Do you drink while you hunt?

[Rackmastr]

Hey Guys,

I hope this doesnt turn into a brawl, so lets try and keep things civil and realize that people do things differently from one another. Feel free to post your comments but respect others choices....

Do you drink alcoholic beverages while you hunt? You can select as many choices as you'd like.

Sorry that I couldnt add more choices but think this covered the bases well enough.

[Cowtown guy]

No, No, No. Now if it is after hours back in camp, that is a different story. I however still don't drink to excess after hours either. I have never understood why some people drink to the point of a hangover and then tell everyone they are as sharp as the next guy the following day. I believe that although not drunk the next day, your reflexes and such are not as sharp. I am there to hunt. I can get hammered at home.

[TheClash]

i don't drink anyways, but i do not think firearms and booze mix..even if it just a beer with lunch. that being said...what people choose to do back at camp after the guns are put away is their decison.....but before or during is a no go for me.

[dmckay]

Personally, I wouldn't touch a firearm if I'd been drinking. As for after the hunt is over and all the guns are put away.....have at er. Not me though......just can't handle the hangovers being up early in the morning.

[Albertadiver]

I believe that before you have a drink that the guns go in the cases and the trigger guards go on. They stay that way till morning. I do have a couple of rye and coke's at the end of the hunting day back at camp. But I'm not staggering drunk to the point of a hangover either. Basically we have 2 or three good rye's and that's about it. Usually so tired after hiking anywhere from 5-20kms in the day that we have a couple of drinks with dinner and then off to bed for a very early morning.

I would hope that a person who hunts would have enough respect for the deadly weapons we carry and choose to abstain from anything during the day even if you're 'probably ok'.

[bullpike]

I have no problem with having a beer at lunch. Where one man would have a pop, I would have a beer. But I DO NOT drink enough to be "impaired" and I do not get drunk when I'm hunting.

[river_runner]

Sorry i will not vote this thread is as bad as the one that asked would you shoot after dark if you saw a big b/c deer. I hope they delet this crap

[munyee4321]

Sorry i will not vote this thread is as bad as the one that asked would you shoot after dark if you saw a big b/c deer. I hope they delet this crap

so tell why is your name under one of the current 3 votes under drinking at lunch or throughout the day?

[BrownBear416]

I am a non drinker and 99% of my hunting camps are dry...In saying that If you aren't mature enough to have a beer at lunch (If you choose) and not shoot your foot off shortly after you probably should not own firearms let alone be allowed to carry them IMO.

[Cowtown guy]

I don't want you to think I'm starting a fight here cause I'm not. Call it Devil's Advocate if you will. How many beers does it take for your reactions to become affected? Do you know the answer? Most people would have an answer of probably 3ish. The real issue is that how do we really know? Has anyone had a motor skills test done as they were consecutively drinking? I'd bet no. Do you know the effects of alcohol on your body in the cold, after you are tired, maybe hungry or dehydrated? That is the real issue here. Not just it is a bad idea. Do you really want to bet your life and the life of someone you care about on a whim? Just tell me where you hunt so I won't be around you.

I don't care to make that bet, so no booze for me. Simple answer. I think if you can't go a day or so without a beer for lunch then maybe there is a more serious issue at hand.

[bullpike]

I agree Brown Bear. Well spoken.

[Rackmastr]

Sorry i will not vote this thread is as bad as the one that asked would you shoot after dark if you saw a big b/c deer. I hope they delet this crap

Uhhh.....looks like you voted.....lol

[TheClash]

I don't want you to think I'm starting a fight here cause I'm not. Call it Devil's Advocate if you will. How many beers does it take for your reactions to become affected? Do you know the answer? Most people would have an answer of probably 3ish. The real issue is that how do we really know? Has anyone had a motor skills test done as they were consecutively drinking? I'd bet no. Do you know the effects of alcohol on your body in the cold, after you are tired, maybe hungry or dehydrated? That is the real issue here. Not just it is a bad idea. Do you really want to bet your life and the life of someone you care about on a whim? Just tell me where you hunt so I won't be around you.

I don't care to make that bet, so no booze for me. Simple answer. I think if you can't go a day or so without a beer for lunch then maybe there is a more serious issue at hand.
bingo....my thoughts exactly....impaired at home on your lazyboy with a full tummy is far different than hiking all morning at altitude, in the cold with nothing in the furnace...just too risky for me even if i did drink.

[Jerry D]

We all open beers around ~6:30pm depending.

If we get a deer, we bring it in, open beers, drink one and talk a bit, hang the deer and clean it up really good, drink another beer or so - 2 total, obvious its just casual/social drinking.

Go in around 7:30 and gramps has got dinner about ready, we normally put something in the oven on low - 300 or so @ 3pm before we go out for the afternoon. Gramps gets in just before dark while he can still see obstacles... he turns food up to 350 for an hour or so and makes sure it stays warm but not over cooked.

Then we go to sleep around 9 pm and wake up again at 5 am. I think its acceptable. If we get deer during the morning hunt we open a can of pop instead.

[sparky660]

I will have one at lunch and after the day is done sitting around the campfire I will drink my fair share. I have drank enough to have a hangover the next day but as with any hangover, at home or in the bush, I sleep it off and only if I don't have a tag to fill. If I have a tag to fill I don't get intoxicated as I want to be fresh and alert when I am wanting to fill the freezer.

[Redfrog]

i have no issues with having drinks at the end of the day. But I hunted 30 years with an Italian who would sometimes have a glass of wine with lunch. I wasn't worried that he was going to turn into a mass murderer.

A lot of the same guys that get quite indignant about the thought of someone having a beer or glass of wine with lunch probably wouldn't have a problem getting in their car after a couple of pints at the pub. Or having a few on the ice while fishing and then drive home.

Common sense

i don't think anyone should be hunting and drinking, or hunting while impaired, but I see no problem with those who have a beverage with a meal mid day.

[Dick284]

I think thread says it best.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=7345

[FishBrain]

NOPE!!
Dont drink till the day is done, when hunting with certain people there is no drinking unless an animal has been taken. some weekends the beer goes home with us.
I do like to have a good rye and water after dinner before bed tho

[hornhead]

i'll have a scotch or a beer after all the rifles are put away.

just as a test i had a glass of wine with dinner. a couple of hours later i went to do some target shooting at an indoor range.

couldn't shoot worth nothing ... not that i'm that great to begin with.

it doesn't take much booze to throw you off target. a crappy shooter like me needs all the edge he can get.:D

[Okotokian]

Hey Guys,

I hope this doesnt turn into a brawl, .

Then why are you asking? This seems to be a classic "stir the pot" thread. Do you seriously think you are going to have a civil, reasoned discussion regarding the pro's and con's of getting hammered while toting a loaded gun? I guess I'm at a loss as to what the intent is. :scared:

[IR_mike]

I'll have a few after the day is done,but not before. I have no problem with the guys that say they have one with a meal at dinner.

I am not wanting to reopen the claudio ongaro earlier contraversy about guiding but twice in the past 6 years once in zone 400 and once in 330, I have given rides to the nearest town/phone to two groups of people. All during hunting season, all carrying guns, all head to toe in camo, all drunk and still drinking. This was at 5:00 pm and 10:30 am respectivly.

In both cases they had attempted to take vehicles were I would think twice about taking a quad. I know it doesnt represent 99.9% of us, but its the .01% that the non hunters notice, remember and reflect badly on the rest of us.

[pdfish]

Then why are you asking? This seems to be a classic "stir the pot" thread. Do you seriously think you are going to have a civil, reasoned discussion regarding the pro's and con's of getting hammered while toting a loaded gun? I guess I'm at a loss as to what the intent is. :scared:

I second that notion. Is it just me or are people getting a little stir-crazy on the board lately? Spring will be here soon.

[TheClash]

i'll have a scotch or a beer after all the rifles are put away.

just as a test i had a glass of wine with dinner. a couple of hours later i went to do some target shooting at an indoor range.

couldn't shoot worth nothing ... not that i'm that great to begin with.

it doesn't take much booze to throw you off target. a crappy shooter like me needs all the edge he can get.:D

hope you didn't drive yourself to that range haha

[albertadave]

I have no problem with having a beer at lunch. Where one man would have a pop, I would have a beer. But I DO NOT drink enough to be "impaired" and I do not get drunk when I'm hunting.
On the "Hunting Camps" thread you said you have 2 or 3 beers with lunch, here you say "A" beer. So which is it? There's a big difference between 1 beer and 3, in terms of what will make you legally impaired. You get pulled over by a cop at 1:30 in the afternoon and tell him you had one beer at lunch, chances are he sends you on your way. Tell him you had three and you're probably going to get to blow in his little machine.

[rem338win]

I do believe that firearms use and booze are not a good mix. I personally will not hang around if live guns and booze are being used simultaneously, because judgment and inhibitions become impaired when you have consumed.
That being said, I have and will bed a rifle, or do some other no-brainer work when I am enjoying a cold one. As long as the gun isn't live I am good.
I won't give a fella a hard time about having a beer at lunch or some such during a hunt, but I have never been compelled to. Having a few seems like you have a problem if you can't wait until the end of the day.
I definitely enjoy one (or five) at the end of the day.
I think this thread is a good wake-up call for some who may be acting irresponsibly, and need to know the hunting community is happy to see you held responsibly.
On another note, if you are hunting with a rifle and ammunition readily available, and F&W catches you also in possession of alchohol with good reason to believe that you have been consuming, you are asking for it.
Dangerous handling of a Firearm is not out of the question.
Like everything, use common sense.

[The Rog Man]

I don't want you to think I'm starting a fight here cause I'm not. Call it Devil's Advocate if you will. How many beers does it take for your reactions to become affected? Do you know the answer? Most people would have an answer of probably 3ish. The real issue is that how do we really know? Has anyone had a motor skills test done as they were consecutively drinking? I'd bet no. Do you know the effects of alcohol on your body in the cold, after you are tired, maybe hungry or dehydrated? That is the real issue here. Not just it is a bad idea. Do you really want to bet your life and the life of someone you care about on a whim? Just tell me where you hunt so I won't be around you.

I don't care to make that bet, so no booze for me. Simple answer. I think if you can't go a day or so without a beer for lunch then maybe there is a more serious issue at hand.


Because of what I do for a living and who i work with i know exactly how much i can drink before i am both mentally and legally impaired. That being said i would never and I mean never drink while actively hunting but that is just my own choice. Booze and guns just don't mix for any reason IMHO.I have a couple of whiskeys when i get back too camp as others have stated as a nite cap but thats it cuz anymore and it hurts when that alarm goes off sooooo early in the morning.
If you can't even hunt half a day without booze perhaps you have a problem???

[dubbya]

The "buck" bottle only gets opened up when a bucks in the ground. Until then, its a dry camp.

[Rackmastr]

Then why are you asking? This seems to be a classic "stir the pot" thread. Do you seriously think you are going to have a civil, reasoned discussion regarding the pro's and con's of getting hammered while toting a loaded gun? I guess I'm at a loss as to what the intent is. :scared:

Well with that way of thinkin we wouldnt discuss ANYTHING political or anythin that differs in opinions. Just because people disagree on something doesnt mean it needs to be a brawl, and that was my point. A civil discussion about differing ideas is what makes the internet such an interesting tool.

If all we did was asked about different hunting areas and didn discuss anything that we MIGHT disagree on then I'm not sure what we'd be doing here.

This thread wasnt intended to be an argument or a 'stir the pot' thread. It was brought up as some people do things differently, neither of which is wrong, and I was curious about opinions. Posts like yours are an attempt to 'stir the pot' just as much, so thank you very much kettle....

[Cowtown guy]

Because of what I do for a living and who i work with i know exactly how much i can drink before i am both mentally and legally impaired.

If you have done the tests, you are one of the few. I had testing done for a project and I was amazed at how little booze it took before I was not normal. Not drunk or impaired by any means but not how clear thinking I was during the control portion of the test. That was a real eye opener for me. I am a big guy and I can handle my liquor but I found that after 2 drinks my brain wasn't communicating with my eyes like it was during the control. I felt nothing at all in the way of being impaired.

[prospector]

That being said, I have and will bed a rifle, or do some other no-brainer work when I am enjoying a cold one. As long as the gun isn't live I am good.

