Company vehicle & texting drivers

[Twisted Canuck]

So you see somebody driving a company truck, with the unit # clearly displayed. The driver is texting while driving, not maintaining his lane, or driving speed limit. Texting entire time he is at red light, 5 second delay before he realizes light turns green. Do you call it in to the company and report it, or do you ignore it because everyone else is doing it? Or do you take a picture of the unit to go with the report you are going to call in? I see way too many people texting, while driving, and many are driving company vehicles. Almost got side swiped by one today. Somebody is going to get his pp whacked when he gets back to the shop, hopefully.

[sewerrat]

Personally I don't care what people do behind the wheel, as long as their head is with it, and pay attention to the road, one day they will get caught.


I did however call one guy in that was driving a company truck, he was just pushing and riding my bumper on QE2. good think that truck had a phone number on the tailgate.

[fish_e_o]

yup bikes are out and if that guy isn't concentrating someone like me could be mush.

pay attention to the road

[rugatika]

Depends. If he's swerving all over the place, texting in moving traffic, through residential or school zones etc, I would likely report him. If he's texting at a red light and in obvious control of his vehicle I'm not going to get him in trouble. I'd likely just honk my horn at him if he was sitting at the red light too long.

So many terrible drivers on the roads these days and getting worse all the time, I think the police should start cracking down on the people that can't merge, got their drivers licences from one of those cracker jack driver ed places etc.

[Twisted Canuck]

Depends. If he's swerving all over the place, texting in moving traffic, through residential or school zones etc, I would likely report him. If he's texting at a red light and in obvious control of his vehicle I'm not going to get him in trouble. I'd likely just honk my horn at him if he was sitting at the red light too long.


That's pretty much my position too, but when they keep texting after light turns green, and keep texting for another couple hundred meters, while straying from lane, and almost clipping me....my patience with you is up. You deserve to get a butt chewing from your boss at that point, since you can't hear me screaming at you.

[rugatika]

That's pretty much my position too, but when they keep texting after light turns green, and keep texting for another couple hundred meters, while straying from lane, and almost clipping me....my patience with you is up. You deserve to get a butt chewing from your boss at that point, since you can't hear me screaming at you.

Yep, when they are almost causing accidents or hurting someone else...time to get them off the road.

[bobtodrick]

About 10 years ago I was sitting at an intersection in the middle lane of a 3 lane roadway, vehicles on both sides of me...meaning no where to go.
I looked in the review mirror and bearing down on me was a 3/4 ton from an Edmonton car dealership...and he wasn't slowing down.
I got to sit and watch while he ran into my back end.
A 1998 Volvo...very sturdy car.
The trunk ended up where my back window was and one of the officers who attended said that if it hadn't been a Volvo my injuries would likely be much mor serious.
The drivers excuse...he was looking down at the clipboard on his seat with his next work order on it.
Since then I don't have much tolerance for distracted driving.
And if it's a company vehicle with a phone number on it I have no problem at all calling it in.

[kidd]

Two years ago this month I was broadsided by a texting driver. Rolled my truck in the process. Scary event. I have no patience for distracted drivers. Think about it. Driving a vehicle down the road without your eyes where you are going is absolutely ridiculous and terribly dangerous.
I am not shy about telling them how I feel and I would call in to the company, yes. Someone will probably punch me over it one of these days.
kidd

[RolHammer]

I look at this from the pov of the company owner - yes, absolutely I would want to know if one of my staff were behaving in a manner that was unsafe, regardless of the reason. I certainly wouldn't turf the guy on a first offence, but it would definitely form a data point that would either drop out of his file if it stayed an anomaly, or be used to draw a line out the door if it continued.

[TROLLER]

No hesitation whatsoever to phone it in. If a guy is texting from a co. vehicle he most likely is breaking company rules as well as endangering everyone else on the road.

[gman1978]

If I had to report every single truck I see with somebody texting I would have to increase the usage on my phone plan.

[Positrac]

No hesitation whatsoever to phone it in. If a guy is texting from a co. vehicle he most likely is breaking company rules as well as endangering everyone else on the road.


I feel about the same way. If you are stupid enough to be breaking the law while driving a motorized billboard with your employers name and phone number on it then you get whatever is coming to you.

[Twisted Canuck]

I look at this from the pov of the company owner - yes, absolutely I would want to know if one of my staff were behaving in a manner that was unsafe, regardless of the reason. I certainly wouldn't turf the guy on a first offence, but it would definitely form a data point that would either drop out of his file if it stayed an anomaly, or be used to draw a line out the door if it continued.

That's a different perspective, but a very valid one. I run a business but my guys drive their own, not company vehicles. If they were driving my vehicle, with my business info on side, I'd be seriously choked about them driving in an unsafe manner, both from a professional and safety perspective. Not to mention insurance premiums if they hit someone.

[Purple Farmer]

I look at this from the pov of the company owner - yes, absolutely I would want to know if one of my staff were behaving in a manner that was unsafe, regardless of the reason. I certainly wouldn't turf the guy on a first offence, but it would definitely form a data point that would either drop out of his file if it stayed an anomaly, or be used to draw a line out the door if it continued.

This, there's a reason the unit # is on the truck.

[waterninja]

No hesitation whatsoever to phone it in. If a guy is texting from a co. vehicle he most likely is breaking company rules as well as endangering everyone else on the road.
So it's ok for you to use your cell phone to complain about someone else using theirs?

[cdmc]

Little while back nobody batted an eye at someone on a phone.
Law came and saw a way to fill it's pockets, now all the sheeple are upset.

Pull your head out of your rear end pal. Get a guy fired. Feel real good about yourself.

[waterninja]

Heres a question for the members. I get a complaint about one of my employees texting on his phone while driving one of my marked company vehicles. I ask him about it and he responds that the complaint is groundless and whoever called it in is just some crybaby who is having a bad day and can't mind his own buisness.
Would I, or should I be allowed to look at his phone text/call log to see if he was using his cell phone at the time of the complaint?

[JustMe]

Little while back nobody batted an eye at someone on a phone.

Law came and saw a way to fill it's pockets, now all the sheeple are upset.



Pull your head out of your rear end pal. Get a guy fired. Feel real good about yourself.



Yeah, it'd be away better if someone got killed? Maybe one of your family? Feel good about yourself yet?

Respect is what is lacking, respect for self, respect for others, respect for the law.

[elkhunter11]

So it's ok for you to use your cell phone to complain about someone else using theirs?

You can be in a vehicle without being the driver.:rolleye2:

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Heres a question for the members. I get a complaint about one of my employees texting on his phone while driving one of my marked company vehicles. I ask him about it and he responds that the complaint is groundless and whoever called it in is just some crybaby who is having a bad day and can't mind his own buisness.
Would I, or should I be allowed to look at his phone text/call log to see if he was using his cell phone at the time of the complaint?

So you receive a few complaints about a driver being on his cell phone when driving your company truck, and you do nothing. Then a week later the driver has an accident with your company truck, while on the phone and someone is killed. Would you or should you be legally liable for the person being killed?

[blgoodbrand1]

Heres a question for the members. I get a complaint about one of my employees texting on his phone while driving one of my marked company vehicles. I ask him about it and he responds that the complaint is groundless and whoever called it in is just some crybaby who is having a bad day and can't mind his own buisness.

Would I, or should I be allowed to look at his phone text/call log to see if he was using his cell phone at the time of the complaint?


No.

[cdmc]

Yeah, it'd be away better if someone got killed? Maybe one of your family? Feel good about yourself yet?

Respect is what is lacking, respect for self, respect for others, respect for the law.

Take a couple Xanax comrade

[JustMe]

Take a couple Xanax comrade



Sorry, my mistake. Didn't realize it was your 16th birthday today. I apologize....

[catnthehat]

Heres a question for the members. I get a complaint about one of my employees texting on his phone while driving one of my marked company vehicles. I ask him about it and he responds that the complaint is groundless and whoever called it in is just some crybaby who is having a bad day and can't mind his own buisness.
Would I, or should I be allowed to look at his phone text/call log to see if he was using his cell phone at the time of the complaint?

If it were me that was being accused I would offer to let my boss see my phone .
The best defence is a good offence!:)
Cat

[waterninja]

You can be in a vehicle without being the driver.:rolleye2:

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So you receive a few complaints about a driver being on his cell phone when driving your company truck, and you do nothing. Then a week later the driver has an accident with your company truck, while on the phone and someone is killed. Would you or should you be legally liable for the person being killed?
What I'm getting at is how does someone know if a complaint is legitimate or not?

[Purple Farmer]

Heres a question for the members. I get a complaint about one of my employees texting on his phone while driving one of my marked company vehicles. I ask him about it and he responds that the complaint is groundless and whoever called it in is just some crybaby who is having a bad day and can't mind his own buisness.
Would I, or should I be allowed to look at his phone text/call log to see if he was using his cell phone at the time of the complaint?

Before you check his phone you need to ask yourself if you believe that your employee is telling the truth? If the answer is yes there's no need to check his phone and if the answer is no.... Then you already have enough reason to find a new employee.

[Twisted Canuck]

What I'm getting at is how does someone know if a complaint is legitimate or not?

Do you want to wait till someone is crippled or killed before you act?

[waterninja]

If it were me that was being accused I would offer to let my boss see my phone .
The best defence is a good offence!:)
Cat
I agree Cat, and what you say makes sense, but if you have done nothing wrong then why should you have to show someone your phone? Seems like an invasion of privacy.
If you don't show your boss your phone then are you assumed to be guilty?

[Ranets]

Little while back nobody batted an eye at someone on a phone.
Law came and saw a way to fill it's pockets, now all the sheeple are upset.

Pull your head out of your rear end pal. Get a guy fired. Feel real good about yourself.

yes I would feel good about myself by keeping some idiot from killing or injuring someone else. Just as bad as impaired driving but I suppose people should bury their heads in the sand and ignore statistics because it might inconvenience someone to think about other people on the road.

