point with less of a natural curve to it.
Im not that kind of Rock Dr, I was given the handle by a few friends on a jet boat trip many moons ago. I was taking them on a trip up the Tuchodi in the spring, very low water conditions. I hit a lot of rocks, one of the guys commented on that. Another friend replied something to the effect of "Hands of a surgeon". Another said something like "Well done Dr Rock", in the end they settled on "Rock Doctor". So, ya, I've been RD ever since.

RD

Funny how you got your handle. Here's a little info on heat treating rocks. Even common feldspar can be turned into gemstones.

https://www.gemselect.com/gem-info/heat-treatment.php

Albertacoyotecaller
01-31-2021, 02:46 PM
Thanks RB
The Rock Saw is actually in Alaska, I took the rocks up there on a trip I was making.
Ive never fired any rocks, but I've heard that Flint can be fired to make it easier to work. Something about making the flint easier to work bi-facially, which allows a flint worker to make a point with less of a natural curve to it.
Im not that kind of Rock Dr, I was given the handle by a few friends on a jet boat trip many moons ago. I was taking them on a trip up the Tuchodi in the spring, very low water conditions. I hit a lot of rocks, one of the guys commented on that. Another friend replied something to the effect of "Hands of a surgeon". Another said something like "Well done Dr Rock", in the end they settled on "Rock Doctor". So, ya, I've been RD ever since.

RD

I have watched your videos. Hopefully I can get my Alicraft up that way some day for some adventures.

Okotok
01-31-2021, 05:32 PM
Love rocks. Igneous, Metamorphic or Sedimentary all do it for me. Found a few small pieces of chert in the creek at my buddy's place near Cranbrook last year. Pretty cool stuff with a unique "feel". Not sure if Alberta has any flint or chert?

calgarychef
01-31-2021, 06:36 PM
Love rocks. Igneous, Metamorphic or Sedimentary all do it for me. Found a few small pieces of chert in the creek at my buddy's place near Cranbrook last year. Pretty cool stuff with a unique "feel". Not sure if Alberta has any flint or chert?

Apparently we have chert, and there’s a native “mine” in one of the national parks. That makes it difficult. We don’t have any flint, it’s always associated with limestone. Strangely enough flint is a sedimentary rock made of almost pure silica from plants.

Grizzly Adams
01-31-2021, 07:54 PM
There's ammonites to be found near Ram Falls, as well .

Grizz

Grizzly Adams
01-31-2021, 07:57 PM
Apparently we have chert, and there’s a native “mine” in one of the national parks. That makes it difficult. We don’t have any flint, it’s always associated with limestone. Strangely enough flint is a sedimentary rock made of almost pure silica from plants.

I picked up a fist sized flint nodule in Germany, just walking down a trail near an old Hun fort. It was a " Feuerstein" , I was informed .

Grizz

Okotok
02-01-2021, 10:12 AM
Apparently we have chert, and there’s a native “mine” in one of the national parks. That makes it difficult. We don’t have any flint, it’s always associated with limestone. Strangely enough flint is a sedimentary rock made of almost pure silica from plants.

I believe the Rockies in the Banff area are mainly limestone and more in the Jasper area are quartz or other metamorphic?

Grizzly Adams
02-01-2021, 02:50 PM
I believe the Rockies in the Banff area are mainly limestone and more in the Jasper area are quartz or other metamorphic?

There are little pockets, here and there, where you can find quartz crystals.

Grizz

Red Bullets
02-01-2021, 03:25 PM
All sorts of rocks, minerals and crystals in the national parks.

In the 1880's there was a place in Banff National park called Silver City which was about 3000 miners there on the news of silver and gold. Was originally called Copper City after copper and lead were found on Copper mountain then the name was changed to Silver City. Stories have been written about Silver City in ghost town books.

In Jasper park there is a little creek south of Jasper town called Opal creek. It has precious opals in the gravels. Unfortunately you can't collect rocks in national park. There are opals in the Okanagan in BC too.

If you are ever in Terrace BC on the north end of the old Lakelse Ave bridge over the river, up on the slope was a small amethyst mine shaft back in the 1800's. The only amethyst mine west of Thunder Bay. I tried finding it and know i was very close but the entrance has been sealed and obscured.

pitw
02-01-2021, 04:22 PM
I ain't a rockhound but was visiting a buddy down in Glendive Montana and he took me for a drive about/walkabout. We came up on a knoll in a pasture and there were fossils every dang place ya looked and he said if we were to go to the state park there was far more. Was kinda/sorta cool but I enjoyed hooters more:). There is also a rock store South of Cold Lake that has some really nice specimens in my opinion, with one particular batch that looks exactly like bacon. I figured I'd be better off buying a whole pig than spending $250 on a rock.

Grizzly Adams
02-01-2021, 05:09 PM
All sorts of rocks, minerals and crystals in the national parks.

