Global TV crew escorted out of Attawapiskat

[270WinMag]

It looks like the reserve residents do not have freedom of speech.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2013/01/08/20481611.html

[HunterDave]

I posted the link on Facebook yesterday and my comment was this:

"I'm seriously starting to get creeped out. Spence on lockdown, residents of Attawaspikat told to not talk to the media and a Global news crew kicked out! This is soooooo reminiscent of what happened in Jonestown in 1978! ":(

Anyone remember Jonestown and the poison coolaide?

[bigshell]

I remember the Jonestown massacre.Ya this whole thing is getting more bizzare by the hour.She won't attend this meeting she's been striking for because the GG won't be there? What the frik is she got up her sleeve? She's starting to come across as a crazy person.

[rugatika]

:sHa_shakeshout:

What a brilliant move. The best way to get the media to get on your side and to quit snooping around is to have them escorted out of town. Sounds like she's getting all her great ideas from old Scooby Doo reruns.

Accounting - FAIL
New Diet - FAIL
Public Relations - FAIL
Getting creepy boyfriend's googly eyes fixed - FAIL

[Unregistered user]

They couldn't get enough of the media last year when they were playing "Poor little me".

[Ice Fishing Maniac]

They couldn't get enough of the media last year when they were playing "Poor little me".

Isnt that soooo true!!!

[Sporty]

They couldn't get enough of the media last year when they were playing "Poor little me".

It isn't a matter of "they", it's Spence and her gang. Of course she doesn't want her own band members talking to the media because she's in the hot seat right now. Heard on the news yesterday that the order for reporter to be escorted off came from Spence herself. She's trying to do damage control now and that is why she's refusing to attend the meeting with the PM, she doesn't want to be confronted about her mismanagement in front of her peers. If the GG decided to attend that meeting, I have little doubt that she'd find another reason not to attend.

[Matt L.]

I think it's time for a political review or whatever it's called into the management of that band. I don't care what you call yourself, corruption knows no racial boundaries.

[dgl1948]

It isn't a matter of "they", it's Spence and her gang. Of course she doesn't want her own band members talking to the media because she's in the hot seat right now. Heard on the news yesterday that the order for reporter to be escorted off came from Spence herself. She's trying to do damage control now and that is why she's refusing to attend the meeting with the PM, she doesn't want to be confronted about her mismanagement in front of her peers. If the GG decided to attend that meeting, I have little doubt that she'd find another reason not to attend.

Yes, it is a sad situation. They already suffer from her actions and management.

[Hagalaz]

They couldn't get enough of the media last year when they were playing "Poor little me".

No kidding.

This is just another little game by a woman who is a pro at playing them.

[Sooner]

No kidding.

This is just another little game by a woman who is a pro at playing them.


But she can sure put on those woe is me eyes and sad look for the cameras when she wants to. A pro is right. But I think the candle is burning from both ends for her.

[canoes]

Sounds like she's getting all her great ideas from old Scooby Doo reruns.


Thats not very nice , scoob has solved many mysteries over the years. Put them on the case and I am sure the lost money was taken by the ghost chief of Attawapiskat! :sHa_sarcasticlol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_psRb5AtpI



Larry

[FIE50Cal]

No kidding.

This is just another little game by a woman who is a pro at playing them.


Although this time I'm not sure whose advice she was following on the hunger strike.

Speaking as a fat guy, if I told you I was going on a hunger strike until you met my terms, I'm pretty sure you 'd be thinking, well, "There's a decision I can put off for a couple of months". :-)

[calebwest1987]

Google native millionaires club it's little video about 10 mins where it talked about spence and her "accountability"

[Rocky7]

"We have the power," Derek Nepinak, the grand chief of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs, told reporters. "The Idle No More movement has the people and the numbers that can bring the Canadian economy to its knees. It can stop Prime Minister Harper's resource development plan and his billion-dollar plan to develop resources in ancestral territories. We have the warriors that are standing up now that are willing to go that far. So we're not here to make requests. We're here to demand attention and to demand an end to 140 years of colonial rule. That's what we're all about."

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/01/20130110-122239.html

Fine.

