Video - Native "Massacre" Of Coho on Capilano River

[Serengeti Charters]

I'll let the video speak for itself, want to make you all aware of this kind of behaviour. I'm sure you can imagine how I feel about this kind of thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuseR1aYsDc

[pikergolf]

I'm guessing it's all legal? If it is I don't see a problem, get the fish out and whack them on the head. Not pretty to watch but I'm guessing watching slaughter houses would be on par. If you find it disturbing because you disagree with natives harvesting that's another matter. Looking at the stream bed makeup it looks like the rocks have been stacked to trap the fish when the tide drops?

[sniderscott]

I'm guessing it's all legal? If it is I don't see a problem, get the fish out and whack them on the head. Not pretty to watch but I'm guessing watching slaughter houses would be on par. If you find it disturbing because you disagree with natives harvesting that's another matter. Looking at the stream bed makeup it looks like the rocks have been stacked to trap the fish when the tide drops?


so beating the mid bodies, jumping on them is for the meat? I guess they like it tenderized.

[Walleye101]

Don't those fish die anyway?

[sniderscott]

Don't those fish die anyway?

you die. would you like to be beat because you do? It's a disgusting abuse of "rights". The reserve back home does it properly with string nets and boats. Not this disgusting feat of inhumanity.

[rammer]

I'm guessing it's all legal? If it is I don't see a problem, get the fish out and whack them on the head. Not pretty to watch but I'm guessing watching slaughter houses would be on par. If you find it disturbing because you disagree with natives harvesting that's another matter. Looking at the stream bed makeup it looks like the rocks have been stacked to trap the fish when the tide drops?

If it's legal you have no problem? Natives love to talk about how they know better than anyone how to care for and manage our natural resources. Just ask the caribou herds in Quebec. I guess once the populations drop too much they can just pray to the fish god and he will give them more salmon.

[fish99]

the way the fish were clubed with the sticks on the meat was a waste of the resource. If no body purchased fish from these people, this would not happen as often.

[Redfrog]

you die. would you like to be beat because you do? It's a disgusting abuse of "rights". The reserve back home does it properly with string nets and boats. Not this disgusting feat of inhumanity.

How are the fish in the net killed?

[Speckle55]

Circle of Life .. its been that way for centuries..

Don,t step on the ground or grass as you kill hundreds of organizims etc with every step and crush arms and legs /spilling their guts everywhere..

OMG!!! :snapoutofit:

Food for Thought
David:)

[Okotokian]

"Massacre"? Sounds like PETA posted the video. How do you kill landed fish on your charters? I'm assuming it's with a whack on the head, no?

[Walleye101]

Do they die after spawn at that particular part of the river? If they do die I see no problem with it. Those fish will be used up entirely. My god people. Have you ever seen massive net's set in lakes? This is really no different. These people rely on those fish!

[TROLLER]

"Massacre"? Sounds like PETA posted the video. How do you kill landed fish on your charters? I'm assuming it's with a whack on the head, no?

Could not have said it better. While I don't condon all native "rights" their method of dispatching the fish is no different than mine if I am keeping a catch.

[Stewie]

Could not have said it better. While I don't condon all native "rights" their method of dispatching the fish is no different than mine if I am keeping a catch.

You stomp on fish to kill them??

[rammer]

Do they die after spawn at that particular part of the river? If they do die I see no problem with it. Those fish will be used up entirely. My god people. Have you ever seen massive net's set in lakes? This is really no different. These people rely on those fish!

Ya they rely on the fish to buy drugs and Champ Bailey jerseys

[winged1]

I'm guessing Paul Watson would suddenly be Ok for some.

[Serengeti Charters]

"Massacre"? Sounds like PETA posted the video. How do you kill landed fish on your charters? I'm assuming it's with a whack on the head, no?

The native in the video is the one that says massacre, using his words. And the thing that bugs me the most is the way they are stomping and beating the pulp out of the bodies of the fish indicates to me that most of these fish won't be eaten.

As for the aren't they going to die comment, yes, but this is after they spawn...these fish have not spawned yet and contributed to creating more fish for the future.

[FishHunterPro]

Looks like a great way of catching fish to me. That's a minor catch in my opinion. They could have a giant net across the river or be in a boat some where dragging a huge net catching everything around by the hundreds or thousands.

[Serengeti Charters]

Well, they may be eaten...but by the public after they are bought from them...and the meat won't be all that great after this.

[pikergolf]

Seriously, if people are upset about the way the fish die, you need to research the way those wonderful packets of meat end up in the meat dept. of the supermarket.

[Mutter87]

Do they die after spawn at that particular part of the river? If they do die I see no problem with it. Those fish will be used up entirely. My god people. Have you ever seen massive net's set in lakes? This is really no different. These people rely on those fish!

If they rely on the fish why do we give them money? Seems they rely more on me paying taxes then they do on these fish.

[Walleye101]

You are getting off topic now Mutter87. Call your federal government rep.

[Badflies]

It is an issue of fisheries management and conservation. I was there watching them trap the salmon a couple years ago. It's actually much worse in person. The whole river is blocked and EVERY salmon spawning is slaughtered. FYI this would be super illegal in Alberta. It's bad sportsmanship bad resource management and gives all traditional native hunters and fisherman a bad name. Let's see how the forums would react if these were local walleye...

[sniderscott]

Seriously, if people are upset about the way the fish die, you need to research the way those wonderful packets of meat end up in the meat dept. of the supermarket.

and what makes you think I don't?

[pikergolf]

and what makes you think I don't?

Don't what? do the research? If you did then good on you, you'll agree it's pretty disturbing then? But is it enough to make you change the way you buy your meat?

[BeeGuy]

Great Video, thanks for posting.

Wish I could have been there, looks like a lot of fun.

[pophouseman]

Whats the problem, let them be. you all stole their land anyway


Seriously, if the fish are going to be eaten and used, and they were LEAGALLY taken, then what is the problem with the video

I would say the biggest concern would be for the children who seemed to be enjoying killing the fish (cruelty towards animals is one side of the serial killer triad)

As far as them actually taking of fish and killing them? big deal. I have done it.

Cast-Reel-fight-land-boink-cut-sizzle-yum!!!!

whats the difference.

[pophouseman]

WON"T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN



http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=131470&highlight=Sundancefisher

[Redfrog]

Could be they are doing research.:thinking-006:

[winged1]

Pretty sure the Capilano is 100% hatchery, like in taxpayers fish. Anyone know otherwise.

[BeeGuy]

Ya they rely on the fish to buy drugs and Champ Bailey jerseys

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg523/elbee69/images99_zpsed2c7059.jpg

[aulrich]

There is/was a hatchery(though I am trying to remember if there were 2 north shore rivers but I am pretty sure it was on the cap,

It looks like dip netting just with salmon and not suckers. Ironically I would bet there are "white folk" gaffing them with big hooked jigs right below the entrance to the hatchery. At least they were when I was living there 16 + years ago.

Just imagine what buffalo jumps use to be like, run a heard off, process like mad till you have all you can handle or the meat has gone bad, leave the rest.

Killing animals for food is never neat work, mind you they do need a little practice on the fish bonker.

[Alberta Bigbore]

awww a select few ruined it for others... :)