I too enjoy a few at the end of the day, and I admit sometimes feeling a little lonely during those cold nights, but I honestly can't say I've ever drank enough to bed a rifle...

[Rackmastr]

On the "Hunting Camps" thread you said you have 2 or 3 beers with lunch, here you say "A" beer. So which is it? There's a big difference between 1 beer and 3, in terms of what will make you legally impaired. You get pulled over by a cop at 1:30 in the afternoon and tell him you had one beer at lunch, chances are he sends you on your way. Tell him you had three and you're probably going to get to blow in his little machine.

Its also interesting to note that being impaired, although related, is not measured by an ASD. A person can be impaired and be well under the limit of .08 mg%

[BearnDown]

I voted that I wait till the end of the day, and thats the way I do it, but I wouldn't have a problem hunting with a fella that had a bottle of Bud at lunch time while I had a Coke, provided its a bottle of Bud...and on that note, thats why I don't partake at lunch time. I've never been one of those guys that has a beer. One turns into three, turns into nine, turns into a cab ride home lol. I'm responsible enough to know that I'm irresponsible with booze lol.


And as for the bickering and pickin at each other, Jesus boys its almost over, go ice-fishin er sumthin lol.

[Walleyes]

I know one thing ,,,, what one man does in his camp is his buisness not mine nor is what goes on in my camp anyone else's.. I certainly ain't going to discuss it on this site learned that a long time ago.. Way to many B.S.er's on here just lookin for a pat on the back for being good little boys lololol..

[gunslinger]

if im hunting with my bow and we come in for lunch or something i will usually have a beer and clam with dinner, nothign wrong with that.

If im hunting with my rifles i will not drink at all nor will i let my kids see me drinking then go hunting.

[Dick284]

FWIW:
Most indiustries consider too impared to work at a blood alcohol level of 0.02g/ml

As the accompaning link shows once 0.03 g/ml is attained, things get a bit un predictable.

http://www.upei.ca/~stuserv/alcohol/bac1.htm

Now the law says only to be imparied while hunting, it does not state a BA level, so who wants to challenge this one in court?

[bunnyhunter]

I too enjoy a few at the end of the day, and I admit sometimes feeling a little lonely during those cold nights, but I honestly can't say I've ever drank enough to bed a rifle...

:lol::lol::lol: good one! not sure what the poster was actually trying to say..... but how could you resist...

seriously...when the buck/doe. 4 legged meat wonder......is hanging...I can put my ammo, guns , away and break out the SINGLE MALT.

celebration after the hunt.

those that can say..I KNOW my limit,,,heard that before:rolleye2::rolleye2:

[The Rog Man]

If you have done the tests, you are one of the few. I had testing done for a project and I was amazed at how little booze it took before I was not normal. Not drunk or impaired by any means but not how clear thinking I was during the control portion of the test. That was a real eye opener for me. I am a big guy and I can handle my liquor but I found that after 2 drinks my brain wasn't communicating with my eyes like it was during the control. I felt nothing at all in the way of being impaired.

The police (not mentioning exactly who) put on a coarse for their officers and invite selected individuals too participate in a calculated and very well controlled study too see people drink and get drunk so they can see how fat/skinny/male/female etc people react as they drink and get drunk.
It is very well controlled and supervised. as well the machines that test your breath are there and used and timed intervals so we all get too see how we react over time with measured amounts of alcohol.
And your right it doesn't take much for you too become impaired.
If a cop , even a fish cop even smells alcohol on your breath he can bust you especially if you are on a quad....Drinking and driving laws apply too all vehicles , even a bicycle !!!

[BearnDown]

Its also interesting to note that being impaired, although related, is not measured by an ASD. A person can be impaired and be well under the limit of .08 mg%

And actually, on that note, if you follow the letter of the law, its illiegal to hunt if you have had any booze whatsoever to drink...

GENERAL PROHIBITIONS
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It is unlawful to

carry or use another person's licence or tag or allow another person to use your licence or tag.

harass, injure or kill any wildlife with a vehicle, aircraft or boat.

hunt any wildlife with or from an aircraft, or communicate, for the purpose of hunting, the signs or whereabouts of wildlife seen during a flight on an aircraft.

transport dead wildlife taken by others without an accompanying bill of lading (click here for downloadable pdf ) signed by the licence or permit holder and providing the following details:
the kind and number of the licence under which the wildlife was killed or possessed,a description of the wildlife,the points of origin and destination, and
the date on which the wildlife is to be transported.
the points of origin and destination, and
the date on which the wildlife is to be transported.

set out, use or employ any of the following items for the purpose of hunting any wildlife:
an arrow equipped with an explosive head,
a firearm that is capable of firing more than one bullet during one pressure of the trigger or a firearm that can be altered to operate as such,
a light,
a shotgun of a gauge greater than 10,
a device designed to deaden the sound of the report of a firearm,
recorded wildlife calls or sounds, or an electrically operated calling device, except when hunting snow geese with the use of calls or sounds that mimic snow geese and the hunting does not occur with the use of decoys that mimic migratory game birds other than snow geese.
a pistol or revolver,
live wildlife,
a swivel set or spring gun, or
a poisonous substance or an immobilizing drug.

allow the edible meat of any game bird or big game animal, except cougar or bear, to be wasted, destroyed, spoiled or abandoned.

have a loaded firearm (live ammunition in breech, chamber or magazine) in or on, or discharge a weapon from
a boat unless the boat is propelled by muscular power or is at anchor and the person is hunting, or
any kind of aircraft or vehicle whether it is moving or stationary.
Note: Ammunition may be carried in a magazine that is not attached to the firearm. Click here for contact information regarding federal firearms legislation.
discharge a weapon within 183 m (200 yards) or cause a projectile from a weapon to pass within 183 m (200 yards) of any occupied building. Owners, occupants, or persons authorized by the owner or occupant are excepted, subject to local bylaws.
discharge a firearm from or cause a projectile from a firearm to pass along or across:
a) a provincial highway,
b) a road that is paved, oiled, graded or regularly maintained, unless
- the road is held under any active disposition under the Public Lands Act or under an order under the Surface Rights Act, or
- the person is hunting game birds with a shotgun under the authority of a licence.
hunt any wildlife while impaired by alcohol or drugs.
hunt any wildlife or discharge a firearm between one-half hour after sunset and one-half hour before sunrise. (See sunrise/sunset table)
alter, destroy or remove any sign or notice that has been posted under the authority of the Wildlife Act, Petty Trespass Act or the Migratory Birds Regulations.
hunt any wildlife or discharge any firearm on or over occupied land or enter on to such land for the purpose of doing so without the consent of the owner or occupant of the land. NOTE: There is an additional requirement affecting access for guided hunts (Click here for information on Hunting Privileges on Occupied, Private & Public Land, or scroll down for more information).
possess a firearm of a calibre larger than .22 in a helicopter over WMUs 400-446.
hunt with a firearm if you are under 18 years of age and not accompanied by a parent, legal guardian or by a person 18 years of age or older who has the written permission of the parent or legal guardian. Click here for Canadian Firearms Centre contact information.
disturb traps, sets or trapping cabins.

There are different levels of impairment. 0.08 is just the driving max. 2 sips of beer impairs you....if you wanna get technical

[jaylow?]

i dont drink while im hunting, i got buddys that do. i dont care. but i also dont like cruising around on a quad all day while im hunting. i save it for back at deer camp. we usually save a night or two to get on er pretty hard. no ones up for morning hunts after those.:lol:

[Bighorn madness]

Hum lets see one beer to wake up "hey some drink coffee" two beers to help load the truck :D.One more beer to help get to the gas station now off to the happy hunting grounds 2hrs-2 1/2hrs depending on road condition's :rolleyes:4 more beers .

Still dark out almost at happy hunting grounds on dirt road suddenly deer jumps out on to the road hits the truck and dies on the other side of road ,hit head on steering wheel knock me out temp."Come too "steam is comeing out from the hood of truck not good have one more beer to get my bearing straight :).

I get out of the truck and the empty cans fall out onto the road i look at the damage not to bad .I walk over to the dead deer WOW what a big deer 150 -170 class not sure .So i decided to take the deer but dam :mad2: my knife was dull it took a beer and 20 min to sharpen the knife three more beer's to clean the deer up and load it up ,very tired by this point must rest drove off to SNOOZE.

Woke up 4hrs. later had three more beer's to kill the pain in my head not sure why it hurt so much:ashamed: oh yah the bump on the head :cry:truck barely started and the temp gage riseing pass half not good had another beer to walk 1/2 mile to get water from the small lake not feeling good at this point :sick:but made it back to the truck and filled her up way i went home 2hrs-2 1/2hrs depending on road condition's :rolleyes:4 more beers .

Home now what a day :confused:wanting something a little more out comes the rum one good drink to help hang the deer one to skin the deer .Day is done bed time .
























Do i drink while hunting no :D

[BearnDown]

I think I speak for everyone when I say "What the hell was that?"

lol

[gitrdun]

The only thing I drink when hunting is water. My two hunting buddies and I do have a little motto of our own and it goes "whiskey by 11". This means elk must be down and on the pack saddles before the little flask is brought out for a sip.

Now, if I could just stay off the internet when I've had one wine too many, I wouldn't get banned for a month from another forum nor would I buy a gun I didn't need in the first place. :innocent:

[jaylow?]

I think I speak for everyone when I say "What the hell was that?"

lol

he was joking , finish reading it.

[Cowtown guy]

The police (not mentioning exactly who) put on a coarse for their officers and invite selected individuals too participate in a calculated and very well controlled study too see people drink and get drunk so they can see how fat/skinny/male/female etc people react as they drink and get drunk.
It is very well controlled and supervised. as well the machines that test your breath are there and used and timed intervals so we all get too see how we react over time with measured amounts of alcohol.
And your right it doesn't take much for you too become impaired.
If a cop , even a fish cop even smells alcohol on your breath he can bust you especially if you are on a quad....Drinking and driving laws apply too all vehicles , even a bicycle !!!
This is exactly what I was referring to. I was part of the fat male category.:(

[deanmc]

Sorry if this is inappropriate but why do i see names repeated in different answers under poll results? I dont even get the option to vote more than once. Not worried just interested in how these polls work.

[blackpheasant]

I too enjoy a few at the end of the day, and I admit sometimes feeling a little lonely during those cold nights, but I honestly can't say I've ever drank enough to bed a rifle...

:lol::lol::lol: I love my rifle to but..........

[The Rog Man]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rog Man View Post
The police (not mentioning exactly who) put on a coarse for their officers and invite selected individuals too participate in a calculated and very well controlled study too see people drink and get drunk so they can see how fat/skinny/male/female etc people react as they drink and get drunk.
It is very well controlled and supervised. as well the machines that test your breath are there and used and timed intervals so we all get too see how we react over time with measured amounts of alcohol.
And your right it doesn't take much for you too become impaired.
If a cop , even a fish cop even smells alcohol on your breath he can bust you especially if you are on a quad....Drinking and driving laws apply too all vehicles , even a bicycle !!!

This is exactly what I was referring to. I was part of the fat male category.:(

Geeze if yer name was Dale I was gonna say i might know ya?
If you were on that coarse was it in Cowtown or Edmonton???
I may know some of the same people you know?
I know some CPS guys but mostly i know the Edmonton guys.
small world aint it??


edit: Sorry for sidetracking this thread, I'll be good from now on....honest???

[gitrdun]

:lol::lol::lol: I love my rifle to but..........

Yeah well to some.....it might be a tight fit, but maybe not to some other poor bastagues. :p:p:p

[dcutter]

I'm the first to admit, I have hurried back to camp on a cold night to have a little "warm up"...maybe even left a stand a little bit earlier than I should have if it was really cold...just because I could hear Mr Beam calling for help :) But I would never handle my guns after having even a little snort.

[MountainTi]

Will not drink while road hunting on rough roads, you have no idea how sticky a rifle action gets after a few splashes of rye and coke on it. :evilgrin:


Must be running pretty low on topics for polls. :)

[Matt L.]

Yeah well to some.....it might be a tight fit, but maybe not to some other poor bastagues. :p:p:p

Oh, my fock. I want compensation to help remove the mental image! :lol::lol::lol:

[duffy4]

One has to define "do you drink..."

