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Jamie
11-20-2013, 06:09 PM
Ok, the title is a hair misleading. But the record weight was broke here a month ago, unfortunately it was caught in one of Calgarys private lakes.

But still, WHAT A HOG!
I personally saw the pics and this pig looks like a keeper Chinook Salmon.

I will continue to try and get permission to post the pics. What a treat to see a fish of that size.

Jamie

Kokanee9
11-20-2013, 06:18 PM
Looking forward to seeing it!

DiabeticKripple
11-20-2013, 06:30 PM
betcha lake bonavista

id love to get out and chase some monsters in bonavista or sundance

Moefoe
11-20-2013, 08:42 PM
Yeah a buddy of mine caught a pile of double digit rainbows out of Bonavista this year!!

Team Anzac
11-20-2013, 08:51 PM
Ok, the title is a hair misleading. But the record weight was broke here a month ago, unfortunately it was caught in one of Calgarys private lakes.

But still, WHAT A HOG!
I personally saw the pics and this pig looks like a keeper Chinook Salmon.

I will continue to try and get permission to post the pics. What a treat to see a fish of that size.

Jamie

There are 40 plus pounders in Definbaker lake. Google that s**t. World record Rainbows were taken out of there. Record was broken and rebroken by two brothers.

Jamie
11-20-2013, 08:54 PM
There are 40 plus pounders in Definbaker lake. Google that s**t. World record Rainbows were taken out of there. Record was broken and rebroken by two brothers.

Yeah, those are some pigs.

Jamie

Team Anzac
11-20-2013, 09:02 PM
Yeah, those are some pigs.

Jamie

Any idea if they are still in the lake, if they are they gotta be 50-60 lbs by now. It's been a few years since I've heard any thing about them.:)

Fishnafterwork
11-20-2013, 09:10 PM
There are 40 plus pounders in Definbaker lake. Google that s**t. World record Rainbows were taken out of there. Record was broken and rebroken by two brothers.

I wonder if the fishinggeeks ever get tired of reading posts like this :)
I wouldn't :)

Team Anzac
11-20-2013, 09:17 PM
F.A.W

I think not, I know the location is somewhat a secret where they were caught, but a little investigating might turn out to be fruitful. Imagine hooking onto a 50 plus pound rainbow through the ice. WOW:)

Fishnafterwork
11-20-2013, 09:22 PM
F.A.W

I think not, I know the location is somewhat a secret where they were caught, but a little investigating might turn out to be fruitful. Imagine hooking onto a 50 plus pound rainbow through the ice. WOW:)

The Man U speak of is on this forum and he goes by the name "fishinggeek"
And yes u are right he catches huge fish!
Can't imagine how many holes you'd need to drill to get a pig like that!
Oh and tell me how your investigation goes :)
You got about 1 million other people chasing the same thing :)
It's a big lake but I wish you all the best :)




Still awaiting pics!!!!!!

Team Anzac
11-20-2013, 09:29 PM
I've fished it before and yes it's huge. Wouldn't know where to start... Guess here is a good place. Stand by my friend.

Team Anzac
11-20-2013, 09:39 PM
Jamie

Do you know the approximent weight of Alberta record?.:)

AdverseCity
11-20-2013, 09:48 PM
Rainbow Trout 20 lbs 4 ozs Ron Solomon Maligne Lake 1980 (http://www.albertaoutdoorsmen.ca/record-book.html)

Faststeel
11-20-2013, 10:26 PM
I saw a mount of the world record brown trout that I believe was caught some place in Arkansas 30 plus pounds, it almost looked pre historic. FS

Team Anzac
11-20-2013, 10:31 PM
I saw a mount of the world record brown trout that I believe was caught some place in Arkansas 30 plus pounds, it almost looked pre historic. FS

Google Definbaker world record Rainbow trout same thing, they look fake they're so huge.:)

Speckle55
11-20-2013, 10:34 PM
here is Sean and Adams page
http://fishinggeeks.net/

I have the World Record Books for the two North American record keepers if anyone wants to know what any fish record is

I have 4 current WR line classes

here is some big brown trout pictures and the current record is over 42# for Brown trout
http://flyfishingtrout.org/new-world-record-brown-trout-from-new-zealand/
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=World+Reord+Brown+Trout&docid=4572526477246956&mid=CA46B1163D88785A2946CA46B1163D88785A2946&view=detail&FORM=VIRE2#view=detail&mid=CA46B1163D88785A2946CA46B1163D88785A2946

just pm me

David:)

ps I heard it was 10 oz bigger than the Alberta record that is on display at Jasper Park Lodge

BeeGuy
11-20-2013, 10:34 PM
Records don't come out of private lakes.