[avb3]

So it's ok for you to use your cell phone to complain about someone else using theirs?

Yes, it is called hands free. It is not exactly a new invention; I've had it for more than 12 years.

[avb3]

Sorry, my mistake. Didn't realize it was your 16th birthday today. I apologize....

^^^^
THIS is why we need a 'Like' button.

[Twisted Canuck]

Little while back nobody batted an eye at someone on a phone.
Law came and saw a way to fill it's pockets, now all the sheeple are upset.

Pull your head out of your rear end pal. Get a guy fired. Feel real good about yourself.

Unless you consider studies that say distracted driving is more dangerous than impaired driving. If this conversation was about impaired driving, I think most people would be on board about reporting it, but since it's 'only texting'....

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/distracted-driving-deadlier-than-impaired-driving-police-say-ahead-of-holiday-crackdown-1.1434734

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/try-it-now/?articleId=21680846

http://distracteddriveraccidents.com/texting-driving-dangerous-drunk-driving/

http://www.citynews.ca/2014/03/04/distracted-driving-caused-more-2013-deaths-than-impaired-driving-opp/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kat-haselkorn/drunk-vs-distracted-drivi_b_5993852.html

[R3illy]

I watched a guy in the middle of the day walk into the porn store to buy a bunch of stuff. His company was one of the large builders who regularly send out updates to staff on how often their employees are reported.....

They even explain for what infractions....

[waterninja]

Do you want to wait till someone is crippled or killed before you act?
Are you saying you should fire him just to be on the safe side?
You might think that I'm defending people who use their cell phones while driving, but I'm not. I never text while driving (though I will answer my cell phone sometimes while driving), and I hate it when I see someone texting while driving. Ussually I'm waiting behind them at a green light.
What I am curious about is if an employer has the right to ask an employee to look at his/her phone if a complaint is made. Don't need the ussual drama queens to ask how I would feel when that employee kills someone down the road, but am curious as to what most employers do when something like a complaint happens. I'm sure it has happened many times.

[Mhunter51]

You bet, call it in now. If the guy won't show you his phone you know the answer. The above poster was right, there is a reason for the number on the truck. I call about a UPS driver who was doing the above scenario, texting at a red light, late leaving but continuing to text and very nearly hitting the driver behind me--in my lane. I just remembered his number, drove home and gave them the truck number , street he was on and time. Lady at UPS was very kind, took all the info and said the driver will be talked to, warned and next time fired. And yes 16 YO birthday boy, I didn't feel bad at all about it. More should grow up and do it.

[Twisted Canuck]

Are you saying you should fire him just to be on the safe side?
You might think that I'm defending people who use their cell phones while driving, but I'm not. I never text while driving (though I will answer my cell phone sometimes while driving), and I hate it when I see someone texting while driving. Ussually I'm waiting behind them at a green light.
What I am curious about is if an employer has the right to ask an employee to look at his/her phone if a complaint is made. Don't need the ussual drama queens to ask how I would feel when that employee kills someone down the road, but am curious as to what most employers do when something like a complaint happens. I'm sure it has happened many times.

No, not saying fire him. Yes, educate him very strenuously about the dangers of distracted driving. Strike 1. And yes, if on company time, you should be able to check the phone to see if he is violating safe operating principles. Not a violation of privacy at all, they are on the clock. Same as if a retail employee is using a private phone to text while getting paid to work for you. Absolutely.

[mtnluvr]

Why is it that everyone is so concerned about company owned vehicles and reporting everything they may think the drivers do wrong? I would invite anyone to put their contact info on their personal vehicle and see how much feedback they get from others, might be an eye opener to all those who think they are perfect drivers. Btw yes I do have several company vehicles in the road and it is unreal what people will call to report.

[Twisted Canuck]

Why is it that everyone is so concerned about company owned vehicles and reporting everything they may think the drivers do wrong? I would invite anyone to put their contact info on their personal vehicle and see how much feedback they get from others, might be an eye opener to all those who think they are perfect drivers. Btw yes I do have several company vehicles in the road and it is unreal what people will call to report.

My info is on my work vehicle, both sides and the back, and I have yet to receive a single call about my driving after 15 years. Maybe I drive decent? Go figure....

[waterninja]

No, not saying fire him. Yes, educate him very strenuously about the dangers of distracted driving. Strike 1. And yes, if on company time, you should be able to check the phone to see if he is violating safe operating principles. Not a violation of privacy at all, they are on the clock. Same as if a retail employee is using a private phone to text while getting paid to work for you. Absolutely.
Interesting thread. I agree with a lot of posters who think texting while driving is just as bad as or worse then impaired driving. I also agree that notifying a company about witnessing a poor or dangerous driver is probably a good thing to do, but I would bet that companies get a lot of inane or crank calls from irate motorists and busybodies.
I really find it hard to believe that your boss is allowed to check your phone or any other private property like your vehicle or even your person because of some anonymous complaint, but it's been a long time since I have worked for someone or driven a company vehicle.
One thing for sure, it sounds like an easy way to ruin someone's day that you have a grudge against or has somehow peed you off.

[Twisted Canuck]

One thing for sure, it sounds like an easy way to ruin someone's day that you have a grudge against or has somehow peed you off.

I honestly tend to be a bit 'old school' in my thinking and don't want to call in things I see because I figure guys are just trying to earn a living, but the idea of 'ruining somebody's' day, just to be a Dick, isn't what I'm getting at. The reality is, there are so many drivers out there who are not only in danger of 'ruining' you day, but of ruining your life and leaving you a cripple. Or worse, leaving you in a coffin for your family to throw flowers on. The stats are in, it is as dangerous or worse than impaired driving, and we sure don't make excuses or tolerate that anymore. It is selfish behaviour, and dangerous to the point of being homicidal, to operate a vehicle (and let's face it, some of the people you and I see are operating vehicles that are running 4000kg and up to 50,000kg, with B trains).....that is just plain reckless and ignorant.

[Astrocyte]

I have seen plenty of texting and driving employees of various companies but have never called one in. Maybe I should though.

I sure hope that the individual receiving my call would care about their employee being caught doing something like texting and driving though. Something tells me certain companies would just roll their eyes just like some have already posted here with a "whatever just leave me alone" tone. I hope that feeling I have is wrong though. Getting fired may be extreme if that employee does not have a history of reports, if the company has had complaints on that vehicle's driver before though then fire them. A company should want to have no complaints come in, if there have been numerous then maybe it is time to re-evaluate the staff's behavior. I really have no sympathy if it is a matter of in one ear out the other. Too often we see reports of another crash on distracted driving. It can be prevented.

[New2Elk]

Last year our company put new stickers on the trucks that specifically have a picture of a crossed out phone on it with the number to call. I've found it has made the staff more aware of how serious the company takes being distracted while driving and have not heard of a single complaint coming in. On the contrary, one employee was recently told he had someone call and praise their safe attitude toward driving. I think for a lot of people it's somewhat of a complacency issue that they end up using their phones. I'm sure for a lot of those people, getting a talking to once changes that. That means less distracted people on the road and that's fine by me.

[IR_mike]

Little while back nobody batted an eye at someone on a phone.
Law came and saw a way to fill it's pockets, now all the sheeple are upset.

Pull your head out of your rear end pal. Get a guy fired. Feel real good about yourself.

In 2009 long before the distracted law came in I was rear ended stopped at a red light by a individual texting while driving a newer mustang.

My 3/4 ton sits high from factory and other than a few scuffs on my bumper and hitch receiver my truck was undamaged but his car was a fairly well damaged but still driveable mess. :sHa_sarcasticlol:

Play stupid games receive stupid prizes...

We agreed there was no sense reporting it as I was undamaged.

Anywho I proceed about 9 blocks up main street to fuel up and while I am doing this (watching the traffic go by) you would not believe who I see suddenly look up and lock up the binders and narrowly miss rear ending another vehicle.

Well the law states I am not allowed to play Darwin and natural selection sometimes has innocent collateral damage.

Do you think I care if someone stupid loses there job through there own bad choices/lack of brain power?

[farmer23]

I wouldn't think twice about calling someone in. I don't understand how some people think it's just texting, not hurting anyone. The neighbour was in a head on collision on the highway with a texting driver, she dropped her phone and swerved into his lane! Her insurance bought him a new ride though, a new wheelchair for the rest of his life as he is now a quadriplegic. Couldn't dance with his daughter at her wedding, his wife had to quit her job to look after him. Ya, texting really doesn't cause any problems.

[NewAlbertan]

http://globalnews.ca/news/2609283/exempt-from-the-law-calgary-police-officer-caught-distracted-driving/

[ETOWNCANUCK]

If a guy does something that causes an accident due to his lack of care and attention, he may get charged and lose his job at that point.

We all run that risk as is, even without the added distraction of a phone.

Am I going out of my way to rat on a guy for the texting while driving a company vehicle?

No

If he causes an accident and I saw that he was texting just before

Yes.

Going out of my way to complain to the company won't really change anything,
Let's be realistic here,
But if it helps to sleep better at night.

[Twisted Canuck]

I wouldn't think twice about calling someone in. I don't understand how some people think it's just texting, not hurting anyone. The neighbour was in a head on collision on the highway with a texting driver, she dropped her phone and swerved into his lane! Her insurance bought him a new ride though, a new wheelchair for the rest of his life as he is now a quadriplegic. Couldn't dance with his daughter at her wedding, his wife had to quit her job to look after him. Ya, texting really doesn't cause any problems.

That's as clear as it gets.

[brslk]

I never text. I hate it. Why spend ten minutes texting what can be said in a phone conversation in two minutes?
Having said that, the only person that texts me is my boss.
I'll read it and get back to him when I'm stopped.
In certain situations I am exempt from the talking on a mobile phone laws.

[roper1]

Report it

[HowSwedeItIs]

Little while back nobody batted an eye at someone on a phone.
Law came and saw a way to fill it's pockets, now all the sheeple are upset.

