gun petition

[sprinklerdog]

I received this from a friend of mine.

Petition to close the gun registry

To the Prime Minister of Canada:

The federal government continues to pour money into the federal gun registry which is now estimated to cost $2 billion by 2012. The Auditor General of Canada – at the urging of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation – conducted a scathing audit of this registry in 2002. However, the Auditor General could not complete her audit, given the scattering – if not deliberate hiding – of costs across the federal bureaucracy.

The federal gun registry is beyond salvation. Duck hunters, farmers and law abiding gun owners do not pose a threat to public security, criminals do! The registry is too costly and it is not working. We the undersigned demand that you:

Shut down the gun registry; and
Reallocate future budgeted gun registry spending to front-line policing and effective controls against illegal firearms at our borders, airports and ports.

Sign the petition at /secure.lexi.net/ctf/peti...ition_id=1 (https://secure.lexi.net/ctf/petitions.php?petition_id=1)


Geo

[Okotokian]

Anyone have any idea what it's costing to run the registry NOW? like how much per year? I always hated the registry primarily for the cost and waste. I never really had a huge problem with the act of registering. I don't get twisted when I register my car either.

Ok, here's another stupid question... Just bought a new gun a few weeks ago, got the registration the other day. Maybe I missed something, but I don't recall paying any fee at time of purchase. I wonder why not? I have to pay to register my car.

[Anglinfool]

The CFC doesn't require payment anymore. Same with renewals and upgrades from PAL to RPAL.

[GoonBag]

Done. Let's keep this thread bumped up to the top so we all get a chance to sign that petition.

[GUN PETITION]

Bump

[Charmax]

bump

[sprinklerdog]

This taken from our governmental ( I stress "mental") website. It is an article that was relased June 19 2006.

Boy do I feel safe!!!! ( catch the sarcasm?)

Geo

The long-gun registry: Costs and crime statistics

Costs

In 1995, the previous government told Parliament that the firearms program, most specifically the long-gun registry, would involve a net cost of just $2 million (Auditor General’s Report 2002, Chapter 10).
In May 2000, the previous government admitted that the costs had actually ballooned to at least $327 million (Auditor General’s Report 2002, Chapter 10).
By March 2005 the net cost of the firearms program was $946 million. Today they exceed $1 billion. The Auditor General states that Parliament was misinformed about many of these costs. (Auditor General’s Report 2006, Chapter 4).
Neither the costs incurred by provincial and territorial agencies in enforcing the legislation, nor the costs borne by Firearms owners and businesses to comply with the legislation have been calculated. (Auditor General’s Report 2002, Chapter 10).
Two Library of Parliament studies estimate that the enforcement and compliance costs are substantial, running into hundreds of millions of dollars. (Compliance Costs of Firearms Registration, 10 October 2003; and, Estimates of Some of the Costs of Enforcing the Firearms Act, 20 March 2003).
Crime Statistics

There are nearly 7 million registered long-guns in Canada. Yet of 549 murders recorded in Canada in 2003, only 2 were committed with long-guns known to be registered (Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics).

[Brady]

Well shotgun, I can't believe I never saw this before, but I just read the thread, and signed the petition, and I will thumbnail it up for you guys.

[FisherPotch]

Right on Brady!! I'm signed. Let's make this a hot topic. Bring the registration down. The only thing it does effectively is waste money.

Also good job on the bupin there Five0.

[FiveO]

Bump.

[shotgun]

Why is this not being "thumbtacked"?. At least for a little while until everybody gets a chance. I know it is has limited effect but still something we should do.

[shotgun]

I would like to take credit for it...

thanks Brady.

[280 Man]

Why does it just mention Duck Hunters, Farmers and Law abiding gun owners? What happened to big game hunters with rifles, not only shotguns?

280 Man

[SakoAlberta]

done.

[-NDN-]

signed as well. just left out the address info other than city/province. thats no ones business:ashamed:

[JEHL75]

Done as well

[BC-Outfitter]

A Free and Democratic Country with huge areas of Public owned Wilderness does not need a Registery for Guns. It is an insult to Canadians not to mention the imense cost and additional Buraucracy this has created.

Goverments which are affraid of there Citizens allways want to have Gun Registerys. Should Canadians really feel less free then the Citizens of the US or Switzerland.

Canadians want meaningfull Crime control. Politicians which dont deliver should not be considered on voting day.

Vote for a free Canada.:evilgrin:













I received this from a friend of mine.

Petition to close the gun registry

To the Prime Minister of Canada:

The federal government continues to pour money into the federal gun registry which is now estimated to cost $2 billion by 2012. The Auditor General of Canada – at the urging of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation – conducted a scathing audit of this registry in 2002. However, the Auditor General could not complete her audit, given the scattering – if not deliberate hiding – of costs across the federal bureaucracy.

The federal gun registry is beyond salvation. Duck hunters, farmers and law abiding gun owners do not pose a threat to public security, criminals do! The registry is too costly and it is not working. We the undersigned demand that you:

Shut down the gun registry; and
Reallocate future budgeted gun registry spending to front-line policing and effective controls against illegal firearms at our borders, airports and ports.

