Grayboe/McMillan stock

[Remtac]

Anyone own one of these and do you like it ? They have the same shape as the A5 McMillan . I just oredered one from red hawk rifle , price was right at 319$

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/06/27/mcmillian-announces-greyboe-new-mid-teir-stock-company/

[Remtac]

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They look good and made of Fiberglass also

[TUFFBUFF]

These stocks look decent, but sure seem heavy for the sporter ones, not sure if 4lbs is average on a tactical stock?

[Remtac]

These stocks look decent, but sure seem heavy for the sporter ones, not sure if 4lbs is average on a tactical stock?

It's a difference of 7ounce from this stock to the A5 McMillan , I doubt you will notice that on a long range rig

[mgvande]

I think McMillan is overpriced. I drank the kool aid and bought an Edge. Sent it back twice to get repaired. They had foam in behind the recoil lug.

[Remtac]

I think McMillan is overpriced. I drank the kool aid and bought an Edge. Sent it back twice to get repaired. They had foam in behind the recoil lug.

That's why I spent the 1200$ on a accuracy international and spent 319$ on the grayboe/McMillan. McMillan's do look great ,nice design

[Pathfinder76]

I think McMillan is overpriced. I drank the kool aid and bought an Edge. Sent it back twice to get repaired. They had foam in behind the recoil lug.

Could you please explain that? I have owned a bunch of McMillans and as far as I know they don't use "foam".

[dogslayer403]

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They look good and made of Fiberglass also

Looks like it might be a good option for a good price let us know how it works out
I also feel mcmillan is overpriced this could be good business for them

[mgvande]

Could you please explain that? I have owned a bunch of McMillans and as far as I know they don't use "foam".

I can't explain why there was foam. But there was. If you feel ambitious go take apart your gun with the McMillan on it and poke a knife in behind your lug area. It was the ultralight Edge. It's now after two repairs totally epoxy in the receiver area. I couldn't get my money back just warrante. It lasted about 10 rounds after each repair.

[BigJon]

The filler material on EDGE and there standard stocks is soft but it's never been an issue in the few I've owned and currently own. Never paid that much attention to the lug recess anyways as I usually am pouring epoxy in there with a couple hours of opening the box. I know of a handful or two mcmillan stocks that have never seen a bedding a job and are doing just fine after many, many rounds fired.

[Remtac]

Looks like it might be a good option for a good price let us know how it works out
I also feel mcmillan is overpriced this could be good business for them

Sure will

[mgvande]

The filler material on EDGE and there standard stocks is soft but it's never been an issue in the few I've owned and currently own. Never paid that much attention to the lug recess anyways as I usually am pouring epoxy in there with a couple hours of opening the box. I know of a handful or two mcmillan stocks that have never seen a bedding a job and are doing just fine after many, many rounds fired.

I wish I had that kinda experience with the product. Mine is fine now and sporting full length bedding. Would I buy again, absolutely not. If you pay that much for a stock it better be bullet proof. That is why I come to the realization and the ultralight hunting guys will too. Lighter is weaker.

[Pathfinder76]

I can't explain why there was foam. But there was. If you feel ambitious go take apart your gun with the McMillan on it and poke a knife in behind your lug area. It was the ultralight Edge. It's now after two repairs totally epoxy in the receiver area. I couldn't get my money back just warrante. It lasted about 10 rounds after each repair.

I have bedded many of them. That included "poking around" in the recoil lug area. What cartridge is the rifle that sits in it chambered for?

[Pathfinder76]

I wish I had that kinda experience with the product. Mine is fine now and sporting full length bedding. Would I buy again, absolutely not. If you pay that much for a stock it better be bullet proof. That is why I come to the realization and the ultralight hunting guys will too. Lighter is weaker.

Well duh.

my latest McMillan has an EDGE shell and standard fill. No weakness there.

[Pathfinder76]

Here is the stock. I took this photo two minutes ago. You will notice two lighter circles top and bottom in the picture. Those are epoxy covered aluminum cross bolts. I'm pretty sure $600 doesn't make something bullet proof, and I'm also sure I've never seen one crack or break

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l433/chuck_nelson/C5E97466-38D9-4D2B-BA3F-71276BB62B21_zpsxml3qlvz.jpg (http://s330.photobucket.com/user/chuck_nelson/media/C5E97466-38D9-4D2B-BA3F-71276BB62B21_zpsxml3qlvz.jpg.html)

[mgvande]

Well duh.

my latest McMillan has an EDGE shell and standard fill. No weakness there.