Lets' stop paying their hydro bills....see how tough the talk is when it gets cold and dark for a few days. We'll see who is on their knees and who is not.

[jetta5678]

"We have the power," Derek Nepinak, the grand chief of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs, told reporters. "The Idle No More movement has the people and the numbers that can bring the Canadian economy to its knees. ."

.

Sad but true, and it will be much easier to bring the Canadian economy to it's knees since they have weakened it's ankles by riding it's back as a passenger.

[Winch101]

Who are the powers behind this whole mess....I am sure the

security forces are keeping an eye on Terry Nelson and Dennis Pashe

wards of the Iranian Govt....Likely on the payroll as are a good number of middle eastern terrorist groups...

I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist ,....but these people do not have ability or political will to be the brains behind these rediculous demands .

The iranian govt has made promises in their media that if they were a canadian power that the natives would get their land back . Their country would be returned..do you think that anybody in the FN would believe that .
The only reason Abajibajab hasnt been droned is that there are so many
american Iranians with familly in Iran , that repercussions would be guaranteed...

This is great TV....I have quit watching friends reruns just to watch the CBC.
Sooner or later after Steve talks to his good buddy Barac...their are going to be mass arrests , its not gonna be pretty..

[Gust]

If you were subsisting on fish broth and a secret stash of Eatmore bars for the last 3 weeks, I'm sure your judgement calls and management strategies would be very skewed too. Top all that off with being accountable to poor accounting practice with a hun-million buckeroonies, then things said become even more squirrelly.

[Big Daddy Badger]

It looks like the reserve residents do not have freedom of speech.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2013/01/08/20481611.html

They don't want the folks they are screwing to tell us where they think all their money has been going.
Good Lord... conclusions drawn from years of being bent over by the band higherachy might upset the apple cart and create some real news and that would just ruin everything for the privilaged few.

[HunterDave]

They don't want the folks they are screwing to tell us where they think all their money has been going.
Good Lord... conclusions drawn from years of being bent over by the band higherachy might upset the apple cart and create some real news and that would just ruin everything for the privilaged few.

Stockholm Syndrome.

[Big Daddy Badger]

Stockholm Syndrome.

Well they defonatley seem to be under someones thumb.
I seem to recall hints of virtual martial law the last time to.

[fickell]

Masterlock !!!! Ibtl

[Winch101]

SunNews piece on Nepotism is rampant on reserves...so if your not a member ofthechiefs family or bowling team....your screwed .This is just way it is in tribal
Communities . It is not any kind ofdemocracy ,it is racism of sorts ,I see the dept of Indian. Affairs becoming bigger players on reserves ,back to the Indian
Agent days ,you got your monthly stipend in person....no band bureaucracy .
No pork barrelling that's a white mans area of expertise .
Theresa up for People's choice award....best performance as a starving person
On CBC this year ,I thought it was pathetic...

Kudos to the Feds...deny , deny., blah , blah ,blah, divide and conquer .
You have give Atleo credit,he knows who,s writing the cheques.....
All very predictable.....Time to switch to the disarmament of our
Southern neighbours.....

[CanuckShooter]

Masterlock !!!! Ibtl

X2-this thread serves no useful purpose other than providing a forum for further native bashing.

[Kanonfodder]

If you see bashing report it, there is wide spread corruption at band offices throughout Canada calling it racism or native bashing is as bad as staying silent and allowing it to continue

[Dacotensis]

X2-this thread serves no useful purpose other than providing a forum for further native bashing.

Actually as the Op says in his 1st post, this thread may bring to light why some of my fellow Canadians are not being given a forum to speak their true minds.
I know you will agree this is important.
I think it is. So many have given their lives in world wars so Canada can have freedom of speech.
I think there is a valid question at hand.

[Anvil1010]

X2-this thread serves no useful purpose other than providing a forum for further native bashing.

WTF is this supposed to mean? People are voiceing their opinion on a Canadian issue that hopefully is finally coming to a head. I am so tired of having to pay for the Indians that don't do anything. And before you bash me, I am married into a family that is Native, and most of them are tired of all this BS as well. As well, there are parts of their own family they want nothing to do with as they are useless .

