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sheep hunter
03-04-2007, 09:21 PM
Hey Boys...Tuc,walleyes, Oko.
Rather than highjacking every other thread, here's one just for you to flame me. Have at 'er boys and then this board can get back to other more important outdoor topics in the other threads.
sheep hunter
03-04-2007, 09:57 PM
Ya, the appeal period for the goverment ended on Feb23 and they have decided not to appeal so the issue is now done as far as the courts are concerned.
walleyes
03-04-2007, 09:58 PM
K,,, I'll be the first to go,,
Sheep you are a great guy and a very intelligent guy when it comes to the outdoors and hunting issues,, but at the same time you are very critical of other peoples views and most of the times you are the first one on the board to start calling people down and calling names..
I know that I am no better a lot of the times but if you were to read back on most of the posts you wright and really read them you might be surprised.. You create a lot of controversy on this board,, we all know what you do for a living and like I said before I have a lot of respect for any man that can leave main stream work and make a living at something we all love, the great outdoors,, but sheep you have a poor attitude towards the people that put bread on you're table. I am sorry to say but my two sons looked up to you for years as a great outdoorsman,, they read you're articles in Alberta Outdoorsman and they looked up to you,, but lately we got into something new,, the web site it's something new in our house ) and I have to tell you T.J. they are very disappointed in you're attitude towards people,, it's like its you're way or leave.. I know I give you grief a lot,, but it is out of disappointment not beliefs.. I think we could and should get along for the betterment of the sport,, because I take pride in my OUTDOORSMANSHIP and I think you could learn how to also if you give it a chance...
Mackaylake
03-04-2007, 10:33 PM
I have been told there was media at the AFGA AGM. But, yet there is nothing to be found on the status of the IMHA. What gives?
sheep hunter
03-04-2007, 10:38 PM
Not sure man...there was a tv crew there and a couple newspapers. Maybe just looking in the wrong places. It will take a while to come out in the monthly publications like AO as they are published several weeks a head of time. I'm sure there will be something in the next AO. You could PM Rob and ask him. You could always fire a letter off to Minister Morton for clarification if you care to. He was pretty specific in his speech.
sheep hunter
03-04-2007, 10:42 PM
I think your answer lies with Minister Morton mackay so I respectfully disagree with you. Give his office a call and you will find the answers you seek.
sheep hunter
03-04-2007, 10:43 PM
Sorry if I don't reply to all the PMs tonight but I've reached my limit for the day. I'll reply tomorrow when EZ board allows me to or if I haven't answered, feel free to e-mail me directly at sheephunter@(nospam)shaw.ca.
Rob Miskosky
03-04-2007, 10:45 PM
Struthers and Waugh both have very good columns on the IMHA in the March issue which is on the stands now.
Waugh interviews some prominent players and Struthers sat through the entire Kip Kelley appeal.
baretrax
03-04-2007, 11:11 PM
Sheep -although I never got involved in the threads that had you heated up, I have to say that I agree with the sentiments put forth by walleyes. I come to this conclusion just by reading the threads. Take it for what it is worth. I dont know you except through your columns, and you dont know me at all, but to an average guy, you came off as pretty arrogant. IMHO, although you never directly called any member names, the innuendos were there. Its not a bad thing to have strong convictions about what you believe in, its all in the delivery that gets put forth to the rest of the guys in here. Just my 2 cents.....................
sheep hunter
03-04-2007, 11:18 PM
Walleyes, I'll plead guilty to being very passionate about the outdoors, hunting, shooting and fishing but if you notice one thing, I never jump into debates I don't have extensive knowledge of. That's why I stay out of many many debates. The other thing you'll notice is that even if things do get heated, I don't hijack a thread with a bunch of personal slags. I stay on topic. I might get passionate about disagreeing with someone's thoughts but I'm always willing to shake hands later. It seems there are a few people on this board that just have to jump into debates and speak up regardless of the fact they don't have clue what they are talking about and don't know a great deal of the facts. That's what frustrates me. I'm always willing to listen to informed opinion but when an uniformed one tries to hijack a thread, sorry, if I know something about the topic and it could have a negative impact on our shooting and hunting sports then ya, I can't help myself from speaking up.
