No common courtesy!

[dbllung]

Currently sitting and attempting to fish on Winagami lake

I am the only one not this 5 mile long lake that is fishing

There is a group of guys with incredibly loud racing quads that feels the overwhelming need to race back and forth right past my tent!!

Only 10 inches of ice. So I am walking and don't have the ability to be as portable as them!! I have seen 6 pike now come close and dart off as soon as one of these respectful individuals comes ripping past my tent.

There is 5 miles of lake to rip around in and they insist on blasting around right by me. Sheesh guys what gives?

Perhaps they just don't know
More likely they just don't care!

I have managed to catch 6 so far but it could be a lot better if they just thought a second about what they are doing!

[1bluZebec]

Some people take pride in being a pos. I feel for ya and I'm sure most people on here have been there at one time or another. Too bad they wouldn't fall through the ice hey??

[linger]

It gets so frustrating when your trying to fish and some moron who has the whole lake has to roar close by were your fishing.they do it on purpose to show off there expensive toys which i might add are all on credit lol i feel your pain:)

[dbllung]

Some people just don't care or , haven't been taught any better!

I am not a confrontational type of person. But I am sure some others would light these guys up!

Makes a guy pretty cranky though!

[Habfan]

And they are saying, ( what the heck are these guys doing, putting a tent on are quad trail ) !:)

[spinN'flyfish]

feel for ya man, met with these guys with loud motors ,scares all the boatless fisherman's fish away

[barbless]

They are also there in the summer with their wake board boats. 12 miles of lake to play in and they have to be making waves around your boat while fishing. Kinda drives ya nuts....

[HuyFishin]

last week when i was fishing at lac la nonne there was a few private airplanes landing on the ice that scared the crap out of me and the fish.

[Macdrizzle]

HEY! look at me! I'm riding a quad!

Happens in Gull Lake all the time. So sick of it.

[Bushmaster]

Can't ya get a clear shot at 'em? Oops, did I say that out loud !

[dbllung]

Next time I will take my piano wire volleyball net!!!

Lol

[Walleye101]

How about stepping out of your tent and asking them why?

[dragon]

How about not complaining at all? if you want to call someone about their loud pipes go ahead but really they have every right to be there... as do the wake board boats, as to the sleds, as do the jet skis......

[Okotokian]

race back and forth right past my tent!!



How far away from your tent are we talking?

[linger]

Sounds like Dragon is one of those culprits??? trying to defend all those trouble makers.

[outdoors forever]

Sounds like Dragon is one of those culprits??? trying to defend all those trouble makers.

I agree.

Sure they have the right to be there. But they shouldn't be *****holes. Like the OP said, theres LOTS of lake. They can go somewhere else.

:mad0030:

[linger]

i agree but if they went were no one is fishing they would'nt be doing there job of being irritating not like they do it on purpose or anything :sHa_sarcasticlol:

[dbllung]

How far away from your tent are we talking?

One of them travelled past my tent at 45-50 mph at less than 15 paces (I stepped it off)

They were just trying to be superstars and only accomplished making themselves appear as donkeys !

I did step out and throw my arms up at that point but
He was already 80-90 yards away in a cloud of snow by the time I got out of my tent

I am not saying that they have no right to be there!! They have all the same rights as I do !!!!! I never questioned that!
Just use some common sense and a little courtesy when enjoying a multi use place like a 5 mile long lake

They just needed to grow up and think about the situation
That is all!

[beaver hunter]

Two words....spike belt

[dbllung]

How about stepping out of your tent and asking them why?

Not interested in starting a fight on the ice by myself with 3 strangers that MAY be drunk or worse

Not a good survival tactic in my books!!

I generally just try to live and let live, and hope for a little civility!
Doesn't always work though!

[Hunter Trav]

Just practice casting a big spoon while out fishing...if they happen to get in the way while your doing so you can test your drag on the reel at the same time...:sHa_shakeshout:

[linger]

When they tare past you at those speeds you want to hear a loud pop followed by alot of blue smoke. shut them down for a while.:sHa_sarcasticlol:

[javlin101]

Maybe drill a couple of holes where they are tearing past you and let the snow freeze up around the hole, kinda like a speed bump. Maybe they will get the hint.

[Big Sky]

How about not complaining at all? if you want to call someone about their loud pipes go ahead but really they have every right to be there... as do the wake board boats, as to the sleds, as do the jet skis......

I never understand this attitude. Why is OK to disturb other peoples' activities with yours?

How much less fun will you have if you:
a) keep your quad/sled/jetski/wake boat a few hundred yards away from people who are fishing?
b) don't blast your tunes for everyone on the lake to hear?

