Meet the NDP

[Suka]

Came across this, it's list of tweets from ndp candidate's. Some are really quite disturbing. These are the candidate's words. This is what ndp supporters are voting in favor of.

http://www.meetthendp.ca/


Here is the ndp socialists manifesto. It's made up of ndp members(says so in the manifesto.) Be interesting to know how many ndp candidates are proud members of this, let's say, "group"? Perhaps you ndp supporters should be asking your local candidates where they stand on this. I damn sure would be.

http://www.ndpsocialists.ca/Manifesto%20for%20a%20Socialist%20Canada.pdf

^^^ ndp supporters want, "change". They're definitely going to get it.

[Elixr]

If there was no title I would have thought those tweets were from junior high school students from arts n crafts classes.

Rough roads ahead for AB and I dont even want to think about a Fed NDP.
Or Liberal either

This is not a good way to wake up

[Dog hunter]

:fighting0030:Dippers should man up and give the rest of us their guns and money before they vote. I mean if they plan on giving them away by voting for ndp, the rest of us should be compensated

[Elixr]

:fighting0030:Dippers should man up and give the rest of us their guns and money before they vote. I mean if they plan on giving them away by voting for ndp, the rest of us should be compensated

This is probably the BEST anti NDP rebuttle I have ever heard :sHa_shakeshout:

[rugatika]

Wow! Any one of those quotes muttered by a conservative would be receiving 24/7 airplay. It is scary to think these hate filled people are running this province and could be running this country. Too bad.

These are people that fundamentally believe Canada is a source of evil on this planet and that our economic and social systems need to be transformed to something modelled according to the baby-touching dictators at the UN.

[skidderman]

The sheep continue to follow. Few make there own way.

[silverdoctor]

meetthendp.ca, brought to you by the Conservative Party of Canada...


Guess some of them are true.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1304302-kings-hants-ndp-candidate-morgan-wheeldon-resigns-over-anti-israel-post

[sns2]

Meh. Sound bytes. If they took Harper's sound bytes, they could make him sound like a lying dictator. While some of them are ridiculous for sure, we have no idea of the context, which is necessary for any individual with half a brain. It should surprise no one that environmentalists do not like the oilsands, and that we have aspiring politicians who hate Israel. Just check out the UN voting record since 1948 on Israeli issues. And as for people mocking Christians, well about 2000 years ago they beat the founder and nailed him to a cross, so a politician making fun is not that high on the richter scale.

No party is going to shut down the oilsands. It is the economic engine of Canada.

My last word though is that that loonie broad in Toronto sounds pretty crazy. Hate to be her husband:)

[From The Hip]

Wow! Any one of those quotes muttered by a conservative would be receiving 24/7 airplay. It is scary to think these hate filled people are running this province and could be running this country. Too bad.

These are people that fundamentally believe Canada is a source of evil on this planet and that our economic and social systems need to be transformed to something modelled according to the baby-touching dictators at the UN.

What is really pathetic is that the leftist media are giving the NDP a free pass on anything negative said by their candidates and only paying attention to angry tom.I have said it before and I will say it again.I have nevver seen such a cohesive effort by the media to try and influnce a Federal election.

IMO the Conservatives need to seriously focus on the NDP and let Trudeau sabotage himself as he is more than able to do it.

FTH

[TROLLER]

I am trying to copy this to send on to some others in the need to know but just not working.

I tried to copy paste and then just fill in the addy but nothing.

[rugatika]

No party is going to shut down the oilsands. It is the economic engine of Canada.


This is what I find curious. I think a lot of people look at other people's radical views and make the assumption that those people are using the same common sense construct, on which to base their future actions, that we do. These people, and many others view the world through a different lens than most people do. To them, killing a person for hunting deer is perfectly rational. Firebombing a lab that is searching for a cancer cure because they use rats for experiments is noble. Banning guns will stop killing, and shutting down the oil sands to save the planet is absolutely necessary.

Harper has his faults, but I am at least somewhat confident that he views the world through a much more pragmatic and common sense lens than these types do.

[sns2]

Harper has his faults, but I am at least somewhat confident that he views the world through a much more pragmatic and common sense lens than these types do.

I would agree with this statement.

I'm not looking for an argument, and I've had enough of Redfrog twisting my words to last me a lifetime, but many posters on this forum need to realize that a great deal of Canada views the oilsands as dirty. It's my guess they would also place more of an emphasis on the environment than Albertans, and they are more suspicious of Harper's tight-fisted control of the party and his manipulation of the media. I am on record as to my voting history and political affiliations, though a number of you choose to ignore what I have actually written, but Harper is in big trouble in this election. If you observe the campaigns, Mulcair is coming off as a centrist politician, and dare I say, pragmatic. He is running a masterful campaign so far, and unless Harper has something up his sleeve, we are likely going to have a new PM. Like it or not, that seems to be the direction it is heading.

[rugatika]

I would agree with this statement.

I'm not looking for an argument, and I've had enough of Redfrog twisting my words to last me a lifetime, but many posters on this forum need to realize that a great deal of Canada views the oilsands as dirty. It's my guess they would also place more of an emphasis on the environment than Albertans, and they are more suspicious of Harper's tight-fisted control of the party and his manipulation of the media. I am on record as to my voting history and political affiliations, though a number of you choose to ignore what I have actually written, but Harper is in big trouble in this election. If you observe the campaigns, Mulcair is coming off as a centrist politician, and dare I say, pragmatic. He is running a masterful campaign so far, and unless Harper has something up his sleeve, we are likely going to have a new PM. Like it or not, that seems to be the direction it is heading.

