MirroCraft Boats!

[edsonfisherman]

Well went to the Boat&sportsman show and looked at boats as the wife hinted she might not have a problem with me replacing my oldone. The best deals I could see were on the MirroCraft boats. I was wondering, if anyone owns a MirroCraft boat or knows someone that does and what they think of them? I was looking at the MirroCraft Holiday 1628 with a 60hp mercury, as it is a multiuse boat that would cover fishing and tubing/cruising with the family and friends.

[EZM]

Have you looked at the Lund 1625 XL Fury - the packages are about $14,000.

I'd suggest that would be a premium quality choice in this size and relative price range.

[edsonfisherman]

Have you looked at the Lund 1625 XL Fury - the packages are about $14,000.

I'd suggest that would be a premium quality choice in this size and relative price range.

Sorry but I think that price is wrong, all the Lund 1625 XL Fury, that I could find listed in Alberta were in the $22,000 CND price range, the $14,000 is the USD price, unless you know a dealer in the Edmonton area that sells them for the price you listed. $22,000 is more than I wanted to spend, while $14,000 is more in my price range and what they quoted me at the show for the MarroCraft.

[Nova]

Kevin's Marine was just shy of $19k on the 1625 Fury XL Sport (60hp fully equipped), and from what I gather they tend to be quite competitive price wise.

[edsonfisherman]

Sorry looking for a place in the Edmonton area, don't feel like driving to Kevin's Marine in Saskatchewan for a boat.

[huntin'fool]

Go south!! Make a road trip with the wifey!
think about it this way - $14,000 plus GST at Border - $14,700. Plus import fee ~$200.
Base price under $15,000. If you buy it in Washington or Oregon, you pay no state tax.
Factor in your trip down there. 2 nights in a fancy hotel, meals, fuel, another $1,000 - $1,500 (you could do it for way cheaper without the wife).

So you're looking at $16,000 ish.
Still a big savings when looking at Alberta price of $22,000.

I've imported boats from down south more than once. Piece of CAKE!!

[Mutter87]

Sorry looking for a place in the Edmonton area, don't feel like driving to Kevin's Marine in Saskatchewan for a boat.

Its not "a boat", its a Lund. You'd be spending a couple grand more for essentially the best boat you could get, a very reputable company. And the resale value would be there. And if the boat you are looking at is $14000 ish here in Alberta, what is the cost in Saskatchewan?

The Mirrocraft is a nice looking rig.

[Nova]

Sorry looking for a place in the Edmonton area, don't feel like driving to Kevin's Marine in Saskatchewan for a boat.

Sorry, I wasn't pointing it out as an option but more so validating your point about the higher cost even at a place with good pricing.

[linemanpete]

Go south!! Make a road trip with the wifey!
think about it this way - $14,000 plus GST at Border - $14,700. Plus import fee ~$200.
Base price under $15,000. If you buy it in Washington or Oregon, you pay no state tax.
Factor in your trip down there. 2 nights in a fancy hotel, meals, fuel, another $1,000 - $1,500 (you could do it for way cheaper without the wife).

So you're looking at $16,000 ish.
Still a big savings when looking at Alberta price of $22,000.

I've imported boats from down south more than once. Piece of CAKE!!

What is the warranty like after import?

[EZM]

Go south!! Make a road trip with the wifey!
think about it this way - $14,000 plus GST at Border - $14,700. Plus import fee ~$200.
Base price under $15,000. If you buy it in Washington or Oregon, you pay no state tax.
Factor in your trip down there. 2 nights in a fancy hotel, meals, fuel, another $1,000 - $1,500 (you could do it for way cheaper without the wife).

So you're looking at $16,000 ish.
Still a big savings when looking at Alberta price of $22,000.

I've imported boats from down south more than once. Piece of CAKE!!

I think you are correct, if you want to go through that - but I bet you would be surprised what dealers will do on discounts if you play correctly with them.

In January, I purchased my boat on par with US prices. Exchange has moved up since then, bit I'd imagine you could get one for a lot less than their initial quote.

Some quotes, like the silly crooks who run a Lund dealership south of Calgary quoted me a final price $18,000 higher than what I ended up paying for up here with the dealer I ended up awarding my business to. The specification for the boat, model, motor and options were IDENTICAL.

5 dealers participated. Initial Prices Ranged from $59,000 to $48,000. Final submissions, after several rounds of negotiation, ended up with me upgrading to a Honda engine (add $2000) and paying in the high 30's for my boat.

