Best knot to use??? Need advice

[simmered]

Wondering what knots everybody is using to tie their flouro leaders to their braid lines.
I've had two knot failures now and don't want another.
Thanks

[catchandeat]

I've used this one before with great success:
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[Mike_W]

I have been using the double uni with good results but this knot looks like I might have to try.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEYeUl5bBCA

[simmered]

Anybody try or use this one?
http://youtu.be/dY4Nr21sYlA

[DiabeticKripple]

2 fishermans knots with a barrel swivel in the middle

[WayneChristie]

I just tie an overhand loop in the end of each, allbrightlike, one loop through the other and good to go. hasnt failed me so far

[sparky660]

I tried 2 rapala knots with a swivel but didn't land anything. Gave it a good pull and it felt strong, lol.

[The Fisherman Guy]

Depends on the weight of the lines, but mostly a Blood Knot. It has not failed once for me. They can be a bit of a PITA to tie at first, and be sure to spit on it before you tighten any knot - this one especially.

http://www.animatedknots.com/bloodknot/index.php?Categ=fishing&LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com

Once you get the hang of it, it's not too bad. It works well for me with 15lb Suffix Braid to 6lb Flourocarbon.

[EZM]

Small swivel - Palomar knot on each end ..... STRONG and Chuck Norris approved.

[The Fisherman Guy]

I ran swivels for a long time, but found too much attention from fish turned me away from it. Trout, Perch and Walleye all have chased my swivel so they take notice of it.

[fish gunner]

2 fishermans knots with a barrel swivel in the middle

K, I, S, S X2 improved cinch knots. Im starting to lean toward the palamar knot for stuff now.

[EZM]

I ran swivels for a long time, but found too much attention from fish turned me away from it. Trout, Perch and Walleye all have chased my swivel so they take notice of it.

Lol - yes they do - I had a small pike grab my tiny sliding egg sinker and swivel ..... tried to get away with it. He ignored my bait ......

For perch and trout - I use small micro swivel - and quite a long fluorocarbon leader - 36" or more to avoid or reduce the chances of spooking them.

[Adwittoutdoors]

I myself like the Uni knot and the improved cinch knot. I'm all thumbs when it comes to the Albright knot. :angry3:lol

[cube]

Wondering what knots everybody is using to tie their flouro leaders to their braid lines.
I've had two knot failures now and don't want another.
Thanks

After a season of testing "Knot Wars" found the Modified Albright to be the strongest flouro to braid knot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R_2xautA1U

The Bob Foran knot is bulkier but easier to tie and just about as strong as the Modified Albright. (you also get a dropper line to tie on an additional hook if you want)

http://www.worldfishingnetwork.com/tips/video/the-bob-foran-knot

Tying a swivel on to the braid, with a Palomar or Homer circle knot, and then using a trilene knot to tie the flouro leader on will be stronger than any direct connecting knots. With a 4 ft flouro leader I have not had any problems with spooking fish and you have enough in case of a pike bite off.


I use the direct connecting knots when I need to cast as the swivel interferes here.

Good luck

[The Reel Deal]

I've been using the palomar knot since spider wire came out in the early 90's. But since I've started using floro leaders I too am looking for a knot to tie to my lures. I find the palomar just doesn't look right when I tie it with floro and don't trust it.

[TylerThomson]

palomars and swivels all the way.

[bisonhunter]

Anybody try or use this one?
http://youtu.be/dY4Nr21sYlA

I use this knot for my braid to fluorocarbon. Never once had a failure, caught lots of fish well into the twenty pound range with it.

[simmered]

Lots of suggestions thanks. Prefer not to use a swivel due to it going through the eyelets and possibly causing damage. But I did think of that!
Going to try a couple that look easy to tie with cold hands. Lol.

[huntsfurfish]

Never had double Uni knot fail.

[javlin101]

Small swivel - Palomar knot on each end ..... STRONG and Chuck Norris approved.

x2 works for me

[simmered]

So a few guys use the small swivels. How long are your leaders? And how do you guys find them when they go through the eyelets? I have to admit that makes me nervous, i just invision the eyelets popping out when the swivel goes through. I usually have a four to six foot leader So on my ice rods the swivel will go through the reel as well. Just wonder how you guys manage this.

[huntsfurfish]

Wondering what knots everybody is using to tie their flouro leaders to their braid lines.
I've had two knot failures now and don't want another.
Thanks

Just to clear things up, you have lost the leader each time? Or just the hooks/lure?

Properly tied knots should not fail.:) At least not easily.;)

Remember, if using a swivel there are 2 knots for that as well as for your hook/lure = 3 knots.

There is only 2 total, if you join line with a knot.

Practice tying some knots that you use.

The more knots, the more weak links.

[TylerThomson]

I use a 4 foot leader and when I see the swivel I stop reeling and just lift my rod up till the fish is in the hole. I used to use blood knots as well but I find them difficult to tire when my hands are cold. A Palomar knot is so simple and quick and like someone else said Chuck Norris approved I've never had one fail.

[simmered]

No the whole leader came off. I used a double surgeons knot to join the two. I use the smart knot on my fly line for the Tippett to the leader. Never had an issue.
After my first loss I thought it was just a poorly tied knot, but after second failure figured it must be the braid and flouro. The leader material I'm using is just 12lb Berkeley vanish fishing line. Not sure if leader material and fishing line are different but I would think flouro line would be same as leader material. Fluorocarbon is fluorocarbon right? Maybe I'm wrong.
On a side note I tried tying that reverse Albright and the flouro pulled right out of the braid. I also tried that modified Albright and that one seems to be holding pretty tight.

[J D]

Uni or blood knot for me

[Walleyemagnet]

I've been using back to back uni knots for years and never had a failure. I don't like the idea if a swivel because you can't reel it through the rod guides and onto your reel like you can with a knot. With practice, you'll be able to hook on a 12ft flouro leader with your eyes closed.

[The Fisherman Guy]

IMO, not many of Alberta's fish twist the line, with the exception of a bit caused by Northerns and Burbs. That said, not so much that I feel a swivel is necessary. Swivels also can get hung up on the ice, causing slack line and lost fish.

I tie my blood knots the night before a fishin mission, in the warmth of my shop. That way, I know it was tied right and I am not rushing to get a line in the water.

[fish gunner]

I've been using back to back uni knots for years and never had a failure. I don't like the idea if a swivel because you can't reel it through the rod guides and onto your reel like you can with a knot. With practice, you'll be able to hook on a 12ft flouro leader with your eyes closed.

Its easy to sey swivel leader to rod length for ice fishing 24"rod 18"leader for open water I use 2"unless trolling which is 1'short of rod length.

[EZM]

I am a little surprised at a few comments / concerns about reeling the swivel through the eye of the rod ....... and questions on how to avoid that ...........

I'd suggest just stop reeling.

You will obviously see your braid ending at a swivel at some point and the clear flouro coming up ......... at that point stop reeling. Works for me.

You can set also put a larger bead at the end of the braid prior to attaching your swivel - I do this for children who get excited and can't seem to stop reeling.

I also don't let them use my St.Croix either .... lol

Remind me not to let you use my good rods if I ever invite you out for a fishing trip !!!

My neighbor did that one to one of my favorite, but not most expensive rods, I was a little stunned. I know he is not "joe pro tour fisher" and did warn him a few times after a few preliminary incidents, but a bigger fish came he just kept on reeling as fast as he could like a monkey on a banana flavored crack feeding tube .....

I should have put a tennis ball on his line .........