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hunterbobthebuilder
11-06-2012, 12:46 PM
Not even sure if this is legal but my gramps always told me your not a real hunter till you can take a grouses head off with a large caliber rifle. Anyone else do this when then don't have a shot gun or 22 handy ?

1899b
11-06-2012, 12:48 PM
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TheLegend
11-06-2012, 12:48 PM
Waste. Must be awfully desperate if your going to shoot a grouse with a 300 winnie or something like that.

1899b
11-06-2012, 12:48 PM
Aint no thang but a grouses wing!!! :sHa_shakeshout:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/Win94/YellowheadCounty-20121006-00402.jpg

elkhunter11
11-06-2012, 12:49 PM
It's legal in Alberta, but neither myself or my hunting partners shoot grouse when we are hunting big game.

hunterbobthebuilder
11-06-2012, 12:50 PM
Waste. Must be awfully desperate if your going to shoot a grouse with a 300 winnie or something like that.

Not sure where the waste would come from if your taking there head off ? Do you eat the eye balls or something ?

1899b
11-06-2012, 12:50 PM
It's legal in Alberta, but neither myself or my hunting partners shoot grouse when we are hunting big game.

When the tags are filled i do...

Okotokian
11-06-2012, 12:50 PM
Asked myself this exact question yesterday morning as I looked at a fat grouse in a tree, having my .270 in my hands... figured a head shot was entirely do-able.

TheLegend
11-06-2012, 12:53 PM
Not sure where the waste would come from if your taking there head off ? Do you eat the eye balls or something ?

Wasting your bullets.

elkhunter11
11-06-2012, 12:55 PM
When the tags are filled i do...

When the tags are all filled, you shouldn't still be hunting big game.:sHa_sarcasticlol:

NIKON
11-06-2012, 01:01 PM
:huh:

hunterbobthebuilder
11-06-2012, 01:01 PM
Wasting your bullets.

Only need one bullet for a big game correct what's the max amount of tags you can get at once 4? Or 5? So maybe tops 8 bullets needed so there's 20 in a box 20-8=12 where's the wasting if your eating?

1899b
11-06-2012, 01:03 PM
When the tags are all filled, you shouldn't still be hunting big game.:sHa_sarcasticlol:

:sHa_shakeshout:

Richard B.
11-06-2012, 01:05 PM
Cast bullet loads work well for small game -

I once shot a grouse with a .30-06 and my plan was to take off it's head but as I squeezed off it decided to fly and my bullet struck the grouse in mid-body and flight.

There was a very spectacular explosion of feathers and we did manage to recover one wing.

catnthehat
11-06-2012, 01:23 PM
Some old timers would ague thsat you are not a hunter unless you can shoot them on the wing while they are flying through the poplars and jack pines!:sign0161:
Cat

riden
11-06-2012, 01:28 PM
Fill your boots if you want to, lots of people do it and it is perfectly acceptable.

If you feel you can do it with little chance of meat loss, shoot away and have fun.

But if you use a shottie when they are grounded, we're fighting:argue2:

catnthehat
11-06-2012, 01:34 PM
Fill your boots if you want to, lots of people do it and it is perfectly acceptable.

If you feel you can do it with little chance of meat loss, shoot away and have fun.

But if you use a shottie when they are grounded, we're fighting:argue2:

I know quite a few guys who have no peobloems taking head shots n grouse, and they do it quite often!:)
We used to take the muzzle loading rifles out with the sole purpose of grouse hunting!:)
Cat

TheLegend
11-06-2012, 01:37 PM
Only need one bullet for a big game correct what's the max amount of tags you can get at once 4? Or 5? So maybe tops 8 bullets needed so there's 20 in a box 20-8=12 where's the wasting if your eating?


Your not accounting for misses which will always happen. Lol just having fun

TheLegend
11-06-2012, 01:38 PM
Some old timers would ague thsat you are not a hunter unless you can shoot them on the wing while they are flying through the poplars and jack pines!:sign0161:
Cat

:sHa_shakeshout:

TheLegend
11-06-2012, 01:40 PM
when the tags are all filled, you shouldn't still be hunting big game.:sha_sarcasticlol:

nailed it

1899b
11-06-2012, 01:41 PM
nailed it

Learn about squib loads possibly fellas...... IMR Trailboss with a hardcast bullet gives me a dead on sight in at 25 yards.

duffy4
11-06-2012, 01:56 PM
I have shot a few heads off, grouse and a ptarmigan with my big rifle.

One grouse I hit a little low and the top of the breast meat was sort of a jelly like consistency.

I believe it was the "energy in the bullet transmitting shock" to the adjacent meat.

I apologize in advance if that comment derails this thread onto a bullet performance tangent.

Andrzej
11-06-2012, 02:03 PM
My best ever Sharptail shot was at 107 y with 140 gr TSX out of 7 STW...
cut the neck half way through....I am 3" high on 100y with all my rifles so I aimed at the base of neck...

As to taking head off it was 10 y 338 Win Mag 225 Barnes TTSX.