IGFA needs to get with the times and recognize that GMO fish that are bred for accelerated growth and no reproduction should not qualify either.

:scared0018:

Speckle55
11-20-2013, 10:38 PM
it does happen in nature too Triplods
just saying

David:)

Records don't come out of private lakes.

IGFA needs to get with the times and recognize that GMO fish that are bred for accelerated growth and no reproduction should not qualify either.

:scared0018:

BeeGuy
11-20-2013, 10:43 PM
it does happen in nature too Triplods
just saying

David:)

Triploidy does occur in nature, but unless you've heard of a lake spontaneously producing thousands of triploids which had been bred for accelerated growth, I do not see how these scenarios can be compared whatsoever.

Just my $0.05

Speckle55
11-20-2013, 10:56 PM
Agree:reading:

but there is that possibility in nature that gigantism can happen

David

Triploidy does occur in nature, but unless you've heard of a lake spontaneously producing thousands of triploids which had been bred for accelerated growth, I do not see how these scenarios can be compared whatsoever.

Just my $0.05

AppleJax
11-20-2013, 11:11 PM
Triploidy does occur in nature, but unless you've heard of a lake spontaneously producing thousands of triploids which had been bred for accelerated growth, I do not see how these scenarios can be compared whatsoever.

Just my $0.05

Would you have the same $0.05 opinion if the record was yours? Yes or No?

BeeGuy
11-20-2013, 11:12 PM
Agree:reading:

but there is that possibility in nature that gigantism can happen

David

exactly, it is this very small possibility that makes those fish really special.

how many natural triploids survive to adulthood in a natural setting?

1:10,000?
1:1,000,000?
1:10,000,000?

This in part is what makes them special.

It is sad to see truly spectacular specimens get eclipsed in the books by escaped GMO's.

IGFA themselves may not discriminate, but that does not speak to the fact that these animals are in no way comparable.

Jamie
11-20-2013, 11:12 PM
Rainbow Trout 20 lbs 4 ozs Ron Solomon Maligne Lake 1980 (http://www.albertaoutdoorsmen.ca/record-book.html)

And this new one is 10oz bigger. I couldn't imagine locking into a rainbow like that. This lake has produced large fish before, but not to this level.

Jamie

BeeGuy
11-20-2013, 11:25 PM
Would you have the same $0.05 opinion if the record was yours? Yes or No?

I think I was clear.

IGFA has some glaring issues wrt some species.

Their focus is salt water big game, and I doubt these issues will be dealt with.

Keep in mind also, that these livestock fish are commercial property before they escape.

Lets put it this way:

Your Elk farm raises giant elk for market. Your herd escapes through a broken fence.

Couple years down the road, Jed shoots a 600" elk in the vicinity of the elk farm.

Record or no?

Can of worms? Eternally...

AppleJax
11-20-2013, 11:36 PM
I think I was clear.

IGFA has some glaring issues wrt some species.

Their focus is salt water big game, and I doubt these issues will be dealt with.

Keep in mind also, that these livestock fish are commercial property before they escape.

Lets put it this way:

Your Elk farm raises giant elk for market. Your herd escapes through a broken fence.

Couple years down the road, Jed shoots a 600" elk in the vicinity of the elk farm.

Record or no?

Can of worms? Eternally...
Can of worms on an eternal record? Yup. Was the all tackle burbot a triploid? Coincidence? I don't think so. The geeks are amazing fishermen.

BeeGuy
11-20-2013, 11:51 PM
Can of worms on an eternal record? Yup. Was the all tackle burbot a triploid? Coincidence? I don't think so. The geeks are amazing fishermen.

No doubt they are cool fish. I'd be stoked to catch any of them.

Kyle
11-21-2013, 06:57 AM
I think I was clear.

IGFA has some glaring issues wrt some species.