I like the flavor of coffee with a tablespoon of Irish Cream Liquor in it. (Feeney's is my present favorite, 16% Alc/Vol) So I often leave home with a "flavored" coffee in my traveling cup. I don't consider this "drinking".

I will not do any "real" drinking while hunting and will not hunt with anyone who does. And I hope I am never hunting anywhere near Walleyes camp cause who knows what might be going on there????
"...what one man does in his camp is his buisness not mine nor is what goes on in my camp anyone else's..."

When the day is done I like a beer or a rum and, or both and another.

Then I can do a little reading up on Elk hunting "stragity........................"

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b174/duffy4/102_0860.jpg

[BIGBADJOHN]

I know personally I wont have more then 1 drink then drive.

I sure as hell know I wouldn't even have 1 drink then carry a rifle in hand.
However we will lock the rifles/ shotguns up put then away where the safe and secure , and then have a drink or 3 . Nothing like sitting around the fire watching the stars talking about our day , enjoying fresh back straps . I know to some folk refuse to follow the laws set out , or maybe there putting on a show to get a rise out of other law biding forum members.

Keep in mine if in fact you are drinking and hunting you'll get caught eventually.

Keep in mind the laws and regulations set out to keep us and you safe .

GENERAL PROHIBITIONS

It is unlawful to

- the person is hunting game birds with a shotgun under the authority of a licence.
- hunt any wildlife while impaired by alcohol or drugs.
hunt any wildlife or discharge a firearm between one-half hour after sunset and one-half hour before sunrise. (See sunrise/sunset table)

[Jamie]

Never been our thing in Camp to drink before heading out, or while out or while back for lunch.

At night.. Well thats a different story. When I was younger I didnt care to drink at all in Camp.. I thought i had plenty of time to do that at home. Now I am more relaxed in camp and if I miss a day or a morning due to being lazy or feeling like I need to sleep in.. Its not that big of a deal.

I have started to look at my trips as a vaction.

What ever you do guys.. Just be safe.

Jamie

[Donny Bear]

Hum lets see one beer to wake up "hey some drink coffee" two beers to help load the truck :D.One more beer to help get to the gas station now off to the happy hunting grounds 2hrs-2 1/2hrs depending on road condition's :rolleyes:4 more beers .

Still dark out almost at happy hunting grounds on dirt road suddenly deer jumps out on to the road hits the truck and dies on the other side of road ,hit head on steering wheel knock me out temp."Come too "steam is comeing out from the hood of truck not good have one more beer to get my bearing straight :).

I get out of the truck and the empty cans fall out onto the road i look at the damage not to bad .I walk over to the dead deer WOW what a big deer 150 -170 class not sure .So i decided to take the deer but dam my knife was dull it took a beer and 20 min to sharpen the knife three more beer's to clean the deer up and load it up ,very tired by this point must rest drove off to SNOOZE.

Woke up 4hrs. later had three more beer's to kill the pain in my head not sure why it hurt so much oh yah the bump on the head :cry:truck barely started and the temp gage riseing pass half not good had another beer to walk 1/2 mile to get water from the small lake not feeling good at this point :sick:but made it back to the truck and filled her up way i went home 2hrs-2 1/2hrs depending on road condition's 4 more beers .

Home now what a day :confused:wanting something a little more out comes the rum one good drink to help hang the deer one to skin the deer .Day is done bed time .
























Do i drink while hunting no :D

:lol: I use to work with the guy your joking about he never drank while hunting but occasionally was known to hunt while drinking Never did hunt or drink with him:D

[4570]

I think drinking while hunting is okay as long as its monitored:mad3:

By who?
Another drinker?

Yourself when you hunt alone? WTF...

[4570]

I drink while hunting :rolleyes:

Earl Grey tea, hot.

Nice with a dab of dark honey. :)

[Hoochie Papa]

Maybe a beer or two after supper while playing cards, but never enough that I feel it in the morning.
Last night out though, probably sit around the fire and let loose. Sleep in the next morning.

[spudislander]

I've ran into a few fellows back home who like to drink and duck hunt. With their version of duck hunting being driving around from pond to pond having a few pops and water swatting what ever ducks they come across. It's a little unnerving as a 16 year old when these guys put the stalk on your decoys. That being said I've been known to have a beer or two when I'm bass fishing on a hot Ontario day or deep sea fishing, but never when I'm hunting.

[Okotokian]

It was brought up as some people do things differently, neither of which is wrong, and I was curious about opinions.

Well, I'd disagree on the "neither of which is wrong" assessment given you asked people if they did something illegal (drinking while hunting, which is illegal unless you are taking shots from your residence or a licenced establishment). As I said, I'm still not sure what your intent was, but I can live with my confusion. :D Question withdrawn. LOL

[ehntr]

I think thread says it best.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=7345

Why? But of course you think it's best.....it's your work....it originated in your mind, translated by your fingers onto the keyboard, submitted to some server and displayed on the www for posterity (eventually archived and deleted):rolleyes:

I like all of Redfrog's choices:D

Some of the poll choices could put you in an unlawful situation......so yeah, its definately a thread that is destined to provoke some people into their righteous corners. No votes from me...
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[bullpike]

On the "Hunting Camps" thread you said you have 2 or 3 beers with lunch, here you say "A" beer. So which is it? There's a big difference between 1 beer and 3, in terms of what will make you legally impaired. You get pulled over by a cop at 1:30 in the afternoon and tell him you had one beer at lunch, chances are he sends you on your way. Tell him you had three and you're probably going to get to blow in his little machine.

Theres a lot more that comes into play here constable Dave, such as body weight, frequency of alcohol consumtion, physical condition and a number of other factors as I'm sure you would atest to from your experience as a rcmp officer. If you are uncomfortable with me having a couple of beer (2 or 3)with my lunch(over the course of an hour or two including a hearty meal), not being drunk then perhaps you should stay out of the woods! Some people actually can have a couple of beer without getting drunk! Crazy eh.

[Cowtown guy]

Theres a lot more that comes into play here constable Dave, such as body weight, frequency of alcohol consumtion, physical condition and a number of other factors as I'm sure you would atest to from your experience as a rcmp officer. If you are uncomfortable with me having a couple of beer (2 or 3)with my lunch(over the course of an hour or two including a hearty meal), not being drunk then perhaps you should stay out of the woods! Some people actually can have a couple of beer without getting drunk! Crazy eh.

The point that is being made is that there is a difference between impaired and drunk. I know I am not drunk after 3 or 4 drinks. I can assure you that I am most definitely impaired after 2. That is a guarantee. By the way who says you are not drunk or impaired? You?

[Redfrog]

"I like all of Redfrog's choices"

Yeah I'm kinda sorry about that Ehntr. I hate quizzes and I had an estrogen moment. i just wanted to say whatever and then argue about it.:D

I'm feeling a little dehydrated here, and I hate Daylight Savings time. It means I have to wait another hour till 5 o'clock.:tongue2:

I think I'll start a poll on personal hygiene.:evilgrin:

[rem338win]

I too enjoy a few at the end of the day, and I admit sometimes feeling a little lonely during those cold nights, but I honestly can't say I've ever drank enough to bed a rifle...

OUCH! I did set myself up well didn't I? Hey that's a nice Marlin you have there? 45-70? No? Ohhhhhhh, .444 Marlin. Sounds, uh, nice. Can I see it?:love:

For the fella that didn't know what bedding a rifle was, it's when you use a epoxy/fibre compound to gain 100% action to stock contact. It helps with accuracy. So does Pilsner. Try it.

And actually, on that note, if you follow the letter of the law, its illiegal to hunt if you have had any booze whatsoever to drink...

GENERAL PROHIBITIONS
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It is unlawful to


hunt any wildlife while impaired by alcohol or drugs.

There are different levels of impairment. 0.08 is just the driving max. 2 sips of beer impairs you....if you wanna get technical

Not technical there are statutory and parliamentary standards for impairment. And you have to meet those to be charged. 1 beer isn't likely to get you that charge. But on principle if you are a man, and it happens to be some grapefruit/pineapple, light rum/vodka concoction, then let the book hit you in the head.

The only thing I drink when hunting is water. My two hunting buddies and I do have a little motto of our own and it goes "whiskey by 11". This means elk must be down and on the pack saddles before the little flask is brought out for a sip.

Now, if I could just stay off the internet when I've had one wine too many, I wouldn't get banned for a month from another forum nor would I buy a gun I didn't need in the first place. :innocent:

That one was a classic, and very entertaining. We all have our moments, and if you are going to have them, they should at least make someone laugh. You really have no shame left in that. But, I have to ask: What gun?

[FallAirFever]

Our hunt camps are as much or more about relaxing and being with good friends in the outdoors as they are about hunting. So having a couple of drinks after the day is done while is the norm. It seem every year one of us has a couple too many at the end of the day last year it was me while I was cooking up our steak dinner.

I dont even pack beer when I am hunting with my son, not big on drinking alone and I could not imagine if I had a couple and something happened in the middle of the night that I had to deal with, just not worth it.

Guns and booze not a good mix!

[Steamer08]

Beer and juice for breakfast. Beer and juice for lunch. Many more after the day is done. I have no problem with this at all. It's funny that no one has mentioned presciption drugs. The good sh@t will f#@k you up more than 1 or 2 beer. I don't do these of course, beer and vodka keeps me sane.

[Okotokian]

I rarely drink

[Okotokian]

I only drink at night

[Okotokian]

I would never drink while hunting. Never

[Okotokian]

Is there a liquor store on the way??? Open before legal shooting time?

[Steamer08]

Is there a liquor store on the way??? Open before legal shooting time?

Beer and juice at my camp before legal shooting time. Oh ya, that depends on how many I had the night before. Sometimes I don't get up that early.:evilgrin:

[bullpike]

The point that is being made is that there is a difference between impaired and drunk. I know I am not drunk after 3 or 4 drinks. I can assure you that I am most definitely impaired after 2. That is a guarantee. By the way who says you are not drunk or impaired? You?

Is it ok for you to judge yourself when you say that you are "impaired" after two but for me to say I'm not. Where's the logic in that? Anyway, I don't really want to debate this any more. Next subject please!

[honda450]

Dang hard to hold a beer in one hand and a rifle in the other while driving a quad. So I installed a cup holder on the handlebars. he he he :tongue2:

[tbaz]

I'm drunk now.

[Deer Hunter]

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/AlbertaFleaBags/untitled.jpg

[bullpike]

I'm drunk now.

Grab your gun lets go far a drive

[Okotokian]

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/AlbertaFleaBags/untitled.jpg

sit real far back guys.... gasoline on the fire :lol:
Hey Deerhunter, you don't write a column for any magazines, do you? :lol:

[BearnDown]

Now fishin on the other hand......

I often bring a DD with me out Ice Fishin cuz I like to tip em on the ice.

I often bring 2 or 3 cans of beer with me Caddis fishin on the Bow at night.

I often bring a cooler fulla beers with me in the boat when I'm Pike fishin in the Spring.

No matter what, I never drive when I've had too much to drink or drink when theres guns around. I figure the worst I could do with a fishin rod is stick myself with a fly...and I can live with that........

[redneck posse]

i think it has a lot to do with how your parents where in camp. and how you were raised. i know growning up our hunt camps, had more beer coolers than deer hanging most of the time. and a beer with lunch was the norm. so you got used to the idea. i have no problem if someone in my party has A beer with lunch. but i would have a problem if they had 3 or 4. i also don't have a problem if someone i'm hunting with would tell me. hey would you please not have that beer right now as i'm not comfortable with it. i would put it away, it all comes down to knowing your limits and respect for the people your with.

[Okotokian]

I often bring a cooler fulla beers with me in the boat when I'm Pike fishin in the Spring.

No matter what, I never drive when I've had too much to drink

ummm you drive the boat, don't you? on a "cooler fulla beers"? You do realize you just admitted to breaking the law, right? :scared:

[lineman4 life]

I too enjoy a few at the end of the day, and I admit sometimes feeling a little lonely during those cold nights, but I honestly can't say I've ever drank enough to bed a rifle...

LMFAO:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[TheClash]

Now fishin on the other hand......

I often bring a DD with me out Ice Fishin cuz I like to tip em on the ice.