Too many people on here don't read posts...they read what they want it to say and end up putting words in people's mouths and attributing actions to them that they never took. The Pyra thread was a classic example. I never once stood up for or tried to justify the actions of those involved yet I was repeatedly accused of it. It's hard to bring facts into many of these debates because many just aren't interested in them. They want to make assumptions and accusations instead.
Ask my opinion nicely and you'll get a nice answer. Get in my face and I'll get in yours.
Mackaylake
03-04-2007, 11:20 PM
This is why I asked the question in my above post. I was told I was making the topic assinine last week. Just because I was not agreeing with sheep. But, still there is no clear answer to my question. ( I will read the columns mentioned)
Okotokian
03-05-2007, 10:16 AM
Rather than highjacking every other thread, here's one just for you to flame me. Have at 'er boys and then this board can get back to other more important outdoor topics in the other threads.
Thought we had gotten past this. Sorry if I don't take you up on your invite...
sheep hunter
03-05-2007, 01:43 PM
Okay by me Oko!
osterb
03-05-2007, 03:23 PM
I like guns of all sorts. You don't need to like the kinds of guns I like. I think antique's are useless things unless you're collecting.
If you believe any kind of gun should be removed from civillian ownership I think you're an ignorant, idiotic individual that deserves to have your possessions taken away.
Okotokian
03-05-2007, 04:18 PM
If you believe any kind of gun should be removed from civillian ownership I think you're an ignorant, idiotic individual that deserves to have your possessions taken away.
Well, I'm not in favour of civilian ownership of, say, a C6 so I guess that makes me one of those...
Unless you mean ownership of any PRESENTLY legal firearm, then I'm with you (except for the name-calling part).
shotgun
03-05-2007, 04:47 PM
"Presently legal" is a dangerous term. So next week the firearms you do own are no longer "presently legal" then what? Where is the line?
Sorry won't hijacking sheep bashing thread anymore.
sheep hunter
03-05-2007, 06:29 PM
Sorry won't hijacking sheep bashing thread anymore.
Thanks! I think...lol :eek :eek :eek
BigBullAdventures
03-05-2007, 06:49 PM
Wow TJ, I hope you got your Nomex camo suit on!
BigBull
sheep hunter
03-05-2007, 06:57 PM
LMAO big bull. Hey, how's that pup of yours doing? We were just talking about him a couple nights ago!
BigBullAdventures
03-05-2007, 07:02 PM
Fitz is great! Turning out to be an awsome dog. Hasn't chewed up to many things yet, and is doing very well with training. Lots of laughs.
I'll try to keep myself out of reach from the flames around here.
BigBull
Re: Flame Awa
03-06-2007, 11:53 AM
Big bull u havn't done anything to feed the fire, so no worry's. I side with walleye's. I've lost alot of respect for sheep since i started reading this forum. I never new people could get that full of themselves. :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
TJ, I'm not sure that I would have taken the approach that you have and created an opportunity for people to take their shots. You're a braver man than me. I can see though that it is a result of frustration.
Personal attacks against you however are going beyond what you have given out. I find the pack behaviour of some to be distasteful, to say the least. If the passion that you've directed at some indidvuals is taken too much to heart by some, I say too bad. Most of us don't know each other in person and if you were to make a negative comment against me I would take it with a grain of salt. For the most part we are levelling comments against a message board name and persona. You've chosen to maintain the same board name despite the fact that just about everyone knows the person behind your Sheephunter name. I respect that.
Obviously you have deep convictions and know of what side of the fence in which you stand but at no time have I seen you use racist, sexist or bigoted comments even in very controversial issues. I wouldn't hesitate to walk across the room to buy you a beer.
sheep hunter
03-06-2007, 02:06 PM
Thanks M70. The starting of this thread was not done out of bravery but in an attempt to clean up the board a bit. It seemed that there were a number of people that were intent on taking unprovoked shots at me so rather than have them hijack every thread on the board as was happening, I just decided to give them a place to do it that wouldn't distract from the quality information being shared on the remainder of the board. This is a great site and I felt somehow responsible for the downhill slide it was on, so I decided to paint a big red bulleye on myself and deflect the fire from other important threads.