Their focus is salt water big game, and I doubt these issues will be dealt with.

Keep in mind also, that these livestock fish are commercial property before they escape.

Lets put it this way:

Your Elk farm raises giant elk for market. Your herd escapes through a broken fence.

Couple years down the road, Jed shoots a 600" elk in the vicinity of the elk farm.

Record or no?

Can of worms? Eternally...

The difference is that the rainbows escaped at mostly 2-5 lbs. They were not released weighing 40+ lbs. They grew 95% of their weight/length in a natural environment.

Winch101
11-21-2013, 07:34 AM
When I lived in Bonavista....14yrs-ago.....I caught. 7 And 9 lb.Rsinbow
I took them to the head lake guy....He told me they had bought a hundred
Brood stock up to 14 lbs or so and put them in there ...If there is any still
Kicking around they would be jumbos ....

TROLLER
11-21-2013, 09:10 AM
Ok, the title is a hair misleading. But the record weight was broke here a month ago, unfortunately it was caught in one of Calgarys private lakes.

But still, WHAT A HOG!
I personally saw the pics and this pig looks like a keeper Chinook Salmon.

I will continue to try and get permission to post the pics. What a treat to see a fish of that size.

Jamie

HERITAGE POINTE FOR SURE. You can see the hogs swimming all over. Nothing to catch a 10- 15 Go with a friend and his son just to let the little guy hook into a hog. Always release them for another day.

Huge fish and for sure that is lake X No 30 pounders in Bonavista

fishman
11-21-2013, 11:47 AM
Any idea if they are still in the lake, if they are they gotta be 50-60 lbs by now. It's been a few years since I've heard any thing about them.:)



Those fish escaped from thier pen this spring will be 11 years so most of them have died, they still have the odd fish escape but from my undestanding a diffrent strain and not as big, the big fish ended up in the river below the dam

HOGSLAYER
11-21-2013, 02:06 PM
:sHa_shakeshout::sHa_shakeshout:Those fish escaped from thier pen this spring will be 11 years so most of them have died, they still have the odd fish escape but from my undestanding a diffrent strain and not as big, the big fish ended up in the river below the dam
Wot Woot Some body give this man a cigar:sHa_shakeshout:

pickrel pat
11-21-2013, 02:20 PM
The difference is that the rainbows escaped at mostly 2-5 lbs. They were not released weighing 40+ lbs. They grew 95% of their weight/length in a natural environment.

deifenbaker is a natural rainbow trout environment??????? hmmmm.

fishinggeek
11-21-2013, 03:48 PM
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TyreeUM
11-22-2013, 01:44 PM
It is sad to see truly spectacular specimens get eclipsed in the books by escaped GMO's.

IGFA themselves may not discriminate, but that does not speak to the fact that these animals are in no way comparable.

I love that you incorrectly applied the term GMO in your response, as you are always so quick to point out the errors in others whenever this term is incorrectly used on an AO thread.
How many all tackle world records recognized by the IGFA are sterile fish? I would imagine many if not most, which is why they are significantly larger than what would be considered norm for that species.
Additionally, how manipulated are rainbow trout genetics in general? Do you not think that 150 years of selective breeding has tainted any argument against the validity of these records? Should we only be accepting records from genetically pure natural strains? Should we only accept records if the fish is native to the watershed it was caught? If we negate hatchery triploids (not GMO), where does it end and how would argue against accepting anything but pure strain fish from their native, unaltered watersheds?

RayL42
11-22-2013, 02:05 PM
I love that you incorrectly applied the term GMO in your response, as you are always so quick to point out the errors in others whenever this term is incorrectly used on an AO thread.
How many all tackle world records recognized by the IGFA are sterile fish? I would imagine many if not most, which is why they are significantly larger than what would be considered norm for that species.
Additionally, how manipulated are rainbow trout genetics in general? Do you not think that 150 years of selective breeding has tainted any argument against the validity of these records? Should we only be accepting records from genetically pure natural strains? Should we only accept records if the fish is native to the watershed it was caught? If we negate hatchery triploids (not GMO), where does it end and how would argue against accepting anything but pure strain fish from their native, unaltered watersheds?

Why are Triploids not considered GMO?

as I understand the process through heat and pressure a third chromosome
is created.