I agree that many Canadians view the oilsands as dirty and likely even think they should be shut down...until they actually are shut down and they are out of work or are forced to witness cuts to social programs, higher fuel prices etc. This is what I mean. Too many people aren't thinking rationally. Yes, it would be nice if deer didn't get displaced when someone built a house, etc etc...but for every convenience we have in life, there is a trade off somewhere. People need to understand that what the NDP and their ilk are promising is nothing more than the fanciful talk of juveniles.

I'm still hoping that unlike Alberta, Canadians will come to their senses when they step up to vote. I fully realize THAT may turn out to be the most fanciful wish of this election season. :)

[Elixr]

I would agree with this statement.

I'm not looking for an argument, and I've had enough of Redfrog twisting my words to last me a lifetime, but many posters on this forum need to realize that a great deal of Canada views the oilsands as dirty. It's my guess they would also place more of an emphasis on the environment than Albertans, and they are more suspicious of Harper's tight-fisted control of the party and his manipulation of the media. I am on record as to my voting history and political affiliations, though a number of you choose to ignore what I have actually written, but Harper is in big trouble in this election. If you observe the campaigns, Mulcair is coming off as a centrist politician, and dare I say, pragmatic. He is running a masterful campaign so far, and unless Harper has something up his sleeve, we are likely going to have a new PM. Like it or not, that seems to be the direction it is heading.

Muclair only comes off as a masterful campaigner to those of weak intelligence and only follow politics thru the local media reports once in a while. Or thru water cooler chatter and FB.
Which unfortunately is commonplace

[Redfrog]

meetthendp.ca, brought to you by the Conservative Party of Canada...


Guess some of them are true.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1304302-kings-hants-ndp-candidate-morgan-wheeldon-resigns-over-anti-israel-post


https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLlrdv_8Qizt5-xtEmVfdOqRPmVr3MQnouV5hYrQ0pOzsA-7FSyg


NO!!! I mean

KILL THE MESSENGER!!!!! SOME OF THIS STUFF IS TRUE!!!!


All of it is true, and that's the truth. Deny and ignore it at your own risk.

Pollyanna predictions of prosperity from those socialist engineers who can't, mean nothing, when the party they support says different.

As a wise man once said. "Enjoy the Decline.

[Redfrog]

Thanks for the heads up Suka.

Thank God none of those folks mentioned the 'Lake of Fire' . or else the NDP would be in real trouble :thinking-006:

Where do they get these ideas? Is this what is being taught in school these days?:test::scared0018:

[EZM]

If the thoughts of these people don't clearly demonstrate how dangerous this party is ..... I'm not sure what rational voters need to see?!?!

The position of the NDP will destroy Alberta and the rest of the country will follow in economic collapse.

Good news is there will be plenty of programs created that will provide plenty of soup and bread for us when we are all starving.

[deerhunter]

This should be copied and passed out at the local candidate debates when they start in our constituacies.

:bad_boys_20::angry3::fighting0074:

[rugatika]

Socialism at work in Venezuela.... http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/27/venezuelas-food-shortages-trigger-long-lines-hunger-and-looting/ ....started by the NDP hero...so let's bring it to Canada.

The soldiers had been deployed to stem rampant food smuggling and price speculation, which President Nicolás Maduro blames for triple-digit inflation and scarcity. But after they seize contraband goods, the troops themselves often become targets of increasingly desperate people.

“What’s certain is that we are going very hungry here and the children are suffering a lot,” said María Palma, a 55-year-old grandmother who on a recent blistering hot day had been standing in line at the grocery store since 3 a.m. before walking away empty-handed at midday.



This is what the NDP hope to emulate. These are the government's that the NDP admire. Is this really what you want in this country?

[Redfrog]

Socialism at work in Venezuela.... http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/27/venezuelas-food-shortages-trigger-long-lines-hunger-and-looting/ ....started by the NDP hero...so let's bring it to Canada.

The soldiers had been deployed to stem rampant food smuggling and price speculation, which President Nicolás Maduro blames for triple-digit inflation and scarcity. But after they seize contraband goods, the troops themselves often become targets of increasingly desperate people.

“What’s certain is that we are going very hungry here and the children are suffering a lot,” said María Palma, a 55-year-old grandmother who on a recent blistering hot day had been standing in line at the grocery store since 3 a.m. before walking away empty-handed at midday.



This is what the NDP hope to emulate. These are the government's that the NDP admire. Is this really what you want in this country?


Good thing the citizens have firearms. They can sell them to buy food or cheap fuel.:)

Exciting times when indeed when the NDP candidates aim for such common sense excellence.

The Chavez..... a combination of Robin Hood, Che Guerva and Michael Buble.

Those are definitely people I want governing Canada. The only thing that would make it better is we could add Justin Bieber to the list.

[sns2]

Muclair only comes off as a masterful campaigner to those of weak intelligence and only follow politics thru the local media reports once in a while. Or thru water cooler chatter and FB.
Which unfortunately is commonplace

All he has to do is convince voters he is not radical. So far he is doing just that. Polls bear that out. If you think for a second that talk of subsidized daycare spaces, concern for the environment, and balanced budgets does not appeal to the average joe, then you may be of weak intelligence.

[Elixr]

All he has to do is convince voters he is not radical. So far he is doing just that. Polls bear that out. If you think for a second that talk of subsidized daycare spaces, concern for the environment, and balanced budgets does not appeal to the average joe, then you may be of weak intelligence.

