Question

[Typical]

I read the regulation, a child under 16 do not need a fishing licence,and also a person over 65 years of age.
I alos read that those persons must follow the regulation.
I was wondering are they entitle to there own limit ?

[Sceptreguy]

Yes they are entitled to their own limit. As long as they are fishing.

[mikeym]

yes.

but just don't do what some unscropoulus(?) people do by bringing your whole family out for their quota limit even though they never even put a line in the water. happens a lot with certain groups of poachers er sorry people.

Rgds
Mike

[Typical]

Thanks, I was wondering specialy for ice fishing we are entile to 2 holes per person, with one child with you that is fishing, it is legal to have 4 holes

[Lefty-Canuck]

Thanks, I was wondering specialy for ice fishing we are entile to 2 holes per person, with one child with you that is fishing, it is legal to have 4 holes

Yes, as long as the child is able to reel or pull in a fish on their own...a father and a 12 month old baby fishing could not have 4 holes...

At least that's how I understand things. Make no mistake if there is a perceived loophole someone will try it!

LC

[Typical]

I understand, the child is 6 years old and able to reel a line by herself.

[Lefty-Canuck]

I understand, the child is 6 years old and able to reel a line by herself.

Good to go! Have fun!

LC

[Bigdad013]

Yes, as long as the child is able to reel or pull in a fish on their own...a father and a 12 month old baby fishing could not have 4 holes...

At least that's how I understand things. Make no mistake if there is a perceived loophole someone will try it!

LC

I understand what your saying and some people do the wrong thing. But no where can I find in the regulations that it says you have to be able to reel in by yourself.

On the extreme point of discussion. Lets say you have 4 year old that is in a wheelchair and can't do anything for him/her self. But you take them out fishing be it in a boat or on the ice or shore. You have them a line out, they catch a fish on their line. So you stand behind them holding the rod in front of them reeling it in for them to give them the feeling or experience of catching a fish. As for the regs I would say legal, unless you can show me otherwise.

[Okotokian]

On the extreme point of discussion. Lets say you have 4 year old that is in a wheelchair and can't do anything for him/her self. But you take them out fishing be it in a boat or on the ice or shore. You have them a line out, they catch a fish on their line. So you stand behind them holding the rod in front of them reeling it in for them to give them the feeling or experience of catching a fish. As for the regs I would say legal, unless you can show me otherwise.

Well, that is an extreme point as you say. :) but I'll take a run at it. If the child never touches the rod I would have to say that "they" are not fishing or catching a fish. They are watching you catch a fish very very close to them. I also doubt any F&W officer with a heart would ticket you, or judge convict you.

[huntsfurfish]

Its time for all to have a licence. Seniors and kids alike. They do not cost much for a years worth of entertainment.:)

[Lefty-Canuck]

Its time for all to have a licence. Seniors and kids alike. They do not cost much for a years worth of entertainment.:)

Honestly I think that a kids (minors) limit should fall under the limit for the guardian they are fishing with. With the exception that I think kids should still be able to apply for walleye draw tags.

I see too often at the local trout pond Dad fishing 3 pickerel rigs while the wife and kids play at the park and have no interest in fishing....at the end of the day Dad has caught and kept several limits of fish and the kids didn't reel in a single one....

LC

[Mike_W]

Honestly I think that a kids (minors) limit should fall under the limit for the guardian they are fishing with. With the exception that I think kids should still be able to apply for walleye draw tags.

I see too often at the local trout pond Dad fishing 3 pickerel rigs while the wife and kids play at the park and have no interest in fishing....at the end of the day Dad has caught and kept several limits of fish and the kids didn't reel in a single one....

LC

I don't understand your view point on this why if you feel there limit should fall under the guardian yet they should be allowed to apply for draws? Where is the difference? In the fact that money is paid for the tags?

I also just plain disagree with the logic that would make a minors limit fall under a guardian, while I understand the reason why I don't feel this is a fair requirement for everyone.
For instance I have been fishing as long as I can remember I can remember walking creeks with my dad and fishing my own hooks and whatnot. I probably fished purely alone pre teens and up to 16 several times.
I could also eat my fair share of fish.