Pull your head out of your rear end pal. Get a guy fired. Feel real good about yourself.

I'd like to think you're not being serious

[EZM]

Little while back nobody batted an eye at someone on a phone.
Law came and saw a way to fill it's pockets, now all the sheeple are upset.

Pull your head out of your rear end pal. Get a guy fired. Feel real good about yourself.


I'm sure you would be "feeling good about yourself" (and your opinion on this topic) if one of your family members was killed or disabled by some self centered, narcissistic and entitled moron texting while driving who thinks this law does not apply to himself.

[Ranets]

If a guy does something that causes an accident due to his lack of care and attention, he may get charged and lose his job at that point.

We all run that risk as is, even without the added distraction of a phone.

Am I going out of my way to rat on a guy for the texting while driving a company vehicle?

No

If he causes an accident and I saw that he was texting just before

Yes.

Going out of my way to complain to the company won't really change anything,
Let's be realistic here,
But if it helps to sleep better at night.

Ahhh definitely much better to call after the fact and really be no help than call before and possibly save someones life. I see how that would make sense:snapoutofit:

[brslk]

Ahhh definitely much better to call after the fact and really be no help than call before and possibly save someones life. I see how that would make sense:snapoutofit:


Playing devils advocate here but, if you report someone for texting while driving to their employer, they likely won't get in trouble until they come back to the shop or office. If they have already killed or injured someone it is still after the fact.

[Crankbait]

I drive 60 km back and forth to work each day, a little bit city, a little bit highway. I notice many phone users of all kinds of use. One other thing I noticed was after they announced the 3 demerit points penalty drivers became crazier. My theory is that; those who use their phones for whatever in their commute suddenly became aware that they were wrong. But like the guy needing his smoke or the druggy needing their fix, the phone users (who I might add use more often that the other two examples) needed to get to their destination quicker so they could get back online. It's my theory that their withdrawal is taking place while driving. I swear, for two weeks there was some pretty erratic driving out there. Now nobody seems to care again and I think peoples phones should be impounded like a car, or their acct temporarily shut down or something.

I'd sure hate to die at the hands of a bozo texting, "How did your uncle crankbait die?" "Oh, someone was driving with their elbow so they could like a picture of a coffee mug sent to their facebook."

[Freedom55]

Aren't you the same guys who complain (and that's what this forum has become lately) that the nanny state is attempting to control every moment of our lives? Yet here you are all praising the guy who buys into that scheme and wants to rat out on a guy at work.

Not a guy stealing your neighbors property. Not a guy smoking dope on the jobsite. Not a guy doing 140 in the fast lane. Just a member of the proletariat trying to get through his day.

And the irony of having been spotted diddling with his phone by a guy who has never turned a wrong wheel and wants everyone else to be the same way. And he wasn't hurt or killed, only mildly inconvenienced.

And then to insult someone who dares disagree! What a drag.

Free

[Ranch11]

At my workplace, if caught using cellphone in a work vehicle, you're gone. Simple as that. It's an epidemic. At lunch, if there's 12 people in the room, there's ten of em in their cellphones, checking their Facebook, playing games, watching YouTube. You just know what they're doing when they're supposed to be out working.

[Twisted Canuck]

Aren't you the same guys who complain (and that's what this forum has become lately) that the nanny state is attempting to control every moment of our lives? Yet here you are all praising the guy who buys into that scheme and wants to rat out on a guy at work.

Not a guy stealing your neighbors property. Not a guy smoking dope on the jobsite. Not a guy doing 140 in the fast lane. Just a member of the proletariat trying to get through his day.

And the irony of having been spotted diddling with his phone by a guy who has never turned a wrong wheel and wants everyone else to be the same way. And he wasn't hurt or killed, only mildly inconvenienced.

And then to insult someone who dares disagree! What a drag.

Free

By that reasoning then, it should be ok to drive impaired as well, as we don't want interference from the nanny state or guys ratting out other guys. After all, nobody was killed or hurt. This time. So just let it go. It seams reasonable.

I'm surprised you see the safety risk of a guy smoking pot on the jobsite, but are ok with people texting behind the wheel.

[bobtodrick]

Aren't you the same guys who complain (and that's what this forum has become lately) that the nanny state is attempting to control every moment of our lives? Yet here you are all praising the guy who buys into that scheme and wants to rat out on a guy at work.

Not a guy stealing your neighbors property. Not a guy smoking dope on the jobsite. Not a guy doing 140 in the fast lane. Just a member of the proletariat trying to get through his day.

And the irony of having been spotted diddling with his phone by a guy who has never turned a wrong wheel and wants everyone else to be the same way. And he wasn't hurt or killed, only mildly inconvenienced.

And then to insult someone who dares disagree! What a drag.

Free

Wow...stupid on so many levels.
So if a distracted driver kills one of your family members in an accident your main concern is going to be whether he got to work on time?
I have a pretty strong suspicion you're someone we have to be careful of on the roadway.

[58thecat]

People should mind thier own business...ya until they kill someone and then what...:snapoutofit:

[Freedom55]

Nice try, mister. You were never in any danger. You got your knickers in a Twisted so you want the guy skinned out. What every good Canuck wants.

Imagine. Someone having something you want but, because of your delicate sensibilities, can't have.

Be thankful that you have never sinned allowing you to cast the first stone.

Free

[Twisted Canuck]

Nice try, mister. You were never in any danger. You got your knickers in a Twisted so you want the guy skinned out. What every good Canuck wants.

Imagine. Someone having something you want but, because of your delicate sensibilities, can't have.

Be thankful that you have never sinned allowing you to cast the first stone.

Free

That's about as lame a piece of dime store psychology as I've ever heard. What exactly is it that somebody else has that I want? Other than for everybody to have a safe daily commute? And which delicate sensibilities of mine got my knickers twisted? Your post hardly makes sense. But I get it, you have no problem texting and driving, and probably drinking and driving too. They both get people killed, so there is no difference.

[whiteout]

I watched a guy in the middle of the day walk into the porn store to buy a bunch of stuff. His company was one of the large builders who regularly send out updates to staff on how often their employees are reported.....

They even explain for what infractions....

So you saw someone taking part in an activity that is 100% legal and does not affect you in any way whatsoever and felt offended?

[bobtodrick]

Nice try, mister. You were never in any danger. You got your knickers in a Twisted so you want the guy skinned out. What every good Canuck wants.

Imagine. Someone having something you want but, because of your delicate sensibilities, can't have.

Be thankful that you have never sinned allowing you to cast the first stone.

Free

uhhh...have you been drinking??

[R3illy]

Freedom is actually bang on with his comments. You can't complain about the nanny state and then turn around and say you'll rat a guy out.

Only guy I ever reported was an ******* that sped around a corner that sent flying debris that smashed my windshield.

[R3illy]

So you saw someone taking part in an activity that is 100% legal and does not affect you in any way whatsoever and felt offended?

Haha sure it's legal.. I just know people who worked for that builder and how strict they are on their drivers and employee time.... I thought it was quite hilarious as they send out regular updates to all their drivers on their strict expectations or the number of reports that have been called in.

I thought to myself wouldn't it be hilarious to see the report showing an employee was noticed buying a **** load of porn while on shift.

I don't care what people do and didn't report it but had a good laugh.

[whiteout]

And we know for a 100% fact that this was a personal visit. I assume you followed him into he store to supervise his time.

This is one of my biggest **** offs. People who see a company logo and automatically assume that because you aren't in a location where THEY expect you to be, you're ****ing the dog. I've taken a company vehicle to Tim's, DQ and the like all on company business and gotten a few comments about lazy oil patch workers and how it must be nice to be able to spend my day screwing around.

[elkhunter11]

And we know for a 100% fact that this was a personal visit. I assume you followed him into he store to supervise his time.

This is one of my biggest **** offs. People who see a company logo and automatically assume that because you aren't in a location where THEY expect you to be, you're ****ing the dog. I've taken a company vehicle to Tim's, DQ and the like all on company business and gotten a few comments about lazy oil patch workers and how it must be nice to be able to spend my day screwing around.

Come on now, the HVAC , plumbing, appliances etc never need maintenance at Tim Hortons or the liquor store. :)

[Freedom55]

uhhh...have you been drinking??

Be quiet. You contribute nothing to this topic except insults. You know you can get away with it because you know that I am anti-squeal.

This has swung far and away from the original topic. The OP wanted advice on whether he should phone the alleged texter's boss or mind his own business. His poll now shows that his rats are outnumber by the voters with a different opinion.

Twisted: If you want to phone the cop's, feel secure in the knowledge that it is your duty as a law-abiding citizen-on-patrol. But ratting to his boss is rather more like vengeance.

Free

[bobtodrick]

Freedom is actually bang on with his comments. You can't complain about the nanny state and then turn around and say you'll rat a guy out.

Only guy I ever reported was an ******* that sped around a corner that sent flying debris that smashed my windshield.

Not true.
People complaining about the nanny state are usually talking about government staying out of affairs they have no business being in...for example the argument that the state has no reason to interfere in your bedroom activities.
Distracted driving is illegal.
It kills people.
Are you saying that if you saw an obvious drunk driver going the wrong way on the road you'd not report it?
If that's the case then this whole argument (as it pertains to you and Freedom) is moot...because you are really suggesting the dismantling of society as we know it and returning to the old code of 'might makes right' (essentially).
I don't think there are that many here who would agree with you.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

Ahhh definitely much better to call after the fact and really be no help than call before and possibly save someones life. I see how that would make sense:snapoutofit:



Wow every accident on the road results in a death.
I did not know that.

I also did not know, that merely making a phone call about a driver texting prevents all accidents .

I guess we need to be able to call 911 every time we see someone texting, or talking on a phone, or eating cereal, or putting on makeup.

Before cell phones there was about as many distracted drivers as there is now, they just have a new way to be distracted.

