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1bluZebec
08-10-2013, 05:27 PM
Anyone know if there are places to rent a rod for bar fishing the Fraser? I didn't want to spend 150-250 for a cheap setup that I will probably only use once or twice and I'm needing one for the wife too. I was looking at the 12' ugly stick but don't know what is best but cheapest route for a reel and then I was wondering if maybe someone rents rods. Any help would be very appreciated thanks.:confused0024:

fish gunner
08-10-2013, 05:53 PM
Anyone know if there are places to rent a rod for bar fishing the Fraser? I didn't want to spend 150-250 for a cheap setup that I will probably only use once or twice and I'm needing one for the wife too. I was looking at the 12' ugly stick but don't know what is best but cheapest route for a reel and then I was wondering if maybe someone rents rods. Any help would be very appreciated thanks.:confused0024:

Cant think of any rental stores near the Fraser however there are lots of pawn shops and second hand stores with lightly used quality gear. New line and your fishing.:)

Kurt505
08-10-2013, 06:10 PM
If you have a good rod and reel, the longer the better, 9ft or so just use it. If not maybe buy one, they're good for fishing the NSR anyway. Throw some good mono on and your set! A good rod and maybe a 4000 series spin cast real is all you need anyway, and you can use it for a lot of different kind of fishing. I made the mistake of buying a $110 combo in Agassiz once, threw it out before I made it back to Edmonton. Good luck fishing!

Riverbc
08-10-2013, 06:54 PM
depending on the current where you are fishing the Fraser, you may need up a rod that can cast up to 16 ounces of lead.

fish gunner
08-10-2013, 06:56 PM
If you have a good rod and reel, the longer the better, 9ft or so just use it. If not maybe buy one, they're good for fishing the NSR anyway. Throw some good mono on and your set! A good rod and maybe a 4000 series spin cast real is all you need anyway, and you can use it for a lot of different kind of fishing. I made the mistake of buying a $110 combo in Agassiz once, threw it out before I made it back to Edmonton. Good luck fishing!

Weird, shamanos salmon steelhead solstice combo . 99 $ at cabelas 4000srs reel on a 9' 1-2oz rod rated to 20lb test sounds perfect.

fish gunner
08-10-2013, 07:01 PM
depending on the current where you are fishing the Fraser, you may need up a rod that can cast up to 16 ounces of lead.

Please show us this rod. Lol do you use a shock leader.

Riverbc
08-10-2013, 07:24 PM
It's a 10 1/2' Garcia Conolon fiberglass rod. It has a sliding reel seat, so it can be used with a level action reel or a single action. For bar fishing chinook and steelhead (back when we could target the Thompson steelies passing through) I'd used a Daiwa 175 mooching reel. Depending on the flow, I'd use 10-16 ounce pyramid weights. Early July the Fraser can still be coming down from freshet, and 16 ounces is required or your gear will drift down into the next person's set up, which won't make you very popular. By labour day 10 ounces should work just fine. Fishing off the back of a boat, you can go lighter.
For back up rods, I have a skookum Eagle Claw, and Ugly Stick...each have large capacity spinning reels on them. Island 22 bar and Bowman's were the popular spots.
No shock leaders needed.

http://imageshack.us/a/img405/4946/3p4y.jpg

Fritze
08-10-2013, 07:28 PM
Sorry for the ignorance but what the heck is bar fishing?

fish gunner
08-10-2013, 07:33 PM
It's a 10 1/2' Garcia Conolon fiberglass rod. It has a sliding reel seat, so it can be used with a level action reel or a single action. For bar fishing chinook and steelhead (back when we could target the Thompson steelies passing through) I'd used a Daiwa 175 mooching reel. Depending on the flow, I'd use 10-16 ounce pyramid weights. Early July the Fraser can still be coming down from freshet, and 16 ounces is required or your gear will drift down into the next person's set up, which won't make you very popular. By labour day 10 ounces should work just fine. Fishing off the back of a boat, you can go lighter.
For back up rods, I have a skookum Eagle Claw, and Ugly Stick...each have large capacity spinning reels on them. Island 22 bar and Bowman's were the popular spots.
No shock leaders needed.

Crazy, never used larger than six oz for any shore fishing . I can never recall some one casting a mooching reel but hey could happen . Look up down tide leads? the wires hold bottom till you realy put pressure on to turn the wire . And yes if your fishing a 16 oz lead you should be useing a shock leader.