[Walleyes]

X2-this thread serves no useful purpose other than providing a forum for further native bashing.

People are pizzed off,, they have had a enough of this BS and want to voice their opinion on a very important issue to all Canadians..

We didn't start this fight,,but we sure as heck will Finnish it,,, again..

[rwm1273]

If you see bashing report it, there is wide spread corruption at band offices throughout Canada calling it racism or native bashing is as bad as staying silent and allowing it to continue

Thank you.

[HunterDave]

She won't attend this meeting she's been striking for because the GG won't be there? What the frik is she got up her sleeve? She's starting to come across as a crazy person.

Spence boycotted the PM/AFN meeting this afternoon but she's at the Gov Gen's ceremony now.

[rwm1273]

Spence boycotted the PM/AFN meeting this afternoon but she's at the Gov Gen's ceremony now.

Ceremony? Is that because there is free food?

[HunterDave]

Ceremony? Is that because there is free food?

:lol: She hasn't said anything about her liquid diet. I watched a video of her press release this morning and I noticed that her rings were still tight around her fingers.

[CanuckShooter]

WTF is this supposed to mean? People are voiceing their opinion on a Canadian issue that hopefully is finally coming to a head. I am so tired of having to pay for the Indians that don't do anything. And before you bash me, I am married into a family that is Native, and most of them are tired of all this BS as well. As well, there are parts of their own family they want nothing to do with as they are useless.

So what is your opinion on Global news getting kicked off the reserve? Which was the topic of the original post.

I do note that your pizzed off paying for natives that don't do anything, and some that are useless . And obviously your points are not racist in nature because you are married into a native family. :-). Since you've now vented how about an opinion on the news reporters? :-)

[Kanonfodder]

I will bite they went up to talk to avg band members chief Spence found out and had the band police force them to leave the reserve via the back of a cruiser, if that doesnt offend you then im sorry for you to me that smacks of intimidation which on many reserves is a act of life...certain families and clans control just about every facet of life on a lot of reserves I remember friends of mine that played JR hockey in Hobbema, there is a lot wrong in those communities .... But you keep deflecting making it all about race if someone says something you dislike it's native bashing

[rwm1273]

So what is your opinion on Global news getting kicked off the reserve? Which was the topic of the original post.

I do note that your pizzed off paying for natives that don't do anything, and some that are useless . And obviously your points are not racist in nature because you are married into a native family. :-). Since you've now vented how about an opinion on the news reporters? :-)

My take on this is the Band is trying to limit it's exposure to it's poor performance to it's people. That town is the poster child for all that is wrong with Native Leadership.

[Anvil1010]

So what is your opinion on Global news getting kicked off the reserve? Which was the topic of the original post.

I do note that your pizzed off paying for natives that don't do anything, and some that are useless . And obviously your points are not racist in nature because you are married into a native family. :-). Since you've now vented how about an opinion on the news reporters? :-)

My opinion is that it is great that they were kicked off. I would hope that the media will have their eyes opened, and that they no longer kowtow to the Native groups and realize that they were being used like the rest of us. Further, it was not a rant, it was an opinion and a comment as to how I have formed my opinion. If you can't understand that, well, that is a sad commentary on todays school system. That in it self is a whole other issue.
Liberals such as yourself have got to realize sooner or later that you can't keep giving and giving and giving.
Whatever, I am out. No more comments from me.
Have a great night everyone.

[Walleyes]

I would suspect it was something to this effect she was worried they would find out.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/12/09/mark-milke-crunching-attawapiskats-numbers/

1500 people, 300 house holds,, 32 million In annual budget ??

You all do the math..

This is the type for thing that has people all riled up.. Even in the face of all this this women still has the gall to protest ?? Absolutely mind blowing.. You can cry you can scream all you want the facts are the facts.. It's bloody sickening..

[Winch101]

Just as a matter of interest , i also married a person of Indigineous descent..
and I can assure you there is no bashing going on in this household...

I think it is ludicrous to think anybody of any descent and background

who doesnt think there might be something fishy in FN going on these days .