[fish gunner]

I never understand this attitude. Why is OK to disturb other peoples' activities with yours?

How much less fun will you have if you:
a) keep your quad/sled/jetski/wake boat a few hundred yards away from people who are fishing?
b) don't blast your tunes for everyone on the lake to hear?

Becuase the hate being ignored , is it really worth 80k if no one cares.:)

[LCCFisherman]

Thats when you approach them, and ask them about their racing quad. Model, engine size, and how much you would really like to buy one, be nice and act interested, then at the end of this encounter you hit them with the true meaning behind this exchange that they are douchbags.

FTW

[dragon]

I never understand this attitude. Why is OK to disturb other peoples' activities with yours?

How much less fun will you have if you:
a) keep your quad/sled/jetski/wake boat a few hundred yards away from people who are fishing?
b) don't blast your tunes for everyone on the lake to hear?

because they are just as much entitled to be there as someone else? I don't even own a quad but c'mon guys.

There is probably a thread on mud and snow forum saying how come fishermen always set up right where the path is, or right next to the packed snow where we like to go fast.

I bet there is a thread on the wakeboard forum that says why do the fisherman always take the calm water in the bays right where we like to wakeboard?

Just because you only like to fish in peace and quiet and on still waters doesn't mean others cant enjoy other activities out there.

[Donkey Oatey]

because they are just as much entitled to be there as someone else? I don't even own a quad but c'mon guys.

There is probably a thread on mud and snow forum saying how come fishermen always set up right where the path is, or right next to the packed snow where we like to go fast.

I bet there is a thread on the wakeboard forum that says why do the fisherman always take the calm water in the bays right where we like to wakeboard?

Just because you only like to fish in peace and quiet and on still waters doesn't mean others cant enjoy other activities out there.

DING DING

I am entitled to my entitlements going strong everywhere. Stop what you are doing so I can do what I want to do. I don't like what you do so you shouldn't be able to do it but leave my stuff alone cause it is good and moral and blah blah blah.

[LCCFisherman]

Its called respect and for the most part alberta has none.

[Jamie Black R/T]

had a guy on a piped up mountain sled make several high speed passed within 20 yards of our pop up tent a few years ago...skis 3 feet off the ground kind of passed.

I finally came out of the tent to express my displeasure with him just in time to see the thing come apart and blow the hood off...sled came to screeching halt and rider took the handlebars in the ribs...almost went right over the front.

he walked back to shore to get his quad to come tow the sled in...got stuck 80 yards off shore with the quad....i saw both machines still there a week later

karma is rare...but sweet when you get to witness it in its pure awesomeness.

[packhuntr]

I dont like company on my hunts or fishing trips, like others. We need animals and fish acting like animals and fish to enjoy our time with them, what ever fashion that may be. Guys not respecting space are not welcomed. Guys roaring around on machines like idiots are in addition to all other issues, a major safety problem. I dont want to have to burn my outdoor time responding to an incident that was driven by stupidity any more that i want some idiot losing control of his machine and running into my boat, ice shack, parked vehicle etc etc. if guys want to kill or maim themselves they should stay out of peoples line of sight and go exercise thier dangerous and suicidal tendencies where its welcomed, at the race track or out of sight somewhere. Stupid arseholes...

[Donkey Oatey]

Its called respect and for the most part alberta has none.

It's called perspective actually. Your perspective is respect towards you and you alone. But it is Albertan to b!tch and moan about it on social media :D

[Donkey Oatey]

had a guy on a piped up mountain sled make several high speed passed within 20 yards of our pop up tent a few years ago...skis 3 feet off the ground kind of passed.

I finally came out of the tent to express my displeasure with him just in time to see the thing come apart and blow the hood off...sled came to screeching halt and rider took the handlebars in the ribs...almost went right over the front.

he walked back to shore to get his quad to come tow the sled in...got stuck 80 yards off shore with the quad....i saw both machines still there a week later

karma is rare...but sweet when you get to witness it in its pure awesomeness.

Karma is great sometimes.

I am not advocating for morons but just because someone does something you don't like, as long as it is legal I say suck it up princess.

[Jamie Black R/T]

Karma is great sometimes.

I am not advocating for morons but just because someone does something you don't like, as long as it is legal I say suck it up princess.

i agree im all for people enjoying what they enjoy...i have a sled too....but i know first hand my enjoyment while riding is not effected the slightest bit by how close I get to fishing tents.