Keep in mind this is on a ~$40,000 boat. The amount of savings, of course, will be proportionate to the MSRP price for your model.

Based on this alone, you might be pretty close to where you need to be.

[bigshu]

Go south!! Make a road trip with the wifey!
think about it this way - $14,000 plus GST at Border - $14,700. Plus import fee ~$200.
Base price under $15,000. If you buy it in Washington or Oregon, you pay no state tax.
Factor in your trip down there. 2 nights in a fancy hotel, meals, fuel, another $1,000 - $1,500 (you could do it for way cheaper without the wife).

So you're looking at $16,000 ish.
Still a big savings when looking at Alberta price of $22,000.

I've imported boats from down south more than once. Piece of CAKE!!

Right on bro, just imported a boat yesterday, had it brought up from a dealer in Vegas to Shelby using U-ship for $1000. Spent about 20 min. at the border, got some cheap booze, paid the duty. We were in Montana for just over an hour. Easy.

[Mutter87]

Right on bro, just imported a boat yesterday, had it brought up from a dealer in Vegas to Shelby using U-ship for $1000. Spent about 20 min. at the border, got some cheap booze, paid the duty. We were in Montana for just over an hour. Easy.

You bought the boat and the driver picked it up at the dealer for you then brought it to Montana?

What's your warranty like?

[bigshu]

The boat was used from a dealer.

[edsonfisherman]

While you all make good points, I would rather get a boat from a dealer in Edmonton or surrounding area. I have still been looking at the Mirrocraft, but also the Crestliner has also caught my eye. The Lunds are a really nice boats but are way more than I want to spend, and going into the states for a better deal is more than I want to do. Can anyone recommend a dealer for eather of these two makes of boats?, and if you have experience with them what did you like/not like about them?

[BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES]

While you all make good points, I would rather get a boat from a dealer in Edmonton or surrounding area. I have still been looking at the Mirrocraft, but also the Crestliner has also caught my eye. The Lunds are a really nice boats but are way more than I want to spend, and going into the states for a better deal is more than I want to do. Can anyone recommend a dealer for eather of these two makes of boats?, and if you have experience with them what did you like/not like about them?

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[Swath]

Free Spirit Marine in Edmonton for the Crestliner. Talk to Thane. He is a great guy. I don't know where you would buy a mirrocraft though. If you are considering the Crestliner you should maybe throw Alumacraft into the mix as well. They are also well crafted boats IMO.

[edsonfisherman]

Free Spirit Marine in Edmonton for the Crestliner. Talk to Thane. He is a great guy. I don't know where you would buy a mirrocraft though. If you are considering the Crestliner you should maybe throw Alumacraft into the mix as well. They are also well crafted boats IMO.

There are 2 MirroCraft dealers in Edmonton Marine Maddness and Europa Canopy and Marine Ltd. I will also look at Alumacraft.

[ptemomo]

I just bought a Crestliner at the boat show from Thane. He was awesome to deal with and very good price compared to the website msrp. I was looking at the Alumacraft as well. They seem really well built, but on the model I was looking at (dominator) the live well were way too small.

[Swath]

Yeah I saw that too. If I recall correctly, you need the navigator to get a decent live well. It's huge too if memory serves right.

[edsonfisherman]

I just bought a Crestliner at the boat show from Thane. He was awesome to deal with and very good price compared to the website msrp. I was looking at the Alumacraft as well. They seem really well built, but on the model I was looking at (dominator) the live well were way too small.

What was the pricing like on the Crestliners?, also Alumacraft if anyone knows? I am looking to replace my 16.5' (1970) Glastron swinger, as it is a fiberglass boat and I wanted a aluminum boat around the same size that wasent going to break the bank.

[Swath]

A well stocked 16.5 footer is gonna run you around $22-24k with a 115hp 2stroke.

I just priced the Crestliner 1650 Superhawk witha 115 merc, galv trailer with spare, 2 extra seats, stereo, tilt steering with hydraulic and a full standup top and it came in at $23,000 from Free Spirit.

[EZM]

Check this out before you regret your decision ..... yes ......you might pay a little more for a far superior boat .....

http://www.lundboats.com/boats/2013-aluminum/fury-xl

The US prices are 5% lower based on exchange - I bet getting 10%-15% off would not be a stretch ....

[huntsfurfish]

1600 Fish Hawk rated up to 75 hp. All of the 1625 Fury but Cliner with more Std features. High quality boat and less expensive:).

Then you would have a superior boat.:sHa_shakeshout::)

PS hull is thicker on Cliner between these 2 boats:) And they look gooood.