Watch your mouth kiddo

[Dog hunter]

All he has to do is convince voters he is not radical. So far he is doing just that. Polls bear that out. If you think for a second that talk of subsidized daycare spaces, concern for the environment, and balanced budgets does not appeal to the average joe, then you may be of weak intelligence.

He is radical, those who beleive he isnt are weak in the mind, his concerns for the enviroment are uneducated dribble,his plan for balancing the budget enrealistic and i already paid for daycare twice and i am not paying for yours's

[Dog hunter]

This is probably the BEST anti NDP rebuttle I have ever heard :sHa_shakeshout:

Thanks

[Elixr]

Thanks

Oh no no no

Thank you !!!!!

Im going to borrow that statement if you dont mind.
Will be a great weapon at work :sHa_shakeshout:

[Dog hunter]

Oh no no no

Thank you !!!!!

Im going to borrow that statement if you dont mind.
Will be a great weapon at work :sHa_shakeshout:

Yes, please do

[Elixr]

:cheers:Yes, please do

[260 Rem]

Watch your mouth kiddo

Elixr - seems you were the first to assert that those not in agreement with you were lacking intelligence ... and you get hissy when it is thrown back? Some of us that have earned a couple of university degrees, wonder if those making comments demeaning the intelligence of others even made it through high school?

[Redfrog]

Elixr - seems you were the first to assert that those not in agreement with you were lacking intelligence ... and you get hissy when it is thrown back? Some of us that have earned a couple of university degrees, wonder if those making comments demeaning the intelligence of others even made it through high school?

Excellent comments on the topic at hand. :thinking-006:

I'm not smart enough to expect anything less, I guess.

[Elixr]

Elixir - seems you were the first to assert that those not in agreement with you were lacking intelligence ... and you get hissy when it is thrown back? Some of us that have earned a couple of university degrees, wonder if those making comments demeaning the intelligence of others even made it through high school?

More amusement

I question the intelligence of NDP and Liberal supporters.
And especially of the leaders.

Its more than obvious the twitter Dipstick comments are made by sub par individuals of which I have no respect for.

And there are plenty of people with University education that turn out to be duds of society

[rugatika]

Elixr - seems you were the first to assert that those not in agreement with you were lacking intelligence ... and you get hissy when it is thrown back? Some of us that have earned a couple of university degrees, wonder if those making comments demeaning the intelligence of others even made it through high school?

Intelligence and university degree(s) are two different things.

[260 Rem]

More amusement
I question the intelligence of NDP and Liberal supporters.
And especially of the leaders.
Its more than obvious the twitter Dipstick comments are made by sub par individuals of which I have no respect for.
And there are plenty of people with University education that turn out to be duds of society
Sit down Elix, this may come as great shock to you, I suspect that most folks could care less about having "your respect". Just to be clear, I am one of those "most folks"!

[Elixr]

Sit down Elix, this may come as great shock to you, I suspect that most folks could care less about having "your respect". Just to be clear, I am one of those "most folks"!

Copy that lol

Now can you find your way back to this threads topic?
I'll help out.

These are very dire times in Canada for the proper government.
Just as it is for the USofA now.

The best choices must be made for the Country and its future.

Sorry but the Libs and Dips fall painfully short of competence!!

[Burglecut83]

All he has to do is convince voters he is not radical. So far he is doing just that. Polls bear that out. If you think for a second that talk of subsidized daycare spaces, concern for the environment, and balanced budgets does not appeal to the average joe, then you may be of weak intelligence.

I am 31. I own a business. Welfare ei and 15 dollar a day childcare mean sweet f all to me. I was taught by my parents to work hard and life will take care of me. So far it's proven true. I'm pretty sure if the NDP in power I will be getting robbed for being intelligent, hard working and independent. I guess I'm not an e average Joe. The average joes are *******' that feel it's the government's job to look after them. Lazy to put the extra effort in to be noticed and excel in their chosen path. But yeah hey I get it.. if someone else is gonna pay the bills why the hell not eh, less work I gotta do. Me myself I have too much pride and drive to be a regular Joe.

I must add in these economic times there will be no balanced budgets unless taxes are raised significantly and the environment is already messed up cars driving to work in the mornjng produce more pollution than the oil sands the ndp wants to shut down.

P'S if you can tell me that Muclair has a secret money tree somewhere that he's going to use to pay for all these pie in the sky promises he keeps making while shutting down the oil sands I would gladly change my position. Problem is. ..muclair wants to chop the money tree(oilsand) into small pieces and burn it. Because of this, I thjnk he's got air for brains and anyone that supports hjm does too.

Oil sands are the economic engine of Canada. Our labour is too high priced for manufacturing. Get off the unicorn and throw your magic wands in the ditch... you're dreaming if you think Muclair can make his promises reality without shutting this beautiful country down.

[Klondike]

meetthendp.ca, brought to you by the Conservative Party of Canada...


Guess some of them are true.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1304302-kings-hants-ndp-candidate-morgan-wheeldon-resigns-over-anti-israel-post

Could you point out which statements aren't true? Thanks in advance

[silverdoctor]

You fellows are a hoot. Weak minded? Really?

When bill S-4 passed, the common theme here was "I've got nothing to hide, nothing to fear".
When bill C-13 passed, same.
When bill C51 passed, same.
The list goes on and on and on.

Now you have something to hide, and something to really fear - your firearms are in danger.

Now you're going to find out how dangerous these new laws are - the "warrantless" that has been crammed down Canadians throats.


Feeling safer? Enjoy.