Now I have made the argument that maybe a minors limit should fall under there guardian but maybe licencing should start younger maybe say 12? Now that's an idea but I think it will prevent what no licencing accomplishes...... kids being included on fishing adventures because there is no cost.

If its your kid then you may not have an issue paying the cost of a licence but what about the friend of your child whos parents don't fish? They may not be willing to dish out $30 bucks for there kid to "try fishing" and tag along with you.

I know this is long winded but yes there are loop holes and abusers but the way it is works pretty good IMO

[Lefty-Canuck]

Anyone at any age can get a WIN card. You need a WIN card to enter draws...therefore any aged kid can enter draws.

What is stopping someone with an infant from entering draws for the infant?

What stops people from abusing the system catching the entire families limits?

I guess my point is I am sick of people taking advantage if the systems in place...

Be it claiming to be residents when they are not
Be it holding more than one WIN card but the spelling of their name slightly different on each one
Be it putting in for draws using their wives, kids, and dogs...yes dogs!
Be it fishing multiple bodies ofnwaternin one day maxing out the possession limits

Guess I am tired of people abusing the system.

LC

[huntsfurfish]

Honestly I think that a kids (minors) limit should fall under the limit for the guardian they are fishing with. With the exception that I think kids should still be able to apply for walleye draw tags.

I see too often at the local trout pond Dad fishing 3 pickerel rigs while the wife and kids play at the park and have no interest in fishing....at the end of the day Dad has caught and kept several limits of fish and the kids didn't reel in a single one....

LC

I think I would be ok with that too. But if a kid has limit too then should have to have regular licence.

[Bigdad013]

What if your not fishing with a guardian. I know as a kid, we would go down to the local river or lake and go fishing. Not all kids need to be watched or supervised

[Lefty-Canuck]

What if your not fishing with a guardian. I know as a kid, we would go down to the local river or lake and go fishing. Not all kids need to be watched or supervised

I fished that way as a kid too...

No easy answers just tired of people taking advantage.

LC

[Redfrog]

Its time for all to have a licence. Seniors and kids alike. They do not cost much for a years worth of entertainment.:)

Isn't it funny how there are different POV on the same subject.

I think kids and seniors should be able to fish with no licenses as well as being allowed to kill and grill a few fish on water that are C/R.:)

a good way to get some interest going in the sport.

[Bigdad013]

Isn't it funny how there are different POV on the same subject.

I think kids and seniors should be able to fish with no licenses as well as being allowed to kill and grill a few fish on water that are C/R.:)

a good way to get some interest going in the sport.

x2

[dragon]

Seniors receiving free licenses is age discrimination and against the charter of rights and freedoms. I have said this for a long time but offering any discount or benefit to children or seniors is discriminatory. If I want veal cutlets or a Salisbury steak at Denny's why should I have to pay a different price!

As an employer if I employ a senior I can't tell him that I'm paying him 10% less because his cost of living is lower. :scared0018:


If I was to set it up, Seniors and Kids under 14 fish for free. Kids limits are included with their guardian and the guardian must be present to keep this limit

If a child or senior wishes to keep fish they must purchase a licences and applicable tags if required.

[dragon]

Isn't it funny how there are different POV on the same subject.

I think kids and seniors should be able to fish with no licenses as well as being allowed to kill and grill a few fish on water that are C/R.:)

a good way to get some interest going in the sport.

and teach them about the responsibilities we have to look after our resources. and explain that their are cost associated with protecting them.

Keep in mind a video game is what $40? $60

Whats a movie worth $20 for 2 hours of entertainment?

In perspective fishing and buying a licence is still cheap.

[HunterDave]

I see too often at the local trout pond Dad fishing 3 pickerel rigs while the wife and kids play at the park and have no interest in fishing....at the end of the day Dad has caught and kept several limits of fish and the kids didn't reel in a single one....

I see this written quite often on AO but in all my years fishing I've never seen it anywhere that I've fished. I usually see younger kids with little kiddie fishing rods and adults with their adult ones. Then again, I've never seen a family with kids fish long enough to catch several limits of fish either. :)

[The Reel Deal]

Keep what you need to feed your family. Use discretion, just because you can doesn't mean you should...

