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crf250xtom
04-07-2014, 06:44 PM
Any one have any input on why the majority of Fisher people can't judge a Fishes weight reasonably especially when it's their fish?

Thanks.

Lefty-Canuck
04-07-2014, 06:54 PM
How long and big is this fish?

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/lefty-canuck/fishing_2012/1B42DA8E-E679-4132-BF8D-93EE60F024D6_zpsqcynnpmn.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lefty-canuck/media/fishing_2012/1B42DA8E-E679-4132-BF8D-93EE60F024D6_zpsqcynnpmn.jpg.html)

How about this one?

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/lefty-canuck/rainbow.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lefty-canuck/media/rainbow.jpg.html)

This one?

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/lefty-canuck/fish_2011_1.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lefty-canuck/media/fish_2011_1.jpg.html)

Or how about this one.

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/lefty-canuck/Fish/walleye_2a.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lefty-canuck/media/Fish/walleye_2a.jpg.html)

LC

crf250xtom
04-07-2014, 06:59 PM
How long and big is this fish?

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/lefty-canuck/fishing_2012/1B42DA8E-E679-4132-BF8D-93EE60F024D6_zpsqcynnpmn.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lefty-canuck/media/fishing_2012/1B42DA8E-E679-4132-BF8D-93EE60F024D6_zpsqcynnpmn.jpg.html)

How about this one?

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/lefty-canuck/rainbow.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lefty-canuck/media/rainbow.jpg.html)

This one?

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/lefty-canuck/fish_2011_1.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lefty-canuck/media/fish_2011_1.jpg.html)

LC

Sorry you must have misunderstood my question I'm talking about people judging their own fish.

It always seems that they exaggerate quite a bit.

Lefty-Canuck
04-07-2014, 07:01 PM
What cracks me up is people who see one pic of a fish and think they know exactly how big it is length/weight and everything....and they weren't there when it was caught.

So try and guess how big the fish I posted are....and I'll let you know later :)

LC

crf250xtom
04-07-2014, 07:17 PM
What cracks me up is people who see one pic of a fish and think they know exactly how big it is length/weight and everything....and they weren't there when it was caught.

So try and guess how big the fish I posted are....and I'll let you know later :)

LC

First picture is deceiving cause it's just on the mud but I would have to say 5.5 to 6 lb.

Second pic I would have to say 4.5 to 5lbs.

Third pic I would have to say 16.5 to 17 lbs.

The walleye 5 to 5.5lbs

Lefty-Canuck
04-07-2014, 07:20 PM
First picture is deceiving cause it's just on the mud but I would have to say 5.5 to 6 lb.

Second pic I would have to say 4.5 to 5lbs.

Third pic I would have to say 16.5 to 17 lbs.

The walleye 5 to 5.5lbs

How long are they?

LC

rafhone
04-07-2014, 07:22 PM
I'll take a stab at those fish, probably be way off. Curious how close I'll be.

1st pike is 37" 13lbs
rainbow is 29" 8lbs
2nd pike is 47'" 24lbs
walleye is 32 1/2" 12.68923lbs

crf250xtom
04-07-2014, 07:24 PM
How long are they?

LC

This thread was intended for weight not length sorry I should have put that in the op.

BeeGuy
04-07-2014, 07:27 PM
Any one have any input on why the majority of Fisher people can't judge a Fishes weight reasonably especially when it's their fish?

Thanks.

There is a reason it is called a fish story.

I embellish almost every one I tell. It makes the story better.

Just enjoy the story.

Lefty-Canuck
04-07-2014, 07:28 PM
This thread was intended for weight not length sorry I should have put that in the op.

I am just asking your opinion....toss out some guesses.

Length and weigh are related....look at charts.

LC

Kyle
04-07-2014, 07:28 PM
Lefty canuck officially hijacked this thread. Even got to throw up his infamous pike picture :sHa_sarcasticlol:. I think the answer to your question is that people try to show off, 34" and 14 lbs does not sound as impressive as 42" 22 lbs. Or they genuinely don't have a clue as they never measured or weighed it and just guessed the sizes.

crf250xtom
04-07-2014, 07:30 PM
34 inches
26 inches
43 inches
28 inches

Lefty-Canuck
04-07-2014, 07:31 PM
Lefty canuck officially hijacked this thread. Even got to throw up his infamous pike picture :sHa_sarcasticlol:. I think the answer to your question is that people try to show off, 34" and 14 lbs does not sound as impressive as 42" 22 lbs. Or they genuinely don't have a clue as they never measured or weighed it and just guessed the sizes.