[crf250xtom]

there are 2 mirrocraft dealers in edmonton marine maddness and europa canopy and marine ltd. I will also look at alumacraft.

do not go to marine maddness if you want a good BOAT, i repeat do not go to marine maddness.

[schmedlap]

I have a smaller Mirrocraft - 14' with some customization for our needs. I bought it all new, and since I don't use it a lot of days each year, it didn't make sense to spend the extra (30-40%? at the time) for a Lund/Princecraft/Alumacraft. Also, I needed everything short enough to store in my garage. And we like to go to some pretty remote places with no "fancy" boat launch set-ups, so it is small enough to "wrestle" into the water with just 3-4 people (sometimes we have had to "take it all apart and reassemble" as to the heavy parts to get it in and out). It is fine, but quality-wise, frankly, it is "no Lund".
If I was going to use the boat for "big water", or more than 15-20 days a year, or I was concerned about resale value (if you might trade up or down in a few years), I would spend the extra on a Lund or equivalent.

[EZM]

1600 Fish Hawk rated up to 75 hp. All of the 1625 Fury but Cliner with more Std features. High quality boat and less expensive:).

Then you would have a superior boat.:sHa_shakeshout::)

PS hull is thicker on Cliner between these 2 boats:) And they look gooood.

Good boat for sure but you might be comparing apples to oranges

1) Fish-hawk 1600 does not come as a walk thru

2) Prices quoted for the 1600 are based on 40hp

Fish-hawk 1650 with walk thru. with a 60 hp is over $17,000

This may not be a fair comparison .....

Besides a 2075 Pro V with a 225 Verado is better than a fish hawk .....:)

Don't get me wrong - Crestliners are great boats - they are definitely the runners up .........:)

The rebel with a double plated bottom (which is thicker than the fish-hawk) is a better comparison - to be fair to the OP.

[huntsfurfish]

Good boat for sure but you might be comparing apples to oranges

1) Fish-hawk 1600 does not come as a walk thru

2) Prices quoted for the 1600 are based on 40hp

Fish-hawk 1650 with walk thru. with a 60 hp is over $17,000

This may not be a fair comparison .....

Besides a 2075 Pro V with a 225 Verado is better than a fish hawk .....:)

Don't get me wrong - Crestliners are great boats - they are definitely the runners up .........:)

The rebel with a double plated bottom (which is thicker than the fish-hawk) is a better comparison - to be fair to the OP.

Only because of the 225 Verado:)lol

[67ZL1]

Just to add my two cents, I was pricing out a1825 Pro Guide with a 90 Merc - 9000.00 cheaper in Sask than my local dealer! I ended up buying a 1875 Pro V for 7000.00 less than buying locally. You need to shop around, I did and now I can rig my new unit up with all the goodies one could ever want with the money I saved.

[npauls]

Check this out before you regret your decision ..... yes ......you might pay a little more for a far superior boat .....

http://www.lundboats.com/boats/2013-aluminum/fury-xl

The US prices are 5% lower based on exchange - I bet getting 10%-15% off would not be a stretch ....

Just because a boat has the name LUND on it does not make it a more superior boat.

There is plenty of brands that are at the same level as a Lund.

You are pushing Lunds so hard I would think you were a salesman.

[EZM]

Just because a boat has the name LUND on it does not make it a more superior boat.

There is plenty of brands that are at the same level as a Lund.

You are pushing Lunds so hard I would think you were a salesman.

I am no Lund saleman - lol.

I have zero to gain here - lol.

Not sure why you are raging here and continue to troll my post and repeated try to incite a reaction.

I am trying to help out the OP with an honest sincere opinion.

If you don't think a Lund is a far superior boat to a Mirrocraft just say so - I'd like to see you put that one in writing ......

I think, once your blindness from your rage subsides, you will see I mentioned on many occasions, that there are many premium quality brands out there.

Maybe just scroll up a little ......lol

Take a deep breath ......it will all be OK soon ......lol

........:snapoutofit:

[npauls]

I am no Lund saleman - lol.

I have zero to gain here - lol.

Not sure why you are raging here and continue to troll my post and repeated try to incite a reaction.

I am trying to help out the OP with an honest sincere opinion.

If you don't think a Lund is a far superior boat to a Mirrocraft just say so - I'd like to see you put that one in writing ......

I think, once your blindness from your rage subsides, you will see I mentioned on many occasions, that there are many premium quality brands out there.