I bear no ill-will to anyone on this board and have never undertaken unprovoked attacks on anyone. Sometimes I do get too passionate about what I believe in and sometimes when people get in my face, I get in theirs but at the end of the day, all I care about in protecting our valuable resources and opportunities. If taking unprovoked attacks on me makes some people feel better about themselves, then I say go for it. As for you M70, I'd be pleased to share a beer with you any time.
osterb
03-06-2007, 02:31 PM
Well, I'm not in favour of civilian ownership of, say, a C6 so I guess that makes me one of those...
You know what I meant. Roll back the laws pre 90 and I'd be happy. I'd be really happy if we did the U.S style registered transferable mg thing.
FisherPotch
03-06-2007, 02:32 PM
Wow. Very impressive sheep. I've never realy goten into any long term debates with u, but I'll willingly admit I wanted to. The fact that u keep your name as sheep hunter is very respectable and it shows that ur not afraid of a good debate. I think it's cool that i can post on a site and hold a conversation with a guy that tought me advanced jigging tactics and drop shotting without ever meeting me.
I'll also willing admit that i'm not as fond of you as I was when I wasn't on this forum. The pyra thread choked me up, mainly cause u wouldn't provide an opinion on that particular case. No matter the scenario I will always offer my opinion, and I can't idolize someone who wont. But i do understand 100% why u wanted to keep neautral.
The bullseye thing is kinda funny. I like the drama so I wouldn't call it a downhill slide, more like livening things up. I'd take it as a compliment that all these guys want to get into it with you. I know I envy what u do and i'm sure they do too.
Cheers,
Potch
sheep hunter
03-06-2007, 03:24 PM
I've lost alot of respect for sheep since i started reading this forum.
Oh really....how long you been reading Cranky...never seen your name before or could you be one of those guys that posts under multiple names just to stir the pot? Anyhow, thanks for posting here and not hijacking another thread.
Okotokian
03-06-2007, 03:35 PM
You know what I meant. Roll back the laws pre 90 and I'd be happy. I'd be really happy if we did the U.S style registered transferable mg thing.
I think we are on the same page osterb. That's why I added the part asking if you meant current gun laws.
As for early 90's regulation, I can't comment. I wasn't a gun owner in the early 90's and pretty unaware of the laws then. Not sure what was allowed then that isn't now.
sheep hunter
03-06-2007, 03:50 PM
Het potch, I had plenty of opinions on the Pyra thing but just felt a public forumn wasn't the place to discuss them. I've never jumped on any of the "let's lynch someone in public" threads so it wasn't just because I knew the Pyras that I refrianed. I just don't believe in doing that. For those who did, that's their right but I found it quite comical how I was labeled a Pyra supporter when I never said any such thing and wasn't. If sticking to my convictions of not discussing people's personal lives on a public forumn caused you to lose respect for me...oh well...it's who I am and that's a belief I'm not willing to give up.
Feel free to jump into a debate with me any day. I always enjoy hearing a fellow sportman's thoughts!
FisherPotch
03-06-2007, 04:16 PM
Lol. Funny how u started a thread for lynching you! I hope it doesn't turn into just that.
I don't think I lost respect. Because I do think you deserve respect. I'd say less fond. Mainly because you were pushing for the topic to be dropped. You didn't state it quite like that, I don't mean to put words in your mouth. But that is how the tone you developed came across as i read the posts. I for one cannot turn my blind eye to the fact that my opinion differed from the judges on a few points. But I'm not in the public eye though. So i guess that makes me a little more willing to hop on the lynchings. On this site I'm anonamous and that makes our scenarios much different.
Cheers,
Potch
sheep hunter
03-06-2007, 04:41 PM
"On this site I'm anonamous and that makes our scenarios much different."
Not at all my friend...just difference of opinion and nothing wrong with that. If I was anonymous on this site I'd still have the same beliefs. Just who I am.
FisherPotch
03-06-2007, 04:54 PM
Would you agree that if people didn't know who u are that you could voice your opinion more publicly? Without any backlash do to the fact that you'd be anonymous.
sheep hunter
03-06-2007, 05:05 PM
Hey, I voice my opinion publically when I have one...lol Just ask a few of the guys on here. :lol
Never been afraid to speak my piece about our resources and our passions. It's got me in trouble before and likely will again but it is something I am very passionate about and not afraid to speak about. I'm sure Rob shudders many months when I send my AO column in but to his credit he publishes them as is.
FiveO
03-06-2007, 05:39 PM
Keep telling it like it is.