But like was stated earlier...if they dont get close nobody will know they traded their 2013 in on the newest greatest 2014....nevermind paying into the principle....they got the key its theirs! lol

[Okotokian]

One of them travelled past my tent at 45-50 mph at less than 15 paces (I stepped it off)



Nuts! Wonder if there are any charges a cop could lay, dangerous driving, public endangerment, etc.?

[nekred]

I get it!.... but where do these guys go to enjoy their power toys...

They really don't think they are a problem they just think noise is [art of the package and they don't mind why should you?

they just don't know....

I have been on both sides of the coin.... enjoying ice fishing and enjoying power sports as well....

However I try not to be a douche.... but id someone sets up an ice fishing tent right beside the main unload/load/entry/exit.... location.... well what do you expect....

If you want peace and quiet go where there are not....

[Mackinaw]

It surprises me no one asked one simple question before bashing . were they there BEFORE you. Did you happen to set your tent up near a trail that they had been running on all day or couple days.Ive seen guys pull their sled along a well run trail then set up just off it and then get ****ed because there's traffic all day.... Hard to make a comment with only one half of the story. There is fools on both sides of the road not saying OP is one.

Mack

[huntsfurfish]

It surprises me no one asked one simple question before bashing . were they there BEFORE you. Did you happen to set your tent up near a trail that they had been running on all day or couple days.Ive seen guys pull their sled along a well run trail then set up just off it and then get ****ed because there's traffic all day.... Hard to make a comment with only one half of the story. There is fools on both sides of the road not saying OP is one.

Mack

Traffic is one thing, ripping by or doing donuts and other crap nearby is another.
How is one to know that the track you followed out was part of a race track. Or that it was even them that were using it?
See it all the time. No respect from some guys with their toys. Both hard water and soft.

Couple years or so ago it got real bad out at St. Mary res. F&W/CO's asked about it and were told how bad it was there. Had a wake board boat follow me as I anchored at various spots on the lake. It was not uncommon I guess cuz they started patrolling more with seadoos and no uniform. Cleaned that sort of thing up pretty good.:sHa_shakeshout:

[Big Sky]

because they are just as much entitled to be there as someone else? .

So when you see someone fishing, you go close to them because you are 'entitled' to?

Yowzers!! :thinking-006:

[58thecat]

So when you see someone fishing, you go close to them because you are 'entitled' to?

Yowzers!! :thinking-006:

Exactly. People know exactly what they are doing but the F - you mentality runs a muck. You move to be secluded, bam bam the meathead shows up but on the other side I will have fun with them too, on a lake, heavy lure, haul back act like your landing fish etc, meatheads real up come over to your area...wow, something to try when the fish are not biting, entertaining.

Loud sleds at two a.m. -20 out...jeesh, I then go out in the day to pick up beer cans where they stop to have a break...meatheads!

[dragon]

So when you see someone fishing, you go close to them because you are 'entitled' to?

Yowzers!! :thinking-006:

I wouldn't loop 500 metres around them so they don't hear me because they want to fish in peace and quiet and I might scare the big one.

[Big Sky]

I wouldn't loop 500 metres around them so they don't hear me because they want to fish in peace and quiet and I might scare the big one.

So, how close are you entitled to approach them? Less than 500m is a bit vague.

[dbllung]

For those that have asked ....

I was not set up on a major trail, and I did not notice them when I walked the 400 yards to my fishing spot..

When they came past they "accidentally" revved their motors to a deafening pitch !!

I saw nothing accidental about what was happening. How do you accidentally roar past the only black tent in a 5 mile long lake

The entire point is missed here!!! As the title says we are all expected to enjoy our own pursuits in nature.. Just use your head and don't be unthoughtful and disrespectful to neighbours.

Fun means different things to different people. We all get that BUT there are unwritten rules that should not HAVE to be debated fiercely.

I suspect that based in the number of "devils advocates" here this problem will just continue as people don't grasp the concept of mutual respect.

It is a really sad! Next weekend I will walk further I guess!

[bubba 96]

For those that have asked ....

I was not set up on a major trail, and I did not notice them when I walked the 400 yards to my fishing spot..

When they came past they "accidentally" revved their motors to a deafening pitch !!

I saw nothing accidental about what was happening. How do you accidentally roar past the only black tent in a 5 mile long lake

The entire point is missed here!!! As the title says we are all expected to enjoy our own pursuits in nature.. Just use your head and don't be unthoughtful and disrespectful to neighbours.

Fun means different things to different people. We all get that BUT there are unwritten rules that should not HAVE to be debated fiercely.