But that's essentially what most people on this thread think to do.

Call the company and complain.

Start doing that, you may as well call the parents of the teenager, the watch captain of the cop, the Premier about her driver, and so on and so on.

More people using their phones to rat on the guy.

We worry about the government watching us.

The real problem is every idiot with a cell phone, dash cam, and how many hits it gets on YouTube and likes on Facebook.

Thats what our society is in the year 2016.

Everyone out to get the other guy on film, before the same happens to us.

[does it ALL outdoors]

Law came and saw a way to fill it's pockets, now all the sheeple are upset.
You think the destracted driving law is just a cash grab? Seriously??

[Redfrog]

Little while back nobody batted an eye at someone on a phone.
Law came and saw a way to fill it's pockets, now all the sheeple are upset.

Pull your head out of your rear end pal. Get a guy fired. Feel real good about yourself.

The guy would be getting himself fired, if he worked for me.

I guess it's better to wait till he causes a fatal and ties the court up for two years to get 18 month probation.:thinking-006:

Blame someone else. today's mantra.

[Twisted Canuck]

This has swung far and away from the original topic. The OP wanted advice on whether he should phone the alleged texter's boss or mind his own business. His poll now shows that his rats are outnumber by the voters with a different opinion.

Twisted: If you want to phone the cop's, feel secure in the knowledge that it is your duty as a law-abiding citizen-on-patrol. But ratting to his boss is rather more like vengeance.

Free

Actually, I didn't want advice, I asked how others felt about this topic, and you throwing in the phrase 'alleged texter' is just funny, questioning what I actually saw. Yup, I'm a half blind dummy, he was probably just doing what with his hand in his lap and looking down? :sHa_sarcasticlol:I know what I did. I came home, and I called the company, and explained what I saw, so they could give the employee an appropriate reprimand. At no point did I EVER suggest involving the police. Ratting to his boss is rather not 'more like vengeance'. It is rather more like actually calling the number on the vehicle that says 'if this vehicle is not being driven in a safe manner'....Do you think employers put that on there just to shine other drivers on, or is it because they actually prefer to not have law suits and insurance issues if their drivers are operating in an unsafe manner and cause an accident? You can see it your way, that's fine. And I get to see it my way. But you may want to look at the statistics that indicate the number of injury/fatality accidents caused by distracted driving, and imagine if that was your wife, or kids, or 'partner', and how that would affect you. Or if it was you in a wheelchair, unable to support your family. This crap about always turning a blind eye to selfish and dangerous behaviour, because you don't want to 'rat someone out', is kind of high school stupid. Maybe we need more responsible adults on the road, and fewer entitled and ignorant, immature dinks. And the fact that the poll shows more members wouldn't call, makes not a bit of difference to me. This wasn't a democratic vote to determine how my moral compass should point, it works just fine thanks. And it doesn't surprise me one bit that the majority have a different compass, as I see it at work around me all the time, in more ways than I care to get in to on this thread. I'd love to see the age demographic on who voted how, that would probably be a hell of an eye opener. Or not really, I can guess what it would look like. But, the Me Generation, is entitled, alive, and not giving a flying intimate moment about anyone but themselves. As has been observed and noted many times. Carry on.

[Freedom55]

And so endeth the lesson.

[Twisted Canuck]

And so endeth the lesson.

Did you learn anything to help you be a better more mature, responsible person?

[Ranets]

Wow every accident on the road results in a death.
I did not know that.

I also did not know, that merely making a phone call about a driver texting prevents all accidents .

I guess we need to be able to call 911 every time we see someone texting, or talking on a phone, or eating cereal, or putting on makeup.

Before cell phones there was about as many distracted drivers as there is now, they just have a new way to be distracted.

But that's essentially what most people on this thread think to do.

Call the company and complain.

Start doing that, you may as well call the parents of the teenager, the watch captain of the cop, the Premier about her driver, and so on and so on.

More people using their phones to rat on the guy.

We worry about the government watching us.

The real problem is every idiot with a cell phone, dash cam, and how many hits it gets on YouTube and likes on Facebook.

Thats what our society is in the year 2016.

Everyone out to get the other guy on film, before the same happens to us.

Wow its really neat when people talk and don't listen I stated that you may "possibly" save someones life and nowhere did I state that every accident causes a death. But I will state that by doing nothing and ignoring the situation will accomplish just that nothing. We sit and complain every time someone gets hurt or injured in an unnecessary accident but then hypocrisy raises its ugly head and we go no that's not cool to call in when someone is breaking the law. The police can not be everywhere at once so if regular citizens can help out even a little bit maybe the injury and fatality statistics would not need to be as high as they are.

[Freedom55]

I see. A person has the audacity to disagree with your point of view so you have to resort to belittling, pedantic and down right childish proof that some guys are never wrong.

I disagree with you now and I will disagree with you on this matter in the future. Some times you are wrong. Like now.

Free

[Twisted Canuck]

I see. A person has the audacity to disagree with your point of view so you have to resort to belittling, pedantic and down right childish proof that some guys are never wrong.

I disagree with you now and I will disagree with you on this matter in the future. Some times you are wrong. Like now.

Free

Well, it's not so much that it is my point of view, as it is the law in our province. I didn't write that particular law, but I agree with it in principle (as I believe it is ultimately for the safety of citizens), as did the elected MLAs who passed it in to law in our province, which you are not actually a member of, are you? Believing you are right doesn't make it so. But I did honestly admire your use of the word pedantic, a good vocabulary is often the sign of an intelligent mind.

[NorthShore]

Little while back nobody batted an eye at someone on a phone.
Law came and saw a way to fill it's pockets, now all the sheeple are upset.

Pull your head out of your rear end pal. Get a guy fired. Feel real good about yourself.

Little while back no one batted an eye at drunk driving either...

Laws came to keep people from killing other people with their stupidity. Finally...

[Positrac]

The OP wanted advice on whether he should phone the alleged texter's boss or mind his own business. His poll now shows that his rats are outnumber by the voters with a different opinion.


At 49-46 it's not exactly a runaway.

[Ranets]

I see. A person has the audacity to disagree with your point of view so you have to resort to belittling, pedantic and down right childish proof that some guys are never wrong.

I disagree with you now and I will disagree with you on this matter in the future. Some times you are wrong. Like now.

Free

You disagree that texting while driving is both dangerous and stupid???
Okay I guess you are right and the law and majority of other people are idiots:snapoutofit:

[ryan1]

Anybody that thinks texting is not as bad as impaired driving is in denial.
All the studies have shown cell phone use is more distracting than talking to a passenger, whether hands free or not.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

Wow its really neat when people talk and don't listen I stated that you may "possibly" save someones life and nowhere did I state that every accident causes a death. But I will state that by doing nothing and ignoring the situation will accomplish just that nothing. We sit and complain every time someone gets hurt or injured in an unnecessary accident but then hypocrisy raises its ugly head and we go no that's not cool to call in when someone is breaking the law. The police can not be everywhere at once so if regular citizens can help out even a little bit maybe the injury and fatality statistics would not need to be as high as they are.



So we're all supposed to call and complain every time someone is distracted driving?

Please

Give your head a shake.

Accidents will happen regardless of any input from the public.

All we can do is look after ourselves, but if it makes you feel better,
Give me your bosses phone number so I can phone him and tell him I saw you driving and texting at the same time.

Everything is reactive not proactive.

We all know what happens when you drink and drive yet it still happens,
Same with distracted driving.

Stupidly happens and there isn't anything you or I or anyone else can do about it.

[Ranets]

So we're all supposed to call and complain every time someone is distracted driving?

Please

Give your head a shake.

Accidents will happen regardless of any input from the public.

All we can do is look after ourselves, but if it makes you feel better,
Give me your bosses phone number so I can phone him and tell him I saw you driving and texting at the same time.

Everything is reactive not proactive.

We all know what happens when you drink and drive yet it still happens,
Same with distracted driving.

Stupidly happens and there isn't anything you or I or anyone else can do about it.

WOW do nothing because effort and attempt will never change anything:sign0161: with that archaic mentality we would all still be living in caves. Yah someone definitely needs to give his head a shake and maybe try being proactive for a change.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

WOW do nothing because effort and attempt will never change anything:sign0161: with that archaic mentality we would all still be living in caves. Yah someone definitely needs to give his head a shake and maybe try being proactive for a change.



By calling the cops every time I see someone using their cell phone while operating a vehicle

This is your logic

You be the first, give me your contact info so I can call them right now

[The Cook]

Little while back nobody batted an eye at someone on a phone.
Law came and saw a way to fill it's pockets, now all the sheeple are upset.

Pull your head out of your rear end pal. Get a guy fired. Feel real good about yourself.

I think it's you who needs surgery to implant a glass stomach so you can see where you are going as your head is firmly stuffed up your behind.

[Tfng]

.

[JustMe]

You think the destracted driving law is just a cash grab? Seriously??



I am guessing that those against reporting a law breaker are the ones you see driving and texting and are trying to justify their illegal activity. You won't convince them to do the right thing, they have a sense of self entitlement, what's right or wrong or against the law doesn't apply to them. Course I could be wrong.....

[HowSwedeItIs]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/distracted-driving-victim-pleads-with-texters-to-put-cellphones-away-1.3515597

"Distracted Driving Victim Pleads with Texters to put Cellphones Away"

[Twisted Canuck]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/distracted-driving-victim-pleads-with-texters-to-put-cellphones-away-1.3515597

"Distracted Driving Victim Pleads with Texters to put Cellphones Away"

Thanks for posting that.

[Ranets]

By calling the cops every time I see someone using their cell phone while operating a vehicle

This is your logic

You be the first, give me your contact info so I can call them right now

??? I guess if typing on my home computer were to break the distracted driving law? I guess by the logic you've shown so far with the ignore it and it will go away attitude that would make tons of sense. I guess the true point I am trying to make is that anyone who texts and drives is as irresponsible and self-centred as someone who drinks and drives and those that see it and say or do nothing are also partially responsible for damages caused. As long as people are scared to speak up against obvious stupidity and, illegal activities which it is both, nothing will ever change.