Riverbc
08-10-2013, 07:49 PM
loosen up the drag and a mooching reel casts just fine. Just remember to tighten it up, when putting it back into rod holder. :D A friend of mine used a KP reel form South Africa. No drag on it ever.......he stuck a rag in the spokes when it was in the rod holder. He caught many springs with it.

http://www.mikesreelrepair.com/images/KP1.jpg


The 16 ounces of lead were needed when the bars were starting to appear after freshet. Current was crazy, but the springs were there.

Kurt505
08-10-2013, 09:36 PM
Sorry for the ignorance but what the heck is bar fishing?



It's fishing off of the rock bars in the river with 15-20oz weight, a little spreader bar and about a 3' lead comming off of it with a spin n glo on the end of it. Just cast out and sit back and wait for the action. There is usually about 50-100 people all around you unless you got a boat and can find a remote rock bar.

Riverbc
08-10-2013, 10:13 PM
Something like this.....helps to have a snooze bell on the rod as well. :D

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/12382783.jpg

http://flyguys.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/BarFishingRig1480x640.jpg

Kurt505
08-10-2013, 10:16 PM
Something like this.....helps to have a snooze bell on the rod as well. :D

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/12382783.jpg

http://flyguys.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/BarFishingRig1480x640.jpg

That's it!

britman101
08-10-2013, 11:27 PM
I would take some spinning rods along with you too, in the 7 -9 ft. range. It is a pink year for the Fraser River, and the big push of Pinks should start showing up in the next couple of weeks. Fun fish to catch, especially when you have to wait so long for a Spring to bite when bar fishing.

e40water12
08-11-2013, 08:13 AM
$50-$80 you could get awesome set for the fraser River. Even better deals from pawnshops and online kijiji. Ive fished the fraser River tons of times. When your going to fish for sockeye / chinook springs. Your gonna need a decent set up. Specially if you hook into a 25 lb spring his gone. Lots of fishing line is needed. a good reel is needed.

Good Luck.

waterninja
08-11-2013, 11:18 AM
depending on the current where you are fishing the Fraser, you may need up a rod that can cast up to 16 ounces of lead.
wow. i can't imagine useing a pound of lead as a weight. i've fished the buckly and the skeena when they were high and fast and the largest weight i ever had to use was a 5 oz. not saying your wrong (haven't fished the fraser) but a 1 lbs. weight sounds extreme.

waterninja
08-11-2013, 12:03 PM
zebec, if you look up "fishing with rod" on you tube he has a 4 part show about bar fishing on the fraser that i'm sure you would find very helpfull. it will also get your blood going to get out there.

Riverbc
08-11-2013, 06:04 PM
wow. i can't imagine useing a pound of lead as a weight. i've fished the buckly and the skeena when they were high and fast and the largest weight i ever had to use was a 5 oz. not saying your wrong (haven't fished the fraser) but a 1 lbs. weight sounds extreme.

I hear ya. I know the Bulkley and the Skeena rivers...I don't think people realize just how much power the Fraser has.

http://www.guidebc.com/articles/chinookfishingonfraser.asp

Equipment used for bar fishing consists of a medium to medium heavy rod, 10 to 12 ft with a line rating of 12-30 lbs capable of casting up to 20 oz of lead.

http://fishonbc.com/articles/fraser-river-bar-fishing/

This should be a heavy action rod capable of casting 14 to 18 ounces of lead and able to handle 30 to 60 pound test line.

http://www.riverfishingbc.com/article1.php

Rod: 11-12' two piece bar fishing style rod; main advantage of such long rod is its ability to launch an 18oz. piece of lead a long way.

1bluZebec
08-11-2013, 08:23 PM
Well I'll get the ugly stick and a level winding reel and some 60lb braid and 6-10" bar spreader with a few per made leaders of 50lb mono with some lucky spin n glows size 0 and 00 and some good 6/0- 8/0 octopus hooks and a few weights from 10-20 oz and I should be ready to go almost. Just hope to find the lucky spot lol. Hopefully all goes well I'm thinking after the salmon fishing in the fraser we can get out onto cultas and try our luck as well. Very pumped. Thanks for all the informative responses:)