I often bring 2 or 3 cans of beer with me Caddis fishin on the Bow at night.

I often bring a cooler fulla beers with me in the boat when I'm Pike fishin in the Spring.

No matter what, I never drive when I've had too much to drink or drink when theres guns around. I figure the worst I could do with a fishin rod is stick myself with a fly...and I can live with that........

and how do you get to and from your fishing hole???

[BearnDown]

As noted above, I have a DD with me on the ice.

I only bring 2 or 3 beers with me on the river that are usually shared with a fishin buddy.

And on the lake theres always more than one of us, and always a DD......oh and no motor on the boat btw either lol.

[huntinstuff]

i might put some Baileys in my tea after supper, or have a glass of wine with supper two or three times in a week......but no more than one per day.

Too many things can go wrong without being half cut on top of it......

[gunned]

`huntin isn't what it use to be for me, in fact I rarely mix "hunting" with guns these days, that would interfere with the beer naps in the middle of the day

Don`t you hate it when a spry and sober "hunting" partner comes back to camp in the middle of the afternoon with his trophy, a small effort to get me off the cot in front of the airtight... some people!

As far as alcohol and guns, no, not a good mix either.

[honda450]

Man there is alot of angels on this poll. Wonder what the poll would be like if the voters name were hidden.:evilgrin:

Another useless poll. Got interest though.:tongue2:

[albertadave]

Theres a lot more that comes into play here constable Dave, such as body weight, frequency of alcohol consumtion, physical condition and a number of other factors as I'm sure you would atest to from your experience as a rcmp officer. If you are uncomfortable with me having a couple of beer (2 or 3)with my lunch(over the course of an hour or two including a hearty meal), not being drunk then perhaps you should stay out of the woods! Some people actually can have a couple of beer without getting drunk! Crazy eh.OK bullpike, I'm going to type this really, really slow, so that if you happen to be reading this after lunch, you'll be able to understand what I'm saying. As has been stated over and over, I'm not talking about being drunk, it's you that keeps using that word. I said impaired. Drunk and impaired, two totally different things. Look it up. Still with me big guy? OK, now go read the hunting regulations.

[deanmc]

and how do you get to and from your fishing hole???

I think DD is Designated Driver.

[duffy4]

OK bullpike, I'm going to type this really, really slow, so that if you happen to be reading this after lunch, you'll be able to understand what I'm saying. As has been stated over and over, I'm not talking about being drunk, it's you that keeps using that word. I said impaired. Drunk and impaired, two totally different things. Look it up. Still with me big guy? OK, now go read the hunting regulations.


Hey I looked it up! Drunk = Impaired. Same thing!

drunk   /drʌŋk/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [druhngk] Show IPA
–adjective 1. being in a temporary state in which one's physical and mental faculties are impaired by an excess of alcoholic drink; intoxicated: The wine made him drunk.

[albertadave]

Hey I looked it up! Drunk = Impaired. Same thing!

drunk   /drʌŋk/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [druhngk] Show IPA
–adjective 1. being in a temporary state in which one's physical and mental faculties are impaired by an excess of alcoholic drink; intoxicated: The wine made him drunk.

Sigh.........hey, I looked it up too, and the dictionary defintion of the word impaired doesn't use the word drunk, so I guess they're not the same thing.

im⋅paired   /ɪmˈpɛərd/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [im-paird] Show IPA
–adjective 1. weakened, diminished, or damaged: impaired hearing; to rebuild an impaired bridge.
2. functioning poorly or inadequately: Consumption of alcohol results in an impaired driver.
3. deficient or incompetent (usually prec. by an adverb or noun): morally impaired; sports-impaired.

[Cowtown guy]

Is it ok for you to judge yourself when you say that you are "impaired" after two but for me to say I'm not. Where's the logic in that? Anyway, I don't really want to debate this any more. Next subject please!

Yes it is OK. The logic lies in the FACT that I can judge myself because I have actually sat down in a closed environment and done the testing. It had a control to it so you have something to compare this to. Like I said before, not drunk but impaired. There is a huge difference between the two and that is where the inherit risk lies. The testing was a shock to every single person in the room.
I for one would like to continue the debate as maybe it will open others eyes to the issue that they may well be impaired and not even realize it. It only takes 1 quick lapse in judgement to make a horrible mistake. Maybe even kill somebody. Nobody should be taking that risk. Nobody else in the woods should be put at risk because of the macho guy that can't wait for the end of the day to have a couple of drinks.

[Rackmastr]

Just for the record, the most COMMON definition of impairment in relation to impaired driving offences is the following:

A deterioration of attention, comprehension and judgement and the loss of fine motor skills and control to an extent so as to make the operation of a vehicle unsafe.

[Cowtown guy]

Now fishin on the other hand......

I often bring a DD with me out Ice Fishin cuz I like to tip em on the ice.

I often bring 2 or 3 cans of beer with me Caddis fishin on the Bow at night.

I often bring a cooler fulla beers with me in the boat when I'm Pike fishin in the Spring.

No matter what, I never drive when I've had too much to drink or drink when theres guns around. I figure the worst I could do with a fishin rod is stick myself with a fly...and I can live with that........

I'll wade into this one too.

http://boating.ncf.ca/alcohol.html
Some interesting reading that is here. I will admit that not everything may apply to us here in Alberta but it might be worth looking into. I'm not judging you here. I am just giving you some info that may keep your butt out of trouble if this applies in Alberta. It says

Red Cross statistics: Boating and Alcohol

* 37% of boaters in Canada admit to consuming alcohol every time they boat.
* 66% report they drink alcohol sometimes when boating.
* Alcohol is a factor in over 40% of recreational boating fatalities.

The Red Cross claims that up to 200 Canadians will drown this year as a result of boating-related incidents, and 25% of those will have alcohol in their blood. Many other incidents involving even serious injuries are not reported.

In all provinces of Canada, operating a boat while under the influence of alcohol is illegal. In some provinces, no one on board can consume alcoholic beverages while the boat is being operated. In provinces like Ontario, you can't even transport alcohol unless the boat is classed as a "home" with sleeping accommodations and a head. There are differences between provinces, but all require alcohol on board to be packaged and out of reach.

Like I said just make sure you are OK to do so in Alberta. To each their own but I know that I wouldn't want to bet my life on saving myself if I was intoxicated while in the water.

[uglyelk]

I'm sick of this pc stuff!

I'm sick of all this I'm a better hunter than you bs.

I'm sick of this stupid poll! Okay I give up you elitist buggers win.. .yes you are the greatest thing since sliced bread...And Buwanna wasn't even worthy of standing in your shadow. Your rifles are prettier, shoot longer and straighter than anything us mere mortals could even dream of. Hell we are not even worthy of walking on the ground you god like creatures have deficated on. Your extra special!

We are engaged in an immoral harvest, we select the wrong animal, method, species , phase of the moon, etc. We carry the wrong caliber, we choose the wrong mode of transport, we don't brain tan the hide, we don't pickle the grouse feet, we don't stuff the shcit tubes with meat, we don't eat the bone marrow....WE ARE UN WORTHY....but we are better than indians! Indians don't hunt correctly and they don't need to hunt. Does that cover it?

Hope i didn't miss anything....just a general rant.



If no one drinks in the bush who is it that's leaving all the damn empties in the bush?

They are everwhere, fell from the sky I suspose. Maybe the airlines are

sprinkling them about, some sort of cost savings measure.


Anyhow...I use to drink when I hunted...put I kept spilling it on the crack

pipe and putting it out. We also got so drunk we would fall and break the

crack pipe. so we started using our rifles as crack pipes.

That worked pretty good...they one day we saw the moose of our dreams

and my buddies lips were wrapped around the end of my rifle. Some chemical

schit was smoldering in the reciever.That was the last straw I started

hunting by myself.

But I don't feel any safer. I've known for along time that most of the folks I

encounter in life are not all there. I own a solid waste company. We have

collect waste from thousands of road side garbage cans over the years. And

every one of them has a significant number of empty beer cans etc in them.

I share the road every day with lots of drunk drivers. It's a small wonder I

can make it to the sacred hunting grounds without some drunken peckerwood

killing me on the government road. Some guys live in a bubble! Yeah it's a

cleaner brighter better bubble but it's a still a bubble.

If you don't want to see your values challenged, paint your bubble black and

stay at home.

[deanmc]

I'm sick of this pc stuff!

I'm sick of all this I'm a better hunter than you bs.

I'm sick of this stupid poll! Okay I give up you elitist buggers win.. .yes you are the greatest thing since sliced bread...And Buwanna wasn't even worthy of standing in your shadow. Your rifles are prettier, shoot longer and straighter than anything us mere mortals could even dream of. Hell we are not even worthy of walking on the ground you god live creatures have deficated on. Your extra special!

We are engaged in an immoral harvest, we select the wrong animal, method, species , phase of the moon, etc. We carry the wrong caliber, we choose the wrong mode of transport, we don't brain tan the hide, we don't pickle the grouse feet, we don't stuff the shcit tubes with meat, we don't eat the bone marrow....WE ARE UN WORTHY....but we are better than indians! Indians don't hunt correctly and they don't need to hunt. Does that cover it?

Hope i didn't miss anything....just a general rant.



If no one drinks in the bush who is it that's leaving all the damn empties in the bush?

They are everwhere, fell from the sky I suspose. Maybe the airlines are

sprinkling them about, some sort of cost savings measure.


Anyhow...I use to drink when I hunted...put I kept spilling it on the crack

pipe and putting it out. We also got so drunk we would fall and break the

crack pipe. so we started using our rifles as crack pipes.

That worked pretty good...they one day we saw the moose of our dreams

and my buddies lips were wrapped around the end of my rifle. Some chemical

schit was smoldering in the reciever.That was the last straw I started

hunting by myself.

But I don't feel any safer. I've known for along time that most of the folks I

encounter in life are not all there. I own a solid waste company. We have

collect waste from thousands of road side garbage cans over the years. And

every one of them has a significant number of empty beer cans etc in them.

I share the road every day with lots of drunk drivers. It's a small wonder I

can make it to the sacred hunting grounds without some drunken peckerwood

killing me on the government road. Some guys live in a bubble! Yeah it's a

cleaner brighter better bubble but it's a still a bubble.

If you don't want to see your values challenged, paint your bubble black and

stay at home.



Well said.

[hunter10]

My dad has a beer at lunch OR after a kill and I will have a pop.

Or its just better to wait until the hunt is over and then have some, thats better. But I dont see anything wrong with having one at lunch or something like that.

[albertadave]

I'm sick of this pc stuff!

I'm sick of all this I'm a better hunter than you bs.

I'm sick of this stupid poll! Okay I give up you elitist buggers win.. .yes you are the greatest thing since sliced bread...And Buwanna wasn't even worthy of standing in your shadow. Your rifles are prettier, shoot longer and straighter than anything us mere mortals could even dream of. Hell we are not even worthy of walking on the ground you god live creatures have deficated on. Your extra special!

We are engaged in an immoral harvest, we select the wrong animal, method, species , phase of the moon, etc. We carry the wrong caliber, we choose the wrong mode of transport, we don't brain tan the hide, we don't pickle the grouse feet, we don't stuff the shcit tubes with meat, we don't eat the bone marrow....WE ARE UN WORTHY....but we are better than indians! Indians don't hunt correctly and they don't need to hunt. Does that cover it?

Hope i didn't miss anything....just a general rant.



If no one drinks in the bush who is it that's leaving all the damn empties in the bush?

They are everwhere, fell from the sky I suspose. Maybe the airlines are

sprinkling them about, some sort of cost savings measure.


Anyhow...I use to drink when I hunted...put I kept spilling it on the crack

pipe and putting it out. We also got so drunk we would fall and break the

crack pipe. so we started using our rifles as crack pipes.

That worked pretty good...they one day we saw the moose of our dreams

and my buddies lips were wrapped around the end of my rifle. Some chemical

schit was smoldering in the reciever.That was the last straw I started

hunting by myself.

But I don't feel any safer. I've known for along time that most of the folks I

encounter in life are not all there. I own a solid waste company. We have

collect waste from thousands of road side garbage cans over the years. And

every one of them has a significant number of empty beer cans etc in them.

