pine coulee walleye what you guys think?

[Fishingaddict]

ok so i was jut thinking one of these years they must be planning to allow walleye to be kept i myself believe they should because of a few reasons 1 it might allow us non boat anglers to catch more pike off the dock not just the odd one and i know that its a great fishery to keep the young and new anglers occupied but if we were to say allow a few walleye to be kept for a few seasons then after 1-3 seasons of that we could close it off till the population comes back but to me this is only one angler view so what do you fellow anglers think:)
FA:)

[1bigboomstick]

I like the idea, but I think that you might be surprised at how fast the walleye population would get hammered if you could keep from this lake. Even having a few days a year where each angler could keep one, would be cool. They could advertise these specific days the same way that they do the free fishing days.

[Optics]

Pine Coulee is a tough place for anything but slew sharks to get a foothold. We need a few more years to get the habitat established before the fishery gets "opened". Don't forget, there are guys who keep fish regardless of the circumstance.

[Fishingaddict]

I like the idea, but I think that you might be surprised at how fast the walleye population would get hammered if you could keep from this lake. Even having a few days a year where each angler could keep one, would be cool. They could advertise these specific days the same way that they do the free fishing days.
i like this idea

[Fishingaddict]

Don't forget, there are guys who keep fish regardless of the circumstance. but i also agree with this

[BeeGuy]

look at how the burbot are exploited in that lake and then ask how long it would take for the walleye to disappear.

This is a very young water body.

Lets think of managing the fishery on a time scale of decades, not seasons.

[Optics]

Lets think of managing the fishery on a time scale of decades, not seasons.

Could not agree more - brilliant observation IMHO.

[kevinhits]

look at how the burbot are exploited in that lake and then ask how long it would take for the walleye to disappear.

This is a very young water body.

Lets think of managing the fishery on a time scale of decades, not seasons.

Wow...Just discussing this today how the Burbs are getting depleted in PCR..

Sorry to say IMHO the limit should be dropped to 3....

[BeeGuy]

Wow...Just discussing this today how the Burbs are getting depleted in PCR..

Sorry to say IMHO the limit should be dropped to 3....

1 over 24" would be fine with me

[kevinhits]

1 over 24" would be fine with me

I agree, based on the huge concentration on burbs now....Years back burbs were seldom sought after....so not a huge issue...But now, old and new anglers are peeking there curiousities about these UGLY, UGLY fish..LOL

[MtnGiant]

I agree, based on the huge concentration on burbs now....Years back burbs were seldom sought after....so not a huge issue...But now, old and new anglers are peeking there curiousities about these UGLY, UGLY fish..LOL

Phew...finally someone called em ugly....I've been holding my breath on dat one

[DiabeticKripple]

WRONG....it does not take decades.
U said u have a genetics degree....doesnt seem like it to me.

Bring on the attacks...I'm waiting

he is not saying it takes decades. reading must not be your strong point

[kevinhits]

Phew...finally someone called em ugly....I've been holding my breath on dat one

Bahahhahha...Gotta scare the princess's away from fishing for those UGLY, slimy, snaky fish.....:bad_boys_20:

Oh yeah....Did I mention my last burb wrapped his body around my arm...Felt so GOOOOOODDDDD.....HAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAH....

[huntsfurfish]

WRONG....it does not take decades.
U said u have a genetics degree....doesnt seem like it to me.

Bring on the attacks...I'm waiting

Beeguy is correct, this reservoir is a very young body of water. Its not yet stabilized. Most fisherpeople on here are very impatient, fishing will improve.

[Gust]

Not that there are any burbs on the forum, except in the figurative sensr, I think burbot are gorgeous and cool.

[BeeGuy]

I think burbot are gorgeous and cool.

me too

They are like giant salamanders and at least 2x smarter than trout

[MtnGiant]

me too

They are like giant salamanders and at least 2x smarter than trout

Do u think a bottom feader is smarter than.....
And are you discussing the intelligence of a fish.....hahahahahahaha
Now thats funny comic relief right there
And ya.....thats my input to this convo boyz

[Lady White]

Phew...finally someone called em ugly....I've been holding my breath on dat one

They are gross. I catch one and just about cry if I have to touch the slimmy thing.