I suspect that based in the number of "devils advocates" here this problem will just continue as people don't grasp the concept of mutual respect.

It is a really sad! Next weekend I will walk further I guess!

And they probably all drive lifted up 1 ton diesel's with the stack coming out of the box..

[d bowhunter]

it would be nice if they put a speed limit on the ice, we have it everywhere else sooner or later someone will get hurt .

[Jamie Black R/T]

it would be nice if they put a speed limit on the ice, we have it everywhere else sooner or later someone will get hurt .

agreed

we have speed limits on all paved roads and nobody ever gets hurt doing something stupid.

[SamSteele]

because they are just as much entitled to be there as someone else? I don't even own a quad but c'mon guys.

There is probably a thread on mud and snow forum saying how come fishermen always set up right where the path is, or right next to the packed snow where we like to go fast.

I bet there is a thread on the wakeboard forum that says why do the fisherman always take the calm water in the bays right where we like to wakeboard?

Just because you only like to fish in peace and quiet and on still waters doesn't mean others cant enjoy other activities out there.

As someone who fishes and wakeboards/skis/wakesurfs and spearfishes I have to say that it goes both ways. I have been fishing in a calm bay and had watersports boats setup right beside me and I have been waterskiing/wakeboarding in a calm area and had fisherman run right behind me (talking yards away directly behind me, fall and I'm dead situations) who then stop and toss anchor and get ****ed for us continuing to run the water.

I agree that there is likely no reason for those quads or sleds to be ripping right beside you on a frozen lake given the fact that the rest of the lake is all the same for a sled.

As I say to my kids, "Idiots abound and all you can change is your reaction to them."


SS

[Mackinaw]

For those that have asked ....

I was not set up on a major trail, and I did not notice them when I walked the 400 yards to my fishing spot..

When they came past they "accidentally" revved their motors to a deafening pitch !!

I saw nothing accidental about what was happening. How do you accidentally roar past the only black tent in a 5 mile long lake

The entire point is missed here!!! As the title says we are all expected to enjoy our own pursuits in nature.. Just use your head and don't be unthoughtful and disrespectful to neighbours.

Fun means different things to different people. We all get that BUT there are unwritten rules that should not HAVE to be debated fiercely.

I suspect that based in the number of "devils advocates" here this problem will just continue as people don't grasp the concept of mutual respect.

It is a really sad! Next weekend I will walk further I guess!

I don't think the point was missed at all you were unhappy with what happened .
Unfortunately the lake belongs to everyone you can't always get what you want.
There is no such thing as an unwritten rules for anything. It happens in the summer
With boats and seadoos to you just learn to adjust or go home mad. I do hope your next
Outing is a good one.

Mack

[Mackinaw]

Traffic is one thing, ripping by or doing donuts and other crap nearby is another.
How is one to know that the track you followed out was part of a race track. Or that it was even them that were using it?
See it all the time. No respect from some guys with their toys. Both hard water and soft.

Couple years or so ago it got real bad out at St. Mary res. F&W/CO's asked about it and were told how bad it was there. Had a wake board boat follow me as I anchored at various spots on the lake. It was not uncommon I guess cuz they started patrolling more with seadoos and no uniform. Cleaned that sort of thing up pretty good.:sHa_shakeshout:

Some of what you say is right hunts but have also seen fishermen set up right in the middle of an area people are running their machines...Even seen a guy on st Anne's set up his shack in the middle of an area cleared for skating what can you do its life.

Mack

[Walleye101]

I say drop the gloves and battle!!:argue2:

[Big Sky]

The thing to remember is, no matter how idiotic the behavior of some outdoorsmen is, there will always be someone on AO who will come to their defense.

[dbllung]

the thing to remember is, no matter how idiotic the behavior of some outdoorsmen is, there will always be someone on ao who will come to their defense.

bingo!

[dragon]

So, how close are you entitled to approach them? Less than 500m is a bit vague.

Close enough they can see my white oakleys!

I think the point I was trying to make. Is that I don't know what exact distance will spook the fish.. or push the decibal meter past tolerance. If you know nothing about ice fishing and have never done it then I imagine the distance is much shorter. So unless there is a law stating X distance then its open to debate.

[fargineyesore]

Some of what you say is right hunts but have also seen fishermen set up right in the middle of an area people are running their machines...Even seen a guy on st Anne's set up his shack in the middle of an area cleared for skating what can you do its life.

Mack
I quoted Mackinaw's post to make a point. You guys totally ignore situations like he brings up, and some others have, of selfish fisherman and what they do. Shows that YOU that are complaining are no better than those you complain about. You are just as guilty of the self-entitled mindset as anyone else.