I share the road every day with lots of drunk drivers. It's a small wonder I

can make it to the sacred hunting grounds without some drunken peckerwood

killing me on the government road. Some guys live in a bubble! Yeah it's a

cleaner brighter better bubble but it's a still a bubble.

If you don't want to see your values challenged, paint your bubble black and

stay at home.

Nice rant, I got about half way through it before I lost interest. OK, now read the quote below.
To me guns and beer go together like spaghetti and meatballs.
I disagree with this statement and I think the poll results show that I'm in the majority. Using common sense ie. not mixing guns and alcohol, has nothing to do with being PC or elitist. Sorry, you're wrong.

[Steamer08]

[QUOTE=uglyelk;282121]I'm sick of this pc stuff!

I'm sick of all this I'm a better hunter than you bs.

I'm sick of this stupid poll! Okay I give up you elitist buggers win.. .yes you are the greatest thing since sliced bread...And Buwanna wasn't even worthy of standing in your shadow. Your rifles are prettier, shoot longer and straighter than anything us mere mortals could even dream of. Hell we are not even worthy of walking on the ground you god live creatures have deficated on. Your extra special!

x2 on this one. It seems that every time I go through threads, there are always the "holier than thou" idiots preaching what they believe, trying to belittle everyone who opposes their ideology. Gets tiring after a while. By the way dave, the reason why you are a majority in this poll is because the ones who do drink a beer or two while hunting are not taking part because they know they will just be bashed by "special " people like yourself.:tongue2:

[albertadave]

x2 on this one. It seems that every time I go through threads, there are always the "holier than thou" idiots preaching what they believe, trying to belittle everyone who opposes their ideology. Gets tiring after a while. By the way dave, the reason why you are a majority in this poll is because the ones who do drink a beer or two while hunting are not taking part because they know they will just be bashed by "special " people like yourself.:tongue2:

Sorry, I must be following the wrong thread because the only belittling and bashing I see on here is from the guys who think it's OK to drink and shoot guns, and then get their backs up when it's pointed out to them that they may be in the wrong. The only justifcation I see coming from the drinker/shooter side is "I can do whatever I want, whenever I want, and noone can tell me otherwise, right or wrong, legal or not". How can a reasonable, sensible person even try to debate with that kind of thinking? I'm done with this one.:wave:

[Steamer08]

See, this is your problem. No one is talking about getting hammered and hunting. I'm talking about possibly A beer at breakfast and maybe A beer at lunch. Then I have you telling me that I am impaired and not even hunting legally.

[BearnDown]

A beer at breakfast and maybe A beer at lunch. Then I have you telling me that I am impaired and not even hunting legally.


You're not hunting legally if you had a beer at breakfast and a beer at lunch. Remember, no 0.08 on hunting.


Mmmmmmm, breakfast beer.

[bullpike]

I've been checked numerous times by f&w while in camp at lunch when having a beer and not one time was I hassled.Why u ask because I was obviously not impaired. To get hassled about having a beer I have to come to this thread and deal with judgemental, holier than thou goofs like you constable dave. Guess for me to get caught all f'd up I got to wait to be caught by cowtown. Too bad I don't drink and drive. You'll have to catch me outside of a pub at lunch having a smoke so you can charge me after my 2 beer for being impaired in public! Can't believe guys like this have any authority at all. Thank god for lawyers! If you guys don't have the brain capacity to have two beer and then handle a firearm WTF are you doing with one to begin with?

[Take Em!]

I'll wade into this one too.

http://boating.ncf.ca/alcohol.html
Some interesting reading that is here. I will admit that not everything may apply to us here in Alberta but it might be worth looking into. I'm not judging you here. I am just giving you some info that may keep your butt out of trouble if this applies in Alberta. It says

Red Cross statistics: Boating and Alcohol

* 37% of boaters in Canada admit to consuming alcohol every time they boat.
* 66% report they drink alcohol sometimes when boating.
* Alcohol is a factor in over 40% of recreational boating fatalities.

The Red Cross claims that up to 200 Canadians will drown this year as a result of boating-related incidents, and 25% of those will have alcohol in their blood. Many other incidents involving even serious injuries are not reported.

In all provinces of Canada, operating a boat while under the influence of alcohol is illegal. In some provinces, no one on board can consume alcoholic beverages while the boat is being operated. In provinces like Ontario, you can't even transport alcohol unless the boat is classed as a "home" with sleeping accommodations and a head. There are differences between provinces, but all require alcohol on board to be packaged and out of reach.

Like I said just make sure you are OK to do so in Alberta. To each their own but I know that I wouldn't want to bet my life on saving myself if I was intoxicated while in the water.

If 37% of people admit to always drinking while they boat and 66% admit to drinking sometimes while they boat and only 40% of boating accidents involve achohol than looking at that statistic you could readily make the claim that thier is no statistical significance to alchohol and boating accidents (i.e. you are just as likely to get in a accident while not drinking as drinking).
Getting back to the main thread. I said yes I think it is fine to have a few drinks throughout the day. I actually can't drink at all personally because of a heart condition that I found out about a 2 years ago so I really have no personal agenda in this. Look, the reality is that as long as someone is drinking within a reasonable limit and are a responsible individual they are probably not a threat to you. Yes, they may be slightly "more impaired" then if they didn't have anything to drink but alchohol is not the only factor that impairs someone. They could be impaired because they didn't sleep enough the night before, they could be impaired because they are stressed out from work/personal life... there are hundreds of things that impair individuals every minute of everyday, should I not go hunting with someone if any of them are present? After all, they are not functioning at their optimal performance! (Of course I realize that it is a lot easier to not have a drink then allieviate some of these other stresses but impairment is impairment). The reality is that a Bailey's with coffee in the morning, or a couple beers with lunch doesn't make an average individual a deadly threat to us all. Back in the day (lol I'm 25), it would take me at least a couple of sixers before the beer goggles kicked in and that fat moose started to look like a cute deer! So to summarize, know your limits, stay within them, and it is all good!

[MrDave]

Strange thought to those who drink while hunting. How about you go push some bush for me while I break my own rules about drinking with firearms? You go make some noise in the bush and hope that 2 or 3 drinks don't make me screw up. Is there a good age to introduce my son to shooting while drinking? Can I smoke some weed to steady my hands after I have a few drinks? How do you guys get to and from camp? Does your DD feel safe pushing bush with you? I grew up with alcoholics and was one for years. When I here someone saying that they can drink a few and not be impaired I realize that they actually have a drinking problem as well as a case of the denials. Go ahead and B**ch me out. I smartened up in life and think that if you have the ability to kill a fellow hunter with what you have in your hands, you better have all your wits about you. Denial is a drinkers best defense method, " I can drink and not be drunk." I seen enough drinking hunters in the bush where I grew up, slashed a few of their tires too. Ever watch a drunk change tires in the bush? Worth the price of admission for sure. Kept them there until the mounties made the 45 minute trip.:tongue2:

[Copidosoma]

Hmmm, well, I guess I'm "holier than thou".

No alcohol with hunting. I can see a sip of scotch in the evening (I'm not a big beer fan) but not while the guns are out. I don't care what someone's blood alcohol level is or whether they think they aren't impaired (actually you don't need to be 0.08 or even 0.04 to be impaired).

Drinking and hunting is pretty much the worst image we as a community can project to the rest of the people out there. Crackin' a beer while waiting for a deer to walk by gives the antis fantastic material to work with (and I know alot of folks around here are very concerned about what the antis do). Frankly, it is exactly the sort of thing that kept me from starting hunting for so long.

And if I feel that I need to have a beer with breakfast I have a problem.

[Cowtown guy]

I've been checked numerous times by f&w while in camp at lunch when having a beer and not one time was I hassled.Why u ask because I was obviously not impaired. To get hassled about having a beer I have to come to this thread and deal with judgemental, holier than thou goofs like you constable dave. Guess for me to get caught all f'd up I got to wait to be caught by cowtown. Too bad I don't drink and drive. You'll have to catch me outside of a pub at lunch having a smoke so you can charge me after my 2 beer for being impaired in public! Can't believe guys like this have any authority at all. Thank god for lawyers! If you guys don't have the brain capacity to have two beer and then handle a firearm WTF are you doing with one to begin with?

You don't really understand what the argument is. I don't know if you are impaired or not after 2. I also don't give a crap. The problem is you don't know if you are impaired. When was the last time you asked a person who was obviously a little drunk if they were drunk? What is the answer 99% of the time? They will say "I'm not drunk." That is because the booze doesn't allow people to think in a normal rational manner.
It only takes one mistake and something serious can happen. Why risk it? That is the real question here.

[Take Em!]

Strange thought to those who drink while hunting. How about you go push some bush for me while I break my own rules about drinking with firearms? You go make some noise in the bush and hope that 2 or 3 drinks don't make me screw up. Is there a good age to introduce my son to shooting while drinking? Can I smoke some weed to steady my hands after I have a few drinks? How do you guys get to and from camp? Does your DD feel safe pushing bush with you? I grew up with alcoholics and was one for years. When I here someone saying that they can drink a few and not be impaired I realize that they actually have a drinking problem as well as a case of the denials. Go ahead and B**ch me out. I smartened up in life and think that if you have the ability to kill a fellow hunter with what you have in your hands, you better have all your wits about you. Denial is a drinkers best defense method, " I can drink and not be drunk." I seen enough drinking hunters in the bush where I grew up, slashed a few of their tires too. Ever watch a drunk change tires in the bush? Worth the price of admission for sure. Kept them there until the mounties made the 45 minute trip.:tongue2:


Dear Dave,
Congrats on beating alchoholism. I happen to know some people who have also accomplished the feat and it is a terrible addiction/struggle. Unfortunately you are ignoring one little fact... you can't use your own struggles with alchohol and assume that everyone reacts the same way you did. The way you reacted is why you were an alchoholic. The sad truth is that we all react differently to the substances we put in our bodies. Some bodies have the ability to break things down faster than others and certain substances seem to effect people in different ways. The reality is some people can have a couple of beers and while they may be impaired to some degree they certainly are not to the point where I would be afraid that they would mistake me for a deer. Once again this just goes to the "know your limits" reality. I'll be honest I would much rather push bush for an experienced hunter who had a few beers then a new hunter who doesn't have a clue what they are doing.

[Cowtown guy]

If 37% of people admit to always drinking while they boat and 66% admit to drinking sometimes while they boat and only 40% of boating accidents involve achohol than looking at that statistic you could readily make the claim that thier is no statistical significance to alchohol and boating accidents (i.e. you are just as likely to get in a accident while not drinking as drinking).


Not 40% of the accidents but 40% of the fatalities.

[TheClash]

i guess i fall into the holier than thou fraternity..even though i don't drink and have said i don't care if people drink back at camp...however i do think drinking while hunting is a no go.....but my question is this....not being a drinker....never have..i don't understand the logic of drinking the beer if you are not going to get any effect from the alcohol? isn't the purpose of drinking alcohol to feel the effects? and if you aren't feeling those effects from your two beers at noon or 3 or whatever....then why drink it? if it is for the taste..why not take along non alcoholic beer for lunch then...get the same taste and don't have to take the chance that today might be the day you body reacts differently to alcohol and you make a terrible mistake......again i am not trying to be judgemental...i really do not understand.....in my mind you drink alcohol because you like the effects acohol has or you like the taste of the product....so if it is for taste, why not go non alcoholic while in the field? or does the alcohol add that much "flavor" to your beer that is lacking so incredibly from non alcoholic choices?