[Ranets]

Thanks for posting that.

x2

[ETOWNCANUCK]

[QUOTE=Ranets;3189667]??? I guess if typing on my home computer were to break the distracted driving law? I guess by the logic you've shown so far with the ignore it and it will go away attitude that would make tons of sense. I guess the true point I am trying to make is that anyone who texts and drives is as irresponsible and self-centred as someone who drinks and drives and those that see it and say or do nothing are also partially responsible for damages caused. As long as people are scared to speak up against obvious stupidity and, illegal activities which it is both, nothing will ever change.[/

You want to fight stupidity
I got news for you
There is not one thing you can do about it.
Eons of mankind doing things that everyone knows is wrong and illegal and stupid it still happens.

Life is too short to worry about the idiot beside you, look out for you and yours,
End of the day that's all you can do.

Ignoring the problem won't go away,you're right but in the end nothing changes.
This is the world we live in.
It sucks
But that's life.

[Freedom55]

At 49-46 it's not exactly a runaway.

As of 5:30 AM the actual score is 81 in favor of going about their business and 54 in favor of calling somebody. Approx. 18.5%. We kept Quebec by a margin of 1%

Now let's say he phones the police and on Twisted's evidence ALONE the boy is convicted (we know it is a boy because of Twisted's comment about the entitled youth being the alleged perpetrator). That boy faces a fine of perhaps a day's pay.

Let say the police put him off due to lack of evidence (he said-she said) and the employer is contacted. What would be the preferred outcome?

Boss: "Don't do that again."

Boy: "Okay." Or

Boss: "You're fired"

So he loses his job for doing what the majority on this poll consider a misdemeanor. And that my friends is the new Alberta justice. A bunch of nosey parkers trying to save the world from ourselves. That and thinking that if we blow out my candle then yours will shine brighter.

And just in case Twisted hasn't put me on any list, I want to let him know that I was born and raised in Alberta and lived in the south for 55 years before retiring to a quieter place. I have as much right to comment on his 'private forum' as a Newfoundlander in town for a job.

Free

[58thecat]

I see. A person has the audacity to disagree with your point of view so you have to resort to belittling, pedantic and down right childish proof that some guys are never wrong.

I disagree with you now and I will disagree with you on this matter in the future. Some times you are wrong. Like now.

Free

You and twisted need to go stand in the corner for a time out, or go outside for a long run to regroup.

Texting while driving whether in a company truck or personal vehicle is against the law, period.

The company I worked for had zero tolerance of this and the law got laid down really quick as people were escorted off site for this infraction. Lost time for the first strike and fired for the second. No strike three! Easy way to keep a job is to put the phone away and stop looking for excuses if you get caught. No one else's fault other than you made the choice to go against the law or company policy and now you are held accountable.
If a coworker or someone else saw you swerving and using the phone while driving good on them for reporting your selfish decision to put others in danger. If you are willing to break rules what other laws/rules are you willing to break at the job site that is going to put others in harms way...I want to go to work and go home at the end of the night to my family as I want the crew to.

[catnthehat]

I agree Cat, and what you say makes sense, but if you have done nothing wrong then why should you have to show someone your phone? Seems like an invasion of privacy.
If you don't show your boss your phone then are you assumed to be guilty?

Here's the whole problem with this situation.
If someone tells me a person is doing something against the law I want to see a name and number attached to the complaint .
If I was not texting and could prove it I would expect my boss to be able to phone back and tell that person that they will possibly have a visit from the RCMP for false allegations against me.

When I receive a complaint it had better vine with a signed statement otherwise I will pay absolutely NO attention to it.
Cat

[Acesneights]

Well said catnthehat. I just can't believe how everyone can be so richeous because of a new law. 20 years ago there were lots of people locking their kids in the car so they could go drink in the bar or you used to not even have seat belts so we would slide around in the back seats like curling rocks the world and our country is turning into a society with zero accountability for your own actions and it's all about blaming other people and I'm afraid and ashamed to be a part of this generation

[58thecat]

Well said catnthehat. I just can't believe how everyone can be so richeous because of a new law. 20 years ago there were lots of people locking their kids in the car so they could go drink in the bar or you used to not even have seat belts so we would slide around in the back seats like curling rocks the world and our country is turning into a society with zero accountability for your own actions and it's all about blaming other people and I'm afraid and ashamed to be a part of this generation

You learn from the past and your comparison is apples to oranges. 20 years ago there was a lot less vehicles on the road and a lot less distractions too.

As,learn from the past not everything was right, mistakes made, some repeated but as a whole you need to learn and not repeat.

Evolution.

[Ron J]

Personally, I support letting and employer know if their vehicles are not being driven safely. If a person is in a company vehicle, including police or other government agency vehicles, they are moving billboards for that employer. They should not be in a hurry because they are getting paid while they are driving. I don't think every offender should lose their job over this, but every once in a while people need to be reminded that while they are operating a company vehicle, they are being noticed more than a private vehicle. We are all guilty of moments of inattention.

[WCTHEMI]

[QUOTE=Ranets;3189667]??? I guess if typing on my home computer were to break the distracted driving law? I guess by the logic you've shown so far with the ignore it and it will go away attitude that would make tons of sense. I guess the true point I am trying to make is that anyone who texts and drives is as irresponsible and self-centred as someone who drinks and drives and those that see it and say or do nothing are also partially responsible for damages caused. As long as people are scared to speak up against obvious stupidity and, illegal activities which it is both, nothing will ever change.[/

You want to fight stupidity
I got news for you
There is not one thing you can do about it.
Eons of mankind doing things that everyone knows is wrong and illegal and stupid it still happens.

Life is too short to worry about the idiot beside you, look out for you and yours,
End of the day that's all you can do.

Ignoring the problem won't go away,you're right but in the end nothing changes.
This is the world we live in.
It sucks
But that's life.

I would say looking out for me and mine would include doing what I can to stop jackwagons like that from texting and driving. Cause if I am on my motorcycle, it very well could mean my life. I guess if you want to stick your head in the sand, it's your choice.

[Freedom55]

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[bobtodrick]

[QUOTE=ETOWNCANUCK;3189690]

I would say looking out for me and mine would include doing what I can to stop jackwagons like that from texting and driving. Cause if I am on my motorcycle, it very well could mean my life. I guess if you want to stick your head in the sand, it's your choice.

Beat me to it.
The 'you and yours' ETOWNCANUK speaks of...my family are on the roads as well as the jakwads (that would be anyone texting ETOWNCANUK) texting...so I am protecting me and mine.

[kevinhits]

My question is how does one find the time to call dozens of phone users that you encounter everyday....I would have to quit my full time job to do this:bad_boys_20:

[ETOWNCANUCK]

[QUOTE=WCTHEMI;3189911]



Beat me to it.

The 'you and yours' ETOWNCANUK speaks of...my family are on the roads as well as the jakwads (that would be anyone texting ETOWNCANUK) texting...so I am protecting me and mine.



So this is what it comes down too,
Calling the cops every time you see an idiot texting while driving.
OK go ahead then,

But when you get charged with making frivolous complaints to the police don't come crying to me.

The population in Edmonton is over one million people with the included areas,
Even if with half the population suddenly putting down the cell phone, and driving properly the other half will continue to do it because they think they can,

You can't fight stupidity,
Never has happened, never will happen.

Spending all your time worrying about the other guy is no way to live life,
But if it makes you sleep better.

I'll worry about what I can control in my universe thank you.

[does it ALL outdoors]

I am guessing that those against reporting a law breaker are the ones you see driving and texting and are trying to justify their illegal activity. You won't convince them to do the right thing, they have a sense of self entitlement, what's right or wrong or against the law doesn't apply to them. Course I could be wrong.....
Nope, you are ABSOLUTELY correct. It's driver attitude and sence of entitlement. The "law dosent apply to me" mentality.
It's not going to go away untill they get serious with fines and enforcement. $2500 fine, 4 or 6 demerits and vehicle impounded for 30 days for the first offence and a $5000 fine, licence suspension for 3 months and 90 day seizure the second time. Think the problem would stop then?

[58thecat]

People can do what ever they like on the road... All i do is i mind my own business.

Until one text to many and they cross the centre line and meet you head on...now thier business is your business and all who love you too...think about it!

[NewAlbertan]

[QUOTE=bobtodrick;3189995]



So this is what it comes down too,
Calling the cops every time you see an idiot texting while driving.
OK go ahead then,

But when you get charged with making frivolous complaints to the police don't come crying to me.

The population in Edmonton is over one million people with the included areas,
Even if with half the population suddenly putting down the cell phone, and driving properly the other half will continue to do it because they think they can,

You can't fight stupidity,
Never has happened, never will happen.

Spending all your time worrying about the other guy is no way to live life,
But if it makes you sleep better.

I'll worry about what I can control in my universe thank you.

"Spending all your time worrying about the other guy is no way to live life,"
Actually it my worry about the other guy (the self entitled dbag that thinks he's better than laws, driving distracted) for keeping me alive.
My and my loved ones lives far more valuable that some tool on an iPhone whilst driving.
Fines and dismissal are a minimum.

[Huntnut]

I know lots of companies that have gps's in their company vehicles and regularly check their employees to see if they are speeding. How is this any different? Breaking the law is breaking the law.

[bobtodrick]

[QUOTE=bobtodrick;3189995]



So this is what it comes down too,
Calling the cops every time you see an idiot texting while driving.
OK go ahead then,

But when you get charged with making frivolous complaints to the police don't come crying to me.

The population in Edmonton is over one million people with the included areas,
Even if with half the population suddenly putting down the cell phone, and driving properly the other half will continue to do it because they think they can,

You can't fight stupidity,
Never has happened, never will happen.