Alot of folks put lipstick on a topic but as the saying goes you can put lipstick on a pig but its still a pig.
Keep up the good work.
Andrzej77
03-06-2007, 05:40 PM
I like to read Outdoor related topics on this board but once you guys start personal debates I JUST LEAVE those posts and I am amazed how much time is wasted....It is like watching ads on hunting shaws...
Andrew
sheep hunter
03-06-2007, 05:51 PM
Good anology!!!!! :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
FisherPotch
03-06-2007, 06:16 PM
I like the fact that AO publishes your columns raw n uncut.
Considering how this thread started we sure got off topic here. Lol were supposed to sheep bashing!!:rollin
sheep hunter
03-06-2007, 06:18 PM
Crap...another hijacked thread...lol
Tucumseh
03-06-2007, 06:59 PM
Would you agree that if people didn't know who u are that you could voice your opinion more publicly? Without any backlash do to the fact that you'd be anonymous.
I got to laugh at that one....Heeee Heečs just a feller with a hole in his azz like you and I. And he has no problem voicing his opinion, right or wrong...
There, the threads back on topic!:rolleyes
sheep hunter
03-06-2007, 08:03 PM
Heeee Heečs just a feller with a hole in his azz like you and I.
Couldn't agree with you more Tuc...thanks for pointing that out and for bringing the thread back on topic.
osterb
03-06-2007, 09:59 PM
As for early 90's regulation, I can't comment. I wasn't a gun owner in the early 90's and pretty unaware of the laws then. Not sure what was allowed then that isn't now.
Essentially a few militaristic rifles. HK series rifles (91-93) FN fal's, Steyr aug ar180 etc.
Tree Guy
03-06-2007, 10:12 PM
Hey Sheep. I was looking through some of the bio's on some of the registered users, and was suprised at the ages. Some of the people we respond to are pretty young (age 16 being the youngest). It just made me feel a little sick in regards to how the, 'Black Guns/Assult Rifles thread ended up, and we are all to blame. There's kids out there looking to us for our help and opinions as experienced guys they look up to, and I can only imagine how disheartening it must be to (general reference, to no one specific), to be called names and told that they were stupid, idiotic, assinine, etc, by people they look(ed) up too. For all we know, guys like tuc, oko and walleyes could be these kids who are now disillusioned and may leave our sport behind forever.
I have the luxury of being not know or connected to anyone, however, you do not. Please try to remember that sometimes. Excellent typing skills can sometimes hurt us all! lol
sheep hunter
03-06-2007, 10:13 PM
Tuc and walleyes are much older than 16 Tree.....Oko I don't know.
No offence Tree but you do try to speak for too many people on this site. Speak for yourself and quit trying to be the mediator and quit putting words in other people's mouths. I'm sure you have lots to contribute but worry about your own affairs and not those of everyone else.
Re: Question
03-06-2007, 11:03 PM
Put me down as one of those for whom Tree speaks. Excellent words of advice. Zumbo just lost his job for his thoughtless typing skills. I don't know who was the latest barb at the end of sheeps keyboard but as long as he is allowed to post on this board they won't be the last. M70 said sheep was brave for putting this thread up - I see it merely as a further display of his arrogant and aggressive behavior which he continues to display. Too bad.
BrownBear416
03-06-2007, 11:04 PM
Why do we have to fight about everything...
>:
Tucumseh
03-06-2007, 11:22 PM
Gheez sheep, you asked for it and again your getting it. Too bad some cant see the forest for the trees.
Keep up the good work buddy, Im sure you are the only person hurting your reputation.
P.S. are we still on trackÉ;)
sheep hunter
03-06-2007, 11:30 PM
Huh? You still ****ed off cause I didn't fawn all over you that time we met Tuc. Geeze man, time to take that chip off your shoulder. Thought we handled this all in private but I guess you weren't getting enough attention there. Next time we meet how bout I give you a big hug and we can sing Kumbaya together all will be well in Tuc land! Didn't like my honestly in my PM Tuc?
Tree Guy
03-06-2007, 11:33 PM
Sheep, I wasn't trying to speak for anyone but myself. Iwas just trying to respond to your thread in a mature and respectful manner.
If Iwas a young kid participating in a discussion with people that I respected and looked up to, I would feel a little bit disheartened with being put down, called names or told that my opinion was assinine.