[MrDave]

Dear Dave,
Congrats on beating alchoholism. I happen to know some people who have also accomplished the feat and it is a terrible addiction/struggle. Unfortunately you are ignoring one little fact... you can't use your own struggles with alchohol and assume that everyone reacts the same way you did. The way you reacted is why you were an alchoholic. The sad truth is that we all react differently to the substances we put in our bodies. Some bodies have the ability to break things down faster than others and certain substances seem to effect people in different ways. The reality is some people can have a couple of beers and while they may be impaired to some degree they certainly are not to the point where I would be afraid that they would mistake me for a deer. Once again this just goes to the "know your limits" reality. I'll be honest I would much rather push bush for an experienced hunter who had a few beers then a new hunter who doesn't have a clue what they are doing.
All studies show that everybody's liver processes alcohol at about the same rate with the biggest difference being the size of the liver. Individual tolerances come with the practice you have with drinking, if you have ate and many other reasons. This is the excuse so many drunk drivers use, isn't it? " I am used to drinking so a couple doesn't make me drunk." So the guy you go hunting with isn't "drunk" how about the other guy sitting on the ridge up the cutline? How many is he allowed to drink? Is it okay if he has a few? Gonna bet on his tolerances? Denial is great when you are drunk but can you live with the results of your decision the next day. What is the limit on how many drinks is okay if someone shoots at you? " Honestly man i only had two beers at lunch." Are you gonna say that it was okay if someone says that to you if they shoot your hunting buddy? Or are you gonna say that you didn't have enough hunting experience to be drinking while shooting? Hunt for a few more years before you start shooting while drinking!!? Wow. stuns me to think that years of experience hunting makes you a better impaired shooter.

[redneck posse]

well what ever your preference a cold bud or a cold pepsi for lunch. hunting is about time in the bush with friends and family. if anyone on this forum should happen by my camp, fell free to stop in for a cold what ever. the cooler is almost always full and the coffee will be on. kevin:wave:

[pdfish]

well what ever your preference a cold bud or a cold pepsi for lunch. hunting is about time in the bush with friends and family. if anyone on this forum should happen by my camp, fell free to stop in for a cold what ever. the cooler is almost always full and the coffee will be on. kevin:wave:

AMEN!! Forward me the GPS coordinates, and I'm there.

[bullpike]

You don't really understand what the argument is. I don't know if you are impaired or not after 2. I also don't give a crap. The problem is you don't know if you are impaired. When was the last time you asked a person who was obviously a little drunk if they were drunk? What is the answer 99% of the time? They will say "I'm not drunk." That is because the booze doesn't allow people to think in a normal rational manner.
It only takes one mistake and something serious can happen. Why risk it? That is the real question here.

I unsterstand what you are saying cowtown but I disagree that a couple of beer with a hearty meal will affect my thinking to the point where I now become a hazard to everyone around me. I also don't have a drink everytime I go hunting but it is my right to have a beer should I so desire one. I don't feel that I am "risking" anything at all.
As for Mr.Dave, I don't know you well enough to push anything for you! Would you push bush for anybody you haven't hunted with before? I know I wouldn't. Heres where you are throwing common sense out the window and crossing right into ethical hunting issues. I am sure that the "antis" would rather have me with two beer in my system shooting at poor little bambi then you pushing bush. How many animals have you wounded or put several shots into to put down or do they come out of the bush standing still. I am betting lots. Not a fan of pushing bush, more of a one shot one kill kind of guy. I guess its personal preference as is whether or not I want to have a couple of beer with lunch.I can't recall a single instance where I was impaired and wounded an animal(or person). Just lucky I guess.

[Okotokian]

elitism, political correctness.... :huh:.

On most issues we here on the board seem to break things down into two camps: those things which are illegal and those which are legal.

On illegal acts we have, for the most part, been pretty adamant that the law must be followed, even if you think it's wrong. We've had little respect for those who knowingly break the law.

For legal acts, the issue is more one of morals or ethics. Those are open to discussion for sure, but you have to at least listen to and respect the opinions or actions of someone who sees things differently.

I'd say this distinction has served us reasonably well so far. So lets look at the drinking issue that way.

Hunting while impaired - Illegal
Hunting after drinking but NOT impaired - Legal
(admittedly we have a problem with the term "impaired". When driving it's GENERALLY seen as .08 (though you COULD be convicted with a lower reading). It isn't defined at all in the regs or wildlife act.)

Having that drink at the bar at lunch - Legal
Having that drink out in the field on public land while hunting - Illegal unless at your campsite (temporary residence).

So if you admit to the legal stuff, we can have a polite and respectful conversation about it, but feel free to continue. If it's the illegal stuff, expect to get called on it.

[BearnDown]

it is my right to have a beer should I so desire one. I don't feel that I am "risking" anything at all.


The same could be said about snapping a beer while on the highway then couldn't it? One beer dosn't affect anybody enough to impair them, so it must be ok then right?

Drinking while you're driving is no different than drinking while you're hunting. They're both against the law and they're both wrong. 1 sip, 2 sips, 1 can, 1 case, whatever. ITS ILLIEGAL.

And whoever mentioned that the antis will love this, yer absolutley right. We're not doin ourselves any favors here boys.

[jtoews80]

Well, this is certainly an interesting discusion, good pick. Sometimes, the pot NEEDS stirring, that leads to questions and self reflection. All in all, a good thing as one needs to know why his/her opinion is as such.

I don't drink much and certainly not while hunting. I really don't think that 1 or 2 would have any positive results. More than likely, it wouldn't cause a wreck in a vehicle(as that would be under legal .05), wouldn't lead to somebody getting accidentally shot or an accidental trophy Angus bull.

I personally would be alot more concerned about being stopped by a F&W or LE personnel and having any signs of comsuming alcohol. The likelihood of having an unpleasant inspection is certain, and the probablity of some sort of charges also very good. In short, it isn't needed and most likely will reduce your performance in the field. As well, the image of the shooting sports must be kept intact or we will lose the right to hunt and own firearms.

Also, IF that 1 or 2 turns into more and an accident were to happen, regardless of whether or not you were at fault, it would be a very difficult to avoid criminal charges of some sort. The inability to defend oneself in a court of law as the "guy who was hammered" is obvious.

I grew up in a border town across from a county in Minnesota that had a fatality most seasons. In that 9 day season, we would not go across the line into town to buy groceries or anything and that was our nearest center(30km). The nearest Canadian center was 110km away. The accidents were usually a result of guys bringing 3 flats of beer and a couple bottles of liquor to camp. There were obviously other problems, but the alcohol really caused the stupidest accidents.

Like the guy who drank all night, got up @ 6am, went out to his treestand and proceeded to climb on up and hunt for awhile with his safety off on a 7mm mag. After some time the effects of his drinking set in and he either: passed out and dropped his rifle or just dropped his rifle. The end result was a hunter being found laying below his treestand after bleeding to death from a 7mm round that entered from belowhim and exited his chest.

There was also a 22 year old woman that was shot thro both knees while driving down the road from a careless shot that kept going.

And the guy that shot at a bush that moved after seeing a large buck and killed his hunting partner.

This is the stuff that makes all of us look very dangerous to anybody in an area that is hunted and I realize that over the past few years safety training and a reduction in hunter numbers have really put a lid on these accidents. We still MUST avoid any incidents and if not drinking in the field will help then don't do it. It isn't really a question of if you can do it safely, 99% of everyone that drinks could have a couple and not have issues. Just don't do it for the 1% of the time that it could.

This is just my opinion, thanks.

JT.

[kyle_7777]

i guess i fall into the holier than thou fraternity..even though i don't drink and have said i don't care if people drink back at camp...however i do think drinking while hunting is a no go.....but my question is this....not being a drinker....never have..i don't understand the logic of drinking the beer if you are not going to get any effect from the alcohol? isn't the purpose of drinking alcohol to feel the effects? and if you aren't feeling those effects from your two beers at noon or 3 or whatever....then why drink it? if it is for the taste..why not take along non alcoholic beer for lunch then...get the same taste and don't have to take the chance that today might be the day you body reacts differently to alcohol and you make a terrible mistake......again i am not trying to be judgemental...i really do not understand.....in my mind you drink alcohol because you like the effects acohol has or you like the taste of the product....so if it is for taste, why not go non alcoholic while in the field? or does the alcohol add that much "flavor" to your beer that is lacking so incredibly from non alcoholic choices?


Read the whole thread and this post made rediculous amounts of sense. I would agree those are the only 2 reasons to drink. I am a non drinker but used to hunt with people who liked to have beers at lunch, and drink heavily after back at the cabin. I never really felt unsafe but like TheClash i always failed to see the point of lunch beers.

[Take Em!]

All studies show that everybody's liver processes alcohol at about the same rate with the biggest difference being the size of the liver. Individual tolerances come with the practice you have with drinking, if you have ate and many other reasons. This is the excuse so many drunk drivers use, isn't it? " I am used to drinking so a couple doesn't make me drunk." So the guy you go hunting with isn't "drunk" how about the other guy sitting on the ridge up the cutline? How many is he allowed to drink? Is it okay if he has a few? Gonna bet on his tolerances? Denial is great when you are drunk but can you live with the results of your decision the next day. What is the limit on how many drinks is okay if someone shoots at you? " Honestly man i only had two beers at lunch." Are you gonna say that it was okay if someone says that to you if they shoot your hunting buddy? Or are you gonna say that you didn't have enough hunting experience to be drinking while shooting? Hunt for a few more years before you start shooting while drinking!!? Wow. stuns me to think that years of experience hunting makes you a better impaired shooter.

Dave,
You missed my point.. "know your limit and set it". So yes I will trust the guy who has had two beers if he honestly knows that he is within his limits (and I don't want to here the "how does he know" arguement because we are talking theareticals here). As for if he shoots my hunting buddy... what if he does it while sober? Should I be like, hey man don't worry.. you weren't drinking so it is cool. My point was that I believe it is a lot more likely that a new hunter who doesn't know what they are doing is going to shoot me then an experienced hunter who has had a few drinks within his limits. The real issue here is defining what we all mean by impaired. I would suggest a good marker for this would be the .08 that we use for drunk driving. That number is the point where in studies they can actually show some kind of statisical significance to the effects of alcohol. As for the processing of alcohol, you are correct we all process at pretty much the same rate (1 drink per hour), this is of course affected by the factors that you listed such as size, food intake, dehydration, etc. There are also genetic factors involved however as some people have a larger amount of the 2 enzymes in the liver that break down alcohol. Like I said.. none of us are perfectly the same. I think what some of you are missing is that none of us who are proponents of a drink at lunch are saying it is cool to get bombed! We are saying that with one or two beers at lunch you are probably not to impaired to hunt. And I am with the guy who has the full cooler of pop and beer, I am stocked up as well and anyone is welcome to either. Once again Dave, congrats on beating alcoholism. Just realize that we are not all affected the way you were by a drink.

[Take Em!]

Not 40% of the accidents but 40% of the fatalities.

That doesn't change the point. Think about it logically.. if 37% of people are always drinking.. and 65% of people admit to drinking sometimes.. than lets just say that at least 40% of people on boats are drinking (the 65% of sometimes raise the overall point percentage from 37% to 40% for arguement sake). Now you say 40% of fatalities are due to alchohol... well of course! 40% of people are drinking... that means that 60% of fatalities are caused by the 60% of people who are not drinking. There is no significance to these numbers at all.... you are just as likely to cause a fatality not drinking as drinking with these statistics.

[Take Em!]

Read the whole thread and this post made rediculous amounts of sense. I would agree those are the only 2 reasons to drink. I am a non drinker but used to hunt with people who liked to have beers at lunch, and drink heavily after back at the cabin. I never really felt unsafe but like TheClash i always failed to see the point of lunch beers.

Funny I know lots of people who fail to see the point of hunting no matter how hard I try and explain it.

[Cowtown guy]

That doesn't change the point. Think about it logically.. if 37% of people are always drinking.. and 65% of people admit to drinking sometimes.. than lets just say that at least 40% of people on boats are drinking (the 65% of sometimes raise the overall point percentage from 37% to 40% for arguement sake). Now you say 40% of fatalities are due to alchohol... well of course! 40% of people are drinking... that means that 60% of fatalities are caused by the 60% of people who are not drinking. There is no significance to these numbers at all.... you are just as likely to cause a fatality not drinking as drinking with these statistics.

The reason for posting wasn't actually that part. It was the part of possibly being illegal and subject to fines depending on where you are. That just happened to be pasted with it.
I still don't want to trust myself drunk trying to save my life. With the inducing of alcohol comes poorer choices. I believe that is a pretty good assumption.

Way off topic by the way.

[Take Em!]

The reason for posting wasn't actually that part. It was the part of possibly being illegal and subject to fines depending on where you are. That just happened to be pasted with it.
I still don't want to trust myself drunk trying to save my life. With the inducing of alcohol comes poorer choices. I believe that is a pretty good assumption.

Way off topic by the way.