The natives and metis I know are embarassed by the crass arrogance of the people who are making this about the way canadian society have treated them. I dont blame them never mind going to jail , your own people might
do you some grievous harm...when they realise the sriousness of your larceny.

Now to the subject at hand ....This isnt Theresas first rodeo ,she knows that the media will go right for the throat....Shes not talking to anyone without her handlers and likely lawyers close at hand . CTV have almost been as vicious as Sun News so you know shes not talking to them .

1st ? How are you feeling now that your on your 28 th day without filet mignon.

2 nd ? ...What country are your off shore accounts in ....OOOOOps:scared0018:

I bet CTV went there knowing they would be cast out thats a better story
Than another in terview with Miss Phony-balogna...wait no bologna !!!
Sad but true the media is on a feeding frenzy who ever causes the most noise , most sensational , I think Stephen should have worn that headdress
that Atleo gave him last year.

The liberal pundit for the national post ....posted on Rabble .ca that
what disturbed him the most about the whole Idle No More Protest
was that ,the most obvious point made ....was .....what a racist country
canada is....First thats what makes you a liberal , and is that ever a news flash. Thank God that Bob Rae was able to explain to the country on his priva
te broadcasting network, the CBC , just where we and the govt had gone wrong in handling this whole affair. Thank you Bob......

Always glad to help W101

[Ken07AOVette]

I would suspect it was something to this effect she was worried they would find out.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/12/09/mark-milke-crunching-attawapiskats-numbers/

1500 people, 300 house holds,, 32 million In annual budget ??

You all do the math..

This is the type for thing that has people all riled up.. Even in the face of all this this women still has the gall to protest ?? Absolutely mind blowing.. You can cry you can scream all you want the facts are the facts.. It's bloody sickening..


$106,666.66 per house per year.

Free.

And that's not enough?

How many of the 25000 members of AO have made $106,666.66 or more every year consistently?

How many in Canada?

[BGSH]

you should see what is happening in van city right now, crazy idle no more stuff, hundreds blocking city streets as we speak.

[covey ridge]

I posted the link on Facebook yesterday and my comment was this:

"I'm seriously starting to get creeped out. Spence on lockdown, residents of Attawaspikat told to not talk to the media and a Global news crew kicked out! This is soooooo reminiscent of what happened in Jonestown in 1978! ":(

Anyone remember Jonestown and the poison coolaide?

Yep! Could be something wierd like that but probably something more simple, like maybe she is gaining wieght:sHa_sarcasticlol:

[YeeHaw]

you should see what is happening in van city right now, crazy idle no more stuff, hundreds blocking city streets as we speak.

Hmmm, I could possably line up a D9 and help clear the streets. lol...JK

[covey ridge]

So what is your opinion on Global news getting kicked off the reserve? Which was the topic of the original post.

I do note that your pizzed off paying for natives that don't do anything, and some that are useless . And obviously your points are not racist in nature because you are married into a native family. :-). Since you've now vented how about an opinion on the news reporters? :-)

My take is that she just does not want her people and the media to have any contact.

[jack88]

INM is just a headless chicken bouncing around with no direction or reason.

[Walleyes]

Found this on another site,, just some more numbers about our poor hard done by friends.

EDITORIAL | TORONTO SUN

-----------------------------
When 82 First Nations chiefs and band councillors make more than the prime minister, all while many of their people live in abject poverty, something is horribly amiss. It's not new, but it is amiss.

In Alberta alone, for example, 47 chiefs and councillors made more last year than the PM's $317,574. We have serious reservations about that. (No Pun intended)

Now, since the money these chiefs and councillors pocket is grant money from taxpayers, auditing their books in search of ne'er-do-wells and misappropriated dollars would normally
receive no political pushback. But the Liberals need ink, don't they? They're a political embarrassment in search of some buzz. So, looking for a headline grabber, along comes Liberal aboriginal affairs critic Carolyn Bennett to label the newly-introduced First Nations Transparency Act -- Bill C-27 -- a "racist" and "paternalistic" piece of legislation. Well done, Ms. Bennett. There's your news hit. Now please go away.