[dbllung]

I quoted Mackinaw's post to make a point. You guys totally ignore situations like he brings up, and some others have, of selfish fisherman and what they do. Shows that YOU that are complaining are no better than those you complain about. You are just as guilty of the self-entitled mindset as anyone else.

Wow!!!!!! Have you even read the entire thread?

Ok you win. I am to blame for people not respecting each other in the outdoors!. How dare I even ask that people use common sense and respect each other !
How shall I bear the load of what I have done ??
Oh the horror LOL



Have at'er boys she's a free for all out there !!! No point in discussing it , just have everyone tread on everyone. That will fix it up real good! :thinking-006:

[fargineyesore]

Yes I read the entire thread. But these threads always turn into a bashing of motorized recreation.

I fish and I sled, quad, etc. I've been on the receiving end of jerks, whether they be fishermen who think they own the lake, or recreational boater or riders who don't respect others.

Point is both groups have jerks among them.

In your case sure they should have given you more space. That's what I do.

But none of those complaining about sledders, etc., will acknowledge how fishermen can be jerks too. It's always the motorized riders that are in the wrong, all the time.

People on here can't discuss any different user group than their own without tarring them all with the same brush, but heaven forbid someone does the same to them.

[huntsfurfish]

Some of what you say is right hunts but have also seen fishermen set up right in the middle of an area people are running their machines...Even seen a guy on st Anne's set up his shack in the middle of an area cleared for skating what can you do its life.

Mack

Hi Mack!
Not saying there isnt the other side of the coin. There are some fishermen/hunters/outdoorsmen that are jerks too.

Most fishermen I know(including me) seeks seclusion/isolation when possible. When I see someone fishing or using an area i maintain a good distance or go to a different spot.

Having quads/sleds/ski boats/skidoos buzz you seams to be a game to them. In my previous post I described St. Marys problem LE responded to the complaints. It is not uncommon.

But little to no respect is common now!

Or are people are just oblivious to this?

[huntsfurfish]

Yes I read the entire thread. But these threads always turn into a bashing of motorized recreation.

I fish and I sled, quad, etc. I've been on the receiving end of jerks, whether they be fishermen who think they own the lake, or recreational boater or riders who don't respect others.

Point is both groups have jerks among them.

In your case sure they should have given you more space. That's what I do.

But none of those complaining about sledders, etc., will acknowledge how fishermen can be jerks too. It's always the motorized riders that are in the wrong, all the time.

People on here can't discuss any different user group than their own without tarring them all with the same brush, but heaven forbid someone does the same to them.

Bashing is deserved.:)

Fishermen will go to a familiar spot and fish it. Not saying there are not jerk fishermen. But if no one is on the spot they will probably set up. Or in the case of trolling, moving slowly.
Snowmobiles/quads/ski boats/skidoos etc. are very mobile and using a greater portion of the lake.
Please go around at a safe distance and speed.:) To much to ask?

[Big Sky]

Most fishermen I know(including me) seeks seclusion/isolation when possible. When I see someone fishing or using an area i maintain a good distance or go to a different spot.

Agree. I can't imagine one of my friends saying "Hey, there's a bunch of guys running their machines over there. How about we set up in that spot?"

Even harder to imagine would be me saying, "Sounds like a good idea Bob!!"

[trainerdave]

Can one skeet shoot on the ice? I suppose that would be a bit more disturbing than sleds...never mind. Too bad about the noise...

[huntsfurfish]

Agree. I can't imagine one of my friends saying "Hey, there's a bunch of guys running their machines over there. How about we set up in that spot?"

Even harder to imagine would be me saying, "Sounds like a good idea Bob!!"

When you put it that way, it is hard to imagine. lol

[fargineyesore]

Sorry to disagree, but just last year I had many instances where I was pulling a water skier, using a certain part of the lake because it was a bit calmer there, and had fishermen go right to the area and drop anchor, right where I was running, right in the way. They couldn't have been more in the way. Also had fishermen troll right in front of me in many cases, AND I WAS THERE LONG BEFORE THEY WERE!

So your contention that most fishermen will not do this is BS. I've seen otherwise, many times. I've had to give them the "WTF" hand signals also, but do you think they got the hint, even once? No. But you guys absolutely REFUSE to believe it or acknowledge it.

If someone runs by you, maybe its because they are sick of the common fishermen's attitude of "I own the lake".

[Big Sky]

Please go around at a safe distance and speed.:) To much to ask?

It shouldn't be.