Attilathecanuk
11-06-2012, 02:19 PM
Not even sure if this is legal but my gramps always told me your not a real hunter till you can take a grouses head off with a large caliber rifle. Anyone else do this when then don't have a shot gun or 22 handy ?

did it on Sunday with my hunting buddy and brand new 7mmRem Mag 11/111!!

Okotokian
11-06-2012, 02:21 PM
I have shot a few heads off, grouse and a ptarmigan with my big rifle.


No problem with that, as long as they are on the ground. In my case, with bird in a tree, I was thinking "this bullet is going to go and go and go... god knows where. Pass".

Big Daddy Badger
11-06-2012, 03:40 PM
But if you use a shottie when they are grounded, we're fighting:argue2:


And why is that?

houndsmen
11-06-2012, 03:49 PM
Waste. Must be awfully desperate if your going to shoot a grouse with a 300 winnie or something like that.

Do terms like "300 winnie" bother anyone else, just curious?:sHa_sarcasticlol:

killer18
11-06-2012, 03:53 PM
When the tags are filled i do...

please stop hunting

Bigwoodsman
11-06-2012, 03:55 PM
I've shot grouse this way in the past, not often but I have done it. Taken the head right off of one. One other grouse fell over never had a mark on it. The shot was less then 10 yards, not sure what stunned the other, might been muzzle blast, or the repercussion of the hit, not sure but it was stunned, picked it up and had to dispatch it by hand.

BW

Walleyes
11-06-2012, 03:55 PM
please stop hunting

Why ??? theres wolf, theres coyote, theres grouse, heck when one hunt is over the next starts. Stay out there as long as you can..

riden
11-06-2012, 03:59 PM
And why is that?

I'm just joking. We need a sarcasm icon

Lady Bowhunter
11-06-2012, 04:36 PM
And this thread has been started due to the fact that I am out hunting and have seen plenty of grouse but will not take a shot with my 270 in the same woods I am hunting. The only shot will be to take down my buck. I don't see why I should be shooting birds and spooking my game lol!

elkhunter11
11-06-2012, 04:39 PM
And this thread has been started due to the fact that I am out hunting and have seen plenty of grouse but will not take a shot with my 270 in the same woods I am hunting. The only shot will be to take down my buck. I don't see why I should be shooting birds and spooking my game lol!

That is exactly how our hunting party operates. When we hunt big game, we don't shoot grouse. Sometimes big game will pay no attention to a shot, but sometimes they will.

Lady Bowhunter
11-06-2012, 04:44 PM
That is exactly how our hunting party operates. When we hunt big game, we don't shoot grouse. Sometimes big game will pay no attention to a shot, but sometimes they will.

Exactly.

dale7637
11-06-2012, 04:44 PM
Its unreal how we as hunters can find such stupid chit to argue about.

If its legal and ethical, who cares. Did we really need a discussion on this?

Pincherguy
11-06-2012, 04:49 PM
Its unreal how we as hunters can find such stupid chit to argue about.

If its legal and ethical, who cares. Did we really need a discussion on this?

I agree! Now does any one know that the price of rice in China went up 10 cents a busshel. Discusting, what do you think.

PG

Okotokian
11-06-2012, 04:52 PM
Its unreal how we as hunters can find such stupid chit to argue about.

If its legal and ethical, who cares. Did we really need a discussion on this?

Hey, at least it's remotely connected to hunting, as opposed to half the threads here started by guys with an axe to grind with Obama, the middle east, terrorism. I swear a couple guys think this a political forum and that they are actually US citizens..

Hotwheels81
11-06-2012, 05:13 PM
It's twice now I have shot a grouse within 10M with my .22 and stunned it without leaving a single mark... Maybe I should switch to a bigger caliber? Where can I send feathers to have them tested for Kevlar content?... Would I be better off with a TTSX or a SGK?... Is it against the law to keep a stunned wild bird as a pet?...

So many questions :D

silver
11-06-2012, 07:05 PM
Yeah, Once I used a 94 winchester rifle in 32 special to take to spruce grouse out of the trees. I t was the last day of moose season, getting on towards dark, the damn spruce grouse had scared the poop out of me more times than I can count by taking of from the snow right in front of my feet. I was walking back to camp, two grouse came up out of the snow right in front of me and landed in a tree about twenty yards away, took the head off one of them. A couple of hundred yards later, same thing. Hadnt seen a moose all week, the grouse tasted pretty good.

jim summit
11-06-2012, 07:33 PM
Hey it's no different than a big Magnum on deer..... Take the head right off. :lol:

Hunter65
11-06-2012, 07:45 PM
I have never shot at a grouse with a large caliber rifle.

Now that my daughter has become my #1 hunting partner, she walks with me, her .22 in hand. If we see a grouse, she'll take it, even though I'm out for deer. Whatever. It's all good. I don't really care if I bag a deer anyways. We're out there cause we like tromping around in the bush, getting fresh air, and because it's good father/daughter time (even if she doesn't know it!!).

But I don't think I would take a grouse with a large caliber even if I had the chance, or if no deer were around, etc. Dad always used a .22 to the head, has worked for me, and will work for my daughter, too.