Agreed.. just thought it was funny that they didn't realize that the posted a statistic that basically refutes their arguement. And yes definately illegal and definately seen fines enforced out in the Shu. But seriously... what is fishing without a cold one?:)
And sorry.. wasn't trying to hijack the thread... won't happen again.

[albertadave]

Oh for krisesake, I know i said I was done with this stupid argument....but....
I've been checked numerous times by f&w while in camp at lunch when having a beer and not one time was I hassled.Why u ask because I was obviously not impaired. Or could it possibly be the fact that you were in CAMP and not out walking around with a gun??? To get hassled about having a beer I have to come to this thread and deal with judgemental, holier than thou goofs like you constable dave. If this forum has taught me anything it's that when someone resorts to name calling it's a sure sign that they losing the argument. Guess for me to get caught all f'd up I got to wait to be caught by cowtown. Too bad I don't drink and drive. You'll have to catch me outside of a pub at lunch having a smoke so you can charge me after my 2 beer for being impaired in public! Can't believe guys like this have any authority at all. Thank god for lawyers! You kind of lost me here, you must have typed this right after lunch :lol:If you guys don't have the brain capacity to have two beer and then handle a firearm WTF are you doing with one to begin with? If you don't have the brain capacity to understand that even 1 or 2 beer can cause impairment then it's you who shouldn't be handling firearms. 1 beer doesn't cause any impairment you say? Then please explain to me why pilots are forbidden from having even 1 drink within 24 hours prior to flying an airplane. And before you jump down my throat, no, I'm not suggesting the same rules should apply to hunting, I'm just saying that alcohol, in any amount, does cause impairment, it's just a fact.

[bullpike]

Dear Delburne Dave, Since our last conversation on here, I have found the lord. He has shown me the error in my ways and I have taken up a twelve step program for both my drug(Vitamin C and Multivitamin) and alcohol addiction. Thank you for both your enlightening words of wisdom and your support. I'll pray for you. Sincerely Bull

P.S. Now can we be friends

[7mm-08]

I wait until the day of hunting is done, then pound back a few cold ones!!!:D

[FallAirFever]

Don`t you hate it when a spry and sober "hunting" partner comes back to camp in the middle of the afternoon with his trophy, a small effort to get me off the cot in front of the airtight... some people!



Sorry bout that! Me and my trohpy doe :tongue2:
You dont seem to mind when its eggs and backstrap for breakfast the next morning though!

[albertadave]

Dear Delburne Dave, Since our last conversation on here, I have found the lord. He has shown me the error in my ways and I have taken up a twelve step program for both my drug(Vitamin C and Multivitamin) and alcohol addiction. Thank you for both your enlightening words of wisdom and your support. I'll pray for you. Sincerely Bull

P.S. Now can be friends Wow, you made it through a whole post without calling me an idiot. I guess we are friends now. :rolleye2:

[hal53]

so much for no "brawl"...BTW....all you guys that drink at lunch....could you post the WMU's you hunt in please?????

[bullpike]

Dear Delburne Dave, sorry it took so long to back back to you as I have been in detox(having a hard time kicking the vitamin c), just wanted to let you know that you are not an idiot and definately never wrong. I wish nothing but the best for you. Sincerely your friend, Bullpike.

P.S. I'm drunk right now. I just finished lunch

[albertadave]

P.S. I'm drunk right now. I just finished lunch
Yah, I could tell. Real good stuff there bullpike, real good stuff. I can just imagine how witty you'd be when you're actually sober.

[hal53]

see he didn't post what WMU..he hunts in, maybe should explain what that means?????....seriously, would prefer to hunt in area where I feel reasonably certain, the others haven't had 1 or 2 or 3 at lunch....realistaclly if u have 1 at lunch why????...have a soda.....if you 2 or more stay away from me.....just my thoughts......nothing wrong with having a cold one in camp....guns are put away and getting supper done.....when u get as old as me if u have more than that.....u ain't going hunting in the morning:lol::lol:

[bullpike]

My wmu is Alberta, you should find a new one. And as long as others in Alberta that voted the way I did aren't in your zone. Seriously because I enjoy a beer, probably as much as you enjoy a can of ensure Hal at your age. This thread must almost be dead now.

[Okotokian]

This thread must almost be dead now.

Naw, I think you just threw another log on the fire with the "ensure" crack. ;)

But how about a SLIGHT change of tack... I get that a beer or two at lunch is not going to be illegal or get you drunk. I would not fear for my life if I was hunting near someone that had had a couple beer an hour ago.... But I WAS wondering to what degree a couple beers might actually influence your shooting. I mean, hitting that saucer sized target at 350 or more yards isn't always the easiest thing in the world to do normally. Would you have a couple beers before a shooting competition and expect to do as well as if you had had no alcohol? I'm not making an argument here, I'm just wondering what you believe is true for YOU.

[pdfish]

Naw, I think you just threw another log on the fire with the "ensure" crack. ;)

But how about a SLIGHT change of tack... I get that a beer or two at lunch is not going to be illegal or get you drunk. I would not fear for my life if I was hunting near someone that had had a couple beer an hour ago.... But I WAS wondering to what degree a couple beers might actually influence your shooting. I mean, hitting that saucer sized target at 350 or more yards isn't always the easiest thing in the world to do normally. Would you have a couple beers before a shooting competition and expect to do as well as if you had had no alcohol? I'm not making an argument here, I'm just wondering what you believe is true for YOU.

I know I'm a lot better golfer after a couple of brews, why wouldn't the same apply for shooting? :D

[Okotokian]

I know I'm a lot better golfer after a couple of brews, why wouldn't the same apply for shooting? :D

I KNOW I am too! The darn scorecard just doesn't back me up! :lol:

[pdfish]

I KNOW I am too! The darn scorecard just doesn't back me up! :lol:

Funny enough, my best round ever, I was hung to the nines when I teed off and hammered again by the 7th hole...smooth 67.

[bullpike]

Naw, I think you just threw another log on the fire with the "ensure" crack. ;)

But how about a SLIGHT change of tack... I get that a beer or two at lunch is not going to be illegal or get you drunk. I would not fear for my life if I was hunting near someone that had had a couple beer an hour ago.... But I WAS wondering to what degree a couple beers might actually influence your shooting. I mean, hitting that saucer sized target at 350 or more yards isn't always the easiest thing in the world to do normally. Would you have a couple beers before a shooting competition and expect to do as well as if you had had no alcohol? I'm not making an argument here, I'm just wondering what you believe is true for YOU.

Good question Okotokian! I don't know the answer to that question because I haven't tried it. I would like to try under controlled conditions all the way up to a dozen beer. Purely for informational purposes.:) It would be an interesting experiment. But seriously, its obvious that alcohol and guns don't mix, the point is that there is nothing wrong with "moderation" (again, a couple with lunch, not all day)and nobody will convince me otherwise. I don't get blasted and go hunting although a few vodkas at the end of the day never killed anybody. I have never had enough to drink with lunch and nor can I imagine how much alcohol it would take for someone to forget what a firearm can do.

[TheClash]

Good question Okotokian! I don't know the answer to that question because I haven't tried it. I would like to try under controlled conditions all the way up to a dozen beer. Purely for informational purposes.:) It would be an interesting experiment. But seriously, its obvious that alcohol and guns don't mix, the point is that there is nothing wrong with "moderation" (again, a couple with lunch, not all day)and nobody will convince me otherwise. I don't get blasted and go hunting although a few vodkas at the end of the day never killed anybody. I have never had enough to drink with lunch and nor can I imagine how much alcohol it would take for someone to forget what a firearm can do.

i can understand that....but in an inherently already dangerous situation why would you purposely add another element of danger? is it worth the added risk to enjoy those beers? i am not saying it is or it isn't..i am curious to your thoughts on it. i am sure i could drive fine with one eye closed all the time...but why would i? why would i purposely put myself in a more dangerous situation than i am already in while driving?....want to make it clear i am not judging....i have never drank so i am clueless (may be obvious to some haha) when it comes to alcohol and it's effects...

[stinkynuts]

what i do in my tree stand is my bussnes last i read a human body can process about 1 beer per hour and as long as my blood alcohol level is below .008 i will do what ever i want while in my stand or on the lake thats my veiw on that for all you Saints Out There :tongue2:

[MrDave]

All I can do is laugh at the reasoning here. Do any of the people who are basically saying that alcohol consumption WHILE in the act of hunting is okay, realize the image you are showing the youth who read this forum? Sure you may not be "drunk" but your judgment isn't the same. If you deny that then so be it. As for my experience in the bush, I grew up having the life most of the members dream of, elk out my living room window, fishing when I wanted, and literally living on the edge of crown land. I can hit a hardhat dead on at 250 yards and never will take a risky shot. I also am smart enough to know that guns and alcohol should not be mixed and personally feel people arguing that it is okay are arguing to show that they are simply stupid. Have a nice day.:tongue2:

[albertadave]

To me guns and beer go together like spaghetti and meatballs.

But seriously, its obvious that alcohol and guns don't mix,
Anyone else getting confused?

[bullpike]

Funny I know lots of people who fail to see the point of hunting no matter how hard I try and explain it.

.

[hal53]

All I can do is laugh at the reasoning here. Do any of the people who are basically saying that alcohol consumption WHILE in the act of hunting is okay, realize the image you are showing the youth who read this forum? Sure you may not be "drunk" but your judgment isn't the same. If you deny that then so be it. As for my experience in the bush, I grew up having the life most of the members dream of, elk out my living room window, fishing when I wanted, and literally living on the edge of crown land. I can hit a hardhat dead on at 250 yards and never will take a risky shot. I also am smart enough to know that guns and alcohol should not be mixed and personally feel people arguing that it is okay are arguing to show that they are simply stupid. Have a nice day.:tongue2:
to quote above....this sound reasoning "should" end the post...apparently he hunts all WMU's after a few.....wow!!!!:lol::lol:

[uglyelk]

so much for no "brawl"...BTW....all you guys that drink at lunch....could you post the WMU's you hunt in please?????Hal every road you drive on and wmu you hunt has people consuming booze, you've never seen an empty in the bush or the side or on the road of the road? ...what are you going to do stay home?

http://www.asp.stnet.pl/emoty/img/restroom1.gif

Guns are great for guarding the still, damn dog is always too busy running deer.:wave:

[hal53]

to quote above....this sound reasoning "should" end the post...apparently he hunts all WMU's after a few.....wow!!!!:lol::lol:
oops!!...not you Dave....a couple posts above...sorry

[bullpike]

Anyone else getting confused?

In moderation. Dave any further conversations you wish to have with me do it through pm. Cause I have had bout enough of you!

[prospector]

so much for no "brawl"...BTW....all you guys that drink at lunch....could you post the WMU's you hunt in please?????

You looking to stop by some camps for a drink? You're always welcome at ours.

I don't think you need to worry much about the guys involved with this forum, there are thousands more out there that don't get involved in discussions like this because they're too busy drinkin... and hunting, not playing on their computers.

[prospector]

`huntin isn't what it use to be for me, in fact I rarely mix "hunting" with guns these days, that would interfere with the beer naps in the middle of the day

Don`t you hate it when a spry and sober "hunting" partner comes back to camp in the middle of the afternoon with his trophy, a small effort to get me off the cot in front of the airtight... some people!

As far as alcohol and guns, no, not a good mix either.

:lol:
Agreed. Hunting camp is no place for guns, they don't mix well with beer.

[stinkynuts]

AGAIN I AM TIRED OF ALL THE SO CALLED SAINTS ON HERE THAT WOULD LEAD US ALL TO BELIVE THEY HAVE NOT BRONKEN THE LAW EVER IN THERE WHOLE LIVES I CALL BSSSSSSS IF NO ONE EVER BREAKS THE LAW WHY ARE THE GAME WARDENS SO BUSY I SHURE DONT READ MUCH ABOUT IMPARED WHILE HUNT AS I DO POACHING HUNTING FROM THE ROAD ETC :innocent::tongue2:

[Gordoats26]

This thread cracks me up is there realy that many of you tight A$ses out there like come on what business is it of yours if i go back to camp at lunch have a beer or 2 Eat some grub then maybe catch an hours rest an head back out. If thats all it takes to affect ones ability to Use a gun Safely You shouldnt be using one in the first place. Dont we have better things to worry about then what somone does in there Camp as long as your not Stupid about it theres no reason a guy cant enjoy a Beer or Two during a day of hunting as long as its done Responsibly

[stinkynuts]

This thread cracks me up is there realy that many of you tight A$ses out there like come on what business is it of yours if i go back to camp at lunch have a beer or 2 Eat some grub then maybe catch an hours rest an head back out. If thats all it takes to affect ones ability to Use a gun Safely You shouldnt be using one in the first place. Dont we have better things to worry about then what somone does in there Camp as long as your not Stupid about it theres no reason a guy cant enjoy a Beer or Two during a day of hunting as long as its done Responsibly

X2 Very Well Put

[RancheroMan]

I understand there are a few posters that are saying why even take the chance with one beer anytime during the day, even 1 beer can impair your judgment.