Spending all your time worrying about the other guy is no way to live life,
But if it makes you sleep better.

I'll worry about what I can control in my universe thank you.

Actually ETOWN the police have asked that the public report distracted drivers just as they do drunk drivers...so I'm not to worried about your 'frivolous' charge scenario.
Anyway to quote the bard 'methinks you protest to much'.
Sounds like you're worried that one of us is going to be reporting you???

[Nock]

I'm a firefighter with my local department. I'm of the "the law is the law" opinion. Nearly every MVC we respond to is a result of distracted driving, from fender benders, pedestrian strikes to highway speed collisions. When the distracted driving law came into effect I was quite hopeful that it would help but the lack of enforcement took all the bite out of the law. It's very disheartening to be working a collision scene, cleaning up a fatal accident and watch the vehicles drive by with drivers taking video of the crash or talking on the phone. Cops are right there and I've never seen them go after a driver yet. As far as business vehicles go, I've pulled dead people from business and private vehicles alike. The company logo offers no protection in a crash. I used to call and report drivers but after seeing how little is done I don't bother anymore.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

[QUOTE=ETOWNCANUCK;3190080]



Actually ETOWN the police have asked that the public report distracted drivers just as they do drunk drivers...so I'm not to worried about your 'frivolous' charge scenario.

Anyway to quote the bard 'methinks you protest to much'.

Sounds like you're worried that one of us is going to be reporting you???



No I don't think I have that worry
I would read this post again starting with the OP
He wanted to know if he should complain to the company

Also good luck with the calling the cops
It's your word against there's
This isn't as if someone is drinking and driving and its a little more obvious
Try proving that the guy texting and driving was actually behind the wheel at the time.

I'm not protesting anything
I'm actually responding to the post of the op
Complaining about someone texting and driving is pointless

The company won't do anything and the cops have better things to do then track down a texting driver
They have more things to worry about
Like drunk drivers

[Twisted Canuck]

[QUOTE=bobtodrick;3190291]

No I don't think I have that worry
I would read this post again starting with the OP
He wanted to know if he should complain to the company


I think you should read the OP again (that's me). At no point did I ask if I should call (to complain, whine, bitch or however others want to characterize it) to the company. I clearly stated that somebody was going to get his pp whacked when he got back to his shop, meaning I did call. What I did do in my OP, was ask if others called in dangerous driving or not. Pretty simple. I wasn't asking for advice, or looking to get my moral compass aligned. I will say though, that I often feel much like you, or what you have expressed. People are stupid, always have been, always will be, what's the point. But I have 4 kids driving and one more who is getting her learner's permit soon, and when I see the ignorant, stupid, and dangerous driving that goes on, I figure anything I can do to get even one dink to smarten up while behind the wheel, increases my children's odds of surviving. Maybe not by much, but if you look at how the campaign against drunk driving has lowered incidence of alcohol related accidents, I'd say it's worth the effort. If people want to be dinks on their own land, where they aren't endangering anyone else but themselves with their stupidity, I promise not to be annoyed, get my knickers twisted, or call the employer or police. If you are doing it where you may potentially harm my family, or myself, you might just get reported.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

[QUOTE=ETOWNCANUCK;3190305]



I think you should read the OP again (that's me). At no point did I ask if I should call (to complain, whine, bitch or however others want to characterize it) to the company. I clearly stated that somebody was going to get his pp whacked when he got back to his shop, meaning I did call. What I did do in my OP, was ask if others called in dangerous driving or not. Pretty simple. I wasn't asking for advice, or looking to get my moral compass aligned. I will say though, that I often feel much like you, or what you have expressed. People are stupid, always have been, always will be, what's the point. But I have 4 kids driving and one more who is getting her learner's permit soon, and when I see the ignorant, stupid, and dangerous driving that goes on, I figure anything I can do to get even one dink to smarten up while behind the wheel, increases my children's odds of surviving. Maybe not by much, but if you look at how the campaign against drunk driving has lowered incidence of alcohol related accidents, I'd say it's worth the effort. If people want to be dinks on their own land, where they aren't endangering anyone else but themselves with their stupidity, I promise not to be annoyed, get my knickers twisted, or call the employer or police. If you are doing it where you may potentially harm my family, or myself, you might just get reported.



At least someone can figure things out.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

I'm a firefighter with my local department. I'm of the "the law is the law" opinion. Nearly every MVC we respond to is a result of distracted driving, from fender benders, pedestrian strikes to highway speed collisions. When the distracted driving law came into effect I was quite hopeful that it would help but the lack of enforcement took all the bite out of the law. It's very disheartening to be working a collision scene, cleaning up a fatal accident and watch the vehicles drive by with drivers taking video of the crash or talking on the phone. Cops are right there and I've never seen them go after a driver yet. As far as business vehicles go, I've pulled dead people from business and private vehicles alike. The company logo offers no protection in a crash. I used to call and report drivers but after seeing how little is done I don't bother anymore.



Someone else who has it figured out.

[Nock]

I am pretty certain I don't have it figured out, not many of us do. I DO believe in education though. I work with a program in our local schools. EMS, fire department, schools and the local authorities hold monthly sessions where the focus is to educate young drivers about many topics including distracted driving. It's a great program and we are seeing positive results. Teach em when they are young.

[58thecat]

I am pretty certain I don't have it figured out, not many of us do. I DO believe in education though. I work with a program in our local schools. EMS, fire department, schools and the local authorities hold monthly sessions where the focus is to educate young drivers about many topics including distracted driving. It's a great program and we are seeing positive results. Teach em when they are young.

Exactly and hit them hard when caught breaking the law.
Driving is a privilege not a right.

Next time at a red light take a look around you and see how many heads are down texting...sad because as soon as the light goes green they look up due to movement not even aware of their surroundings :scared:

[Chung66]

The simple fact is this is cause of many accidents. It is killing people. Plain and simple. Why are people all up in arms about drunk drivers and not about this? 100% of these incidents (they are not accidents) are preventable. I say have similar penalties to drinking and driving. The results are the same. Injured, disabled, orphaned people

[Freedom55]

I witnessed a boy careening down the side walk yesterday on his bicycle. Little girls were screaming as they tried to avoid being run over by that careless youth, obviously breaking some law.

Later I saw a grown man hork a loogie and gob it on the sidewalk! Who knows what diseases might lurk in that green pile. Clearly a law had been broken.

Then I saw four swarthy skinned men sitting in a car at the curb, clearly plotting a suicide bombing mission. No phone numbers on the car made it impossible to phone their employer.

Then to top it all off, a guy in a lifted 4x4 screeched around the corner in a left hand turn across traffic wearing the ubiquitous white sunglasses and the entitled little ingrate didn't bother to signal.

Worse. My flip phone died. and all my children will suffer because of my ignorance.

Free

[Ranets]

I witnessed a boy careening down the side walk yesterday on his bicycle. Little girls were screaming as they tried to avoid being run over by that careless youth, obviously breaking some law.

Later I saw a grown man hork a loogie and gob it on the sidewalk! Who knows what diseases might lurk in that green pile. Clearly a law had been broken.

Then I saw four swarthy skinned men sitting in a car at the curb, clearly plotting a suicide bombing mission. No phone numbers on the car made it impossible to phone their employer.

Then to top it all off, a guy in a lifted 4x4 screeched around the corner in a left hand turn across traffic wearing the ubiquitous white sunglasses and the entitled little ingrate didn't bother to signal.

Worse. My flip phone died. and all my children will suffer because of my ignorance.

Free
It always infuriates when supposedly grown intelligent adults trivialize an ongoing and ever increasing problem that likely equals if not surpasses the unnecessary drinking and driving with inane and unrelated comments just to hear themselves talk. Distracted driving is dangerous and potentially fatal on the roads and people need to start realizing the true risks involved. The penalties for both distracted and impaired driving need to be increased to reflect the true severity of both crimes. Perhaps after you lose a friend or family member to one of these "innocent" idiots your opinion may change from the fantasy, stick your head in the sand and it isn't happening world into the real world where it is an ever increasing problem which is not going to get any better without assistance from both the legal and civilian world .

[ETOWNCANUCK]

The simple fact is this is cause of many accidents. It is killing people. Plain and simple. Why are people all up in arms about drunk drivers and not about this? 100% of these incidents (they are not accidents) are preventable. I say have similar penalties to drinking and driving. The results are the same. Injured, disabled, orphaned people



What about road conditions, position of the sun, moon and stars,
Mechanical problems of the car driver inexperience and so on and so on.

Car accidents and distracted driving have been around long before people started texting.

It's sheer odds these days as to not if you get into an accident but when,
odds are not in your favour.



Yes we all know about the horrors of drinking and driving and yes there is education in the schools yet every year we have new 18 year olds who test those boundaries of their existence.

You also hear about the repeated intoxicated driver that gets released from jail and back behind the wheel.

It's an endless cycle.

Yes some learn ,
that is something one can't deny.

And seeing a car swerving all over the road deserves a 911 call.

But playing hall monitor to everyone you see texting and driving or distracted driving is fruitless,
One can only look after themselves and what is within their own control.

Isn't ironic that if you are paying attention to the guy next to you on a cell phone, that now you yourself are a distracted driver.
Don't need to be on cell phone to be one.
Worry about you and yours
You are only as good a driver until your next accident.

[bobtodrick]

It always infuriates when supposedly grown intelligent adults trivialize an ongoing and ever increasing problem that likely equals if not surpasses the unnecessary drinking and driving with inane and unrelated comments just to hear themselves talk. Distracted driving is dangerous and potentially fatal on the roads and people need to start realizing the true risks involved. The penalties for both distracted and impaired driving need to be increased to reflect the true severity of both crimes. Perhaps after you lose a friend or family member to one of these "innocent" idiots your opinion may change from the fantasy, stick your head in the sand and it isn't happening world into the real world where it is an ever increasing problem which is not going to get any better without assistance from both the legal and civilian world .