[Klondike]

Elixr - seems you were the first to assert that those not in agreement with you were lacking intelligence ... and you get hissy when it is thrown back? Some of us that have earned a couple of university degrees, wonder if those making comments demeaning the intelligence of others even made it through high school?

Pottery and basket weaving? :sHa_sarcasticlol::sHa_sarcasticlol::scared0018:


OH COME ON someone had to poke that bear:fighting0030:

[Redfrog]

You fellows are a hoot. Weak minded? Really?

When bill S-4 passed, the common theme here was "I've got nothing to hide, nothing to fear".
When bill C-13 passed, same.
When bill C51 passed, same.
The list goes on and on and on.

Now you have something to hide, and something to really fear - your firearms are in danger.

Now you're going to find out how dangerous these new laws are - the "warrantless" that has been crammed down Canadians throats.


Feeling safer? Enjoy.

So no threat exists, Steve just wants to know what's going on the basements of Bodo? Oh, BRB, the gestapo are at the door.:thinking-006:






Ok I'm back , It wasn't the gestapo at all it was two guys from ISIS asking if I had read the Koran, and could they talk to me about Allah.. They seem nice.:)

[silverdoctor]

So no threat exists, Steve just wants to know what's going on the basements of Bodo? Oh, BRB, the gestapo are at the door.:thinking-006:

Ok I'm back , It wasn't the gestapo at all it was two guys from ISIS asking if I had read the Koran, and could they talk to me about Allah.. They seem nice.:)

Keep on being facetious Red, that's really going to save your firearms.

Let me ask you. The NFA was very vocal about C-51 entrenching the "police state" in Canada.

Why did they back out down? Why did they not speak their piece?

[Elixr]

So no threat exists, Steve just wants to know what's going on the basements of Bodo? Oh, BRB, the gestapo are at the door.:thinking-006:






Ok I'm back , It wasn't the gestapo at all it was two guys from ISIS asking if I had read the Koran, and could they talk to me about Allah.. They seem nice.:)

Ok that does it !!!!

Im going to add your name to my "favorite comedians" thread.

I wish I had a prize for ya but the Dips have put my portfolio on lockdown saying my money isnt really mine :mad3:

[rugatika]

Keep on being facetious Red, that's really going to save your firearms.

Let me ask you. The NFA was very vocal about C-51 entrenching the "police state" in Canada.

Why did they back out down? Why did they not speak their piece?

Why?

[silverdoctor]

Why?

I'm asking you folks - firearms owners - why the NFA backed down.

[Elixr]

I'm asking you folks - firearms owners - why the NFA backed down.

What does it matter?

[260 Rem]

Copy that lol
Now can you find your way back to this threads topic?
I'll help out.
These are very dire times in Canada for the proper government.
Just as it is for the USofA now.
The best choices must be made for the Country and its future.
Sorry but the Libs and Dips fall painfully short of competence!!

These are indeed dire times ... again. It is much to early to predict the outcome of our Fed election, but the "anybody but Harper" seems to be gaining momentum. Regardless of which party forms government, Canadian citizenship will be much coveted. My politics are "centerist" so a bit right or left is no big deal. I am a realist in terms of the actual impact our government can have on our prosperity as it is clear the Canadian economy is largely dependent on the prosperity in foreign markets. I would have no problem supporting the Fed PC's without Harper in control. Dump him, the PC's have a chance, with him ... it's a crap shoot.

[silverdoctor]

What does it matter?

Why? The NFA was very vocal about it's concerns over how C-51 could be used against Canadians - and firearms owners. They were slated to challenge the bill but backed out at the last minute.

Some are claiming they gave a pass to get C-42 passed.


I really would like to know.

[Elixr]

Why? The NFA was very vocal about it's concerns over how C-51 could be used against Canadians - and firearms owners. They were slated to challenge the bill but backed out at the last minute.

Some are claiming they gave a pass to get C-42 passed.


I really would like to know.

Guess you should fire off an email to the President lickidy split.

I dont see how C51 could possibly affect the law abiding gun crowd?

[silverdoctor]

Guess you should fire off an email to the President lickidy split.

I dont see how C51 could possibly affect the law abiding gun crowd?

You keep throwing abiding in... Abiding has nothing to do with this - but take this as you wish...

In Canada, some farmers are on a domestic terror watch list - because they have oil equipment on their property. Farmers, dangerous people aren't they. Animal activists, PETA, Canadian freeman are on the list of domestic terrorists and the list goes on...

This is before C-51 passed. Imagine what the list is like now? Anyone can be a terrorist - and anyone can be classified as one whether you are one or not.

Lets look to the future. Government knows that many individuals didn't register their firearms - so lets have a little fun with it this time around.

Say the NDP get into power, or the Libs - they want to ban your guns. There is nothing stopping them from creating another registry and adding you to the terror watch list (if you're not already on one after c-51). If they consider farmers possible terrorists, what are they going to think of you owning a firearm? Once you are considered a terrorist, they can freely treat you differently.

They have a civil engineer as minister of public safety. How fitting.

[rugatika]

Guess you should fire off an email to the President lickidy split.

I dont see how C51 could possibly affect the law abiding gun crowd?

What if you were a gun owning terrorist? Might affect you. :sHa_shakeshout:

[hal53]

You keep throwing abiding in... Abiding has nothing to do with this - but take this as you wish...

In Canada, some farmers are on a domestic terror watch list - because they have oil equipment on their property. Farmers, dangerous people aren't they. Animal activists, PETA, Canadian freeman are on the list of domestic terrorists and the list goes on...

This is before C-51 passed. Imagine what the list is like now? Anyone can be a terrorist - and anyone can be classified as one whether you are one or not.