DCse7en
11-06-2012, 07:56 PM
You aren't a real hunter until you have killed a grouse with a sling shot!!

catnthehat
11-06-2012, 08:06 PM
You aren't a real hunter until you have killed a grouse with a sling shot!!

Then you have to drink a quart of moonshine, make love to a wild polar bear, and then kill an Eskimo maiden wit the same slingshot- or is that drink a quart of moonshine, make love to a.......:confused:
Cat

Pincherguy
11-06-2012, 09:15 PM
Then you have to drink a quart of moonshine, make love to a wild polar bear, and then kill an Eskimo maiden wit the same slingshot- or is that drink a quart of moonshine, make love to a.......:confused:
Cat

I never could get all that straight, still trying. The warden told me to lay off the moonshine and I might have a chance. :sign0161: What the hail does she know (hicup)
PG

catnthehat
11-06-2012, 09:20 PM
Here's a spruce hen that was shot in the head with my .577 Snider a few years back.
This gun comes nowhere near the classification of "smallbore"!:sHa_sarcasticlol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/catnthehat/northernguidewithtrophy.jpg
Cat

Elkaholic6
11-06-2012, 09:35 PM
My buddy shot one with his .338 Lapua :lol:

Pincherguy
11-07-2012, 06:45 AM
My buddy shot one with his .338 Lapua :lol:

That ain't Shakespear, but soooo close. lol
PG

1899b
11-07-2012, 07:37 AM
Its unreal how we as hunters can find such stupid chit to argue about.

If its legal and ethical, who cares. Did we really need a discussion on this?

Exactly. There's some real winners here with tons of internet bravado. Out of all the forums i haunt, both Canadian and American, this one is the most cutthroat and worst when it comes to folks with chips on their shoulders. Sure sucks cuz its the forum based in Alberta where I have called home for 40 years....

Nait Hadya
11-07-2012, 09:53 AM
272 yards....25 wssm....ON THE GROUND! :fighting0030:

avi
11-07-2012, 10:45 AM
I like to use my bow nice and quiet and good practice

Lady Bowhunter
11-07-2012, 10:56 AM
Yup I've done that before! This is when I first got my bow and didn't want to damage carbons.

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t478/Devinetimes01/E03E4636-817F-4FEC-8F9D-88C154D60DDC-2381-000004655F803FDC.jpg

west250
11-07-2012, 07:11 PM
I like to behead grouse with 4 dollar bullets when I'm bored, hungry or both. Some grouse only cost 4 bucks, some are patient enough to let me put one or two more 4 dollar bullets towards their heads. Finally I got smart and purchased a decent bolt action 22 which brings the the cost per pound down considerably if I'm close to the truck...
:thinking-006:

west250
11-07-2012, 07:14 PM
Here's a spruce hen that was shot in the head with my .577 Snider a few years back.
This gun comes nowhere near the classification of "smallbore"!:sHa_sarcasticlol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/catnthehat/northernguidewithtrophy.jpg
Cat

Could have been a great picture Cat - if the photog coulda mooved a little to the right!!

Fried grouse for breakie is high on my list for fine dining in the bush!

huntin'fool
11-08-2012, 08:57 AM
Asked myself this exact question yesterday morning as I looked at a fat grouse in a tree, having my .270 in my hands... figured a head shot was entirely do-able.

This scares me. To think that there are people who would consider a head shot on a grouse in a tree. Think about where the bullet travels after it pops the head off??
No offence Okotokian, I do not know you, nor am judging you. It just scares me to think of people shooting in the air at about a 45 degree angle with high velocity, centre fire cartridges.

densa44
11-08-2012, 03:02 PM
Long long ago in a land far away when hunters only had one gun, they made up "squib" loads for their full bore guns, A popular one was 17 gr. of Red Dot in a 30-06 case with a .30 cal lead ball squeezed into the neck of the case. It gave about 1200 fps and it was used to shoot small game with the big gun. The reasons given were that they didn't want to hurt the meat.

If you have a misspent youth and are still good with a sling shot, that IMO is the way to go.

Cat a .577 to shoot a spruce grouse, and then get a picture taken. It may be time for an intervention!

catnthehat
11-08-2012, 03:07 PM
Long long ago in a land far away when hunters only had one gun, they made up "squib" loads for their full bore guns, A popular one was 17 gr. of Red Dot in a 30-06 case with a .30 cal lead ball squeezed into the neck of the case. It gave about 1200 fps and it was used to shoot small game with the big gun. The reasons given were that they didn't want to hurt the meat.

If you have a misspent youth and are still good with a sling shot, that IMO is the way to go.

Cat a .577 to shoot a spruce grouse, and then get a picture taken. It may be time for an intervention!

It's all good!!
I FWIW, I have loaded 110 grain Speer plinkers and 180 grain cast bullets with Red Dot in the '06, and 4895 and .32S&W cast bullets for the .303 Brit.
Cat

waterninja
11-08-2012, 03:09 PM
i shot 8 grouse last week in the edson/hinton area, all in the head. my wife loves baked partridge breasts and so do I. don't consider it a waste at all and quite frankly it was kind of fun. i did miss 2 however. they got small heads, and they like to bob and weave.