40 Mile water levels

[dutchpirate]

I've heard that 40 Mile is being drawn from heavily this week due to the insane temps, any one know how much?

[npauls]

It wouldnt surprise me.

Chin is dropping 6-8" per day and is very low. Im sure most of the southern reservoirs have dropping water levels due to higher than normal irrigation use.

[roy9525]

The waters dropping 4 inches per day and dropped between 3 and 4 feet already with more pumping to go unless a good general rain, have moved our docks twice already and some are high and dry

[Wes_G]

http://www.environment.alberta.ca/apps/basins/woreports.aspx?Basin=10&DataType=10

This link may be of some use to you in the future, but not right now. Everything for 40 mile in the last week is blank.

Forecast still says 30 or above for most days over the next 2 weeks. If this heat sticks around for the majority of the summer, none of the reservoirs will have any water left in them.

[kouleerunner]

Chin is drawn down every year, and for the life of me, I can't figure out why! St Mary's reservoir is full, Waterton reservoir is full, basically everything upstream of chin is full, downstream is full, and chin is basically drawn down.

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[Hunter4ever12]

Can't believe how much rattlesnake is down already,every time I go out its down another couple of feet. Least the fish are still biting.

[panko]

Power station on chin is why it's down they make more money, the further the water drops the faster the generator/ turbine turns making more money. What a shame.

[dutchpirate]

Thanks for the replies, all. We have family coming next week and want to take them to 40 for a day.

[thenaturalwoodsman]

Another week of Greedy Irrigation and all the reservoirs within the st.mary's district will have been robbed clean of water. Boated Chin today water is very low, 1.2 feet deep on the west side of the bridge. On my way down to the lake, a pivot's end gun was pounding water onto hiway #36, plus 33 degrees. You would think by the year 2017 that wasting water would be monitored a little closer than it is. Regulation for everything except water usage. More and more water rights are being given out all the time. :snapoutofit:

[bessiedog]

Water..... for agriculture.......

And you're mad cause they're using the water for what it's intended for....

[thenaturalwoodsman]

You bet Bessie. Watering the hiway.......

[sakogreywolf]

Another week of Greedy Irrigation and all the reservoirs within the st.mary's district will have been robbed clean of water. Boated Chin today water is very low, 1.2 feet deep on the west side of the bridge. On my way down to the lake, a pivot's end gun was pounding water onto hiway #36, plus 33 degrees. You would think by the year 2017 that wasting water would be monitored a little closer than it is. Regulation for everything except water usage. More and more water rights are being given out all the time. :snapoutofit:

Hmmmm.....I'd be thankful St Mary's even lets people in for recreational use. It may not always be this way going forward.

[roy9525]

With the amount of public money smrid gets it should go both ways a little more

[hillbillyreefer]

Another week of Greedy Irrigation and all the reservoirs within the st.mary's district will have been robbed clean of water. Boated Chin today water is very low, 1.2 feet deep on the west side of the bridge. On my way down to the lake, a pivot's end gun was pounding water onto hiway #36, plus 33 degrees. You would think by the year 2017 that wasting water would be monitored a little closer than it is. Regulation for everything except water usage. More and more water rights are being given out all the time. :snapoutofit:

Would those reservoirs exist if Ag didn't need them?
You make it sound as if the water hitting the highway destroys the water. In actuality it evaporates and falls again somewhere else.
Pivots are mechanical beasts, they break down occasionally, your world doesn't have malfunctions?
Yes there are regulations on water use.
Do you think S.AB would be as prosperous without irrigation?

I envy the prosperity of that area. Most of it directly related to, irrigation.

For all of western Canada and the western US I hope we get rain soon.

[sakogreywolf]

With the amount of public money smrid gets it should go both ways a little more

I agree, and so far it has been that way. But there is a very real threat to the whole district that is close by which could shut the whole thing down to recreation.

I will admit....comments like woodsmans get under my skin

[thenaturalwoodsman]

[QUOTE=hillbillyreefer;3583265]Would those reservoirs exist if Ag didn't need them?
You make it sound as if the water hitting the highway destroys the water. In actuality it evaporates and falls again somewhere else.
Pivots are mechanical beasts, they break down occasionally, your world doesn't have malfunctions?
Yes there are regulations on water use.
Do you think S.AB would be as prosperous without irrigation?