It's for a tikka. Just mentioned I had a problem with the stock I bought. I'm happy you are having good luck with the stocks you have purchased.

[Pathfinder76]

The lighter ones will have limitations. The fill is not as strong as say, sniper filled stocks. But there is a trade off there. You may have received a lemon. But that is not indicative of the quality they have produced for years.

[elkhunter11]

Here is the stock. I took this photo two minutes ago. You will notice two lighter circles top and bottom in the picture. Those are epoxy covered aluminum cross bolts. I'm pretty sure $600 doesn't make something bullet proof, and I'm also sure I've never seen one crack or break

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l433/chuck_nelson/C5E97466-38D9-4D2B-BA3F-71276BB62B21_zpsxml3qlvz.jpg (http://s330.photobucket.com/user/chuck_nelson/media/C5E97466-38D9-4D2B-BA3F-71276BB62B21_zpsxml3qlvz.jpg.html)

I don't know of any other stock manufacturer that offers a lifetime guarantee against breakage. I doubt that many people take advantage of that guarantee.

https://mcmillanusa.com/stocks-warranty/

100% Guaranteed Satisfaction
Every McMillan Fiberglass Stock carries an “Unconditional Lifetime Warranty” against cracking, warping, splitting, breaking or becoming unserviceable for any reason. If a problem occurs, the stock will be repaired, replaced or the purchase price will be refunded at our option. This applies to items we actually manufacture and not to options or accessories we purchase from other manufacturers.

[Pathfinder76]

The guarantee is used. I was told the numbers returned vs the numbers produced in a year. Very few were returned and many of the few were in pretty serious wrecks.

[mgvande]

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They look good and made of Fiberglass also

These stocks are 1/2 price of the McMillan stocks and still have the 100% warranty that McMillan offers. I would be interested in how this works out. As these are slightly heavier they probably are less prone to defects.

[elkhunter11]

These stocks are 1/2 price of the McMillan stocks and still have the 100% warranty that McMillan offers. I would be interested in how this works out. As these are slightly heavier they probably are less prone to defects.

Since these stocks are made using a different process than the one that McMillan has used for many years, I would not make that assumption.

[Remtac]

Since these stocks are made using a different process than the one that McMillan has used for many years, I would not make that assumption.

Well if McMillan is involved , I can bet it will be better quality then anything you will get at your local cabelas or whatever gun store in town. So for 319$ US had to get one

[mgvande]

Well if McMillan is involved , I can bet it will be better quality then anything you will get at your local cabelas or whatever gun store in town. So for 319$ US had to get one

I think you will be pleased since this is a long range tactical type stock. Did you have to use an importer or is it cheap enough it's straight through the mail?

[Robmcleod82]

It's too bad the hunting stock is so heavy 2.8 pounds.

[Remtac]

I think you will be pleased since this is a long range tactical type stock. Did you have to use an importer or is it cheap enough it's straight through the mail?

Red hawk rifles in Colorado in the mail , anything under 500$ no issues, barrel and rifle is sent out to get cut down and threaded for a brake and cerakoted olive drab and the stock is also olive drab

[Pathfinder76]

It's too bad the hunting stock is so heavy 2.8 pounds.

Yea, that's a bunch.

[Twisted Canuck]

So I'm curious if anyone else has tried the Bell and Carlson stocks? I bought a used rifle with a sporter on it, liked it but sold that rifle to a friend, then recently put a tactical on my .300 WM. I've never had a Mcmillan to compare it to, but for the price point of $399 CDN to your door from Prophet River, seems like another alternative. Just wondering if anyone has used both and can give a fair comparison?

http://store.prophetriver.com/stocks/remington/

[elkhunter11]

So I'm curious if anyone else has tried the Bell and Carlson stocks? I bought a used rifle with a sporter on it, liked it but sold that rifle to a friend, then recently put a tactical on my .300 WM. I've never had a Mcmillan to compare it to, but for the price point of $399 CDN to your door from Prophet River, seems like another alternative. Just wondering if anyone has used both and can give a fair comparison?

http://store.prophetriver.com/stocks/remington/


I have one on a Tikka T-3 Varmint, and for that purpose I like it. Irregardless of the aluminum bedding block, I still skim bedded it.