There is absolutely nothing "racist" or "paternalistic" about Bill C-27, a vital and long-overdue piece of legislation that deserves quick passage so that all Canada will finally get to know down which hole the billions in First Nations' grant money goes.

From the outside looking in, and this is what raises many hackles, it would appear that too many chiefs and not enough Indians are living the good life on the taxpayers' dime. Bill C-27
should clear up the mess up. Much like the CBC vs. the Taxpayer, First Nations band members deserve transparency and accountability from their elected officials, and they are not getting it when their leaders refuse to come clean with where the government's money goes, or how much goes into their own pockets. What is "racist" about that?

Now, you may have never heard of the Glooscap First Nation reserve in Nova Scotia but you might be interested to know that one Mi'kmaq politician there pulled in almost $1 million in pay in 2010, while band councillors each earned between $210,000 and $260,000. Now, close your eyes and try to envision just how big the Glooscap First Nation must be to warrant such mammoth salaries. Give up? Well, in 2009, the population actually living on the reserve was 87. We didn't drop any zeroes.

[Ken07AOVette]

Found this on another site,, just some more numbers about our poor hard done by friends.

EDITORIAL | TORONTO SUN

-----------------------------
When 82 First Nations chiefs and band councillors make more than the prime minister, all while many of their people live in abject poverty, something is horribly amiss. It's not new, but it is amiss.

In Alberta alone, for example, 47 chiefs and councillors made more last year than the PM's $317,574. We have serious reservations about that. (No Pun intended)

Now, since the money these chiefs and councillors pocket is grant money from taxpayers, auditing their books in search of ne'er-do-wells and misappropriated dollars would normally
receive no political pushback. But the Liberals need ink, don't they? They're a political embarrassment in search of some buzz. So, looking for a headline grabber, along comes Liberal aboriginal affairs critic Carolyn Bennett to label the newly-introduced First Nations Transparency Act -- Bill C-27 -- a "racist" and "paternalistic" piece of legislation. Well done, Ms. Bennett. There's your news hit. Now please go away.

There is absolutely nothing "racist" or "paternalistic" about Bill C-27, a vital and long-overdue piece of legislation that deserves quick passage so that all Canada will finally get to know down which hole the billions in First Nations' grant money goes.

From the outside looking in, and this is what raises many hackles, it would appear that too many chiefs and not enough Indians are living the good life on the taxpayers' dime. Bill C-27
should clear up the mess up. Much like the CBC vs. the Taxpayer, First Nations band members deserve transparency and accountability from their elected officials, and they are not getting it when their leaders refuse to come clean with where the government's money goes, or how much goes into their own pockets. What is "racist" about that?

Now, you may have never heard of the Glooscap First Nation reserve in Nova Scotia but you might be interested to know that one Mi'kmaq politician there pulled in almost $1 million in pay in 2010, while band councillors each earned between $210,000 and $260,000. Now, close your eyes and try to envision just how big the Glooscap First Nation must be to warrant such mammoth salaries. Give up? Well, in 2009, the population actually living on the reserve was 87. We didn't drop any zeroes.

I am going to puke.

Is this all fact or propaganda?

[HunterDave]

Hold it now.........Theresa Spence's yearly salary as Chief is only $60K to $70K IIRC. I could look it back up if I had to. The biggest issue, besides unaccountable funds, is the number of people on the band council. Three Chiefs and I don't know how many other people on the payroll? Lots of money going out the door there.

[Kanonfodder]

Actually there is no way to verify any chiefs salary as they do not have to be made public

[HunterDave]

Actually there is no way to verify any chiefs salary as they do not have to be made public

It's posted in their financial statement on the Attawaspikat website.

http://www.attawapiskat.org/

[Winch101]

I can't believe how many people in this country have no idea
how long this lob sided gravy train has been running .
I don't care if no one is stealing nuttin .
The amount of money going into these reserves obviously
unchecked is really obscene . That FLaherty has the balls to
Tell seniors no cpp raise can't afford it ,then you discover this
Crap....as Kov says ....you wanna puke .