LCCFisherman
11-22-2013, 02:07 PM
Triploids of any species shouldn't count IMO.. and the RNTR record definitely shouldn't count.

EZM
11-22-2013, 02:09 PM
Going to get a bag of popcorn ready to go in the microwave ............

There are sure to be some great arguments in both camps here.

I would offer, however, that most IGFA records are saltwater, and therefore, are probably not trips. I would also be surprised if more than a few of them were trips as well.

It would be interesting to me to have a distinction noted in the books - just for a point of reference, nothing more. I wouldn't be the guy discounting a record based on genetics - But ....I'd just like to see the comparative difference. To me, it almost like they are two different population groups really. It would be cool to see.

BeeGuy
11-22-2013, 04:05 PM
The term GMO is applied in many ways, however in its strict sense, it refers to the insertion of genes from one organism into another.

Actual GMO fish are in development, but do not have administrative approvals to go to market.

Dief fish are commercial cultivars and triploid. These fish were commercial property before they escaped, and although I do not know for certain, it is very likely that the company responsible did not have permits allowing the release of fish. Whether the release was accidental or not, the company was likely in violation of provincial legislation and operating conditions.

Back to my primary point, IGFA is behind the times.

If the Basspro tank spilt into Nose Creek, would those fish be elgible for records?

IGFA afaik does not have any temporal criteria in the rules to identify when illegally released commercial fish become legit contenders.

Fishfinder
11-22-2013, 05:27 PM
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Lol.


Ugh I went through all that n still no pic OP?

Tease!!!:)

Jamie
11-22-2013, 05:52 PM
Lol.


Ugh I went through all that n still no pic OP?

Tease!!!:)

I am getting heck for even mentioning it on here. Lololololo

I will get a pic, just need to keep at him.

I could show you a pic of a nice Salmon if that would help.

Jamie

TyreeUM
11-22-2013, 06:20 PM
The term GMO is applied in many ways, however in its strict sense, it refers to the insertion of genes from one organism into another.

Actual GMO fish are in development, but do not have administrative approvals to go to market.

Dief fish are commercial cultivars and triploid. These fish were commercial property before they escaped, and although I do not know for certain, it is very likely that the company responsible did not have permits allowing the release of fish. Whether the release was accidental or not, the company was likely in violation of provincial legislation and operating conditions.

Back to my primary point, IGFA is behind the times.

If the Basspro tank spilt into Nose Creek, would those fish be elgible for records?

IGFA afaik does not have any temporal criteria in the rules to identify when illegally released commercial fish become legit contenders.
Ok, so we have cleared the air that these fish are, in fact, not GMO fish.
Now, let me further defend these fish as legit records.
What is the difference between a hatchery released fish and a hatchery fish that was accidentally released? What is the difference between a hatchery triploid and a natural triploid? If only one fish escaped from the net pen, grew to 48 pounds, and was then caught by Sean, should it count then?
Comparing Sean's catch to realeasing aquarium fish that are already of significant size is a weak argument, as it was already stated these fish were roughly 2 to 5 pounds when they escaped.
I can go all night :)

BeeGuy
11-22-2013, 07:09 PM
Commercially raised agricultural animals have no place in the record books IMO.

What is the difference between them escaping at 2-5lbs, 5-10lbs, or 10-20lbs.

According to IGFA, there is no distinction made, which would make escaped basspro fish equally legit. I think no commercial fish should qualify and that is not an unreasonable sentiment.

BeeGuy
11-22-2013, 07:19 PM
We had a situation several years ago where commercial arctic char escaped from a fish farm and ended up in glenmore res.

Should these fish qualify for a new provincial record?

Should they qualify for IGFA categories?

Clearly not.

Suggesting that these are "hatchery fish" and therefore equivalent to fish produced for stocking is misleading.

AppleJax
11-22-2013, 07:26 PM
:party0051:...........

BGSH
11-22-2013, 07:27 PM
All records should count, if it's a rainbow it's a rainbow, if it's a waleye it's a walleye, if it's a fish it's a fish, if it's a record then it's a record.

BGSH
11-22-2013, 07:28 PM
:love0025::party0051:...........