Sheep, I haven't put my professional reputation on the line here, you have. I feel that the threads loose credibility, when maturity is lost and anger takes over. That's all.
Tucumseh
03-07-2007, 12:06 AM
Huh? You still ****ed off cause I didn't fawn all over you that time we met Tuc. Geeze man, time to take that chip off your shoulder. Thought we handled this all in private but I guess you weren't getting enough attention there. Next time we meet how bout I give you a big hug and we can sing Kumbaya together all will be well in Tuc land! Didn't like my honestly in my PM Tuc?
Ok Sheep, if you want to get personal I will tell my side of the story............................................. ..................
Thats right about 3 years ago I stepped into the office at the Calgary Sportsman Show to say hello to TJ. I said, hi, you must be TJ, I am Tuc from the Outdoorsmen forum (better know as Ron _ _ _ _ _ ) The guy never moved, he continued to lean against the wall, looked at me like I had two heads and never uttered a word. Talk about feeling uncomfortable.... I politely excused myself and said I better get back to work. (was running a petition for Rob) I thought to myself, what an unfriendly guy, Ill never go out of my way to speak to him again, nor have I, nor will I ever in the future.
I hope the mods dont shut this one down. After all Sheep started it and the name of the thread is ..Flame Away Boys... I do hope we keep the thread on track! :)
P.S.
Sheep let me remind you of something. You pounced on me for saying what I said in public. In our PMs I appoligized for that and told you I should have put it in your EZinbox. Now you take my private message and make it public. Id have to say, thats the pot calling the kettle, BLACK AZZ, wouldnt you agree. I also have another word for it but I will not type it here....Im sure you can figure it out.
Keep up the good work TJ...Im totally amazed at your brilliance.
sheep hunter
03-07-2007, 12:21 AM
Tuc you were the one that brought this back to the public, I was happy to let it die in private.
On the other matter, that's not quite how I remember things Tuc but it was a few years ago. I remember the fact that I was working at the show, actually for the show and you had been asked not to walk around the show with the petition and were subsequently asked to leave the show. I remember you being cocky and paying no attention to the requests of the show management. I remember you being a real embarassment for outdoorsmen. That might be why I didn't fawn all over you but I will guarantee that I never ignored you and that I was never rude to you. Sorry if we didn't become best buddies but I wasn't about to pretend I liked you when you were acting with so little respect.
That wasn't a "wow, he has two heads" look, it was a "wow, I can't believe how rude and inconsiderate this guy is being in my place of business." look. I think it was shortly thereafter that you were kicked out of the show!
That's how I recall our first meeting.
Mackaylake
03-07-2007, 02:25 AM
Well, I must say, Tuc and I have very seldom seen eye to eye. But I sure see where he is coming from on this topic. I only knew Sheep as an outdoors writer before this forum. Now I know him as an arrogant, rude , my way or the hiway, jerk that writes about the outdoors. Your reputation is sure taking a plunge. Maybe you should read through your post's as a third person (I know that's tough to do) but you just might see what all the flamer's are talking about.
bigbore
03-07-2007, 05:36 AM
only on AO......tune in next week
Tuc
03-07-2007, 06:38 AM
Huh? You still ****ed off cause I didn't fawn all over you that time we met TucPoor tuc sounds like his feelings are hurt.
Geeze man, time to take that chip off your shoulder.That is a tuff one when he is full of arogance.
That's not quite how I remember things Tuc but it was a few years ago. I remember the fact that I was working at the show, actually for the show and you had been asked not to walk around the show with the petition and were subsequently asked to leave the show. I remember you being cocky and paying no attention to the requests of the show management.:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :lol :lol I would of loved to see that dont blame anyone for not FAWNING over tuc
That wasn't a "wow, he has two heads" look, it was a "wow, I can't believe how rude and inconsiderate this guy is being in my place of business." look. I think it was shortly thereafter that you were kicked out of the show!sounds to me tuc had it comeing great reading there sheephunter thanks for starting my day out right.:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin
sheep hunter
03-07-2007, 09:57 AM
M70 said sheep was brave for putting this thread up - I see it merely as a further display of his arrogant and aggressive behavior which he continues to display. Too bad.