[huntsfurfish]

and teach them about the responsibilities we have to look after our resources. and explain that their are cost associated with protecting them.

Keep in mind a video game is what $40? $60

Whats a movie worth $20 for 2 hours of entertainment?

In perspective fishing and buying a licence is still cheap.

Agree!

[Lefty-Canuck]

I see this written quite often on AO but in all my years fishing I've never seen it anywhere that I've fished. I usually see younger kids with little kiddie fishing rods and adults with their adult ones. Then again, I've never seen a family with kids fish long enough to catch several limits of fish either. :)

Come on down to the Beaumont pond...we can chuck a few flies in the spring and I can show you exactly what I am talking about :)

LC

[muskokagould]

I've been fishing alone since about 12 years old. I'm sure some of my best memories were carrying home what I thought to be a trophy to show my dad. Possibly the reason all my free time and money is spent fishing.

I think it'd be wrong to take this opportunity away from kids. Also some kids are lucky enough to acquire a hand me down rod and some hooks, parents may not have the money or see the need to purchase said child a licence, because of a lack of interest. lets not speak for this child, and forget how good some of us have it

As far a seniors go, either way, but it wouldn't bother me if I had purchase one at any age of adulthood.

[dragon]

I've been fishing alone since about 12 years old. I'm sure some of my best memories were carrying home what I thought to be a trophy to show my dad. Possibly the reason all my free time and money is spent fishing.

I think it'd be wrong to take this opportunity away from kids. Also some kids are lucky enough to acquire a hand me down rod and some hooks, parents may not have the money or see the need to purchase said child a licence, because of a lack of interest. lets not speak for this child, and forget how good some of us have it

As far a seniors go, either way, but it wouldn't bother me if I had purchase one at any age of adulthood.

I've been fishing since I was 12 too and its been pretty much all catch and release... whats the point?

25 bucks gets you fishing with a simple rod and reel combo and a few hooks. Put it into perspective.
Hockey stick and ball or buck $25
sled $15
Video game $40
Sling shot $20

Fishing is one of the cheapest activities to get started in.

[Badgoodguy]

If I want veal cutlets or a Salisbury steak at Denny's why should I have to pay a different price!

Denny s Yuck

[Lefty-Canuck]

lefty if that is happening and your aren't saying anything or reporting it than you are a douchebag and a whiner. There is a real pattern to your posts and they all point to you being a d!ck. If it truly bothers you be a man and say something. If the response you get isn't one that you find favourable or if the person is a repeat offender then report them. If you refuse to do either than you are as guilty as the poacher because you were complicit in their actions. The only thing that isn't effective is you coming on here trying to be an Internet tough guy and constantly sounding like a douchebag.

Wow coolio...I have reported things using RAP several times.

In fact I actually call several times a year both during fishing and hunting season when I see something out of the ordinary. Just because I have a different opinion than you, you go on the offensive and name call? What are you 15 years old?

Who portrays themselves as an Internet tough guy newbie?

Stick around you will soon realize you couldn't be further than the truth about your assumptions of my character....I predict you will have a short stay here buddy.

Oh and read this over and take your own advice....

The only thing that isn't effective is you coming on here trying to be an Internet tough guy and constantly sounding like a douchebag.

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/lefty-canuck/funnies/PS_0229W_DISAGREE_ME_t.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lefty-canuck/media/funnies/PS_0229W_DISAGREE_ME_t.jpg.html)

LC

[TylerThomson]

Thanks for quoting that for me as my original post was deleted by a mod. That wasn't a comment on just this post just your posting in general. I received an infraction for directly naming you a douchbag as I was unaware of the rule that only passive aggressive comments are allowed.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Thanks for quoting that for me as my original post was deleted by a mod. That wasn't a comment on just this post just your posting in general. I received an infraction for directly naming you a douchbag as I was unaware of the rule that only passive aggressive comments are allowed.