I would love some popcorn, come on down and bring some

saskpikeman
11-22-2013, 07:37 PM
There are triploids stocked all over in bc and I believe in Manitoba as well I don't see anybody with there panties in a bunch about that, but if they are a record size in sask lots of arms up in the air......

pickrel pat
11-22-2013, 07:38 PM
All records should count, if it's a rainbow it's a rainbow, if it's a waleye it's a walleye, if it's a fish it's a fish, if it's a record then it's a record.

Shhh. The big boys are debating......:sHa_sarcasticlol:

BeeGuy
11-22-2013, 07:50 PM
There are triploids stocked all over in bc and I believe in Manitoba as well I don't see anybody with there panties in a bunch about that, but if they are a record size in sask lots of arms up in the air......

Stop pretending these were stocked fish. They were commercial property from an aquaculture facility. These were agricultural animals from a farm.


Again, a fair comparison is farm raised elk escaping into the wild.

Is an elk with a farm tag in its ear going to make it into B&C?

My point from my first post is only that IGFA is behind the times. This has has nothing to do with SK, nor any individuals.

It is about regulations, and the lack thereof.


It will be interesting to see if this rainbow from a private lake in Calgary qualifies for any provincial kudos.

BGSH
11-22-2013, 07:59 PM
Stop pretending these were stocked fish. They were commercial property from an aquaculture facility. These were agricultural animals from a farm.


Again, a fair comparison is farm raised elk escaping into the wild.

Is an elk with a farm tag in its ear going to make it into B&C?

My point from my first post is only that IGFA is behind the times. This has has nothing to do with SK, nor any individuals.

It is about regulations, and the lack thereof.


It will be interesting to see if this rainbow from a private lake in Calgary qualifies for any provincial kudos.
Hey Beeguy whats up buddy with all due respect were talking about fish here not Elk, Elk is a totally different species, don't think there are any ElkBows but if there was i am going to catch it and it will be in the record books.
It's not the fairest comparison because Elk is not a fish, I am happy for Sean that he and his brother, told him that many times, they have caught many records that are in the books and not up for discussion, if i catch a 30 pound bow in the nsr tomorrow is that not aloud to be a record fish?

MoFugger21
11-22-2013, 08:06 PM
Good lord BeeGuy....

My thoughts on it all, summed up pretty good:

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/MoFugger21/images_zps80088780.jpg (http://s742.photobucket.com/user/MoFugger21/media/images_zps80088780.jpg.html)

TyreeUM
11-22-2013, 08:13 PM
Commercially raised agricultural animals have no place in the record books IMO.

What is the difference between them escaping at 2-5lbs, 5-10lbs, or 10-20lbs.

According to IGFA, there is no distinction made, which would make escaped basspro fish equally legit. I think no commercial fish should qualify and that is not an unreasonable sentiment.

One difference is those fish would likely never attain world record size. Most hatchery rainbows are "commercial fish", regardless of if they are grown for food or for stocking, so technically are you saying no hatchery fish should qualify for a record?

BeeGuy
11-22-2013, 08:24 PM
One difference is those fish would likely never attain world record size. Most hatchery rainbows are "commercial fish", regardless of if they are grown for food or for stocking, so technically are you saying no hatchery fish should qualify for a record?

That isn't a legit difference. Factually, they are equal. The point is, whether they would qualify or not.

Suggesting that they'd never get big enough does not acknowledge the issue of whether privately raised fish become eligible once they escape.

There is no size cut-off, nor is there a time line for how long commercial fish need to be in the wild.

Whether they are free for 5 days or 5 years does not play into the requirements, nor does the size at which they escape play into the requirements.

According to IGFA there is no difference whether a fish escapes as fry and lives in the wild for 11 years or whether it escapes at 60lbs and lives in the wild for 1 day.

IGFA needs to get with the times.

Agricultural animals have no place in the record books regardless of when they escaped or at what size. Just my opinion. ;)

ESOXangler
11-22-2013, 08:25 PM
I believe only a natural occurring fish should count! Right from the red it was fertilized in! I'm happy for the monster rainbows that were caught! And I'm be damn proud if it was myself! But those ain't natural, that's all there is too it! Genetics will ruin the sport in the quest for bigger and bigger!