You caught that hey :)
(I have to get as much mileage as I can from the pic...took me 35years to get one like than in the fly)

My point is a single picture can be very deceiving...

LC

crf250xtom
04-07-2014, 07:32 PM
Lefty canuck officially hijacked this thread. Even got to throw up his infamous pike picture :sHa_sarcasticlol:. I think the answer to your question is that people try to show off, 34" and 14 lbs does not sound as impressive as 42" 22 lbs. Or they genuinely don't have a clue as they never measured or weighed it and just guessed the sizes.

Thanks for the legitimate reply it's appreciated lol. But I enjoyed LC test it's pretty fun.

pickrel pat
04-07-2014, 07:32 PM
First picture is deceiving cause it's just on the mud but I would have to say 5.5 to 6 lb.

Second pic I would have to say 4.5 to 5lbs.

Third pic I would have to say 16.5 to 17 lbs.

The walleye 5 to 5.5lbs

way off on the eye.....:) Lefty would not even dream of catching fish that small!!!

WayneChristie
04-07-2014, 07:36 PM
not many people have experience lifting objects and actually weighing them, so they dont have a reasonable idea what the actual weight is. and some just like to embellish because they cant catch a real big fish so they make theirs bigger

AppleJax
04-07-2014, 07:37 PM
Any one have any input on why the majority of Fisher people can't judge a Fishes weight reasonably especially when it's their fish?

Thanks.

How many pictures of fish have you posted on this forum?

WayneChristie
04-07-2014, 07:47 PM
How long and big is this fish?



This one?

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/lefty-canuck/fish_2011_1.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lefty-canuck/media/fish_2011_1.jpg.html)


LC

I think that pike was 6 inches shorter and you just stretched it out! :fighting0074:

Lefty-Canuck
04-07-2014, 07:48 PM
I think that pike was 6 inches shorter and you just stretched it out! :fighting0074:

A rolling pin does wonders :)

To answer the OP, fisherman are known for telling stories...and some truly do not know the weight of fish but they know they are big so they assign a best guess.

There was a fellow here who posted what he figured was an over 50inch pike from Wab that weighed 35lbs....it didn't look that big but who really knows hard to judge for those who weren't there to see it.

LC

crf250xtom
04-07-2014, 07:55 PM
How many pictures of fish have you posted on this forum?

I don't take pictures of fish because I think it's selfish and immoral to keep a fish out of water after the hook is out I usually don't even touch them because you remove slime and that's not good for them either.

Lefty-Canuck
04-07-2014, 07:56 PM
I don't take pictures of fish because I think it's selfish and immoral to keep a fish out of water after the hook is out I usually don't even touch them because you remove slime and that's not good for them either.

Do you weigh or measure them or just guess?

LC

AppleJax
04-07-2014, 08:00 PM
I don't take pictures of fish because I think it's selfish and immoral to keep a fish out of water after the hook is out I usually don't even touch them because you remove slime and that's not good for them either.


That statement about fits with almost every other post you've made on here. Do you sit on a pedestal while your trolling?

crf250xtom
04-07-2014, 08:16 PM
To answer both your questions I don't weigh or measure any fish unless I'm going to fill walleye tags.

I'm not trolling it's just my preference to cause as little harm or agitation to the fish I catch is all I'm saying.

Lefty-Canuck
04-07-2014, 08:20 PM
To answer both your questions I don't weigh or measure any fish unless I'm going to fill walleye tags.

I'm not trolling it's just my preference to cause as little harm or agitation to the fish I catch is all I'm saying.

How do you know people are wrong in their fish weights and sizes if you haven't measured any fish using scales or tapes??

LC

MoFugger21
04-07-2014, 08:22 PM
That statement about fits with almost every other post you've made on here. Do you sit on a pedestal while your trolling?

Haha

crf250xtom
04-07-2014, 08:23 PM
How do you know people are wrong in their fish weights and sizes if you haven't measured any fish using scales or tapes??

LC

Because I have lots of experience with others who do.

Lefty-Canuck
04-07-2014, 08:24 PM
Because I have lots of experience with others who do.

Do you question their ethics/morality before or after they tell you how large the fish is?

LC :)

Chief16
04-07-2014, 08:31 PM
I think that length is a better representation of fish size. A 40 inch pike would easily take a 4 pound fish which would greatly ambelish the weight of it

burbotman
04-07-2014, 09:09 PM
To answer both your questions I don't weigh or measure any fish unless I'm going to fill walleye tags.

I'm not trolling it's just my preference to cause as little harm or agitation to the fish I catch is all I'm saying.