You've nailed it.
Freedom55 and Etown just like to see their words in print, bringing up inane responses and scenarios to 'prove' their points.
I wish their moms would limit their computer time a bit more.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

It always infuriates when supposedly grown intelligent adults trivialize an ongoing and ever increasing problem that likely equals if not surpasses the unnecessary drinking and driving with inane and unrelated comments just to hear themselves talk. Distracted driving is dangerous and potentially fatal on the roads and people need to start realizing the true risks involved. The penalties for both distracted and impaired driving need to be increased to reflect the true severity of both crimes. Perhaps after you lose a friend or family member to one of these "innocent" idiots your opinion may change from the fantasy, stick your head in the sand and it isn't happening world into the real world where it is an ever increasing problem which is not going to get any better without assistance from both the legal and civilian world .



I never said it wasn't wrong or wasn't happening
There just isn't any point to worry about things out of your control.

By the sheer fact that you stopped at a red light and are worried about the guy next to you you are a distraction,
Your mad,
He should put down that phone.
Your now distracted,

For how ever long it takes you to calm down
You are distracted.

Are you on the phone with the police?
You are distracted.

Why are you worried about the other guy, when what you are doing is just as bad.

Do you get it yet?

You want harsher penalties because it's just as bad as drinking and driving.

Is that not still around?

Do we not hear about it all the time? Of course we do.

This isn't a new thing.

Nor is distracted driving.

Learn yourself and teach your kids, talk to your friends,

That's all you can do.

No one can do anymore.

But if it makes you feel better, spend your days hunting down those that do it and report them,
That or shut the hell up and join a police force and actually try to do something about.

Either way, all the effort that you, or anyone else puts through on this, will take generations to fix, and by then we'll all be driven around in automated cars anyways.


You can't fix stupid.

So look after yourself.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

You've nailed it.

Freedom55 and Etown just like to see their words in print, bringing up inane responses and scenarios to 'prove' their points.

I wish their moms would limit their computer time a bit more.



Welcome to the real world son,

You can't fix stupid

[bobtodrick]

Welcome to the real world son,

You can't fix stupid

Pathetic.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

Pathetic.



Can't talk now,

I'm making a sign to put on my truck,

Hang up and drive.

Do you think I should use John 3 : 16?

[Freedom55]

Flame me all you like, in particular that bobtodrick gent. You sir are a real piece of work. But there is a reason why 262-TIPS is confidential. Turns out no one likes a rat, or people who talk out of both sides of their mouth, so the authorities have to slip them a little cash to get 'em to play.

Although it looks like some of you fellas might do for a wink and a nod.

Free

[Astrocyte]

I never said it wasn't wrong or wasn't happening
There just isn't any point to worry about things out of your control.

By the sheer fact that you stopped at a red light and are worried about the guy next to you you are a distraction,
Your mad,
He should put down that phone.
Your now distracted,

For how ever long it takes you to calm down
You are distracted.

Are you on the phone with the police?
You are distracted.

Why are you worried about the other guy, when what you are doing is just as bad.

Do you get it yet?

You want harsher penalties because it's just as bad as drinking and driving.

Is that not still around?

Do we not hear about it all the time? Of course we do.

This isn't a new thing.

Nor is distracted driving.

Learn yourself and teach your kids, talk to your friends,

That's all you can do.

No one can do anymore.

But if it makes you feel better, spend your days hunting down those that do it and report them,
That or shut the hell up and join a police force and actually try to do something about.

Either way, all the effort that you, or anyone else puts through on this, will take generations to fix, and by then we'll all be driven around in automated cars anyways.


You can't fix stupid.

So look after yourself.


You are right, you cannot fix stupid. No matter how many are caught there will be the arm chair bosses of the road saying no one can touch me so they overlook the law. There will be those who laugh at the thought of someone trying to God forbid 'control' how they behave on the roads. Always those who sneak around as much as they can because their text message is more important than anything else in that moment of driving. Those genuine better-than-thou individuals that know far more than anyone else, they sure know they can be in proper control of their vehicle all the time so eff everyone else. Some may say they even try to teach people a lesson on what they should be doing since they are exceptional drivers themselves. Those people are around and will not completely go away. Would be nice if people just smartened up but it won't happen. Many people are too arrogant for their own good.

So what do you think it will take? I mean you know about other's behavior, you do tell people to shut up when they speak opposite of you. So by extension you should know how the problem could be fixed, since no one else does. At least to a degree that would keep many morons off the road, not all of course since that is unrealistic.

Maybe triple the fine? Double the demerits? Shame people on twitter like Richmond police did to a young woman with 12 prior convictions of distracted driving?http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/british-columbia/richmond-rcmp-distracted-driving-twitter-1.3486071 Stupid people do stupid things, so what may work to fix stupid?

Distracted driving is a problem. Everyday we all see it from soccer mom's with kids in the backseat, the juiced up drivers of rig rockets, to the employee of the big commercial company driving a fully loaded 5 ton. Saying nothing can be done so leave it alone is, frankly, a piece of stupid advice. Educate us on what should or could really be done other than ignore it. Being aware of other drivers is an important aspect if not the job of a driver in a vehicle so ignoring others is not a valid option. Help me understand.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

You are right, you cannot fix stupid. No matter how many are caught there will be the arm chair bosses of the road saying no one can touch me so they overlook the law. There will be those who laugh at the thought of someone trying to God forbid 'control' how they behave on the roads. Always those who sneak around as much as they can because their text message is more important than anything else in that moment of driving. Those genuine better-than-thou individuals that know far more than anyone else, they sure know they can be in proper control of their vehicle all the time so eff everyone else. Some may say they even try to teach people a lesson on what they should be doing since they are exceptional drivers themselves. Those people are around and will not completely go away. Would be nice if people just smartened up but it won't happen. Many people are too arrogant for their own good.



So what do you think it will take? I mean you know about other's behavior, you do tell people to shut up when they speak opposite of you. So by extension you should know how the problem could be fixed, since no one else does. At least to a degree that would keep many morons off the road, not all of course since that is unrealistic.



Maybe triple the fine? Double the demerits? Shame people on twitter like Richmond police did to a young woman with 12 prior convictions of distracted driving?http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/british-columbia/richmond-rcmp-distracted-driving-twitter-1.3486071 Stupid people do stupid things, so what may work to fix stupid?



Distracted driving is a problem. Everyday we all see it from soccer mom's with kids in the backseat, the juiced up drivers of rig rockets, to the employee of the big commercial company driving a fully loaded 5 ton. Saying nothing can be done so leave it alone is, frankly, a piece of stupid advice. Educate us on what should or could really be done other than ignore it. Being aware of other drivers is an important aspect if not the job of a driver in a vehicle so ignoring others is not a valid option. Help me understand.



Don't worry about the guy next to you unless he gives you a reason to
Don't sweat the stuff you can't change
But if people feel they are righteous enough to tell others what and how to do it
I'm righteous enough to go about my day to day not worrying about it

Life is too short for me to GAF outside my personal bubble

No sense worrying about it

Everyone knows what's right and wrong

We all have free will

How you do it had no bearing on me as what I do has no bearing on you

Unless divine intervention in which case I'll buy you a beer on the other side

Just don't drive afterwards

[HowSwedeItIs]

Not that you haven't been told these things several times already

Don't worry about the guy next to you unless he gives you a reason to
Putting myself and my family at risk is a good enough reason to
Don't sweat the stuff you can't change
We can change it actually, just because we can't get them all off the streets doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything
But if people feel they are righteous enough to tell others what and how to do it
I'm righteous enough to go about my day to day not worrying about it
For a guy that hasn't been worrying about it you've been busy in this thread

Life is too short for me to GAF outside my personal bubble
" "

No sense worrying about it

Everyone knows what's right and wrong

We all have free will

How you do it had no bearing on me as what I do has no bearing on you
Ask the guy in that CBC article about how distracted drivers really have no bearing on anybody

Unless divine intervention in which case I'll buy you a beer on the other side

Just don't drive afterwards

[ETOWNCANUCK]

Not that you haven't been told these things several times already



Putting you and your family at risk is enough to what?

You can only control what you can and in the end you have no control
If it's not a distracted driver its something else.

How about you spend the time with your family and not worry about it.

Because when you get the phone call saying they're dead it's already too late and nothing you did before during or after matter

Dead is dead and there is more than one way to die and no one can prevent it

But if you want to live your life worrying about what you can't control you'll miss to much and you'll be wishing you didn't
Enjoy your life
I know I will

[hayseed]

Jeezuz, I clearly have no clue why all the uproar of white sunglasses!!!!!
I'm 44 and have white sunglasses!!!!

WTF!!!!!

I also have camo ones I wear, kinda like a tree on your face...

In my line of work, my phone is my job, lifeline, call it what you want.
I am on it a lot, at home, at work, in the garage, yard, all the time.

I have made it to blue tooth, still talk and drive, still distracted right??

Do I text and drive??? Yeah.... I have, and trying not to anymore, most calls or texts I receive require a pen and paper anyway so finding a safe spot to pull over is kinda mandate...
Let's be real here, we all do it, or have rather, I don't give really two chits about the law but at the end of the day, distracted driving IS lethal. If a feller like me can try and change, there is hope...

[Ranets]

Well with the convict type mentality that no one likes a rat (because everyone prefers a dead or crippled friend or loved one:snapoutofit:) and the single minded you can't fix stupid so why even try mentality, obviously the rest of us might as well grab a bottle of bourbon for the drive to keep us calmer while we are texting down the highway and not bother trying to fix anything because obviously it can't be fixed. You are right about one thing you can not fix stupid:shake:

[ETOWNCANUCK]

The more things change the more they stay the same.
It's not like mankind just crawled out of the swamp a hundred years ago but people think we did .

If it could happen it would have already,
It hasn't and it's never going to.

It's human nature folks.