Dbllung says he was the only guy fishing on the lake. The amount of area he is wanting would be much smaller than the pointy end of the pin. The area of Winigami is about 46.7 sq km. By my calculation he is wanting less than a 10 thousandth of a percent of the lake.

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj541/jdhill19/5ea8732a-88ab-4cde-b093-62636ab9e61b_zps9228c182.jpg

Perhaps the spot shouldn't be labeled 'ice fishing hot spot'. Maybe it should be labeled "Spot where I'm going to run my quad to show that entitled *-**** that the lake belongs to everybody and I can go where I want." :)

[huntsfurfish]

Sorry to disagree, but just last year I had many instances where I was pulling a water skier, using a certain part of the lake because it was a bit calmer there, and had fishermen go right to the area and drop anchor, right where I was running, right in the way. They couldn't have been more in the way. Also had fishermen troll right in front of me in many cases, AND I WAS THERE LONG BEFORE THEY WERE!

So your contention that most fishermen will not do this is BS. I've seen otherwise, many times. I've had to give them the "WTF" hand signals also, but do you think they got the hint, even once? No. But you guys absolutely REFUSE to believe it or acknowledge it.

If someone runs by you, maybe its because they are sick of the common fishermen's attitude of "I own the lake".

Disagree all you want. Were you there when and where they anchored:sHa_sarcasticlol:

Like I said, fishermen will go to a spot where they caught fish. Most of the time shore related. So you were on the spot when they anchored?

Hmmm, fisherman using one little spot, and you are using an area of the lake. Hmmm.

Maybe fisherman was looking for calmer water too.hmmm.

Dont be mad at fishermen, be mad at yourself.:)


"Most fishermen will not is BS"?

Guess it is the equivalent of all quad/snowmobile/ski and wake boats/seadoo owners are guilty of Not having common courtesty etc.

wow.

edit: fishermen were here long before ski boats. lol:sHa_sarcasticlol:

[EZM]

All we are talking about is common sense and courtesy ..... that's it ..... it goes both ways .....


I've had a guy and his wife come to within 20ft of me fishing at a lake where the wife cast a jig that hit me in the head and bounced off my gunnel on an errant cast ....... I had a snow machines rip past us at 30 feet while we had little kids running around between tents in the ice fishing camp ....... I saw guys tie up their boats at the boat launch dock and leave to get an ice cream while others waited to launch ..... the list goes on .....

People just need to grab a brain and use some common respect and courtesy ..... there is no need for anyone ripping by you at 50 mph on a lake that wide open.

Some of these incidents are dangerous and, quite frankly, deserve fines in my opinion.

All of our phone devices have cameras and video - one day someone is going to get charged and fined for being a moron ....... and will they deserve it.

In the meantime ....... I will do my part and give people reasonable room and privacy and the same courtesy I would expect. That's all I can do.

[shadowdog]

That's it...... Common Courtesy....its getting to be a thing of the past.
There's morons everywhere, even a few on here.... doesn't matter what you do there's always someone there ruining your enjoyment. (from having game cameras and tree stands stole to people setting up right on top of you) If people would just think how they would feel it the roles were reversed maybe they wouldn't do it.
Fishermen fish structure, you don't need that for running your boats or sleds, the guy in the ice tent doesn't give a sh*t about your $20,000 sled that you just purchased, as you don't care about his new rod in his shack......show some respect for your fellow outdoorsmen!

[dbllung]

That's it...... Common Courtesy....its getting to be a thing of the past.
There's morons everywhere, even a few on here.... doesn't matter what you do there's always someone there ruining your enjoyment. (from having game cameras and tree stands stole to people setting up right on top of you) If people would just think how they would feel it the roles were reversed maybe they wouldn't do it.
Fishermen fish structure, you don't need that for running your boats or sleds, the guy in the ice tent doesn't give a sh*t about your $20,000 sled that you just purchased, as you don't care about his new rod in his shack......show some respect for your fellow outdoorsmen!


Amen bruther
Seems simple enough

[fargineyesore]

That's it...... Common Courtesy....its getting to be a thing of the past.
There's morons everywhere, even a few on here.... doesn't matter what you do there's always someone there ruining your enjoyment. (from having game cameras and tree stands stole to people setting up right on top of you) If people would just think how they would feel it the roles were reversed maybe they wouldn't do it.
Fishermen fish structure, you don't need that for running your boats or sleds, the guy in the ice tent doesn't give a sh*t about your $20,000 sled that you just purchased, as you don't care about his new rod in his shack......show some respect for your fellow outdoorsmen!
May you guys are thick. For water skiiing, it is much better in calm water. So if the wind is blowing from the SE, and I, BEFORE there are any other boats in the area, choose an area near enough to the SE shoreline to find that calmer water, should I just move to the rough water if some guy decides he wants to come and anchor right in the area I am pulling a skier in? What makes him more important than me? That's the attitude you guys have, you claim to be the courteous types, but in all reality, you don't give two ****s about anyone but yourselves.