And the elk comparison is bang on! It was nurtured by man, it'd be damn cool to shoot but it ain't natural! It was touched by the hand of man!

pickrel pat
11-22-2013, 08:31 PM
Gotta agree with essox and bee. Still a nice trophy and accomplishment though. Congratz.

BeeGuy
11-22-2013, 08:32 PM
One difference is those fish would likely never attain world record size. Most hatchery rainbows are "commercial fish", regardless of if they are grown for food or for stocking, so technically are you saying no hatchery fish should qualify for a record?

So, what if escaped bass pro fish did obtain record size?

Then what?

Should commercially raised, escaped fish be eligible?

saskpikeman
11-22-2013, 08:32 PM
So no North American browns should be records... They aren't "natural"

BeeGuy
11-22-2013, 08:34 PM
Gotta agree with essox and bee. Still a nice trophy and accomplishment though. Congratz.

Ya of course! Those fish are maximum ridiculous!

They should intentionally stock some just for the tourism $$$ alone.

Enormous recreational value.

pickrel pat
11-22-2013, 08:36 PM
So no North American browns should be records... They aren't "natural"

Were they conceived in captivity?

ESOXangler
11-22-2013, 08:38 PM
So no North American browns should be records... They aren't "natural"

Really missed the whole discussion here!

FishingFrenzy
11-22-2013, 08:44 PM
Triploids occur in nature... ergo its not really a ``unnatural fish`` ...

chuck0039
11-22-2013, 08:54 PM
Diefenbaker is a huge lake. It don't matter if the fish was released, escaped or natural, I'm sure a huge amount of time and effort went into finding that world record rainbow. That rainbow belongs in the record book

TyreeUM
11-22-2013, 09:02 PM
So, what if escaped bass pro fish did obtain record size?

Then what?

Should commercially raised, escaped fish be eligible?

Yes, because there is no way to negate one and accept the other, unless you are willing to negate all records that are not pure strain, fertile and caught from native watersheds. If it was caught from a public waterbody using ifga accepted angling methods, then how could it not be accepted. Any fish other than a pure strain native may have any one, or multiple competitive advantages (genetic or environmental) that have allowed the fish to grow to "unnatural" proportions. With respect to rainbow trout, there are few left on this planet that do not carry some lineage that can be traced back to commercial operations, commercial operations with a goal to selectively breed bigger, stronger, faster growing and disease resistant fish...

fishman
11-22-2013, 09:18 PM
:sHa_shakeshout::sHa_shakeshout:
Wot Woot Some body give this man a cigar:sHa_shakeshout:

U know where u can stick your cigar

Badgoodguy
11-22-2013, 10:01 PM
I was informed by a good source that the Rainbow that they say came out of Maligne Lake which is the Alberta Record actually came from the 1st lake from the valley of the 5 lakes south of Jasper.

Was long time ago.

GPBuzz
11-23-2013, 11:03 AM
I was informed by a good source that the Rainbow that they say came out of Maligne Lake which is the Alberta Record actually came from the 1st lake from the valley of the 5 lakes south of Jasper.

Was long time ago.

I spoke to a biologist at Maligne a year after it was caught and they are sure that fish is not from Maligne but cannot prove it

Badgoodguy
11-24-2013, 06:11 PM
I lived and guided and fished Jasper for 15 years :)

Outcasts
11-24-2013, 06:35 PM
I personally will not recognize any of the farm raised fish that are considered in the record books. Argue all you want about triploids happening naturally in the environment but these fish in particular have not had the same predator pressures as a smelt or even as a egg as the wild fish, bonavista holding a record fish is ridiculous, the fish began life in the wild as brood stock around 8-12 lbs and the usually more dangerous youth of the the fish was spent in a concrete lane with no natural predators, when this fish enters the lake it is already an alpha predator. I don't recognize the triploids from defenbeiker for that reason as well. These fish are freaks of science and the result of poor farming practices, not freaks of nature. This applies to deer, elk and any farm raised species, the conditions are ideal and the survival rates are stupid high, so is anyone else that believes they should be considered against natural wild fish that fought their way to the top instead of living in a box and fattened up until they are no longer vulnerable. When baseball decides to make record books for the dopers vs the natural athletes we will not see a difference in the fishing records but i still don't think barry bonds is the all time home run record holder, neither are these fish. just my humble opinion, impressive fish...for a farm fish.