Lets look to the future. Government knows that many individuals didn't register their firearms - so lets have a little fun with it this time around.

Say the NDP get into power, or the Libs - they want to ban your guns. There is nothing stopping them from creating another registry and adding you to the terror watch list (if you're not already on one after c-51). If they consider farmers possible terrorists, what are they going to think of you owning a firearm? Once you are considered a terrorist, they can freely treat you differently.

They have a civil engineer as minister of public safety. How fitting.
Farmers on the watch list?....pretty weak calling Weibo a farmer, and oil equipment (?) on his property?...or did I mistake where you got that piece of info from? ....and we have a social worker as Minister of Finance, pretty sure that trumps your civil engineer on the ridiculous scale

[Elixr]

You keep throwing abiding in... Abiding has nothing to do with this - but take this as you wish...

In Canada, some farmers are on a domestic terror watch list - because they have oil equipment on their property. Farmers, dangerous people aren't they. Animal activists, PETA, Canadian freeman are on the list of domestic terrorists and the list goes on...

This is before C-51 passed. Imagine what the list is like now? Anyone can be a terrorist - and anyone can be classified as one whether you are one or not.

Lets look to the future. Government knows that many individuals didn't register their firearms - so lets have a little fun with it this time around.

Say the NDP get into power, or the Libs - they want to ban your guns. There is nothing stopping them from creating another registry and adding you to the terror watch list (if you're not already on one after c-51). If they consider farmers possible terrorists, what are they going to think of you owning a firearm? Once you are considered a terrorist, they can freely treat you differently.

They have a civil engineer as minister of public safety. How fitting.

The only act of terror they could charge me with is in my golf game.

Foooouuurrrrr !!!!!!


It all seems too crazy to be true but then again it is the gubmint :sHa_sarcasticlol:

[silverdoctor]

Farmers on the watch list?....pretty weak calling Weibo a farmer, and oil equipment (?) on his property?...or did I mistake where you got that piece of info from? ....and we have a social worker as Minister of Finance, pretty sure that trumps your civil engineer on the ridiculous scale

CSIS does have a website, feel free to check out their public list. I posted it on the forum already quite a while back.

Feel free to heckle.

[Elixr]

What if you were a gun owning terrorist? Might affect you. :sHa_shakeshout:

You'll never catch me alive coppaa !!!!!

My Cagney impersonation :sHa_shakeshout:

Maybe its better you dont see it lol

[silverdoctor]

Lets get a little reminder here...

February 26, 2014 - confirmed CZ858 reclassified. Some Canadians are now paper criminals. Turn them in and get nothing in return. Do you really believe this has anything to do with "law abiding"?

For two weeks, Canadians that own these firearms are considered criminals.

March 13, 2014 - Amnesty set in place. Amnesty means you can own it and not be prosecuted but hey, you can't transport it or use it. What's the frigging use of it.

July 23, 2014 - these firearms are back to the status prior to February 26th.


So for 4 1/2 months, owners of these firearms could not use them. With the stroke of a pen, the RCMP made criminals out of certain individuals and it took nearly 5 months to straighten out the mess? You're not a threat to public safety at all...


Now it's the blaze 47, a 22LR, banned cause it looks scary. No testing done on it that I can see, but just the perception. Couple of cops went to Vegas, seen it and said we can't have that in Canada.

Yeah, the CPC laws really have bite. Who's running the show here?

[Redfrog]

Keep on being facetious Red, that's really going to save your firearms.

Let me ask you. The NFA was very vocal about C-51 entrenching the "police state" in Canada.

Why did they back out down? Why did they not speak their piece?

Have you ever changed your mind?

What if after sober second thought they decided it was a good bill over all?

If you need their contact info, I can google it for you.:)

I know a ton of farmers and not one terrorist.

You seem to think legal stuff can be made into a law in an afternoon from concept to finished product. Even if that were possible the opinions of others must be taken into account as well as yours, so the end product may not be exactly what you want.

The solution to this dilemma is of course to keep bashing old gunowners from Bodo who may or may not be on Steve's wish list. I've seen a lot of your posts simply railing about how gunowners are stupid, disorganized, and in effective, but not a lot of suggestions for change.

The gun registry that was in place for many years is gone. It cost much more to implement that it did to dismantle it. BTW it was not the CPC who brought it in, but it was the CPC who tossed it out.

You seem to think everything should be perfect with no hiccups, like they are in NFLD. , but NFLD has been part of the country since 1949. Even without C51 we still have no codfish fishing in Alberta in spite of the number of Newfoundlanders, who want a cod boil now and then.

[silverdoctor]

Have you ever changed your mind?

What if after sober second thought they decided it was a good bill over all?

If you need their contact info, I can google it for you.:)

I know a ton of farmers and not one terrorist.

You seem to think legal stuff can be made into a law in an afternoon from concept to finished product. Even if that were possible the opinions of others must be taken into account as well as yours, so the end product may not be exactly what you want.

The solution to this dilemma is of course to keep bashing old gunowners from Bodo who may or may not be on Steve's wish list. I've seen a lot of your posts simply railing about how gunowners are stupid, disorganized, and in effective, but not a lot of suggestions for change.

The gun registry that was in place for many years is gone. It cost much more to implement that it did to dismantle it. BTW it was not the CPC who brought it in, but it was the CPC who tossed it out.

You seem to think everything should be perfect with no hiccups, like they are in NFLD. , but NFLD has been part of the country since 1949. Even without C51 we still have no codfish fishing in Alberta in spite of the number of Newfoundlanders, who want a cod boil now and then.