[dbllung]

May you guys are thick. For water skiiing, it is much better in calm water. So if the wind is blowing from the SE, and I, BEFORE there are any other boats in the area, choose an area near enough to the SE shoreline to find that calmer water, should I just move to the rough water if some guy decides he wants to come and anchor right in the area I am pulling a skier in? What makes him more important than me? That's the attitude you guys have, you claim to be the courteous types, but in all reality, you don't give two ****s about anyone but yourselves.

Nope. I have read the comments here. No one is saying that if you are there first you should move to make room for fishermen. Not sure where YOU conjured that idea from??

Show me one post that says you should move if you were there first!

The point is to respect others in the outdoors....and the op referred to quadders but can be extended to all users of the resource!

[linger]

Ok when you really think about it.real fisherman are out at the lake at around
between seven and nine am as you sun worshippers with your big power boats don't get your butts out of bed and out to the lake till after eleven and start tearing up the lake so the fishing peoples day is pretty much shot and it dosen't matter if you try and move as they will fallow you all over the lake. who is in the wrong here:thinking-006:

[fargineyesore]

Look at the post I quoted, it's right there. I don't need to be in a certain area because I have the whole lake, who cares if I'm trying to use a portion that is somewhat calm, I don't need to. THAT's the attitude I'm talking about right there.

There are selfish, jerk people in all pursuits, INCLUDING fishermen.

[fargineyesore]

Anyway, I don't want to argue with anyone about this anymore, Merry Xmas to you all and have a great holiday, and happy fishing!

[Big Sky]

So if the wind is blowing from the SE, and I, BEFORE there are any other boats in the area, choose an area near enough to the SE shoreline to find that calmer water, should I just move to the rough water if some guy decides he wants to come and anchor right in the area I am pulling a skier in?

So if a fisherman also wanted to escape the wind, how far from your starting point should they be before they are disturbing your skiing?

[huntsfurfish]

So if a fisherman also wanted to escape the wind, how far from your starting point should they be before they are disturbing your skiing?

Good question

[NewGuard84]

People these days seem to take pride in being degenerates. Almost like it should be admirable to show no courtesy because one is not afraid of what anyone else may say or do in response. That mentality explains an embarrassing amount of male behaviour. "Whatever, I'm doing it"

Reminds me of the winner who drove up beside our truck, very near where we had a ground stand, then drove off.... To leave so we thought.....

But actually drove around to the opposing side of the valley and set up watching the same field from the the opposing vantage point..... rifle and field of view towards us! :angry3:

I was watching very carefully for a scoping as I stood up and walked away....

Must be the same guy who found me in a mall parking lot with my blinker on waiting for a vehicle to vacate a parking spot and stopped, put his blinker on and told me he was taking the spot.... :angry3::angry3::angry3:

[nekred]

At our home lake we had a water ski slalom course setup with signs etc. and often before we could use it we had to politely ask fishermen to please move elsewhere so we could use it. When it was setup we had approval from everyone that it was located in best place to create least amount of problems for fishermen....

Also had issues with fishermen who would go out onto our cleared ice racing track and drill holes because then they did not have to shovel snow to get to the ice!.... and then get miffed when we asked them to move and not do that anymore....

ore we would clear another track and then they would complain about the noise....

We also would create a big skating rink and we would often come down and find that fishermen have decided to fish right in the middle of it....

So the knife cuts both ways.....

[barbless]

So with miles of lake and all that open space, be it on hard water or open water or near your random camp site, would it be too much to ask to slow down a bit when passing by? We as adults have taught our friends, teenagers and younger kids to do this (in whatever recreation sport they do) to try and show some respect for others and their space (whether they got there before you or after you). Have always got the good wave of appreciation and not the full flock of flip the bird wave. Those others are out there and always will be. Sad to say, but true. Let's move on. There's other things to talk about, like, why won't Santa buy me my own private lake so this won't happen? I would like BEARSPAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL:)

[338Bluff]

At our home lake we had a water ski slalom course setup with signs etc. and often before we could use it we had to politely ask fishermen to please move elsewhere so we could use it. When it was setup we had approval from everyone that it was located in best place to create least amount of problems for fishermen....

