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Tom Pullings
12-28-2015, 08:21 PM
Hey friends. Just wondering if it's normal for the fishing to be slow at the start of the hardwater season? This is my first year on the ice and I've only managed one small pike at a lake where I average about 10 per hour in the summer.

FlyTheory
12-28-2015, 08:25 PM
That doesn't sound too out of the ordinary to me. Somedays she's slow, especially if you don't use a tip up. Honestly it could be the days you've been going with cold fronts and whatnot? Good luck on your next outing

Sigg
12-28-2015, 08:28 PM
I've found January to be very slow for me the last few years, haven't gone out much during December.

PlayDoh
12-28-2015, 08:39 PM
This is only second year on the ice but I've noticed the opposite. Yet I don't expect what I learned last year to be a pattern until I notice it many more times.
You have to realize that fish are cold blooded and the water temp greatly effects their expendable energy. They will move less in the winter.
That means you have to find the fish or catch very little. I haven't been skunked in a long time on the boat, but come close. Now a slow day on a boat is a for sure skunk when you only fish in a dozen or so spots on ice.
Your going to have to do more scouting and take notes on time of day and such. Also try using a Solunar chart to pick days and times to go.

PlayDoh
12-28-2015, 08:45 PM
IMO ice fishing with a flasher is a must, unless you only go a couple times and like to let chance dictate your success. Some will say a camera is a must, I won't go that far but it's a big help.
Fish don't have weeds or have very little like they do in open water. So other forms of structure become more important. Often structure as simple as sand bottom meets rocky bottom. If pike are you target, choose shallower bays and find points.

PlayDoh
12-28-2015, 08:55 PM
I just upgraded to a Humminbird ice 35 from my boats HB 778 with Ice fishing mode. The Ice 35 is quite a bit more accurate and I had very picky Walleye a couple days ago. I thought they were pike cause pike like to stare at your bait for a long time.
Most times I notice the eyes like the bait right on the bottom. Well the other day I could only get a few of the larger eyes to strike when I got them to follow the bait up 3-4 feet, and even then it took a bit.
Now with my old sonar/flasher I wouldn't have seen as much enough to trigger those strikes, most likely. And without a flasher at all I would have just assumed there were no fish at all.
If you don't have a flasher, get one if your serious. And then punch lots of holes and move until you mark fish.
Use a noisy lure like a rattlin rapala and jig aggressively near the bottom and wait 5-10 mins to see if anything comes for a look. If not, move 20' or more laterally but 5' depth wise and try again.
If you find a friend but he won't bite switch to a jigging spoon with a minnow or bait if your choice.

PlayDoh
12-28-2015, 09:02 PM
What lake are you fishing? What are you targeting? What depths and spots are you fishing? By "spots" I mean structure type, not actual location.
Try fishing spots you find the fish at in late fall.

Tom Pullings
12-28-2015, 10:01 PM
All good food for thought guys. I don't have any electronics at all. I like to keep it simple. Even in the summer I just mostly fish out of my kayak. I have tried making lots of noise with rattling lipless cranks and tried jigging spoons. I've tried every type of lure and bait actually. And I've tried drilling dozens of holes and moving all over the lake. My only pike so far came on the tip up. Maybe it's just bad luck to start the season.

Kim473
12-29-2015, 03:47 AM
Hard water usually picks up in Feb or so. Lots of variables to concider. Low presure system, wind from the east, cloud cover, sunny, full moon, no moon, clear/cloudy water, etc.... But ya, bites will start to pick up in Feb.

Newellknik
12-29-2015, 06:02 AM
Where there are pike ,it's the bait ....there's also a tendency to not
Fish shallow enough . If it's your first year ,you have to have the
Right presentation and bait .

Tom Pullings
12-29-2015, 08:10 AM
Not shallow enough could very well be it!

d bowhunter
12-29-2015, 08:43 AM
Last year most of the pike we got were in about 20 ft of water right on the bottom, most were over 63 caught around 11am till about 2pm i was surprize to catch them so deep but where there is perch there are pike.

Mitchthefisher
12-29-2015, 09:11 AM
I fish 8-14fow for pike and have very good success.

Deep
12-29-2015, 09:45 AM
I agree with Kim....and yes, try 10 ft or less of depth.

TROLLER
12-29-2015, 10:08 AM
Where you catch them in the summer is something you should forget.

Under 10 FOW and as close to a weed bed as you can get

Tom Pullings
01-05-2016, 10:59 AM
How deep should one fish for trout this time of year I wonder? I can't catch any of those either it seems.