Maybe just scroll up a little ......lol

Take a deep breath ......it will all be OK soon ......lol

........:snapoutofit:

:sHa_sarcasticlol:


No rage here.

I am just simply pointing out that every boat post on here has you pointing out how much better Lunds are then any other boat available.

Alumacraft and Crestliner were mentioned which are on the same level as a Lund and plenty of people like them more then a Lund.

That was my whole point to the post.

Just because you own a new Lund doesn't mean it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Just because you think so doesn't mean you have to push it like a salesman does to someone that is open minded about looking at all brands.

[Mutter87]

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No rage here.

I am just simply pointing out that every boat post on here has you pointing out how much better Lunds are then any other boat available.

Alumacraft and Crestliner were mentioned which are on the same level as a Lund and plenty of people like them more then a Lund.

That was my whole point to the post.

Just because you own a new Lund doesn't mean it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Just because you think so doesn't mean you have to push it like a salesman does to someone that is open minded about looking at all brands.

Let's be honest here, Lunds are the best boat you can get. You want a top of the line ATV? Get a Can-Am. You want a top of the line boat? Get a Lund. There is no substitute or equal to a Lund.

[npauls]

Let's be honest here, Lunds are the best boat you can get. You want a top of the line ATV? Get a Can-Am. You want a top of the line boat? Get a Lund. There is no substitute or equal to a Lund.

See that is where you are wrong.

I would put any equal model of Crestliner or Alumacraft up against a Lund and they would almost always perform just as good or better.

[EZM]

See that is where you are wrong.

I would put any equal model of Crestliner or Alumacraft up against a Lund and they would almost always perform just as good or better.

I agree Crestliner and Alumacraft Boats are also premium brands of boats - I have been consistent in offering this opinion in many of my posts. Please do a search and look for yourself......

Based on a combination of specification, features, customer satisfaction, personal experience and engineering - I will suggest that Lunds would receive, in general, more top marks in each selective category than any other brand out there.

I have done exhaustive research on many brands of boats recently which strongly underpins my perspective.

So am I saying the Lunds are the very best ????? it really depends at which price point you are looking at is the best answer I can give you. If I'm pressed for a affirmative yes or no ....... the answer is yes - they are the very best mass produced boat on the market.

The difference between us (you and me) is this ........ I am offering the OP and fellow member my sincere opinion on this issue - you, on the other hand are just trolling and stirring the pot for no reason ......

Can you add value to this discussion and provide an opinion?

[EZM]

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No rage here.

I am just simply pointing out that every boat post on here has you pointing out how much better Lunds are then any other boat available.

Alumacraft and Crestliner were mentioned which are on the same level as a Lund and plenty of people like them more then a Lund.

That was my whole point to the post.

Just because you own a new Lund doesn't mean it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Just because you think so doesn't mean you have to push it like a salesman does to someone that is open minded about looking at all brands.

I did extensive research prior to selecting my boat. I looked at Crestliners, Kingfisher and AlumaCraft boats in various price ranges and configurations.

I also spent some time looking at many other brands out there but was quickly unimpressed when comparing the premium brands to the mid-market boats.

You might be surprised to note - prior to my research I had Kingfisher and Crestliner "picked out" as my favorites...... so, I would suggest that my mind is quite open.

If you are unhappy about my perspective ...... then please offer some advice of your own other than general comments and silly accusations.

[npauls]

I did extensive research prior to selecting my boat. I looked at Crestliners, Kingfisher and AlumaCraft boats in various price ranges and configurations.

I also spent some time looking at many other brands out there but was quickly unimpressed when comparing the premium brands to the mid-market boats.

You might be surprised to note - prior to my research I had Kingfisher and Crestliner "picked out" as my favorites...... so, I would suggest that my mind is quite open.

If you are unhappy about my perspective ...... then please offer some advice of your own other than general comments and silly accusations.

Please show me where I have accused you of anything? I simply pointed out what I noticed in the boat threads recently.

I have given my advice and that is to look at a bunch of boats and don't follow the hype of a name.

If you were to compare one of the other big name top end boats to the same model comparison in a Lund the other brand is going to be quite a bit cheaper which means you can't compare pricing with similar models.

To get the same price point Lund as a similar model in another premium brand you would have to drop down a model or 2 to compare pricing wise.

I am not saying Lunds are a bad boat but they are over priced and have way to much hype around them that makes them seem better then they really are.

[EZM]

Please show me where I have accused you of anything? I simply pointed out what I noticed in the boat threads recently.

I have given my advice and that is to look at a bunch of boats and don't follow the hype of a name.