Your answer surprises as me, I thought you commonly weighed and measured fish? At least the ones you see other people post

Seriously though I do get where you are coming from as most fish that are estimated are estimated on the high side by the person who caught it and on the low side by others

Brandonkop
04-07-2014, 09:47 PM
Personally I know I can estimate the size of every fish to the millimeter and weight to the ounce the second they bite!

When taking fish pics you got to give the fish every chance its got to look like a big one, otherwise that's just a sad fish with a sore lip. (In your case a sad fish for even being caught and forgotten)

1)Hold that baby straight out with arms stretched!
2)Hide your fingers under or behind the fish, you wouldn't want your giant hands giving any perspective!
3)Shove that fish right up into the lens if you can, so the tails at one side of the frame and the snout at the other
4)Make sure the sun is behind the photographer.
5)Make sure the background doesn't have obvious Identifiers as to your top secret location... and if it does you can always ruin the pic later by blurring it out before you post!

6)Most importantly.... FISHING IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN! SMILE FOR THE CAMERA!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/Brandonkop/FishStory.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Brandonkop/media/FishStory.jpg.html)

Your reasoning cracks me up. If you're concerned about fish mortality don't fish. Fishing = Mortality and I enjoy if the mortality ends up in the frying pan, haahaa!

MoFugger21
04-07-2014, 10:45 PM
Thought this was fitting for crf250xtom...



https://i.imgflip.com/807ob.jpg

RavYak
04-07-2014, 10:55 PM
How long and big is this fish?

How about this one?

This one?

Or how about this one.

LC

4 lbs
5 lbs
20 lbs
3 lbs

RavYak
04-07-2014, 11:02 PM
Any one have any input on why the majority of Fisher people can't judge a Fishes weight reasonably especially when it's their fish?

Thanks.

As mentioned most people don't regularly lift weights and are unable to reasonably guess because to them it just feels heavy so they try and relate it to what weight they think would be that heavy.

Another issue is that some people use the cheap scales that are horribly inaccurate. Lots of people use the cheap red wolf spring scales but I know I have seen a couple of those that were multiple pounds off.

As for myself, I must be an exception as I often underestimate my fishes weight. I like finally having a good quality scale though and am continually working to get better with my guesses.

baptiste_moose
04-08-2014, 02:30 AM
pike 2 1/2 lbs
bow 9 lbs
pike 17 lbs
Walter 11 lbs

Lefty-Canuck
04-08-2014, 07:28 AM
My point is in all of this is people who catch fish are quick to over estimate and those who are looking at pics of a good fish are quick to under estimate.

The first fish is 39 inches never weighed it but guess it was 16 lbs, was by myself and wanted to get it back quickly.

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/lefty-canuck/fishing_2012/IMG-20120607-00471.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lefty-canuck/media/fishing_2012/IMG-20120607-00471.jpg.html)

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/lefty-canuck/fishing_2012/IMG-20120607-00473.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lefty-canuck/media/fishing_2012/IMG-20120607-00473.jpg.html)

The trout was 5.5lbs never measured the length, guess at 24-25inches

The large pike was 44inches estimated weight was 23lbs

The walleye was a complete hog caught on a red Len Thompson from shore, 9lbs 4oz...9.25lbs just over 30inches if I recall and I never caught it but I did release it :).

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/lefty-canuck/Fish/walleye_weight.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lefty-canuck/media/Fish/walleye_weight.jpg.html)

LC

EZM
04-08-2014, 07:41 AM
We have all taken pictures of a nice fish, in a hurry to get a quick shot and sent it on it's way quickly.

I am often disappointed when I go back and review the photos ..... I (we) have measured and properly weighed fish in the 14-19 lb range and some end up looking they were 7lbs-8lbs.

I have also weighed and photographed 5lb-6lbers that looked like 10 lb-12 lbers.

It is all about perspective. Some guys here got it down to a science ..... see Brandon's post ........ that's a perfect example. I bet that laker could have been 6lb-7lbs but looks much larger. He's 100% right.

Just because someone posted up a "20lb fish" that looks closer to 10lbs ..... who cares .... as annoying as it is to some ...... it doesn't change anything.

Brandonkop
04-08-2014, 07:57 AM
I believe it was between 12 and 13 pounds on the digital but that was ten years ago so I'd be telling a fish story to tell you that's exact.

Secret coulee
04-08-2014, 08:18 AM
We have all taken pictures of a nice fish, in a hurry to get a quick shot and sent it on it's way quickly.

I am often disappointed when I go back and review the photos ..... I (we) have measured and properly weighed fish in the 14-19 lb range and some end up looking they were 7lbs-8lbs.