Fishslayer99
01-05-2016, 04:43 PM
Best pike fishing for me is 6 foot or less, I have caught plenty of pike in only 3 feet of water.

CMichaud
01-05-2016, 05:09 PM
Hard water usually picks up in Feb or so. Lots of variables to concider. Low presure system, wind from the east, cloud cover, sunny, full moon, no moon, clear/cloudy water, etc.... But ya, bites will start to pick up in Feb.

Can you expand on these variables?

Thanks

marlin1
01-05-2016, 05:48 PM
Hard water usually picks up in Feb or so. Lots of variables to concider. Low presure system, wind from the east, cloud cover, sunny, full moon, no moon, clear/cloudy water, etc.... But ya, bites will start to pick up in Feb.

I agree with this post . My old fishin buddies that have been out have reported poor fishin SO FAR :)

fish99
01-05-2016, 06:14 PM
I agree with this post . My old fishin buddies that have been out have reported poor fishin SO FAR :)

who you calling old ha ha

marlin1
01-06-2016, 08:29 AM
not including any reports from you fish99 . You haven't given me any , lol

fish99
01-06-2016, 07:21 PM
not including any reports from you fish99 . You haven't given me any , lol

heading out on friday we will have report for you on monday ,call you then , last week was ok for small perch.

PerchBuster
01-06-2016, 08:47 PM
Just remember that fish feed all the time year round, they don't take a month off! If you're not having success you simply need to change tactics, presentations, locations, and times until you find something that works.They all don't eat at the same together and at any given time on a body of water there will be a portion of the population ready and willing to feed and the balance are neutral to negative.....or maybe just full already lol! A fish really only has 3 goals in life....Eat, Breed, and Survive. Experimentation is a wonderful teacher.

Pikebreath
01-06-2016, 09:43 PM
Fishing tends to get tougher during the dog days of summer,, end of July through mid to late August,,,, same goes for winter, catch rates typically tail off end of Dec through January,,,, both times of the year represent the extreme ends of the temp scale.

This is not saying that fish can't be caught at those times of year,,,, just what worked in the month or two before doesn't always produce results in the dog days of summer or the dead of winter.

Creel surveys typically show that catch rates improve through Feb into March when the days start getting noticeably longer.

For ice fisherman, first ice and last ice can be magic.

EZM
01-06-2016, 10:04 PM
I use my GPS to get me to the drop off and set up right along the drop off and do quite well. Some tip ups go shallow, and others go deep. It seems to me that low light (mornings and late evening) the shallow tips up work better. The rest of day the deeper ones usually do better.

That's been my observation anyways.

wbaj
01-06-2016, 10:14 PM
Just remember that fish feed all the time year round, they don't take a month off! If you're not having success you simply need to change tactics, presentations, locations, and times until you find something that works.They all don't eat at the same together and at any given time on a body of water there will be a portion of the population ready and willing to feed and the balance are neutral to negative.....or maybe just full already lol! A fish really only has 3 goals in life....Eat, Breed, and Survive. Experimentation is a wonderful teacher.

Totally agree with you pearchbuster, it's my philosophy that somewhere in the lake I'm fishing, somehow a fish can always be coaxed into biting. If I'm getting skunked I'll try stuff I've never tried before, whether it's a long forgotten hook or a technique I've read about or been told about, I'll give it a try.
It's amazing how often it works in getting a bite.
Mind you don't think I've never been skunked cause I do!

top_angler
01-08-2016, 07:06 PM
I agree with Kim....and yes, try 10 ft or less of depth.

Something wrong with this guy:sign0161:

PlayDoh
01-08-2016, 07:18 PM
Some notes from my Lindner books is to remember fish don't feed constantly.
Also to try and think of fish as a land animal. They will move to different spots for different reasons. And it's almost always due to the lake/river bottom.
I'm not doing the best job of explaining what they wrote, but I found it helpful to think that way. It makes fish a lil less mysterious.

DOGFISH
01-09-2016, 11:53 AM
Oxygen levels, cover/structure and feed tend to be large factors as well. Moving around can up your success sometimes. January can be slow for sure.

Legend Boats
02-20-2016, 09:13 AM
Fishing first ice can either be slow or extremely fun. It will take a bit for the fish to adjust to the conditions but once you find them. They should hold around the same area all winter long. During your summer adventures on the lake, take note of weed lines and how healthy they are. This will give you a good base to start your search for finding fish. Drill a couple of holes and have a peek, if you still see weed growth. It’s probably a good indication to start fishing for a bit and see what comes about it. Hope this helps, Tight Lines.
Cheers Henry - Legend Boats