And yes if i caught this fish i would not be overly proud, the same way i hold a 19" cutty or a 22" brown in higher regard than the 12 lb triploid i caught in midnapore lake, it fought like a log and didn't look much better.

fish gunner
11-24-2013, 08:50 PM
The natural triployd ya'll are looking for is the greenwood rainbow iirc

BeeGuy
11-24-2013, 08:54 PM
The natural triployd ya'll are looking for is the greenwood rainbow iirc

Jewel Lake had monsters before the introduction of bait fish.

Shrimp fed behemoths.

fish gunner
11-24-2013, 10:10 PM
Jewel Lake had monsters before the introduction of bait fish.

Shrimp fed behemoths. yep, like the legendary libby fish

outdoors forever
11-24-2013, 11:13 PM
I really need to come on the Fishing Discussion more often.

You guys are funny.......:bad_boys_20:

Carson13
11-25-2013, 06:05 PM
So does anyone know the actual weight of the fish and when it was caught?

Jamie
11-25-2013, 09:33 PM
So does anyone know the actual weight of the fish and when it was caught?

20 pounds
14 oz
Caught in September
Private lake, I don't think it qualifies for any record.

Killer fish!

Jamie

Wild&Free
11-25-2013, 10:23 PM
So, not to get on the GMO/non GMO bandwagon in this discussion and not to discredit the efforts of the Fishinggeeks does anyone know where and what size the non GMO record rainbow is from?

It was Lake P'end Orille in Idaho, in 1956(iirc). Gerard strain rainbows were first introduced to the lake in 1950 as fingerlings. The fish weighed in around 37lbs at 6-7 years old.

Not native fish species, in non native waters was considered the world record before the geeks starting pulling them footballs out of deifenbaker.

I do agree with Bee though, IGFA is behind the times.

Though, I think I'm going to raise a rainbow in a big tank feed it till its 49lbs and the put a hook in it's lips, let it go into some small stocked lake up north here and reel her in. :sHa_sarcasticlol:

BeeGuy
11-25-2013, 10:23 PM
20lbs is huge!

Get the net!!!

Carson13
12-01-2013, 12:01 PM
Which lake was it caught out of? Or does anyone know?

CanuckShooter
12-01-2013, 12:09 PM
20 pounds
14 oz
Caught in September
Private lake, I don't think it qualifies for any record.

Killer fish!

Jamie


That's all .... here I thought we were talking about a big rainbow. Some old pics I've seen from Jewel Lake I believe were of 50-60 pound rainbows..now that is impressive.
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e. It wasn’t long before reports of good rainbow catches started to trickle out of the Boundary Country. In 1913 a miner named George White captured two massive rainbows. Reports had the fish weighing in at 56 and 48 pounds. A photograph of these fish is all that exists now. It was widely circulated at the time of the catch and in the years since.

Pierre
12-02-2013, 07:50 AM
I was informed by a good source that the Rainbow that they say came out of Maligne Lake which is the Alberta Record actually came from the 1st lake from the valley of the 5 lakes south of Jasper.

Was long time ago.

and the lake was closed at the time.:scared:

Zeb
12-02-2013, 02:36 PM
I would have to guess Lake Bonavista too because I have caught them. I only got out twice last year but I caught a few over 10 pounds so I know they are in there. This year I will be focusing on the hogs I know are in there and I will post up some pictures of any I get over 15+ pounds.

elkhunterll
12-02-2013, 02:48 PM
Thats cool

niwrek
12-02-2013, 03:03 PM
I caught an elephant by the tAle in Saskatchewan when I was a kid.....my parents made me let him go

BGSH
12-02-2013, 03:22 PM
I caught an elephant by the tAle in Saskatchewan when I was a kid.....my parents made me let him go

Any photos????::confused:

2beornottobe
12-04-2013, 03:41 PM
Hey Outcast show me a lake in Alberta that is is not stocked rainbows? Stupid argument

BeeGuy
12-04-2013, 04:25 PM
Hey Outcast show me a lake in Alberta that is is not stocked rainbows? Stupid argument

Numerous lakes in Alberta have naturally reproducing populations of rainbows which makes them quite different from stockers, triploids and farmed fish.

Fail to see what point you are trying to make in that regard.