Sign the petition at /secure.lexi.net/ctf/peti...ition_id=1 (https://secure.lexi.net/ctf/petitions.php?petition_id=1)


Geo

[honda450]

Signed

[Jigger]

Can you tell how many people have signed the petition?

[gsteeves]

Done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mud slug]

bump

[coldredneck]

done

[ives]

signed

[ULTRAlite]

signed

[Rugersingle]

Done..

[Suka]

Done

[TheClash]

signed......

[tallguy]

signed, sealed, delivered.

[panwojciech]

Done...

[gommee]

Done :o)

[270WIN]

Anyone have any idea what it's costing to run the registry NOW? like how much per year? I always hated the registry primarily for the cost and waste. I never really had a huge problem with the act of registering. I don't get twisted when I register my car either.

Ok, here's another stupid question... Just bought a new gun a few weeks ago, got the registration the other day. Maybe I missed something, but I don't recall paying any fee at time of purchase. I wonder why not? I have to pay to register my car.

Notwithstanding what the Liberals would have had us believe when they passed the legislation which created the long gun registry, the requirement to register our guns is not the same as the requirement to register our vehicles or the requirement to buy a dog licence. For example, failure to register your car or licence your dog will not get you a criminal record and a jail sentence.
To answer your question as to why you didn't have to pay a fee to register your gun you can thank the conservatives for that. Those fees were were cancelled after the last federal election.

[Rockyhunter]

Petition signed.

[gube]

I received it in an E-mail. Sighned and forwarding the E-mail to my fellow hunters and shooters.

[BUD]

Dont,t want to be a wrench in the machinery here , but l believe a petition is only acceptable and legal if the names are handsigned with pen .
Might be something to check.
Filling out a type written document with type written names may not get to the table even though we all mean good , just another legal quirk.

[Jordan18]

Signed

[sharp_85]

signed.

[autolimit]

dONE

[Savage270]

Signed and sent

[kens]

The Conservatives are committed to doing this but there is no point in trying until they have a majority government. Sure doesn't hurt to remind your MP etc but lets try and avoid high exposure to the general public. If you want to help join and support the federal Conservative party, the gun registry will meet its demise!

[Duke1]

Signed

[Greg8941]

Done

[Sage]

Signed :D

[58Marlin]

done my bit:tongue2:

[abrigger]

signed.

[Rockyhunter]

Done

[Roughneck12]

+ many

[YukonBound]

I went in to buy a box of bullets the other day in Wholesale. An American hunter in front of me wasn't required to produce even a piece of ID. All he had to say was "I'm American" and put down the greenbacks. I was next and had to produce not only my driver's license but also my PAL (of course). How the hell is this keeping us safe?? Let's do away with the registry and put some of this money towards meaningful gun education for minors and new gun owners.

[CdnVet0506]

signed.... Now to wait for the election to be over with

[Gonehuntin']

Signed off on it, but am still shaking my head over the whole thing. Now that the election`s over and we have yet another minority Conservative Gov`t in power(snicker at power), I ask the following: Does anyone really think they`ll actually MAN UP AND DO WHAT THEY SAY. I recall a pamphlet circulated by the Conservative MP for my riding saying ``We`re Scrapping the Registry``This tune has been heard before,like in the LAST federal election, but no action taken that has had the quoted effect.It has been a major plank in the platform, but they haven`t really stood firm on it.High hopes for this to happen prior tothe next election,but who knows.:scared::scared:

[spurly]

signed

[Deemoss]

a decision has been taken some time ago to cancel the registration... quote from the cfc website:
"The Government has announced its intention to simplify licence requirements for firearm owners and to remove the requirement to register non-restricted firearms. However, any changes to the Firearms Act must go through a legislative process and pass in Parliament. This will take time. "

it's only a matter of time, and i don't think the petition is necessary nor will it make things faster...

plus we're not paying anything for registering... it ain't any hassle to register a gun be it new or bought from a person that never registered... so why is everyone against it so much... let it take its time and it'll vanish...

[sharp_85]

True, we aren't paying to register the firearms when we buy them. But it's our tax dollars that are keeping the gun registry going. The longer we sit back and let a pointless program like this continue the more money will be sunk into the registry instead of somewhere it could do some real good.

[dade]

signed..

[Grizzled]

Signed and sent...

[Wild Bill]

Done... Now let's see if the powers that be take notice and follow through on what they say they will do

[tth_12032]

I am eager for the day the long gun registry is scraped but considering that the NDP and Liberals want to ban handguns I don't foresee this happening until there is a Conservative majority...and I don't foresee this either... :( Who besides the Conservatives will ever vote in support of ending the registry?!?

[Dark]

Done

[graham1]

done

[flatblack]

Would anyone happen to know the first country to enforce this type of law?