The problem is that is not an appropriate "line in the sand". There are tons of things that will impair your judgment while hunting and are generally accepted as "allowable".

How about high altitude sheep and goat hunting? The thinner air must impair your judgment, even if by a little bit.

Maybe you didn't get enough sleep the night before; tired/groggy.

Have a cold and taking some over the counter medication.

Perhaps a little dehydrated from that long walk from camp without enough breaks.

I think this is why people are bringing up the .08 argument. Society (the laws and government) have said that we can still safely operate potentially dangerous equipment with a certain amount of impairment.

[AB2506]

IMO alcohol has no place in hunting or handling firearms, operating a quad, driving etc. I vote for not drinking in camp either. But that's me. If you can control yourself and not be impaired the next morning, have a drink or two. Don't perpetuate the non-hunting public's view that hunters are drunken slobs.

[Deer Hunter]

Sigh.........hey, I looked it up too, and the dictionary defintion of the word impaired doesn't use the word drunk, so I guess they're not the same thing.

im⋅paired   /ɪmˈpɛərd/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [im-paird] Show IPA
–adjective 1. weakened, diminished, or damaged: impaired hearing; to rebuild an impaired bridge.
2. functioning poorly or inadequately: Consumption of alcohol results in an impaired driver.
3. deficient or incompetent (usually prec. by an adverb or noun): morally impaired; sports-impaired.

Here is another definition I looked up:
do-good·er (dgdr)
n.
A naive idealist who supports philanthropic or humanitarian causes or reforms.

I don't think having a beer in camp at lunch is worth getting all upset about. To label everyone who has a beer, impaired or drunk or dangerous is wrong. Kinda jumping to conclusions there.
I'm hearing impaired... does that mean I should stay home? Probably.

[pdfish]

Here is another definition I looked up:
do-good·er (dgdr)
n.
A naive idealist who supports philanthropic or humanitarian causes or reforms.

I don't think having a beer in camp at lunch is worth getting all upset about. To label everyone who has a beer, impaired or drunk or dangerous is wrong. Kinda jumping to conclusions there.
I'm hearing impaired... does that mean I should stay home? Probably.

You're darn right you should stay home. You'll never hear me yell "duck, there's a big one right behind you!":D

[nicholal]

Knew a guy that killed these 2. He took alot of shots but finnally got them down

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=462

:lol::lol:

Sorry Trev just got this one and had to share

AL

[jtoews80]

OK, fine. As I said, it likely will not harm anything, but there are no positive results from it either and in the event that it gets carried away there could be serious issues. It isn't like I ever planned on getting loaded back in the day when I came stumbling in at 3 AM, most nights a guy goes out for 1 or 2, except on his birthday or after a month or two of working without a break.

C'mon, everybody is saying it's only 1 or 2, but how often does it go to far?? AS I recall, it happens pretty easily. It just isn't worth the risk. AS was mentioned, there are other things that impair ones reactions and judgement. Why add to these factors. If you want to drink in camp after, lock up you gun and have at'er. If you need to drink at lunch, eat a big meal and enjoy your hunt after, but figure out if you "need" it. And that is a maultifaceted question: do you really need it and do you have a problem.

IN my mind there is drinking & there is hunting, not both. I've seen enough tissue damage from firearms to know that I NEVER ever want to see that happen to a human or have to try to save a causualty from a gunshot wound. It would be a losing battle for the most part.

JT.

[albertadave]

Here is another definition I looked up:
do-good·er (dgdr)
n.
A naive idealist who supports philanthropic or humanitarian causes or reforms.

I don't think having a beer in camp at lunch is worth getting all upset about. To label everyone who has a beer, impaired or drunk or dangerous is wrong. Kinda jumping to conclusions there.
I'm hearing impaired... does that mean I should stay home? Probably.
Please show me where in this thread I've gotten upset. Please show me where I've labelled anyone. In the post that you quoted here I specifically say that drunk and impaired are not the same. What conclusions have I jumped to? That alcohol causes varying degrees of impairment? Sorry, but I didn't come up with that, science did. Please show where I've preached or tried to dictate someone else's actions. I don't agree with drinking while hunting, if that makes me a do-gooder, then so be it. Carry on with the childish bashing and name calling fellas.

[Steamer08]

OK, fine. As I said, it likely will not harm anything, but there are no positive results from it either and in the event that it gets carried away there could be serious issues. It isn't like I ever planned on getting loaded back in the day when I came stumbling in at 3 AM, most nights a guy goes out for 1 or 2, except on his birthday or after a month or two of working without a break.

C'mon, everybody is saying it's only 1 or 2, but how often does it go to far?? AS I recall, it happens pretty easily. It just isn't worth the risk. AS was mentioned, there are other things that impair ones reactions and judgement. Why add to these factors. If you want to drink in camp after, lock up you gun and have at'er. If you need to drink at lunch, eat a big meal and enjoy your hunt after, but figure out if you "need" it. And that is a maultifaceted question: do you really need it and do you have a problem.

IN my mind there is drinking & there is hunting, not both. I've seen enough tissue damage from firearms to know that I NEVER ever want to see that happen to a human or have to try to save a causualty from a gunshot wound. It would be a losing battle for the most part.

JT.

It's not a question of needing it. By putting it that way you are saying that whoever has a beer at lunch is an alcoholic. I LIKE BEER. I LIKE THE TASTE OF MY CERTAIN BRAND OF BEER. Do you drink soda at lunch? If you do why? Why not just have water. Do you like the taste? Same goes for beer as any soda in respects to as to why I like one at lunch. As for the non-drikers who seem to think that the only reason to drink a beer would be for the buzz, please pull your heads out so you can at least breath. I have not found a non alcoholic beer that I enjoy and I do not enjoy all types of beer. I prefer Canadian and have a hard time stomaching a Pil. Just me though. Jeez Dave, you had me excited when you said you were done with this thread. What a bummer.:lol:

[Take Em!]

I understand there are a few posters that are saying why even take the chance with one beer anytime during the day, even 1 beer can impair your judgment.

The problem is that is not an appropriate "line in the sand". There are tons of things that will impair your judgment while hunting and are generally accepted as "allowable".

How about high altitude sheep and goat hunting? The thinner air must impair your judgment, even if by a little bit.

Maybe you didn't get enough sleep the night before; tired/groggy.

Have a cold and taking some over the counter medication.

Perhaps a little dehydrated from that long walk from camp without enough breaks.

I think this is why people are bringing up the .08 argument. Society (the laws and government) have said that we can still safely operate potentially dangerous equipment with a certain amount of impairment.

x 1million. Also, for the "you don't need it arguement" that is the worst arguement ever! Most of the things we have in life we don't need! Like the other guy said.. you don't need a pop at lunch either.. pop consumption can lead to diabetes.. diabetes leads to symptoms such as fatigue, irritability, and blurred vision. Do I want a guy out there who is grumpy, can't see well and is possibly tired shooting? Come on guys, you can make an argument for any point if you really want to. The simple truth is that extensive studies have proven that a beer at lunch is not going to impair you to any significant point that you are in any danger! That is it.. simple.. plain... easy to understand.. you might not get why someone drinks a beer, you might not agree with drinking a beer, but they are no danger to you. I honestly don't know where all the people who answered this post come from? I have been hunting for 20 years.. have hunted with easily 100 different people and I can't remember any of them turning a single beer down at lunch... this whole discussion is ridiculous. I unfortunately can't drink anymore but I will tell you right now that my hunting buddies whether they be friends or family are going to probably have the occasional beer at lunch. We are primarily in WMU140/130 so please.. don't show up in October and November.. I prefer having less hunters around anyways!

[TheClash]

It's not a question of needing it. By putting it that way you are saying that whoever has a beer at lunch is an alcoholic. I LIKE BEER. I LIKE THE TASTE OF MY CERTAIN BRAND OF BEER. Do you drink soda at lunch? If you do why? Why not just have water. Do you like the taste? Same goes for beer as any soda in respects to as to why I like one at lunch. As for the non-drikers who seem to think that the only reason to drink a beer would be for the buzz, please pull your heads out so you can at least breath. I have not found a non alcoholic beer that I enjoy and I do not enjoy all types of beer. I prefer Canadian and have a hard time stomaching a Pil. Just me though. Jeez Dave, you had me excited when you said you were done with this thread. What a bummer.:lol:

that was me that posed the question..and if you will read my post..you will see i said i figured there were 2 reasons..either you want to feel the effects of alcohol or you like the taste....you have answered the 2nd half of my query by saying it isn't for the buzz but that you like the taste of your brand...for that i thank you for your answer...as for your tone......this is a discussion..no need to get haughty about it. i never said you were and evil doer for wanting your beer, but that as a non drinker i do not understand it...your answer has helped.

[moosemad]

Maybe you should have added to your poll another option:
Do you smoke pot while/during/after etc hunting Far as I'm concerned this is just as dangerous as drinking, seen a bit of it over the years, needless to say I no longer hunt with those people.

[Redfrog]

Now we're making some progress:D

How many of you drink while reading these types of threads?:innocent:

[Double Shovel]

There should be another option for the vote that says
"Or is this the dumbest thread ever?"
This is ridiculous.I vote for drinking all the time because Dean told me too.I don't drink at all.We had a blast reading this stupid thread.

[sparky660]

There should be another option for the vote that says
"Or is this the dumbest thread ever?"
This is ridiculous.I vote for drinking all the time because Dean told me too.I don't drink at all.We had a blast reading this stupid thread.


You think it is the stupidest thread ever yet you post and keep it alive. That is some sound logic. Your remarks are more ridiculous than this thread. It is a legitimate question with alot of great remarks that, for the most part, have been civil. If you think it is stupid do the rest of us a favor and post in another topic.

[Okotokian]

You think it is the stupidest thread ever yet you post and keep it alive.

No, YOU kept it alive Einstein!!!! :mad3:

No, wait.... I just did. :scared::lol:

My bad

[Double Shovel]

IT WORKED! I got attacked,I knew it would be easy.

[Cal]

I am not against having a beer at lunch but I personaly I would think twice about it. Anyone here try'd riding a motorbike after even one or two beers? I have done it at will probably do it again but that being said I can see a huge difference in how smooth I am. When I used to BMX it was the same deal, just little mistakes here and there that I would naver have made with zero boose in me. Just because you can legaly drive a car with a few beers in you does not make attempting certain other activities a good idea.

[sparky660]

IT WORKED! I got attacked,I knew it would be easy.


Attacked, LMAO, don't think so. Just shedding some light on your lack of respect to the originator of this thread. NOt much to do in Cadogan I guess.

[rem338win]

I believe that the discussion is perfectly valid. I have seen more than too many slob hunters that pound way too many back in a day of hunting. I think that if you need to pound back a six pack in a day of hunting than you might want to consider hitting a bar with Big Buck Hunter for the night and leave the fields to the more responsible individuals that don't need malt to enjoy the outdoors. If you like to have a beer with your sandwich at lunch, and hit the sleeping back for a siesta before the evening hunt, your not the problem are you?
If being accountable for your actions while handling a potentialy dangerous tool isn't ok with you, hit the road and don't let the boot hit you in the arse on your way there.
Would you drink 6 and run a chainsaw? Would you run a lathe? Would you trust the bus driver to drive your kids to school after 6? If you answered yes to any of the above, grab your new coloring book and crayons on the way out the door. Oh, and the crayons are non-toxic, so ya, you can eat them:rolleyes: