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Fishmaster
01-24-2014, 08:56 PM
Have a look at this, apparently 1.8 million liters of oil has leaked into cold lake.
Have a read for yourself
http://m.vice.com/en_ca/read/oil-has-been-spilling-into-albertas-cold-lake-for-almost-nine-months-and-no-one-knows-why

Dave

DiabeticKripple
01-24-2014, 09:10 PM
Have a look at this, apparently 1.8 million liters of oil has leaked into cold lake.
Have a read for yourself
http://m.vice.com/en_ca/read/oil-has-been-spilling-into-albertas-cold-lake-for-almost-nine-months-and-no-one-knows-why

Dave

It hasn't leaked into cold lake, just into a smaller lake near cold lake.

They pressurized their steam to high and broke the cap rock so the path of least resistance is upwards. Bad bad situation and nearly impossible to fix.

Mike_W
01-24-2014, 09:10 PM
Not into cold lake but near cold lake in various areas.
Fracing to the surface?

Fishmaster
01-24-2014, 09:21 PM
Ahhh okay okay makes sense, sorry haha

DiabeticKripple
01-24-2014, 09:56 PM
Not into cold lake but near cold lake in various areas.
Fracing to the surface?

Not fracking, but similar. Unintentionally broke the cap rock

TylerThomson
01-25-2014, 09:54 AM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam-assisted_gravity_drainage

That's what they are doing I'm that area and it had been done safely by lots of other companies. I'm not sure what caused the leak and won't guess but whatever happened it's definitely bad news. Hope they get it fixed soon.

Teamprotz
01-25-2014, 02:20 PM
Did some work on a well yesterday , stuff happening that should not be happening !

Kauna
01-25-2014, 04:03 PM
Did some work on a well yesterday , stuff happening that should not be happening !

sounds like trouble ..maybe we should slow down ..just sayin

Kauna
01-25-2014, 04:04 PM
It hasn't leaked into cold lake, just into a smaller lake near cold lake.
They pressurized their steam to high and broke the cap rock so the path of least resistance is upwards. Bad bad situation and nearly impossible to fix.

that's a relief...

tight line
01-25-2014, 06:33 PM
Yes its true, there is oil leaking into Cold Lake.. Out of all the FAT Lake Trout... Being serious, CNRL over injected steam in a SAGD field which over pressurized the Formation causing oil to come to surface( very shallow Formation there.. 350-400m TVD) it flowed into a small non fish bearing lake. CNRL has( by Order) drained the lake as part of the clean up, and supposedly will refill it this spring, as it was home for alot of waterfowl. Very bad situation... And Thankfully it did not afect Cold Lake Directly. The Oilfield activity is not located in proximity to Cold Lake.

hal53
01-25-2014, 06:36 PM
Yes its true, there is oil leaking into Cold Lake.. Out of all the FAT Lake Trout... Being serious, CNRL over injected steam in a SAGD field which over pressurized the Formation causing oil to come to surface( very shallow Formation there.. 350-400m TVD) it flowed into a small non fish bearing lake. CNRL has( by Order) drained the lake as part of the clean up, and supposedly will refill it this spring, as it was home for alot of waterfowl. Very bad situation... And Thankfully it did not afect Cold Lake Directly. The Oilfield activity is not located in proximity to Cold Lake.
there will be a couple Geologists and production foremen polishing up there CV's I am thinking....unacceptable...

CanuckShooter
01-25-2014, 06:42 PM
Don't worry about it, don't you all drive cars and have computers?? :thinking-006:

hal53
01-25-2014, 06:48 PM
Don't worry about it, don't you all drive cars and have computers?? :thinking-006:
how many acres of habitat did your sawmill butcher today?????

CanuckShooter
01-25-2014, 06:52 PM
how many acres of habitat did your sawmill butcher today?????


I don't have a sawmill, don't own any shares in one either.

Although everyone knows you have to be a big hypocrite to criticize anything big oil does...oil makes the world go around, so big deal they filled up a little pond with a natural product.

hal53
01-25-2014, 06:56 PM
I don't have a sawmill, don't own any shares in one either.

Although everyone knows you have to be a big hypocrite to criticize anything big oil does...oil makes the world go around, so big deal they filled up a little pond with a natural product.
didn't condone it, some heads should roll as they didn't follow rules and regulations...doesn't take a brain surgeon to calculate the frac gradient of the cap rock....

Reddin
01-25-2014, 06:59 PM
how many acres of habitat did your sawmill butcher today?????

how many acres of habitat did your sawmill butcher today?

hal53
01-25-2014, 07:01 PM
how many acres of habitat did your sawmill butcher today?
none.....yours???

Reddin
01-25-2014, 07:02 PM
none.....yours???

my point. get your facts straight.

hal53
01-25-2014, 07:04 PM
my point. get your facts straight.
oh....uh.....okay, thanks!:thinking-006:

Reddin
01-25-2014, 07:08 PM
oh....uh.....okay, thanks!:thinking-006:

uhh ... yah ... okay.. you accuse buddy of clear cutting habitat which he has nothing to do with and then rebuttal with heads gotta roll over a physics formula?

hal53
01-25-2014, 07:17 PM
uhh ... yah ... okay.. you accuse buddy of clear cutting habitat which he has nothing to do with and then rebuttal with heads gotta roll over a physics formula?
1) he works at a mill in B.C.
2) he is against any oil activity, pulp mills, saw mills are fine??
3) physics formula?, it is injection pressure 101, some heads better roll, it is BS that happened in this day and age, you know "exactly" what your pressure limitations are and you stay 20% below that....

Reddin
01-25-2014, 07:22 PM
1) you know "exactly" what your pressure limitations are and you stay 20% below that....

I don't know what "exactly" my pressure limitations are, and a yellow warning light should go off at 19%.

hal53
01-25-2014, 07:24 PM
I don't know what "exactly" my pressure limitations are, and a yellow warning light should go off at 19%.
then you should know...instead of waiting for a "yellow" warning light...sheesh!!!!

dale7637
01-25-2014, 07:28 PM
Hey Hal,
Can they run back in horizontally above the fractured cap rock and squeeze cement to close the fracture?
How would you think they will deal with it?

hal53
01-25-2014, 07:32 PM
Hey Hal,
Can they run back in horizontally above the fractured cap rock and squeeze cement to close the fracture?
How would you think they will deal with it?
might be able to from the steam line, not many details divulged, but it will have to be handled....normally the steam line is horizontal above the horizontal production line, so they do have access, could be dicey about the ground water?.....

tight line
01-25-2014, 07:35 PM
Don't worry about it, don't you all drive cars and have computers?? :thinking-006:

Stop yelling!! I do alot of Directional work for CNRL... Calling it a bad situation, and talking about it doesn't put people against it. Its a fact of life... We need Oil!