Glad I could help! :)

Not sure why what I said got you all fired up there :)

Deep breaths man....it's the interweb not everyone agrees all the time....and you know what? That's ok....

Glad to see I have a follower of my posts! I am flattered you take notice of what I have to say :). Everyone else just ignores me....you should try it, it might work out better for you.

LC

[Geezle]

Thanks for quoting that for me as my original post was deleted by a mod. That wasn't a comment on just this post just your posting in general. I received an infraction for directly naming you a douchbag as I was unaware of the rule that only passive aggressive comments are allowed.

I <3 the fishing section of this forum :grouphug:

Stay classy! :medium-smiley-035:

[Alberta Bigbore]

Enough already.. get on with the show.:scared0015:i

[muskokagould]

I've been fishing since I was 12 too and its been pretty much all catch and release... whats the point?

25 bucks gets you fishing with a simple rod and reel combo and a few hooks. Put it into perspective.
Hockey stick and ball or buck $25
sled $15
Video game $40
Sling shot $20

Fishing is one of the cheapest activities to get started in.

Doesn't mean all kids have access to that $25 let alone get another $25 from parents for a licence. I agree that it's cheap to get into but $50 is a lot for some. Maybe to some this is more than yourself.

[bogwalker]

Honestly I think that a kids (minors) limit should fall under the limit for the guardian they are fishing with.

LC

This is the way it is in bc... makes total sense to me.. FYI I have a 7 year old girl who likes to out fish her dad. if we keep its only on my limit...

[kevinhits]

Doesn't mean all kids have access to that $25 let alone get another $25 from parents for a licence. I agree that it's cheap to get into but $50 is a lot for some. Maybe to some this is more than yourself.

Sorry had to say it....

They can afford that every month for their Iphone....Take a guess which is higher on their prioity list...LOL

[Lefty-Canuck]

This is the way it is in bc... makes total sense to me.. FYI I have a 7 year old girl who likes to out fish her dad. if we keep its only on my limit...

I think it is a good idea personally (I have kids who are both under the age of needing a license also 11 & 15, trust me the 15 year old eats way more than I do!)....the reason why I think kids should be able to still draw walleye tags (as they can now) is those tags are issued for management, and its the way things are going so I think they should learn about it from the get go.

I think alot of folks used to fish to fill the freezer and can the fish for the winter etc....fact is due to pressure now the fisheries in Alberta cannot sustain or support that sort of harvest....things need to be done so that people can still fish, take home something to eat and still be able to fish again tomorrow.

LC

[huntsfurfish]

I think it is a good idea personally (I have kids who are both under the age of needing a license also 11 & 15, trust me the 15 year old eats way more than I do!)....the reason why I think kids should be able to still draw walleye tags (as they can now) is those tags are issued for management, and its the way things are going so I think they should learn about it from the get go.

I think alot of folks used to fish to fill the freezer and can the fish for the winter etc....fact is due to pressure now the fisheries in Alberta cannot sustain or support that sort of harvest....things need to be done so that people can still fish, take home something to eat and still be able to fish again tomorrow.

LC

I agree, well said.

[HunterDave]

Come on down to the Beaumont pond...we can chuck a few flies in the spring and I can show you exactly what I am talking about :)

LC

If you say that it's happening there then it is. I've never seen anything like that happening at any of the small trout ponds that I've been to, including the one right here in Morinville.

Thanks for the offer but I don't fly fish. If you let me know where all those problem elk are I'd be in your debt though. I'm pri 5 for a cow. ;)

[BPman]

No question about seniors each having their own limit.

As for a guy putting out a line for each of his kids under 16, the only restriction I can find in the Regs is under 'General Sportfishing Restrictions", page 18, where it says: " While angling be further than 30 m from any line in the water". Good luck keeping a bunch of kids within a hundred feet of their poles while playing at a park.
Otherwise, it seems each is entitled to a limit.

Some folks just have a mindset about trying to beat each and every law... it is their challenge in life. Sad!

[Lefty-Canuck]

I am all for families fishing don't get me wrong, but when the kids are bored and want to play at the park and don't want to fish....bring in their lines....dead easy solution!

LC