Sure
Change your behaviour (stress your)
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[ETOWNCANUCK]

Well with the convict type mentality that no one likes a rat (because everyone prefers a dead or crippled friend or loved one:snapoutofit:) and the single minded you can't fix stupid so why even try mentality, obviously the rest of us might as well grab a bottle of bourbon for the drive to keep us calmer while we are texting down the highway and not bother trying to fix anything because obviously it can't be fixed. You are right about one thing you can not fix stupid:shake:


Now you're figuring it out.

[bobtodrick]

Flame me all you like, in particular that bobtodrick gent. You sir are a real piece of work. But there is a reason why 262-TIPS is confidential. Turns out no one likes a rat, or people who talk out of both sides of their mouth, so the authorities have to slip them a little cash to get 'em to play.

Although it looks like some of you fellas might do for a wink and a nod.

Free

awww...

[tobin]

Are you calling in because he's driving a company truck? Or because he is breaking the law?
I would belive you were a concerned citizen, if you were asking if you should call the police. This is just more social justice warrior bull****, if you belive texting and driving is going to kill someone, grow some balls and call the proper authorities! People calling employers are trying to bypass the legal system just to gain some revenge.

[Remint]

There is no excuse to life, I will contact someone if i see such reckless act

[tobin]

There is no excuse to life, I will contact someone if i see such reckless act

You do that, and please keep us updated....

[Twisted Canuck]

So just to refresh the thread, because I have really enjoyed all the mature and responsible responses we have had so far. I got a call today from the supervisor of the individual who was texting and driving that I called about, and he thanked me for calling in and reporting the driver, as the employee in question was a repeat offender and they had received 2 other complaints in the last 7 months regarding him texting and driving. And those were just people who bothered to call in.

I guess I'm not the only busy body jerk out there who finds it an issue when people behind the wheel are driving in an erratic and dangerous fashion while texting. Who would have thunk it. The driver received another reprimand, but actually belongs to a union, so he is safe to continue on in his ways for all intents and purposes. At least until he kills somebody. His supervisor and I had a great discussion about it, great guy, but pretty much handcuffed in the matter. He isn't even allowed to look at the kid's phone because of 'privacy issues'. Nice.

This seems like a good place for a quote from Will Durant.

Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos.

[Scott h]

I'm a firefighter with my local department. I'm of the "the law is the law" opinion. Nearly every MVC we respond to is a result of distracted driving, from fender benders, pedestrian strikes to highway speed collisions. When the distracted driving law came into effect I was quite hopeful that it would help but the lack of enforcement took all the bite out of the law. It's very disheartening to be working a collision scene, cleaning up a fatal accident and watch the vehicles drive by with drivers taking video of the crash or talking on the phone. Cops are right there and I've never seen them go after a driver yet. As far as business vehicles go, I've pulled dead people from business and private vehicles alike. The company logo offers no protection in a crash. I used to call and report drivers but after seeing how little is done I don't bother anymore.

Interesting observation. On the news last night they showed a lady that had collected 14 tickets for either texting or phoning while driving. They figured that the fines meant nothing to her so they have now taken away her license. Our fines are currently about $175 and I've heard that they are going to increase them to $395

[58thecat]

Interesting observation. On the news last night they showed a lady that had collected 14 tickets for either texting or phoning while driving. They figured that the fines meant nothing to her so they have now taken away her license. Our fines are currently about $175 and I've heard that they are going to increase them to $395

Should take her car too.

[Freedom55]

So just to refresh the thread...
I guess I'm not the only busy body jerk out there... [/I]

I know I shouldn't redact your post but some of doesn't bear repeating.

On the remainder, you are correct, but you all sleep better at night knowing you are on the side of the angels. thanx for your help in making our world a better place.

Free

[Ranch11]

Companies are looking for any reason to start trimming fat. Why risk cell phone usage whilst driving?
However, I've seen my supervisor post selfies of himself behind the drivers wheel on Facebook. Setting a good example he is!

[ETOWNCANUCK]

First world problems.
" I'm all high and mighty I got someone in trouble"
But the guys boss was handcuffed to do anything with a repeat offender.

Yeah
Do you know what your conversation was? A way for him to kill 10 minutes away from real pressing matters and to basically bull**** you to make you think you were actually making a difference.

Kind of like Notley and her kitchen table chat on TV the other night.
We're all screwed but I'm going to talk to you nicely in a nice setting, but there is nothing that can be done with it.

Is texting and driving bad?

Of course it is,

But it continues and will continue,
That's reality.

We all know drinking and driving kills, but it still happens.
At least we can call 911 to report the driver,
Which while doing so we're distracted driving, but it's good too get this maniac off the road,

So who do we call for the other 9 out of 10 drivers we see texting and driving, that are not in a conveniently marked company vehicle?
Maybe we need to have our moms phone numbers on the back window so people have someone to call.

Or we can start within ourselves.

We all are guilty of distracted driving in one form or another.

I have done it,
And anyone who says they haven't is full of ****.

We need to start within our own worlds before we worry about anyone else's.
And since we are all guilty of the same thing, it provides a bigger problem then just calling the cops, over it,

Because we've seen its ineffectiveness,
A lot harder to get someone for that then drinking and driving.

Talk about first world problems




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[Twisted Canuck]

I know I shouldn't redact your post but some of doesn't bear repeating.

On the remainder, you are correct, but you all sleep better at night knowing you are on the side of the angels. thanx for your help in making our world a better place.

Free

Are you back? After that last post of yours about spitting on sidewalks and other rambling observations about your children suffering because of your ignorance (post #118), I figured that we had reached the apogee of your intellectual discourse. Really appreciate everything you and Etown have added to the topic though, it's been enlightening for sure. Oh, and I don't believe in angels, but I sleep pretty good at night all the same, thanks.

[Scott h]

Should take her car too.

She's from Richmond so the cost of a car would probably mean nothing to her:thinking-006:.
How many would give up texting immediately if there was a license suspension involved like drinking and driving.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

She's from Richmond so the cost of a car would probably mean nothing to her:thinking-006:.

How many would give up texting immediately if there was a license suspension involved like drinking and driving.



Considering people still drink and drive.....

Texting would be more difficult.

If you have idiots who think " I can drive " after knocking back a few, a text to ones BFF would be " I can multi task" which is what's happening.
Also it's easier to hide that fact than, drinking.

Roadside sobriety tests exist,
But nothing exists for texting.

How many people would be ****ed about ' personal privacy rights' if they get upset when a cop wants to search their phones?

I'm sure quite a few.

If it's ok to blow in a device, to see if you've been drinking,
Then something should exist to prove you've been texting.

Pretty sure there would be many upset if something like that came into law.

[58thecat]

Considering people still drink and drive.....

Texting would be more difficult.

If you have idiots who think " I can drive " after knocking back a few, a text to ones BFF would be " I can multi task" which is what's happening.
Also it's easier to hide that fact than, drinking.

Roadside sobriety tests exist,
But nothing exists for texting.

How many people would be ****ed about ' personal privacy rights' if they get upset when a cop wants to search their phones?

I'm sure quite a few.

If it's ok to blow in a device, to see if you've been drinking,
Then something should exist to prove you've been texting.

Pretty sure there would be many upset if something like that came into law.


If the cop see's it good enough for me.
Distracted driving covers many areas and should be enforced.

I got nothing to hide on my cell phone, texts etc but then again some might and those who do are usually guilty of something.

How about all just smarten up and drive the freaking vehicle.
Simple eh?

[58thecat]

She's from Richmond so the cost of a car would probably mean nothing to her:thinking-006:.
How many would give up texting immediately if there was a license suspension involved like drinking and driving.

The cost of the loss of the car would impact her freedom to come and go, maybe loose her job:sHa_shakeshout:and then a reality check might set in etc.

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[Scott h]

Considering people still drink and drive.....

Texting would be more difficult.

If you have idiots who think " I can drive " after knocking back a few, a text to ones BFF would be " I can multi task" which is what's happening.
Also it's easier to hide that fact than, drinking.

Roadside sobriety tests exist,
But nothing exists for texting.

How many people would be ****ed about ' personal privacy rights' if they get upset when a cop wants to search their phones?

I'm sure quite a few.

If it's ok to blow in a device, to see if you've been drinking,
Then something should exist to prove you've been texting.

Pretty sure there would be many upset if something like that came into law.

They just need to look at the time of your last call or text to prove you were using it......

[ETOWNCANUCK]

They just need to look at the time of your last call or text to prove you were using it......



Which would be against privacy laws right
Or should it be mandatory

[Scott h]

Which would be against privacy laws right
Or should it be mandatory

I don't know if it is or isn't. Using a device is against the law and causes many accidents and injuries not to mention deaths every day so I don't think there would be much opposition to writing a law to include accessing your cellular plan to ascertain when and where the device was used.

[Scott h]

The cost of the loss of the car would impact her freedom to come and go, maybe loose her job:sHa_shakeshout:and then a reality check might set in etc.

You may not be familiar with most people in "Richmond". She probably bought her licence (really!!) and could replace a car quicker than it takes me to type this. And to the thought of her working.....:thinking-006:

[ETOWNCANUCK]

Good luck


http://www.edmontonsun.com/2016/04/10/old-habits-die-hard-when-it-comes-to-distracted-driving-says-edmonton-police-officer


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[duct tape doo]

Companies are looking for any reason to start trimming fat. Why risk cell phone usage whilst driving?
However, I've seen my supervisor post selfies of himself behind the drivers wheel on Facebook. Setting a good example he is!

facebook while driving deserves harsh treatment.

[Bog Sniper]

Distracted driving often mimicks impaired driving. Can never be too sure. Regardless if a guy is on the phone or not, both can have similar consequences. If I have concerns for the safety of others on the road, I'll phone it in. Rather not have the deaths of innocents on my mind, had the driver splattered a soccer mom and kids all over the road and I had known about his behaviour for the past half hour.