NFA is a member of the Protect our Privacy Coalition, but yet they backed down after being vocal "against" C-51. You want to claim that they figured it was a good bill? You are your own worst enemy Red. To date, there has been NO response to the question of why they pulled out.

Sheldon Clare - opponent of C-51 is now running independent.
https://openmedia.ca/blog/prince-george-citizen-c-51-opponent-sheldon-clare-discusses-his-candidacy-cariboo-prince-george

I think you got sold out personally.

[Mistagin]

Pottery and basket weaving? :sHa_sarcasticlol::sHa_sarcasticlol::scared0018:


OH COME ON someone had to poke that bear:fighting0030:

And now courses on Beyonce can be taken to get that degree:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/beyonce-101-canadian-researchers-offer-university-courses-studying-pop-superstar-1.3207221 :scared0018:

[Mistagin]

You keep throwing abiding in... Abiding has nothing to do with this - but take this as you wish...

In Canada, some farmers are on a domestic terror watch list - because they have oil equipment on their property. Farmers, dangerous people aren't they. Animal activists, PETA, Canadian freeman are on the list of domestic terrorists and the list goes on...

This is before C-51 passed. Imagine what the list is like now? Anyone can be a terrorist - and anyone can be classified as one whether you are one or not.

Lets look to the future. Government knows that many individuals didn't register their firearms - so lets have a little fun with it this time around.

Say the NDP get into power, or the Libs - they want to ban your guns. There is nothing stopping them from creating another registry and adding you to the terror watch list (if you're not already on one after c-51). If they consider farmers possible terrorists, what are they going to think of you owning a firearm? Once you are considered a terrorist, they can freely treat you differently.

They have a civil engineer as minister of public safety. How fitting.

But, SD you forgot one thing with your scenario - the Libs say they'll change c-51, and Tommie's team say they'll drop it altogether - so they can't add anyone the 'the list' (unless they turn out to be liars!) :scared0018:

[silverdoctor]

But, SD you forgot one thing with your scenario - the Libs say they'll change c-51, and Tommie's team say they'll drop it altogether - so they can't add anyone the 'the list' (unless they turn out to be liars!) :scared0018:

I call BS to that as well, C-51 is in place and will stay, no matter who is in power.

Any rights to firearms you had were legislated away... Did you ever get them back? You lose rights, you don't get them back.

The charter has been ripped apart.

[Mistagin]

I call BS to that as well, C-51 is in place and will stay, no matter who is in power.

Any rights to firearms you had were legislated away... Did you ever get them back? You lose rights, you don't get them back.

The charter has been ripped apart.

So you are admitting they (NDP and Libs) are liars? :sHa_shakeshout:

[silverdoctor]

So you are admitting they (NDP and Libs) are liars? :sHa_shakeshout:

All are liars, every one of them. Cons are included.

[Redfrog]

NFA is a member of the Protect our Privacy Coalition, but yet they backed down after being vocal "against" C-51. You want to claim that they figured it was a good bill? You are your own worst enemy Red. To date, there has been NO response to the question of why they pulled out.

Sheldon Clare - opponent of C-51 is now running independent.
https://openmedia.ca/blog/prince-george-citizen-c-51-opponent-sheldon-clare-discusses-his-candidacy-cariboo-prince-george

I think you got sold out personally.

The odds of an independent being wrong about something are better than the dips being wrong about it.

Read what he says.in the article. WAAAH! WAAAH! WAAAH! and not one positive suggestion. Hmm sounds familiar.

What did the NFA tell you when you asked them?

And BTW I'm not my worst enemy, I'm my biggest fan.:sHa_shakeshout:

[silverdoctor]

The odds of an independent being wrong about something are better than the dips being wrong about it.

Read what he says.in the article. WAAAH! WAAAH! WAAAH! and not one positive suggestion. Hmm sounds familiar.

What did the NFA tell you when you asked them?

And BTW I'm not my worst enemy, I'm my biggest fan.:sHa_shakeshout:

One can never get a straight up answer out of some...

If Harper doesn't get his majority Red, then you indeed have much to hide and much to fear. Enjoy...

We haven't seen the ramifications yet. Police keep pushing for more and more unwarranted access to many things. Now they want to go after your mail. When is it enough?

[Mistagin]

All are liars, every one of them. Cons are included.

Amen :). The trick is to figure out which liars are most credible and believable. So far I'm not hearing much credibility or truth from any of them.

Note: I'm not saying every politician is a pathological liar, some lie by 'omission' or riding the coattails of the party. I know a few (from every party) who are honest people of integrity. But the parties themselves can certainly be considered as skilled, manipulative 'liars' - especially in election campaigns. And their media puppets make things worse.

[Elixr]

One can never get a straight up answer out of some...

If Harper doesn't get his majority Red, then you indeed have much to hide and much to fear. Enjoy...

We haven't seen the ramifications yet. Police keep pushing for more and more unwarranted access to many things. Now they want to go after your mail. When is it enough?

So tell us what to do ?

[sns2]

Watch your mouth kiddo

Watch your mouth, Luxor. A few people have figured it out already and it's just a matter of time before the mods do too.

[sns2]

He is radical, those who beleive he isnt are weak in the mind, his concerns for the enviroment are uneducated dribble,his plan for balancing the budget enrealistic and i already paid for daycare twice and i am not paying for yours's

Good news for your tax dollars is that I'm out of that stage too.

It doesn't matter what you believe, Alberta will go PC, but the rest of Canada is looking at these few months and making their decisions.