If you were to compare one of the other big name top end boats to the same model comparison in a Lund the other brand is going to be quite a bit cheaper which means you can't compare pricing with similar models.

To get the same price point Lund as a similar model in another premium brand you would have to drop down a model or 2 to compare pricing wise.

I am not saying Lunds are a bad boat but they are over priced and have way to much hype around them that makes them seem better then they really are.

Yup ..... lol ..... I figured as much....... case in point.

[Winch101]

Usually I have stir stick out,stirring like a mad shacker .

I have owned 11 Lunds....2crestliners ....smoker craft ...

Prince craft ....Naden....alumarine.

Firstly I don't think Lunds are over priced if you don't buy them in

Alberta...perhaps there is a reasonable dealer here now...I bought the crest liner
From free spirit because I didn't think Lund was worth 6k more .....but I didn't shop.

Like all manufactures Lund has models that are more fish able ....
Better appointed for certain kinds of angling.
Alumacraft the same , some models not so good but I have shopped them in Alberta and they are more than Lunds...

If you are a walleye guy and backtrolling shield structure than the IPS hull
Cannot be beat , stays put in the wind like you are anchored.....Crestl
Too buoyant ,ride too high....like fishin on a bobber in the wind .

Reservoir fisherman almost always windy ,using bow mount ....
You want that ass end to stay sorta stable ,IPS can't be beat

Lund driest ride ,best chime system,though sometimes a little
Under powered in certain models...The Impact
is not one of them .

If your going out with a boat load of kids and anchoring , the point is moot
Buy what you will ,you will only notice the difference when you go to sell.

Interestingly the best Alumacraft dealer I have found is Luke's Town
Service on the trans Canada in Elie Manitoba.

In the northern USA they will sell more boats this year than there are
In Alberta period . The bible is Walleye Central for info....

Sorry also I worked for Lund for a number of years.....no company
Caters to the angler more than Lund...

[Traps]

Losing warranty doesn't matter when buying south of the border. When you do the math and factor in what warranty really covers you could replace or fix anything and still be ahead. Its just a gimmick for sales people to scare dumb consumers into buying something for more than what it's worth.

[Penner]

FYI, Lund, Crestliner, and Princecraft are all made by the Brunswick Boat company.

[EZM]

FYI, Lund, Crestliner, and Princecraft are all made by the Brunswick Boat company.

Yes, but all 32 marine companies, owned by Brunswick, who produce boats, motors, boating parts continue to be run as completely independent organizations and business units.

They probably enjoy volume discounts from OEM parts and motor makers like Mercury, Perko, Allied, ShoreLand'r etc.... and probably purchase volumes of aluminum under one centralized and aggregated volume discount .... but that's where it ends.

All are run by a completely separate and independent management team, all are responsible for their P/L's, business plan, marketing strategy and engineering. They also operate independent manufacturing plants in different parts of the world. Their Supply Chain is the only real connection.

To suggest they are the "same" in any way beyond that probably isn't accurate.

Because they do not post segmented and independent financial statements as public information does not mean they are not run in that same fashion.

[Penner]

Yes, but all 32 marine companies, owned by Brunswick, who produce boats, motors, boating parts continue to be run as completely independent organizations and business units.

They probably enjoy volume discounts from OEM parts and motor makers like Mercury, Perko, Allied, ShoreLand'r etc.... and probably purchase volumes of aluminum under one centralized and aggregated volume discount .... but that's where it ends.

All are run by a completely separate and independent management team, all are responsible for their P/L's, business plan, marketing strategy and engineering. They also operate independent manufacturing plants in different parts of the world. Their Supply Chain is the only real connection.

To suggest they are the "same" in any way beyond that probably isn't accurate.

Because they do not post segmented and independent financial statements as public information does not mean they are not run in that same fashion.

Nobody saying they are the same. But there are more and more similarities starting to work its way into each of the boats now being under the same family umbrella for several years. The gap is not as big as it might have been back in the day.

So hows that profit sharing working out for you? :thinking-006:

[EZM]

Nobody saying they are the same. But there are more and more similarities starting to work its way into each of the boats now being under the same family umbrella for several years. The gap is not as big as it might have been back in the day.

So hows that profit sharing working out for you? :thinking-006:

I have no shares in Brunswick ............ probably too many in the company I work for and they are treating me like a diaper .....lol.

[Penner]

I have no shares in Brunswick ............ probably too many in the company I work for and they are treating me like a diaper .....lol.

Ha ha ha I hear ya brother.