It wasn't bravery or arrogance alta. Things were getting to a point on this site where many posts were being hijacked by those that wanted to take shots at me. Many members and myself included thought it was detracting from the quality information that is so often shared on this board. My only intent of putting up this thread was to help clean up the board and give those that are so intent at taking unprovoked attacks at me a venue to do so. Guess if that sounds arrogant so be it but I did it with the best of intentions and in truth, the rest of the board is pretty clean right now and for people that are tired of reading the crap, they only have to skip over one thread right now.
Tucumseh
03-07-2007, 12:45 PM
TJ let me refresh your memory. Along with your arrogance and greater than thou attitude, I see you have a tendancy to twist the truth. I'm quite shocked that you can write such lies when you oringinally said this in our private messages.
I honestly don't remember meeting you and if I appeared arrogant I'm sorry. TJ are you going to deny this statement. If so I invite the mods to go into my EZ Inbox and read exactly what he wrote.
Now Mr. Schwanky let me tell you and everyone else what did happen. I was standing at the inside entrance door with the petition collecting names for well over an hour before I seen you in the administrators office leaning against a wall or petition. I recongnized you from your pictures in the AO magazine. As perviously stated, I went over and introduced myself to you, etc.
TJ, why would I be rude to you or anyone else if I never met you before??? HuH? :rolleyes I actually wanted to meet the man behind the column in the magazine. With that said, I did not especially go to this show to meet you...I went to collect names for the MIHA petition set up by Rob.
I don't know if you were having a bad day or what, you did say (in the PM) someone had made a death threat against you over the MIHA. I was sorry to hear that.
Anyrate, back to my story, shortly after I left the office a lady from inside came out and introduced herself as the administrator and told me her name which I can't remember. She told me we were not allowed to petition in front of the doorway or in on the floor. I appoligized to the lady and told her I didn't know this nor neither did Rob or he wouldn't have sent me there, for that was our game plan. The lady also informed me that I was very welcome to take the petition back to the AO booth and continue from there. After we finished chatting, I did just that. I then talked to Paul about my conversation with the lady. I told Paul, I was willing to stay at the booth and collect signatures from there. Paul and another gent already had a petition running from the booth and he told me it was ok he had enough help. Paul also suggested I'd stand outside the main entrance and collect a few more names. I did so for awhile but remember it was very cold so I didn't stay long and left. If memory serves me correct, I either emailed Rob or phoned him and told him about my conversation with the lady at the show.
Thats the truth and the whole truth so TJ watch what you say.
sheep hunter
03-07-2007, 12:46 PM
You are correct Tuc, I did say I didn't recal meeting you in a private e-mail with you but then you refreshed my memory as to who you were and then I remembered all too well.
Anyhow Tuc, enough of this crap. We are never going to be friends so let's just drop things. You remember me being rude and I remember you being rude...what does it matter anyhow???? What does this have to do with hunting and fishing and trapping in Alberta. I'm really getting bored of all these personal slags and would much rather get back to talking about our real passions.
Tuc, I know you did a lot in regards to the IMHA and for that I have a ton of respect for you and wish more people would step up like you did but this tirade you are on right now is serving no purpose at all. Let's drop it...k?
Re: Tuc
03-07-2007, 01:05 PM
The psychologists won't be getting rich trying to fix the Sheep's broken ego.
Ok
03-07-2007, 01:37 PM
Ron Wrote."Please don't think I want to be your friend. Not for a second bud."
"Anyhow Tuc, enough of this crap. We are never going to be friends so let's just drop things". I think he beat you to the punch there ron.:o :rollin :rollin
osterb
03-07-2007, 01:38 PM
I thought this thread was originally a joke :rolleyes
Apparently It's a comedy fest :rollin :rollin :rollin
IBTL
blaah! blaaah! blaaah!
03-07-2007, 01:40 PM
Some people are legends...only in their own minds.
Who cares!!!!
when you get to feeling like you are someone important...try ordering someone else's dog around.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v50/Redfrog/dedhorse.gif
Somebody call a waaaaambulance.:rolleyes :rolleyes
doesn't anyone hunt anymore??