[Wes_G]

I like the idea, but I think that you might be surprised at how fast the walleye population would get hammered if you could keep from this lake. Even having a few days a year where each angler could keep one, would be cool. They could advertise these specific days the same way that they do the free fishing days.

I would go out there just to witness the hundreds if not thousands of people that would be there those couple days becasue they could keep a couple easily caught walleyes... Opening that lake to a harvest is a bad idea, it would be fished out in no time.

[BeeGuy]

I would go out there just to witness the hundreds if not thousands of people that would be there those couple days becasue they could keep a couple easily caught walleyes... Opening that lake to a harvest is a bad idea, it would be fished out in no time.

You could probably run a bus charter down there from Calgary until the last one was caught.

[fish gunner]

Such an e net newb am I . Never even thought one could survive a good smack from a mod and the giant hammer. Wonders never cease. Well I never :) can I have a rock now.

[BeeGuy]

I wanna rock too


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[TROLLER]

I really don't see where everyone thinks the burbot are being exploited at PCR

During the week there is little if any fisherman and on the weekend you might find 15 tents set up.:snapoutofit:

Big deal. It is a very large lake and the fish are not just around the boat dock or bridge where 90% seem to set up.

Walleye is different, it needs to be given many years, even Crawling Valley still does not allow harvest of walley.

[mapleleafman3]

They need to put some forage feed in for the eyes before they allow you to keep any. Eyes can only get so big on bugs.

[jrs]

I really don't see where everyone thinks the burbot are being exploited at PCR

During the week there is little if any fisherman and on the weekend you might find 15 tents set up.:snapoutofit:

Big deal. It is a very large lake and the fish are not just around the boat dock or bridge where 90% seem to set up.

Walleye is different, it needs to be given many years, even Crawling Valley still does not allow harvest of walley.

If you can't see it you're pretty blind. Likely the busiest non-put and take in southern Alberta. When the fish stack up to spawn and you can keep 10 it does diminish the lake wide population. For the record, well over 50 trucks out last time i drove by. Its managed only for walleye, everything else is highly exploited.

[plinker]

Instant can of worms if they opened it up to allowing people to keep some. There is no art to fishing in PCR. Grab a rod, put some bait on, throw in lake, catch walleye instantly because they are so hungry. Repeat several thousand times and presto you have an empty swimming hole instead of a fishery. My thoughts only but IMO they really screwed up on that lake by not introducing a bait species for the walleye to eat. The pike are just stupid big after the short period of time that the lake has been in existance but thats because they dine on undersized walleye daily.:fighting0030:

[jrs]

Instant can of worms if they opened it up to allowing people to keep some. There is no art to fishing in PCR. Grab a rod, put some bait on, throw in lake, catch walleye instantly because they are so hungry. Repeat several thousand times and presto you have an empty swimming hole instead of a fishery. My thoughts only but IMO they really screwed up on that lake by not introducing a bait species for the walleye to eat. The pike are just stupid big after the short period of time that the lake has been in existance but thats because they dine on undersized walleye daily.:fighting0030:

It does have forage (shiners, chub, suckers), it was simply stocked with walleye too soon for the forage base to really build up. Perch or something similar would be really difficult to establish now (too many walleye) but would have potential to help. The only way perch are getting there is via the bucket brigade though, very little interest in the government having another species to manage.

[Pikehunter13]

Burbot reach sexual maturity between 4 and 7 years of age.

Lets limit the burbot ASAP

[cube]

"very little interest in the government having another species to manage."

This is so true, just trout and walleye seem to count in this province. As a matter of fact if you look up the minutes from the last "Alberta Fisheries Management Round Table meeting" from just a couple of months ago Walleye are mentioned 14 times, trout nine times, pike once, whitefish once, perch zero.