[Robmcleod82]

I've had lots of bell and carlsons. They are ok the shell can be a little thin. Reasonable weights, no options other than Adl or bdl or factory dbm botom metal inlets as far as I know. Unless I want an aftermarket dbm for my money I can't justify the cost of McMillan on a sporter rifle I have a couple on heavy guns. The McMillan inlets tend to be better and you can specify barrel channel and cylinder length on order.

[dogslayer403]

I have a few bell and carlsons they are decent quality for the price id definatley own more, on another note my last 6.5x284 build i was at corlanes picking out a stock and had multiple brands and styles in my hands wildcat, mcmillan, hs precision and manners and after lots of fondling i ended up with the manners its not the lightest of the bunch but the fit and feel was perfect for me although pricy. I will be trying one of the grayboe hybrid models it has caught my eye for a build im doing for the old man in 280 rem. Good excuse to test one out

[Remtac]

So I'm curious if anyone else has tried the Bell and Carlson stocks? I bought a used rifle with a sporter on it, liked it but sold that rifle to a friend, then recently put a tactical on my .300 WM. I've never had a Mcmillan to compare it to, but for the price point of $399 CDN to your door from Prophet River, seems like another alternative. Just wondering if anyone has used both and can give a fair comparison?

http://store.prophetriver.com/stocks/remington/

I have had the bell and Carlson , it's an aluminum bedding block they work fine. I'm sure the Grayboe McMillan is just as good or better . I love the look of the McMillan/grayboe

[jmc]

I have two McMillans (one A5 and one A3/A5) and I honestly don't see why people go so crazy over them. I have a couple Wildcat Vartac stocks made here in Alberta that I much prefer for a hunting/tactical setup. My Vartacs regularly outshoot my McMillans and seem to track a lot better too. If it is the style people are after then I think the option the op has found makes more sense than buying an overpriced stock from McMillan...just my opinion

[Remtac]

I have two McMillans (one A5 and one A3/A5) and I honestly don't see why people go so crazy over them. I have a couple Wildcat Vartac stocks made here in Alberta that I much prefer for a hunting/tactical setup. My Vartacs regularly outshoot my McMillans and seem to track a lot better too. If it is the style people are after then I think the option the op has found makes more sense than buying an overpriced stock from McMillan...just my opinion

It's probobly due to what's sitting inside the McMillan stock and what is sitting inside the Vartacs

[Remtac]

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[Remtac]

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[elkhunter11]

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One three shot group measuring .279" is a very good group, but it's not unheard of, and it's not benchrest quality.:)

[Remtac]

The stock came in the mail and it looks and feels well built .

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Love how it's flat at the bottom of the butt , perfect for a short picatinni rail for monopod

[mgvande]

Looks nice. I'm looking at the pics and I notice around the pillars some voids. Or that's what it looks like. I had that on my edge that I had issues with. Is that what I'm seeing? In hind sight with my edge I'm wondering if the paint was too thick and that created the stress to separate my stock at the pillars. It happened once on the front pillar forward to the lug area and the second time on the back pillar to the trigger inlet area. I hope you have good luck we now need a range report.

[Remtac]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CI97V9_3OM8

[Remtac]

Looks nice. I'm looking at the pics and I notice around the pillars some voids. Or that's what it looks like. I had that on my edge that I had issues with. Is that what I'm seeing? In hind sight with my edge I'm wondering if the paint was too thick and that created the stress to separate my stock at the pillars. It happened once on the front pillar forward to the lug area and the second time on the back pillar to the trigger inlet area. I hope you have good luck we now need a range report.

Those are not pillar voids , they are paint from the black webbing

[mgvande]

So have you shot it?

[Remtac]

Rifle stock back from air brush shop , I love it they did a great job .http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160923/67a1bbe8071a685a67481f5b58a24887.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160923/6a748246fd574e569ddde427af962f29.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160923/c9c221a342f10f0f12701d3eb2dffa05.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160923/b2569cc4b18ca6f87f098c9b91f59f40.jpg

[Remtac]

Barrel and action (olive drab) will be in tomorrow .