This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!
- Adolf Hitler

Hitler later used this to his advantage to see which home had a gun and which ones didnt. I believe it is an invasion of privacy as well as taking away protection from so many homes. I believe that if you are a criminal with a record of being violent or using weapons to commit crime then by all means you shouldnt own a gun. I cant protect my home because i dont have my FAC, and if i did I would not register my firearm. Its something I strongly believe in. If someone wants to kill, they will find a way to do it, restrictions on rifles doesnt stop some nut job from killing another human being. I went to school with a kid named jeremy steinkey. he didnt have to use a gun, nor did his girlfriend to kill an innocent family.
sure it might be a minor inconvienance but you have to think about the possible consequences that can go with registering your firearm. what if we go to war for some stupid reason? the government knows who hunts, and who can point a rifle the right way. its highly unlikely, but so was 2 airplanes hitting the twin towers.

not trying to scare anyone, nor am i trying to say that the same thing could happen to canada. just a thing to ponder on

[winnie@aol.com]

I realize I'm probably in the wrong place here but I just wanted to ask somebody- or everybody what a couple guns may be worth.
Winnie:wave:

[378 Wthrby]

Done:D

[gunsnreels]

eol

[flatblack]

its a sticky, it doenst need to be bumped :D

[bushjunkie]

done, good call on getting this up here boys!

[CaberTosser]

Signed with pride.

[hdmyg228]

Now that is a lot of brass air fittings http://www.liangdianup.com/subpages/airfitting_1.htm there is just about every type
of air fitting that you could want. Wholesale prices too. I guess these could be used as small water pipe fitting also. I
used some of the parts to make my babington wvo burner.

[jackal]

signed!

[ABolt270]

Git-R-Done

[swift81]

Signed, hope that many more do the same!

[stinkynuts]

Done

[Wapiti88]

Done !!!

[Polarisnut]

Singed

[dmckay]

Amen! Signed

[maxpower2506]

Done, for all the good it will do. Have any of you people ever watched Question Period in the house, Does any one actually think we out here in the sticks matter I recommend no one holds their breath!!!!

[foothillsman]

Signed. Now how do we deal with the pressure on the fed gov't from the urban belief systems that started it. Oh maxpower2506, good question, is there an association that sticks up for rural needs and concerns? If not, someone should start one to give rural folks more clout.

[ling man]

i tried to sign but the sight is down.i will keep checking back.thanks for posting your letter.

[varmit9]

tried site is still down. they say they are having technical difficulties haha
probly overloaded the servers with signatures

[hondacom@ntl.sympatico.ca]

I hunt and have owned guns for 60 years. I find nothing wrong with the gun registry and my guns are all registered.

[Dick284]

I hunt and have owned guns for 60 years. I find nothing wrong with the gun registry and my guns are all registered.

If you want to troll try the fishing section.

[catnthehat]

I hunt and have owned guns for 60 years. I find nothing wrong with the gun registry and my guns are all registered.

No, the problem is trolls from the east who actually do not hunt or own guns , but are just trying to stir stuff up.
sorry fella, it ain't workin'!:lol:

Cat

[mangler]

There is a new effort just started with the support of OFAH, AFGA, CSSA, and others. Here is the link http://www.scrapthelonggunregistry.com/

[boku]

Mangler, thanks for getting the link working. Signed.
I would have no problem with registering my rifles (they are) - if it did any good. None of the weapons being seized by police here in Calgary have been registered.
I particularly support the last clause of the petition: re-direct the funds to where they will do good.

[Wiebe]

Says site is closed due to technical difficulties

[Rocky7]

No, the problem is trolls from the east who actually do not hunt or own guns , but are just trying to stir stuff up.
sorry fella, it ain't workin'!:lol:

Cat

Yep. They're easy to spot. They drool.

As for petitions, I'm all for it; but writing letters will do more good. I pen one at least yearly and am starting to get real fed up with promises to flush this dummass, tyrannical, useless, ineffective appeasement to eastern airheads.

Does anyone know where the Wild Rose Party stands? I know they are provincial, but I'd like to know if they've taken a stand.

Getting real tired of politicians who pretend to lead but stand at back of the room to see which way the mob is leaning before they decide what they think...

[molly09]

will sign all

[outbackpat]

As a tax payer and avid hunter I would like to see an actual breakdown of why this gun registry is costing so much. Show us where our hard earned money goes. It's a big gd scam. I wonder how many hunter's stopped buying licenses and choose not to register any gun's because of this bull**** long-gun registry. I know quite a few that gave up something they really enjoyed just because they didn't want to give in. Now the last store in Alberta that would sell a hunter ammo has taken so much heat from the authority's,they now have to by law ask for a fac. I think everyone that hunt's should go buy a bow and tell the government to pound sand. Are there and trough feeding politician that would like to throw their 2 cent's into this rant.

[6.5 shooter]

Clicked on the link and this is what I got hummmmm do you smell a conspericy????

We are currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please check back soon!

[6.5 shooter]

clicked the link again and I get the......... We are currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please check back soon!

Am I doing some thing wrong??

[bruce44]

what is this petition about banning handguns or people against banning handguns. I see people supporting this petition but saying they like handguns.

[WkndWarrior]

done.