Feel free to find me any quotes of Mulcair's, since the election was called, that appear to be radical for the average Canadian who does not live in Alberta. Maybe you can, but I bet you can't.

[silverdoctor]

So tell us what to do ?

Why should I be expected to tell you what to do? Can't even get people to sign a friggin petition.

You're dependent on a vote - and hoping the rest of the country votes your way.

Sad. You're stuck.

[Elixr]

Why should I be expected to tell you what to do? Can't even get people to sign a friggin petition.

You're dependent on a vote - and hoping the rest of the country votes your way.

Sad. You're stuck.

Can we start a petition to give Harper another term?

[silverdoctor]

You know what needs to be done? I've searched the internet both high and low, know what's missing?

A neutral place to discuss firearms and all things hunting. It's either far left or far right, nothing in between. There's alot of people in Canada that want to know about firearms, and there's alot on the fence about it and there's a huge stigma over it. There are people that have questions, but they won't get answers from a place like this.

Do you think AO is neutral? Not by a long shot. Anyone says anything about a firearm in a negative light is tarred and feathered and hung up by the ears.

[Elixr]

You know what needs to be done? I've searched the internet both high and low, know what's missing?

A neutral place to discuss firearms and all things hunting. It's either far left or far right, nothing in between. There's alot of people in Canada that want to know about firearms, and there's alot on the fence about it and there's a huge stigma over it. There are people that have questions, but they won't get answers from a place like this.

Do you think AO is neutral? Not by a long shot. Anyone says anything about a firearm in a negative light is tarred and feathered and hung up by the ears.

This is Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum

Where the activities of hunting fishing and outdoors activities are positively encouraged.

Nuff said ?????:sign0016:

[sns2]

No comment, Luxor (elixir)???

You've never been one to stay quiet yet, why start now???

[silverdoctor]

This is Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum

Where the activities of hunting fishing and outdoors activities are positively encouraged.

Nuff said ?????:sign0016:

Yes. But the negativity is a huge turnoff.

Firearms and hunters tearing each other apart? That's the norm?

By neutral, I mean a place people can ask questions - both negative and positive without getting reamed out.

[Elixr]

Yes. But the negativity is a huge turnoff.

Firearms and hunters tearing each other apart? That's the norm?

By neutral, I mean a place people can ask questions - both negative and positive without getting reamed out.

Well I can support that to a degree.
As long as I dont have to be neutral on Libs and Dems lol

[silverdoctor]

Well I can support that to a degree.
As long as I dont have to be neutral on Libs and Dems lol

If you could change the mind of one anti, just one... What would that take? What would you be willing to do for that?

I really think the attitude of members of this forum is doing more harm than good to be honest.

[Elixr]

I will say this though

The more the Alberta NDP screws up before the Fed election the better.
Hopefully voters will see the error of their judgements
Hopefully

[purgatory.sv]

If you could change the mind of one anti, just one... What would that take? What would you be willing to do for that?

I really think the attitude of members of this forum is doing more harm than good to be honest.




agree

[Redfrog]

"One can never get a straight up answer out of some..." HMHMM.?

"What did the NFA tell you when you asked them?" HMMM?

Is this what you're talking about?


Or this?

"Why should I be expected to tell you what to do?"

"I really think the attitude of members of this forum is doing more harm than good to be honest."


or this

" But the negativity is a huge turnoff. "

do you need me to email a mirror to you?:) Or do your statements only apply to others?


I've asked you many times for some positive input and what I have gotten so far is to follow the fine example of Teresa Spence and protest like the Indians do.

We did that before the long gun registry was in place. The libs ignored us.
The Cons listened and did away with the long gun registry.

Again you seem to think an idea is hatched at 9. am. and law by noon and changed by closing time. It's a process a little more involved.

You are on a hunting forum and expect members to hold hands when someone talks negatively about gun ownership. We are passionate about our rights, even more so when they have been taken from us.

So their is no neutral ground. You are part of the solution or part of the problem or you have no skin in the game.

Support me or call an anti when you need someone with a gun to protect you or your property. It's no more complicated than that.

[silverdoctor]

"One can never get a straight up answer out of some..." HMHMM.?

"What did the NFA tell you when you asked them?" HMMM?

Is this what you're talking about?


Or this?

"Why should I be expected to tell you what to do?"

"I really think the attitude of members of this forum is doing more harm than good to be honest."


or this

" But the negativity is a huge turnoff. "

do you need me to email a mirror to you?:) Or do your statements only apply to others?


I've asked you many times for some positive input and what I have gotten so far is to follow the fine example of Teresa Spence and protest like the Indians do.

We did that before the long gun registry was in place. The libs ignored us.
The Cons listened and did away with the long gun registry.

Again you seem to think an idea is hatched at 9. am. and law by noon and changed by closing time. It's a process a little more involved.

You are on a hunting forum and expect members to hold hands when someone talks negatively about gun ownership. We are passionate about our rights, even more so when they have been taken from us.

So their is no neutral ground. You are part of the solution or part of the problem or you have no skin in the game.

Support me or call an anti when you need someone with a gun to protect you or your property. It's no more complicated than that.

I've suggested twice now that people need a neutral forum, some sort of online sandbox that is firearms neutral, a place where folks can go and not get their assets chewed on. That is missing, doesn't seem to exist.

Something like this would have to be heavily controlled and anyone should be allowed to speak their mind - anti or on the fence. Proponents of firearms and hunting must stay neutral. I could foresee many questions asked and at least a few negative minds changed. Getting folks to turn from negative to positive won't be easy but damn red, someone has to try. What do you stand to lose?

