Fusion ammo

[MuleyHunter]

I have a Sako A7 270 wsm and it is shooting factory fusion 150 grs really well. I reload for all my other rifles and want to load up some for my 270 wsm. Since these factory fusions shoot really well I want to use these bullets for reloading. Does anyone know what kind of bullets they are and if I can buy the bullets to reload? Thanks

[bulletman]

The Speer Deep Curl is the reloading equivalent of the Fusion bullet. They are a flat base bullet and they retain 90 per cent in my wet newspaper test. This is a fairweather test. No shoulder bones etc.

[TheLegend]

Those fusions are incredible. Cheap but they perform like a higher end bullet!! I have heard many a story of guys ditching there high end preferences and going with fusion.

[MuleyHunter]

I might have to give those speers a try. Otherwise I'll just use factory ammo this season

[ShawnM]

If I had to use factory ammo I'd probably go to the fusions. I had to grab a box in a pinch last year and they performed very well.

[hunterbobthebuilder]

I'm pretty impressed with them out of ladybowhunters abolt they shoot 1inch at 205yards with a bad wind. That's with her shooting it of course

[1shotwade]

The 165 grain out of .300 wsm are my go to bullet. bang flop nuff said.

[Cal]

I've used the 150's on moose with good results in my 270win. That rifle is currently sighted in for 130's and they drop deer like the hammer of Thor. I talked to a member who used 130's to kill a pretty big moose and he was realy happy with the way they performed.

[J.B.]

Gonna be different here and say I hate the bullet...shooting 180s out of my .30-06 last year I lost a mule buck when, to my best guess, the bullet completely disintegrated on the shoulder. This was quartering towards at 150 yards...tracked him for a mile on very small drops of blood before I lost it completely...switched to nosler partitions this year...

[Cal]

Gonna be different here and say I hate the bullet...shooting 180s out of my .30-06 last year I lost a mule buck when, to my best guess, the bullet completely disintegrated on the shoulder. This was quartering towards at 150 yards...tracked him for a mile on very small drops of blood before I lost it completely...switched to nosler partitions this year...

And yet I have never recovered a 130 grain bullet, all pass throughs...:argue2:

[J.B.]

And yet I have never recovered a 130 grain bullet, all pass throughs...:argue2:

Interesting...i've butchered several deer taken with these bullets, and most of them had multiple bullet fragments in them yet...really not very impressed with them...

[Alberta Bigbore]

I have yet to own a rifle that wont shoot them well.

[Austin]

I have yet to own a rifle that wont shoot them well.

I thought the same too. Funny, I'm a fan of the Fusions but I found that the .243's would not group consitantly with my T/C Encore

[vcmm]

I have yet to own a rifle that wont shoot them well.

The tomatoe stakes you use should work well with this chitty ammo.:scared0018:

[CNP]

140 gr 7mm08. 205 yard pass-through. Found it on the ground right where the ewe was standing............just squeeked through and fell out.

No fragmentation...

This ammo groups sub moa on my A7

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/Di1/2010sheephunt115.jpg

[raab]

I just started using the 130gr out of my 270 and its put down 2 does no problem. 1 at 150 yards the other 260 yards.

[MuleyHunter]

I can't find any fusions for 270 wsm. I might have to try reload speers. Will they work with my lee dies?

[Cal]

Interesting...i've butchered several deer taken with these bullets, and most of them had multiple bullet fragments in them yet...really not very impressed with them...

Interesting, I butcher all my own game and I have found no fragments, the exit wounds arent even overly large. On one doe I shot this year the bullet entered behind the shoulder and exited just infront of the rear quarter, a couple ribs broken and I'm going to say at least 18-20" of penetration. The only one I have recovered was a 150 that I found under the offside hide on a moose. The mushroom was a little lopsided and ugly but weight retention seemed good. Once again no fragments....

[Mike_W]

Gonna be different here and say I hate the bullet...shooting 180s out of my .30-06 last year I lost a mule buck when, to my best guess, the bullet completely disintegrated on the shoulder. This was quartering towards at 150 yards...tracked him for a mile on very small drops of blood before I lost it completely...switched to nosler partitions this year...

That buck must have been wearing his Kevlar shoulder vest!

Fusions work great my grandfather shoots them out of his 308 win and has shot a couple bull moose and a couple deer all one shot kills.
My buddy also shoots them with similar results!!

[Lefty-Canuck]

I tried some of these at the range this past week and put 5 in an inch and 3 of those were in one hole in my 260 improved. They are hard to find in 260 rem though. Good thing I picked up a couple more boxes today.

LC

[bulletman]

Recovered Deep Curl, friends cow elk, lung, heart, shoulder far side, retained 134 out of 175 grain from 7mm Rem.Mag. 76 per cent!

[Lefty-Canuck]

Recovered Deep Curl, friends cow elk, lung, heart, shoulder far side, retained 134 out of 175 grain from 7mm Rem.Mag. 76 per cent!

Is that the bullet they use in fusion ammo?

If so, anyone know where I can get some deep curl in 6.5mm?