I have also weighed and photographed 5lb-6lbers that looked like 10 lb-12 lbers.

It is all about perspective. Some guys here got it down to a science ..... see Brandon's post ........ that's a perfect example. I bet that laker could have been 6lb-7lbs but looks much larger. He's 100% right.

Just because someone posted up a "20lb fish" that looks closer to 10lbs ..... who cares .... as annoying as it is to some ...... it doesn't change anything.
x2 on this post raight here,I couldn't have said it any better myself

mxer117
04-08-2014, 08:26 AM
Any one have any input on why the majority of Fisher people can't judge a Fishes weight reasonably especially when it's their fish?

Thanks.

You ride a 250X?

Sorry bout that, bud.......

But seriously, this thread is dumb. You seem like a bit of a troll. Post some pics up first before you criticize others......

pickrel pat
04-08-2014, 08:50 AM
I think Lefty proved a point by some of the peoples guesses.......lol. Good job Lefty.

RavYak
04-08-2014, 09:54 AM
My point is in all of this is people who catch fish are quick to over estimate and those who are looking at pics of a good fish are quick to under estimate.

The first fish is 39 inches never weighed it but guess it was 16 lbs, was by myself and wanted to get it back quickly.
The trout was 5.5lbs never measured the length, guess at 24-25inches

The large pike was 44inches estimated weight was 23lbs

The walleye was a complete hog caught on a red Len Thompson from shore, 9lbs 4oz...9.25lbs just over 30inches if I recall and I never caught it but I did release it :).

LC

I was darn close on the 2 pictures that had a person for reference... Fish pictures are hard to judge when you have nothing to compare with, you end up going on body shape(that first pike looked closer to 2 lbs then anything over 10 that I have ever caught).

That is why people always say to take good pictures hold the fish near your body, you can cheat and hold it out but most people can tell and then it is nearly impossible to get an accurate idea of weight. Like these 2 fish. First one was probably 10-15 lbs... Second one would have been closer to 40. You can tell which one is larger but have little idea they are that much different.

http://imageshack.us/a/img607/3461/fish1j.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img203/7287/fish4e.jpg

J D
04-08-2014, 10:37 AM
Asking a fishermen how big his was is like asking a man how big his member is

nekred
04-08-2014, 11:21 AM
op posts a pic of a fish and how happy they were to catch it and is great to see pictures of people enjoying what we all do.....

Let's look at things for a second... does it matter how big it is? Does it matter if it was caught and released or caught and consumed? Does it matter of the hook was barbless or barbed.

All that matters really is if it was caught within the law or not and if it was not then I am sure it would not be posted....

I have yet to post a picture of a harvested animal or a fish on this forum because of the nay saying....

I have a picture that I will treasure forever of me and my boy with a trout that was a very nice fish... not a record by any means that he caught on a fly he tied himself with his own hair. That he released carefully to fight another day.

It is all about the story not the length and weight. So if someone says the fish weighed a certain amount or was a certain length.... I don;t care O just love to see the picture and hear the storyu and how they enjoyed it so I can sit here and live vicariously in the moment...

So please keep posting pictures.... and to the original OP.... DILLIGAF

RavYak
04-08-2014, 01:25 PM
Judging a fishes weight is one thing. Having people on either accident or purpose overstate the weight of their fish is another.

I agree that sometimes people are go overboard on the topic but when a person posts a fish and claims something that is obviously incorrect it is hard to not comment. This shouldn't scare people away from posting pictures etc it should just get them to tell the truth or take better pictures etc in the future. I know I sure as hell am not going to let a couple internet warriors keep me from posting pictures of my nice fish...

Gust
04-08-2014, 01:31 PM
op posts a pic of a fish and how happy they were to catch it and is great to see pictures of people enjoying what we all do.....

Let's look at things for a second... does it matter how big it is? Does it matter if it was caught and released or caught and consumed? Does it matter of the hook was barbless or barbed.

All that matters really is if it was caught within the law or not and if it was not then I am sure it would not be posted....

I have yet to post a picture of a harvested animal or a fish on this forum because of the nay saying....

I have a picture that I will treasure forever of me and my boy with a trout that was a very nice fish... not a record by any means that he caught on a fly he tied himself with his own hair. That he released carefully to fight another day.

It is all about the story not the length and weight. So if someone says the fish weighed a certain amount or was a certain length.... I don;t care O just love to see the picture and hear the storyu and how they enjoyed it so I can sit here and live vicariously in the moment...

So please keep posting pictures.... and to the original OP.... DILLIGAF

The thread should be closed on nekreds post.

The story of the journey will always trump the outcome IMO.