[silverdoctor]

Gotta love the sound of silence...

[Opa]

The NDP candidate came to my door today, wanting to talk. I invited her in for a coffee, and as we sat at the table on the deck, I asked what she wanted to talk about.

She said, "I don't know, no one has invited me in before!!!!!!"

The dog growled & barked. Even the dog recognizes a would be bs'er. The dipper spooked, left her coffee and buggered off. I think that the dog would have done the same(with minimal encouragement)with the lieb or greenie. He would have been much tolerant of the incumbent.

[Elixr]

The NDP candidate came to my door today, wanting to talk. I invited her in for a coffee, and as we sat at the table on the deck, I asked what she wanted to talk about.

She said, "I don't know, no one has invited me in before!!!!!!"

The dog growled & barked. Even the dog recognizes a would be bs'er. The dipper spooked, left her coffee and buggered off. I think that the dog would have done the same(with minimal encouragement)with the lieb or greenie. He would have been much tolerant of the incumbent.

Thats awesome
Can I bring my dog over for some training? :sHa_shakeshout:

[Opa]

He is a large dachsy - he hates JW's too!!! I guess my wife taught Fritz well.

[sdvc]

What is that chico talking about being neutered so you can do what then? NDP all about Social engineering eh?

[Elixr]

He is a large dachsy - he hates JW's too!!! I guess my wife taught Fritz well.

Hahaha

Cheers to your wife sir :happy0180:

[jakebrake]

To the people who hate the oil and gas industry I would like to see how long they would last in our Canadian winter with no heat in thier houses.

[Elixr]

To the people who hate the oil and gas industry I would like to see how long they would last in our Canadian winter with no heat in thier houses.

Some people live off wood burning or electric heaters
Ya I know its not common.
And some people move south for the winter

just sayin

[hal53]

Some people live off wood burning or electric heaters
Ya I know its not common.
And some people move south for the winter

just sayin
Hmmm???....those that move south for the winter, do they walk or ride a horse?..:)

[Elixr]

Hmmm???....those that move south for the winter, do they walk or ride a horse?..:)

Maybe a bicycle

Im just being silly hal

Maybe the NDP is wearing on me

[hal53]

Maybe a bicycle

Im just being silly hal

Maybe the NDP is wearing on me
just joking as well......

[Elixr]

just joking as well......

Too bad the NDP is such a bad joke that must be taken seriously.

Stressful times indeed :sleep-043:

[purgatory.sv]

Gotta love the sound of silence...



Silence is ok.

But the sound of a burning controlled fire is good.


I have already conceded certain rights; the others will only understand when the fire they like is controlled.

[Elixr]

Silence is ok.

But the sound of a burning controlled fire is good.


I have already conceded certain rights; the others will only understand when the fire they like is controlled.

I want to meet you in person.

Even more than Jesus Christ himself :Lightning:

[super7mag]

A Fedral NDP Gov. Would be just like Jones town times 25,000. It's economic suicide, and moral suicide. And once again it's the youngsters that would see the first effect.
When people flap gums about drinking the cool- aid maybe they should research the socialist dream. Tommy the Commie is less out spoken as Jimmy Jones but has the same end plan. Bad enough we have to deal with the aftermath if a provincial economic suicide never mind a Fedral one.
Someone please wiki check the meaning of PANDERING !! Tommy the Commie will soon have a vagina if he keeps it up, hate to see how mad he can be while suffering from PMS.

[purgatory.sv]

I am a troll.


I have to keep moving, as the water or wind?

Thor has not given me a pass.

That part is in reference to whatever?

Play safe.


Your interactions, regardless of id propagate thought.

[super7mag]

I am a troll.


I have to keep moving, as the water or wind?

Thor has not given me a pass.

That part is in reference to whatever?

Play safe.


Your interactions, regardless of id propagate thought.

Troll away !! I like fire .

[purgatory.sv]

I am only a pawn; we do have value, unfortunately not on the grand scale.


Our participation is required but commitment is always questioned.


As a pawn I can influence my interaction, not the whole.

That is why health care in Canada is consistent.

[super7mag]

I am only a pawn; we do have value, unfortunately not on the grand scale.


Our participation is required but commitment is always questioned.


As a pawn I can influence my interaction, not the whole.

That is why health care in Canada is consistent.

Are you saying " we as a human race are insignificant in the broad sprectrum of being? And only our ignorance and arrogance let our minds perpetuate we actually matter. " ya I like fire too!
In my short time in existence though I don't need to be ruled by a socialist commie wanna be, but that's just me , apparently some are fine with that.
So until armeggedon I will stay true to myself and my family .

[purgatory.sv]

Are you saying " we as a human race are insignificant in the broad sprectrum of being? And only our ignorance and arrogance let our minds perpetuate we actually matter. " ya I like fire too!
In my short time in existence though I don't need to be ruled by a socialist commie wanna be, but that's just me , apparently some are fine with that.
So until armeggedon I will stay true to myself and my family .

No.

[purgatory.sv]

Are you saying " we as a human race are insignificant in the broad sprectrum of being? And only our ignorance and arrogance let our minds perpetuate we actually matter. " ya I like fire too!
In my short time in existence though I don't need to be ruled by a socialist commie wanna be, but that's just me , apparently some are fine with that.
So until armeggedon I will stay true to myself and my family .



When Armageddon occurs will your family grow?

[super7mag]

Why don't you ask the cretaceous if they grew. Fire or ICE?

[purgatory.sv]

As I have said, I troll.

But I prefer to be warm.