[Kanonfodder]

Am I reading this right? 11million in salaries and benefits?

[moosehead7]

what makes me gag is them protesting on the hiways like , there are WORKING people that have to get to where they are going , funding them standing on a hiway what a joke!

[Mekanik]

Not a surprise that they would remove the media: there's always some disgruntled person with an axe to grind. Seems to me, it shouldn't be so hard to find one there. The "optics" are bad enough for spence as it is without her own people telling their side of the story.

There was a release about her continued hunger strike in the national post. It also mentioned a few comments she made concerning the audit and her opinion is that the missing money was paid in taxes, supplies, contractors, and consultants. My question is, don't all those people leave paper trails and provide receipts?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/01/11/theresa-spence-will-continue-hunger-protest-spokesman-says/

[Maxwell78]

De-beers also has lent a helping hand to the reserve. 49 million. It hasn't been mentioned much. It is a long video a while back but has some good points. not sure how to copy the link

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/12/understanding-attawapiskat

[Pioneer2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDa8YDb3Ag4

[sewerrat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDa8YDb3Ag4

Unbelievable.

[Big Daddy Badger]

X2-this thread serves no useful purpose other than providing a forum for further native bashing.

Like it or not we are entitled to offer opinions about how our tax dollars are being spent and the facts do speak for themselves in this case and historically.

Bottom line is that politicians given free rein and that are immune from oversight screw their citizenry whether they are native band chief politicians or those on the other side of the fence.

The difference is that we don't have a huge pool of people to run to for more money when our politicians screw us.

If that safety net didn't exist and natives had nobody to turn to...to demand more money from... they would do some navel gazing and start demanding more accountability of their own.

As it stands it is too easy for them to fall for the line that the white guys are buggering them.
That line was largely true once and because of that it is now the default thinking that folks rely upon.


The fact is that we spend a hugely disproportionate amount of money trying to prop up reserves and we have been doing that for a long time.
Yet... no matter how much money we throw at it... the problem doesn't get any better... it gets worse.

Hmmm... one definition of insanity is .... doing the same thing over and over in the hope of a different result.

Obviously if more money isn't fixing a problem more cash is not the answer.

So... when Canada as a whole starts experiencing a bit of national financial hardship what do we do?
We take a look at the books and start demanding accountability of our politicians and the beaurocracy.
The end result usually turns out to be a balanced budget and minimal hardship shared by all of us.
What do businesses and cities do when they find themeselves in the red?
The same thing.
It works... usually.

Why is that concept too much for our native friends to grasp?
Why is it racism to expect them to look at solutions that are proven to work rather than simply hit dad up for some more coin?

I don't have a problem with the idle no more thing per se.
In fact, I think the omnibus bill was a load crap and that we all should be out there complaining about it.
That said.... the natives are protesting in the wrong place.
They should be marching on their band offices and making sure their house is in order and then demanding that Canada change the way their own are allowed to govern them.
The omnibus bill is something else and a seperate issue from their financial woes.
Second, given the relatively small native population...its a bold claim that they are idle no more when so many have the free time to hang out carrying signs. Obviously to the casual outside observer... its more of an idle and unemployeed still protest than idle no more.
Finally, threatening to crush the ecconomy... inconveniencing people who need to work and attacking the very people expected to pony up is nothing but foolish and counter-productive to their efforts.

Who in their right mind wants to give more money to a group of people that are actively trying to stop them from earning?

It would be a lot easier to sell if people in affected areas were not worried about paying their own bills because a bunch of idle, unemployed and thoughtless grumblers with no sense of self accountability were not stopping them from trying to earn a living for themselves.

[cds]

Charge her throw her ass in jail and give bread and water if she wants to be on a hunger strike. RCMP should go into the band arrest the band consell and the assessbly of first nations along with the govappoint a cheif and counisel.

[CanuckShooter]

My take is that she just does not want her people and the media to have any contact.

Exactly, the media wasn't going onto the reserve to find anything good to write about Spence. I imagine if the media went onto your premiers property digging up some dirt for a story, the same thing would happen. The media would get the boot.