LC

[bulletman]

The Speer Deep Curl is not exactly the same as the Fusion bullet. Fusions are boat tails as far as I know. Similar performance from same company. I have been getting most of my Deep Curls from Cabela's!

[Lefty-Canuck]

The Speer Deep Curl is not exactly the same as the Fusion bullet. Fusions are boat tails as far as I know. Similar performance from same company. I have been getting most of my Deep Curls from Cabela's!

I just checked and in the 6.5 they don't offer a 120 grain bullet.....the Fusions are 120 gr.....dang I knew there would be a catch!

LC

[Hogie135]

I just put three bullets into what looked like only one ragged hole of those fusions in my new .270! Awesome bullets!

[Ebrand]

Had to use my boy's 270 WSM because some idiot (me) left his rifle behind last year.

140gr Fusion at 45yards on a 485lb on the rail, Bull Moose.

He did not even blink. Just collapsed on the spot with a tiny entrance and tiny exit. All the innards in the chest were destroyed completely. Might have lost 3 or 4 mouthfulls of useable rib meat. Hit a rib on the way in and the way out.

Shoots cloverleafs all day at 100m.

Barely bought dies to reload it. Hope I can build some that shoot close to that good.

I am a huge Accubond fan.
If I have to use factory stuff, I will buy Fusions.

[CNP]

The Speer Deep Curl is not exactly the same as the Fusion bullet. Fusions are boat tails as far as I know. Similar performance from same company. I have been getting most of my Deep Curls from Cabela's!

Check post #15. Not boat tail.

From Chuck Hawks (http://www.chuckhawks.com/speer_hunting_bullets.htm):


Bonded core bullets are all the rage, so new to the Speer line is the Deep Curl bonded bullet. This uses a pre-formed lead core and a plated jacket, resulting in what Speer describes as an electro-chemical bond. The core and jacket are fused at the molecular level. (Speer pioneered plating bullet jackets with their TMJ handgun bullets.) The Deep Curl technology sounds identical to the process that creates the bullets used in Fusion factory loads. Speer's parent company ATK also owns Fusion, so that makes perfect sense. The Speer Deep Curl is formed with a slightly cupped flat base, said to aid accuracy. The bonding of jacket to core virtually eliminates the possibility of jacket/core separation after impact, ensuring high weight retention.

[Steven_Y]

Shot them work great no complaints. Look into Federal they have some wicked ammo for cheap as well. Shooting 30-06 180g trophybonded. Rip a nice dime size hole in the side of a white tail this year.

[bulletman]

Fusion bullets are boat tails and Speer Deep Curl are flat base!

[Lefty-Canuck]

Fusion bullets are boat tails and Speer Deep Curl are flat base!

I have a box in front of me..on the back it shows a pic and claims a boat-tail on the Fusion bullet...but it looks very slight and not pronounced.

LC

[bulletman]

I guess what I'm trying to say is the Fusion Bullet and the Speer Deep Curls are two different bullets, as in Not the same!

[rugerparts]

Its true the Fusion and Deep Curl aren't the same - boat tail vs flat bottom "with slight cup". The forming method is the same for both: copper electroplated on to lead alloy and then pressure formed. The terminal ballistics of each will be very similar. In flight the Fusions will be slightly higher in BC while the Deep Curls can claim a slightly higher stability. The effects of the difference are not likely to be apparent until 300 yards. Still, it's a different shape so there's always a chance your rifle barrel won't like them as much.

[bulletman]

Rugerparts, I couldn't have said it better myself!

[SKSniper]

Gonna be different here and say I hate the bullet...shooting 180s out of my .30-06 last year I lost a mule buck when, to my best guess, the bullet completely disintegrated on the shoulder. This was quartering towards at 150 yards...tracked him for a mile on very small drops of blood before I lost it completely...switched to nosler partitions this year...

I doubt it completley disentegrated. I shot all three of my whiteails this year with 165's from a .308 and all passed right through with the exit wounds no bigger than a toonie.(one through a shoulder). I found quite the opposite, they didnt expand very much at all but all 3 deer dropped in their tracks. Just my opinion...who knows. I was extremley impressed with the Fusions.

[CNP]

Manufacturer:Federal Fusion Ammunition F708FS1
Ammo Caliber:7mm-08 Remington Ammo
Ammo Quantity:20/200 RoundsBullet Weight:140 GrainMuzzle Velocity:
2850 fps.
Muzzle Energy:
2525 ft. lbs
Bullet Type:Spitzer Boat Tail (SBT)Ammo Casing:Boxer-Primed Brass

Well this is how TargetSport USA describes the 140gr 708 bullet. Not much of a tail on the 708 I tell ya...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/Di1/2010sheephunt115.jpg

[fishtank]

I've used the 150's on moose with good results in my 270win. That rifle is currently sighted in for 130's and they drop deer like the hammer of Thor. I talked to a member who used 130's to kill a pretty big moose and he was realy happy with the way they performed.
i use the 130's on my tikka 270win they work like a charm, one bulllet one kill ratio .