It's hardly worth chewing through the leather straps anymore to visit this board.:rolleyes
bigbore
03-07-2007, 02:02 PM
you know what makes this forum so popular over most others?? The amount of witch hunting, fighting over religion, sexual orientation, Treaty and Metis hunting rights, etc etc etc.
this forum has been on a downhill rollercoaster for a while now, and if you havent seen it, YOUR BLIND!
maybe not in the amount of posting that goes on daily, but the amount of personal attacks and plain old bullsh!t.
you say SHeep attacks everyone and its his way or the highway. But ive noticed alot of old thread where TJ's opinion didnt amount to nothing, or in firearm discussions , the "BIG SHOT kNOw IT ALL FIRE ARM JUNKIES" tried to put him in his place.
TJ takes it on the chin with the sh!T stick as much as anybody, on this bloody forum. Just since hes out there Promoting the sport maybe its just a bit more fun to stick it to him.
The changes Rob is making to this forum will not change its course. Anyone who has been here from the start of the forum should know what im talking about, and TUC, you are one of those people.
Ive meet TJ at the outdoor shows, I enjoy his writing, and look forward to meeting him again in edmonton at this years show.
He shows some class guys, which "sometimes" is more than i can say for you Tuc, and i know im sometimes no better so dont think im trying to say im better than you either. We've had our differences and probably always will.
An example of which i speak is my 2005 Whitetail, when everyone posted up the old, hey nice buck, congrats, etc etc , which is great..... TJ, actual gave me a PM out of the blue to give me a pat on the back. Which again he repeated with my 2006 elk.........................
..........we all know i have a treaty card, and have a choice................. but what did you do Tuc? You posted that you saw the orange tag and said you know i didnt have to buy that. what is that anyways? with that you separated me from everyone else.
Now come on every body...................
DON'T CHIME IN ALL AT ONCE!!!!!
......i know for a fact that there are alot more people who support TJ than there has been bashing him.
maybe they are afraid of getting raked over the coals???? just maybe. But im not afraid to stand up for my 2 cents.
its going to take all of us to get this place back to the way it used to be. Sounds like a great time to start
IBTL
Tucumseh
03-07-2007, 02:08 PM
TJ, first of all thanx for the compliment. I too have a passion for our resources and refuse to satnd by idle for something as important as the MIHA.
With that said let me assure you I will not stand for lies being spread about me. You can try all you want to make yourself look like the tough guy but not at my expense. I mean what I said! I have never spread lies or ever planned to try to hurt your reputation. I personally think your over inflated ego can accomplish that all by it's self.
TJ as a friendly gesture, pay attention to what the guys are saying. I'm sure there are many more that do agree (but have not said) with what so many have told you. I am not perfect but I will stand up for what I believe in. I will also admit when I'm wrong and extend my hand shake as a friendly gesture.
Please don't think I want to be your friend. Not for a second bud, but I do wish you the best. You too have contributed alot too the sport and I respect that.
Now I agree, enough is enough, what did you even start the thread for in the first place.
rugatika
03-07-2007, 02:11 PM
Well said bigbore. I know I can get going with some childish replies at times too but this is really starting to sound like the grade 3 schoolyard. Everyone enjoys getting in a jab now and then and I'm sure most of us on here are more than capable of taking one without holding a lifelong grudge. Digging up things from several years ago to make a point on here goes beyond good sportsmanship.
If there is an issue on a point that is worth arguing I'm sure it can be done without slagging a board member. Not saying it isn't gonna happen, but maybe the extended flame wars could be squelched. I'm sure a good soap opera is appealing to lots but what would it hurt to shut some of these threads down that degenerate into nothing but mudslinging?
Just my 2 cents
TJ's inflated Ego
03-07-2007, 02:19 PM
My goodness TJ. Do you ever have a large chip on your shoulder. It must be tiring carrying around that ego of yours. In fact, your ego is so big it is blocking the door to reality that you badly need to get through.
Bigbore
03-07-2007, 03:18 PM
You should have more fiber in your diet :o sheep open this door willing .Big deal he wrote you a pm about your elk and deer :\ Good for you
Big
03-07-2007, 03:57 PM
nevermind sonny, has nothin to do with you:evil
tj
03-07-2007, 04:05 PM
Come on you guy's. Stick to the topic. This is a T S.H. flaming thread. No hijacking, at T.J.'s request.
Rob Miskosky
03-07-2007, 05:09 PM
This thread is now done.
Any who try to open another thread similar will be warned once, and then banned from this board permanently.
Please see the thread "Attention Board Users" in the General Discussion Forum.
Rob Miskosky
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