Also had issues with fishermen who would go out onto our cleared ice racing track and drill holes because then they did not have to shovel snow to get to the ice!.... and then get miffed when we asked them to move and not do that anymore....

ore we would clear another track and then they would complain about the noise....

We also would create a big skating rink and we would often come down and find that fishermen have decided to fish right in the middle of it....

So the knife cuts both ways.....

Public Lake? What if I went out to Gull a few years back and found someone had put a quad/ice racing track right on the spot I have fished for at least 30 years. I could move, but who is right? Its PUBLIC.

You had approval from everyone? Cottage owners association? Municipality? Did you ask me? Nope.

[burbotman]

Public Lake? What if I went out to Gull a few years back and found someone had put a quad/ice racing track right on the spot I have fished for at least 30 years. I could move, but who is right? Its PUBLIC.

You had approval from everyone? Cottage owners association? Municipality? Did you ask me? Nope.

Kinda like tree stands on crown land. Person pops up a stand and it becomes their spot........

Kinda like a person puts their permanent ice shack on a point and it becomes their spot........

public land and waters are shared by all, not owned by one. Common courtesy seems to a skill not common sense these days

[Mackinaw]

Hi Mack!
Not saying there isnt the other side of the coin. There are some fishermen/hunters/outdoorsmen that are jerks too.

Most fishermen I know(including me) seeks seclusion/isolation when possible. When I see someone fishing or using an area i maintain a good distance or go to a different spot.

Having quads/sleds/ski boats/skidoos buzz you seams to be a game to them. In my previous post I described St. Marys problem LE responded to the complaints. It is not uncommon.

But little to no respect is common now!

Or are people are just oblivious to this?

There seems to be very little respect between people now in the outdoors. It was definitely better years ago but back then you only seen 1-2 snow machines all season
Now with more machines and people traveling farther with them we see hundreds a day.
People now both fishermen and sledders-quaders all feel they have right to do what they want when they want. I have a quad that I use for fishing so I can get away from the groups even then it don't always work so I just hope for the best. Maybe we should do an odd even day system...jk...

Mack

[nekred]

Public Lake? What if I went out to Gull a few years back and found someone had put a quad/ice racing track right on the spot I have fished for at least 30 years. I could move, but who is right? Its PUBLIC.

You had approval from everyone? Cottage owners association? Municipality? Did you ask me? Nope.

I love the 30 year argument!....

Another situation a certain piece of land came up for sale and we bought it.... everyone assumed it was crown but it was not, just the old owner did not post it or anything. Then after we bought it and posted it so many po'd people felt they had a right to trespass as they have been doing it for 30 years!....

We had approval from who we needed approval from..... the government agency in charge.... besides there was no property owners nearby and the shore was crown land!....

now just saying if you setup an ice fishing tent on or near an ice racing track then get po'd about the discourtesy of the motor enthusiasts creating noise....

now sitting on a lake all alone and having someone race 15 feet beside your shack when there are other options is a discourteous....

another somewhat relevant question we have a lady where I live that complains about the noise from helicopters and planes.... We live near an airport!.....

or the people who complain about firearm noise near sggc.....

or.... in general all the self centred idiots who feel it is their right to be discourteous because they can be....and their rights are more important than others...

common sense will never be common because my common sense is your nonsense.... and vice versa!....

[Crusty]

Common courtesy is all this is about. There are so many scenario's. I am ice or anchored fishing away and a water skier or sledder goes ripping by, bad. Sledder or skier ripping around the lake, they stop for a break, fuel, lunch etc. I show up where they "were" playing. Twenty minutes later they take the same route and i am in the way? They stopped, now it's my area. I show up and want to fish my favorite bay but sledders or skiers are using that area. They were there first i go somewhere else. First come, first served. You can't win them all. Stay clear of someone if you will interfere in a negative way. Some folks don't have a clue or are oblivious to their interference though.

:snapoutofit::angry3:

[dragon]

So if a fisherman also wanted to escape the wind, how far from your starting point should they be before they are disturbing your skiing?

Not close enough to see his white oakleys

[Wild&Free]

I wish more children(now adults) we're raised wearing hand me downs and second hand stuff and HAD to share what they had with others to have fun...

[Mackinaw]

I wish more children(now adults) we're raised wearing hand me downs and second hand stuff and HAD to share what they had with others to have fun...

I was thats why I want it all to my self.....tired of sharing.....lol

Mack

[outdoors forever]

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[riderprider]

Common courtesy died in a head on collision with common sense. Idiots used to be the exception now it seems like they are the rule.