[cowboyhunter]

I can't get over how white the chiefs look! Any other group or race in Canada would be removed and charged immedietly! I don't get why we put up with this. Take it all away and make us all equal. There are plenty of Canadians who actually struggle every day that don't have their hand out! The govt. has to stop feeding them or this will never go away!

[Winch101]

As quebec and the Indians start to sound and look the same...in

their retoric and actions ...we see that Canada is not the utopia

most of us imagine it is....Why are these people with little foresight

hell bent on financial ruin ....not to mention civil war .

Is it time for the great nation of Alberta to rise , cecede from this squallor that is Canada.... and recognise our destiny....

I bet it wouldnt be hard to get the ball rolling on this one , Just hold
a big rally , block the yellowhead and trans canada sell passports .
Start by expelling the RCMP and starting the APP.

The natves and the french are bad at math....30 million people
where 20% at least just got here from a place they were driven from...
came to paradise and now this ....unlikely allies for any movement that
wants to disassemble the Dominion.

Also the number of canadians here , who,s ancestors have been here
for over 100 years is the greater percentile .
The good thing about this whole travesty....Look at it , as an opportunity
to throw off the oppressive yoke of Political Correctness.

So whos up for a Free Alberta Rally....strike while the iron is luke warm I say.

[Kanonfodder]

Exactly, the media wasn't going onto the reserve to find anything good to write about Spence. I imagine if the media went onto your premiers property digging up some dirt for a story, the same thing would happen. The media would get the boot.

So you're defending her actions of intimidation and repression?

[CanuckShooter]

So you're defending her actions of intimidation and repression?

Not in the slightest....I'm just putting forward a 'why' and pointing out that what happened isn't dissimilar from what would happen in other situations that have nothing to do with Spence. Ie. don't government 'whips' tell their people what to say or not say? And even how to vote...how undemocratic.

[Kanonfodder]

Your comparison makes zero sense, want to know why, because of people crying racism for wanting to investigate corruption. If a mayor pulled this crap the RCMP and federal prosecutors would be all over that not to mention the media. As for your contention about government whips has nothing to do with bands inability to govern themselves without massive fraud and corruption

[CanuckShooter]

Your comparison makes zero sense, want to know why, because of people crying racism for wanting to investigate corruption. If a mayor pulled this crap the RCMP and federal prosecutors would be all over that not to mention the media. As for your contention about government whips has nothing to do with bands inability to govern themselves without massive fraud and corruption


You have to understand I'm talking about the news people getting ejected, not about the corruption that appears to be obvious.

[Lornce]

Bite the hand that feeds you

1: Turn on someone that has supported you.
2: Turn against a benefactor, a friend or a supporter.
3: Repay support with wrong.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you. You may need that hand one day.

[ken1989]

If there ever was an argument in favor of treating First Nations people like the rest of society this may be it!


http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid868989705001?bckey=AQ~~%2cAAAAybGjzqk~%2c6NfT c6c241GVQxOh-GBHNHu5Cuhlf-y9&bctid=1741805410001

[covey ridge]

If there ever was an argument in favor of treating First Nations people like the rest of society this may be it!


http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid868989705001?bckey=AQ~~%2cAAAAybGjzqk~%2c6NfT c6c241GVQxOh-GBHNHu5Cuhlf-y9&bctid=1741805410001




WOW!!

First Nations should be treated like the rest of society.

If even part of what Ezra says is true, this is an argument for intervention on behalf of the First Nation people and the investigation and prosecution of those leaders who are in breach of trust.

I think that First Nations should be allowed the right to protest and peaceful demonstration in public places. BUT protestors should never be allowed to impede traffic on any lawful right of way in Canada, EVER!

[Dacotensis]

WOW!!

BUT protestors should never be allowed to impede traffic on any lawful right of way in Canada, EVER!


From what I have read from some of the tid bits of treaties posted on AO, the FN are not allowed to. IT was part of the treaties they agreed to.

Also, the way I read those parts, If the gov wants to punch a rail line or a power line or a pipeline through the country side, they can not interfere with those advancements as well.
What I see is "negotiating" for more more more.