In the 1880's there was a place in Banff National park called Silver City which was about 3000 miners there on the news of silver and gold. Was originally called Copper City after copper and lead were found on Copper mountain then the name was changed to Silver City. Stories have been written about Silver City in ghost town books.

In Jasper park there is a little creek south of Jasper town called Opal creek. It has precious opals in the gravels. Unfortunately you can't collect rocks in national park. There are opals in the Okanagan in BC too.

If you are ever in Terrace BC on the north end of the old Lakelse Ave bridge over the river, up on the slope was a small amethyst mine shaft back in the 1800's. The only amethyst mine west of Thunder Bay. I tried finding it and know i was very close but the entrance has been sealed and obscured.

There were a couple of lead , zinc mines in the Field area at one time. You can still see traces of the works when you drive by, including a gated tunnel.


https://www.burgess-shale.bc.ca/a-mine-in-yoho-national-park/

Grizz

KegRiver
02-01-2021, 08:09 PM
I thought some of you might like to see a pendent I had a jeweler make for my youngest using a stone I cut and polished.

I also had a ring made for my wife using a stone I cut and polished but I don't have a photo of it.

Here is the pendent;

https://i.imgur.com/nhXl6Ru.jpg

Stinky Buffalo
02-02-2021, 07:56 AM
I picked up a fist sized flint nodule in Germany, just walking down a trail near an old Hun fort. It was a " Feuerstein" , I was informed .

Grizz

https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJwv_Mfp42V2R_vcMyARiZy_0kB9g4Eq37KjHA=s900-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo

:lol:

Dale S
02-06-2021, 10:46 AM
I find these on our local gravel roads. Which come from the local gravel pits. I have always thought they were Amber, but not positive. They polish up nice. The first photo is before I tumble them.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/f94c523a2edc7ac8643736022b015c84.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/51a28d4da255cba857888628e5f8b039.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/a95a7194ac1f3af3640d22fb81aaf238.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/8e5d51fa02918778419af32de24ce024.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/aae89298a5fafc10dd379e71c30daec8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/c955eafb2487354fa41c1397230415cc.jpg

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Wendigo
02-06-2021, 11:20 AM
Those are carnelian not sure on the spelling.
I have 1 chunk that is red as a ruby and size of a golf ball.
If tap talk would cooperate I'd show some cool pieces including intact dinosaur skin complete with scales.

Grizzly Adams
02-06-2021, 11:49 AM
Those are carnelian not sure on the spelling.
I have 1 chunk that is red as a ruby and size of a golf ball.
If tap talk would cooperate I'd show some cool pieces including intact dinosaur skin complete with scales.

I'd be tracking down the gravel pit.

Grizz

Dale S
02-06-2021, 12:08 PM
Those are carnelian not sure on the spelling.
I have 1 chunk that is red as a ruby and size of a golf ball.
If tap talk would cooperate I'd show some cool pieces including intact dinosaur skin complete with scales.

I knew someone on here would know. Thanks.

Ddawg
02-06-2021, 02:52 PM
I knew someone on here would know. Thanks.


I believe that is quartz, not carnelian. I believe the only places carnelian has been found in Canada is in Ontario and Quebec.
I have a very similar stone and asked Rogen - Rokman the resident rock man on AO to identify my rock. This is his response

Thx for the message! I’ll break this down for ya. It’s a metamorphic form of quarts. It’s been reheated (deep within the crust, a long time ago [emoji23] like... tens of millions of years ago) and it has developed gorgeous banding. The banding means I’m going to call it a type of agate. The deep yellow / orange is due to iron impurities. Not a fossil. Just a dandy type of semi-translucent agate:)

Dale S, Nice job on the polishing .

Mike CD d


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Dale S
02-06-2021, 05:30 PM
I've been doing some reading. Wikipedia says Carnelian is the reddish, orange form of Chalcedony. A major variety of quartz. So I'm thinking the same stuff.

KegRiver
02-06-2021, 05:42 PM
That's the same rock I made the pendent and ring from.

I've always called it agate, that's what I was told it is, but a person of questionable knowledge.

It looks like you get a better quality then I do.
Many that I find are snot gray or a washed out orange.

I have several hundred that I picked up on gravel roads and in pits in the area.
In all that I have less then a dozen that I like the color of and you've seen my best, that one was what I used to make the pendent.

mikefromcanmore
02-06-2021, 05:45 PM
In the late 1880's through to WW 1 ,Amber was raked off the bottom of Gull Lake.It was shipped to Europe and refined into varnish. Local told me between 120-180,000 lbs. a year. Royalties were paid on it.Remember that Alberta's AGS website has free reports and scanned maps from 1905 forward. We as taxpayers paid for it so free access is just right.
So a walk along the east side beaches may turn up some speciums along with PetfriedWood, Amber is light and is washed up on the high water line. And no I will not give exact areas.