Sure appears to be walleye and trout biased management to me.

[DiabeticKripple]

This is so true, just trout and walleye seem to count in this province. As a matter of fact if you look up the minutes from the last "Alberta Fisheries Management Round Table meeting" from just a couple of months ago Walleye are mentioned 14 times, trout nine times, pike once, whitefish once, perch zero.

Sure appears to be walleye and trout biased management to me.

What do you think almost everyone fishes for in this province?

Whitefish and perch fisherman are the minority. They only get fished heavily in the winter

[cube]

What do you think almost everyone fishes for in this province?

Whitefish and perch fisherman are the minority. They only get fished heavily in the winter

Is that because the only thing left in those lakes, that people can be reasonably assured of catching, is walleye. I now fish for Walleye because that's about all that's left.

[Mutter87]

Dropping a truck load of perch in PCR in the spring and fall would not be a bad idea. I do think the Burbs at PCR are definatly over fished. Limits need to be lowered, 1 over "24 and 2 under is plenty.

Looking at the way burbs are fished is a great model for why we can never and should never allow any sort of non tag harvest on Walleye.

[Fishingaddict]

Dropping a truck load of perch in PCR in the spring and fall would not be a bad idea. I do think the Burbs at PCR are definatly over fished. Limits need to be lowered, 1 over "24 and 2 under is plenty.

Looking at the way burbs are fished is a great model for why we can never and should never allow any sort of non tag harvest on Walleye.
this is a great point what if there could be draws like for pigeon or newell?

[Mutter87]

this is a great point what if there could be draws like for pigeon or newell?

There probably will be in a couple years. Mind you, The Mercury levels there still are a bit high, So they won't issue any tags until the levels are near non existent.

[Canadian kid]

I have to agree with one thing mentioned in this forum. The burbot here are hugely exploited, I live very close to PCR and am out a lot during the winter. There is very rarely less than 50 trucks at the lake, in fact on weekends Ive seen 50+ fisherman in several spots on the lake. And as a few leave a few more arrive, I have watched large groups of people keep every burbot they catch including ones ten inches or less (apparently they are good to can or something) but if your taking every little burb you catch from tiny to huge, how will there not be a future problem? I strongly think that there should be a catch limit and size limit put in to place here, its the only way I see there being burbot here in the near or far future. Also have to agree with the idea of not allowing walleye to be kept any time soon, the lake is not ready for it yet and it would be a disaster. Just my opinion.

[BeeGuy]

There probably will be in a couple years. Mind you, The Mercury levels there still are a bit high, So they won't issue any tags until the levels are near non existent.

What do you base this on?

What makes you think the levels will ever be non-existent for this lake or any other?

Have you read the Hg testing report?

[huntsfurfish]

There probably will be in a couple years. Mind you, The Mercury levels there still are a bit high, So they won't issue any tags until the levels are near non existent.

Mercury doesnt just go away:)

[Wes_G]

I have watched large groups of people keep every burbot they catch including ones ten inches or less (apparently they are good to can or something) but if your taking every little burb you catch from tiny to huge, how will there not be a future problem?

This is the problem with every lake only change the word burbot to whatever species is in the lake. People dont seem to realize that its takes many years for a fish to reach maturity and only 15 seconds to pull it out of a hole and kill it for dinner.

Sensible limits need to be put in place no matter what the lake is. Sure some lakes are better then others for a specific species. View this thread for that conversation ( http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=166359 )Why try to change a lake to make it great for every type of fishing? why not just try to enhance whats already there?

[Gust]

Do u think a bottom feader is smarter than.....
And are you discussing the intelligence of a fish.....hahahahahahaha
Now thats funny comic relief right there
And ya.....thats my input to this convo boyz

Why do you think burbs are bottom feeders,, any fish will pick food off the bottom, but burbs do like active bait. The moment you deem any species ugly is an anthropomorphisation and not beneficial to conservation of any species.

Early brits found bull trout to not be worthy of some standard they felt. And, where are we now with bulls?