Castable Knots

[millsboy79]

I am trying to clean out up my presentation at the same time adding a nice long castable leader (thinking 6-8'). My question is what knot would you use to connect fluorocarbon to a superline without causing too many problems casting.

17lbs nanofil to 25 lb fluoro

Thanks for the suggestions.

[millsboy79]

Took me a few tries to get it cinched down but I am going to try the Sebile knot and see how that goes ... its seems like it is pretty low profile and strong, should be a gooder.

[millsboy79]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7IQsC6hbj4

If anyone wants to give it a go

[trigger7mm]

I use a double uni knot, and a touch of superglue. Works great.

[RavYak]

I have never used nanofil so not sure exactly how it is.

Power pro to fluorocarbon I use the no name knot.

http://www.powerpro.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/power_pro_v2/info/using_powerpro/knots/no-name_knot_.html

I like it because it is very strong and a neat knot. The loose ends are all on the reel side of line so you will never get hung up casting but you can get hung up when retrieving but that usually isn't an issue because you usually leave out a lot more line when you have a fish on.

As trigger hinted you can use super glue to smooth out any knot. I have never bothered myself but know many people do.

[millsboy79]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160526/bbc5251ee66c8dad904fa485db5cb3f9.jpg

Completed knot ... can't really beat that for low profile.

[cube]

I am trying to clean out up my presentation at the same time adding a nice long castable leader (thinking 6-8'). My question is what knot would you use to connect fluorocarbon to a superline without causing too many problems casting.

17lbs nanofil to 25 lb fluoro

Thanks for the suggestions.

Since your using Nanofil they recommend the double Albright knot.

If not using Nanofil I use the Modified Albright as it won on knot wars line to leader category. However if on the water and it is rough I use the uni to uni or bob foran knots as they are almost as strong.

The FG knot is probably about as strong as it gets but is a pain to tie on the water and I'm not sure if Nanofil will hold as it slips through most knots.

[millsboy79]

Since your using Nanofil they recommend the double Albright knot.

If not using Nanofil I use the Modified Albright as it won on knot wars line to leader category. However if on the water and it is rough I use the uni to uni or bob foran knots as they are almost as strong.

The FG knot is probably about as strong as it gets but is a pain to tie on the water and I'm not sure if Nanofil will hold as it slips through most knots.

Went with the Sebile knot ... see photo above.

[lannie]

Here is a site with some great knots with the great "instructions" for tying them.

http://www.animatedknots.com/

[cube]

Went with the Sebile knot ... see photo above.

I got that. Only included the other info in case the FG/Sebile does not work out for you or as mentioned sometimes on the water the FG/sebile can be a pain to tie in rough rainy weather.

Have a great season

[RavYak]

Yeah I wouldn't want to have to try and tie that sebile knot out on the water. Even the no name knot I use is a pain and it is pretty straightforward.

[RavYak]

No name knot using 10 lb power pro and 8 lb fluorocarbon. Little bit of fluff from tag of power pro can be seen as well as tiny tag of fluoro. This fluoro tag can get caught when reeling in with weight on the line but if you glued it then would not be an issue.

If you use heavy leader material like say 40 lb fluoro then the knot gets a bit bulkier due to the overhand knot but overall it is still fairly compact.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb267/murtyl/P5260001.jpg

[RavYak]

I can't remember exactly but this is either 30 or maybe even 40 lb power pro and a 25 lb fluoro leader with no name knot.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb267/murtyl/P5260001_1.jpg

[martinbns]

I use the Alberto knot to tie flouro leader to Power Pro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J56O3CZVu7M

[millsboy79]

I use the Alberto knot to tie flouro leader to Power Pro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J56O3CZVu7M
Awesome ... will give this one a go ...very simple / small and seems really strong.

[RavYak]

Awesome ... will give this one a go ...very simple / small and seems really strong.

I wouldn't use it with a long leader because it has a forward facing tag that will get caught on guides when casting.

The no name knot is done the exact same way, it just uses an overhand knot as a back stop instead of the loop getting rid of the forward facing tag.

[millsboy79]

I wouldn't use it with a long leader because it has a forward facing tag that will get caught on guides when casting.

The no name knot is done the exact same way, it just uses an overhand knot as a back stop instead of the loop getting rid of the forward facing tag.
Very true I tied the no name and will use that one ... but that one would be very hard in the field. I set it up for my leader today and if anything happens in the field I might use the Alberto just because it's easier for the short term. And then replace it again when I got home.

[RavYak]

Very true I tied the no name and will use that one ... but that one would be very hard in the field. I set it up for my leader today and if anything happens in the field I might use the Alberto just because it's easier for the short term. And then replace it again when I got home.

Once you get the hang of it the no name knot it isn't that difficult to tie and can easily be done in the field. There are a couple tricks but hard to explain, you will figure them out with some practice.

[millsboy79]

I was curious if anyone has joined a main line and leader with two perfect loop knots like you can do with fly line?

[RavYak]

I was curious if anyone has joined a main line and leader with two perfect loop knots like you can do with fly line?

Braid would cut through the leader material I am guessing. Plus it is a bulky connection and probably wouldn't cast very well. Works with a fly line because of the 2 larger diameter lines and because you aren't casting it through the guides.

[millsboy79]

Braid would cut through the leader material I am guessing. Plus it is a bulky connection and probably wouldn't cast very well. Works with a fly line because of the 2 larger diameter lines and because you aren't casting it through the guides.
Yep that makes sense

[millsboy79]

Note to anyone planning on tying your braided line ... tape around your first knuckle of your index fingers ... if you don't you might end up slicing your fingers. I know I have more than one. Hence why I now tape my fingers ... masking or electrical either way it works.

[millsboy79]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160602/f2ccdc9fd6009484d388744069e6e66b.jpg

This is my "no name" knot with the upgraded 50 lb fluoro ... seems huge to me.

[millsboy79]

Spent some time today practicing my sebile knot skills and have returned to that knot.

It's seems so low profile compared to the no name that I figured it was worth learning.