I envy the prosperity of that area. Most of it directly related to, irrigation.

For all of western Canada and the western US I hope we get rain soon.[/



I have worked in the irrigation industry I know what goes on. The industry needs help, it needs regulation. It ain't the mechanics of a pivot as to the reason why its pumping water on the hi-way, or the wasting of water from the leaky mainline, or watering a crop when there is a 90km/h wind.

PS. Reefer. Your logic on the evaporation of water off the hiway??? So since a coyote will eat a deer, should I just go shoot a deer and let the coyotes eat it where it falls?

[hillbillyreefer]

[QUOTE=hillbillyreefer;3583265]Would those reservoirs exist if Ag didn't need them?
You make it sound as if the water hitting the highway destroys the water. In actuality it evaporates and falls again somewhere else.
Pivots are mechanical beasts, they break down occasionally, your world doesn't have malfunctions?
Yes there are regulations on water use.
Do you think S.AB would be as prosperous without irrigation?

I envy the prosperity of that area. Most of it directly related to, irrigation.

For all of western Canada and the western US I hope we get rain soon.[/


I have worked in the irrigation industry I know what goes on. The industry needs help, it needs regulation. It ain't the mechanics of a pivot as to the reason why its pumping water on the hi-way, or the wasting of water from the leaky mainline, or watering a crop when there is a 90km/h wind.

PS. Reefer. Your logic on the evaporation of water off the hiway??? So since a coyote will eat a deer, should I just go shoot a deer and let the coyotes eat it where it falls?

Are irrigation farmers not told exactly when they can water, and given a window of opportunity that must be used or lost? It's difficult for the guys at the end of the line to water if the guys at the start of the system use all the water.

Not much anyone can do to stop the wind, maybe you have a good idea? Maybe instead of stopping the wind you could make it rain instead. Then we could rid ourselves of the reseviours and expense of upkeep, the jobs and investment related to them. Oh wait, you'd still want that for your recreation, another first world problem.

Water evaporating and you poaching a deer are equivalents?

That water is being used to produce FOOD. Imagine the price increases if irrigation yields were removed from the food supply in NA.

Some people just like to complain, it's a common first world problem, affluence allows stupidity to flourish.

[sakogreywolf]

[/QUOTE]I have worked in the irrigation industry I know what goes on. The industry needs help, it needs regulation. It ain't the mechanics of a pivot as to the reason why its pumping water on the hi-way, or the wasting of water from the leaky mainline, or watering a crop when there is a 90km/h wind.
[/QUOTE]

All it takes is dirt or algae to plug the lines that trigger the end gun shut offs to prevent them from working. For computerized panels.....if the ring turns it puts the degrees entered for end gun shut offs out of whack. Yes, mechanical issues can and do effect end gun shut offs.

No farmer will ever intentionally irrigate in 90km/hr winds.....it costs them money. It is simply not practical to for everything to stop and start on a dime.

While you may have worked in the irrigation industry, you must not have been involved in the practical workings of it.....

The simple fact is these reservoirs were built for irrigation use.....they are there to be drawn down from in years such as this. To expect any different is asnine.

[Wes_G]

Chin is drawn down every year, and for the life of me, I can't figure out why! St Mary's reservoir is full, Waterton reservoir is full, basically everything upstream of chin is full, downstream is full, and chin is basically drawn down.

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2 years ago Chin was very low by august long weekend and St Mary's was still quit high. By September Chin was full and St Mary's was the low one. I am sure there is a reason for it, but it definitely screws the fisheries up and is a big reason why the lake around here have tons of potential but will never reach it. This is agriculture country though and these lakes are here for irrigation first and foremost.

[eric2381]

Has anybody been out to Sherburne and saw the water levels there? Just curious.

[pikergolf]

Has anybody been out to Sherburne and saw the water levels there? Just curious.

Don't know about water levels, but Sherburne is closed to boating.

[eric2381]

Don't know about water levels, but Sherburne is closed to boating.

I heard that, but just curious if they're pulling water from it or if they have the reservoir isolated and pulling from 40 mile instead.

[thenaturalwoodsman]

Sherburne is normal water level. I am told there is a fella going to be running the gates and boating is in fact going to be allowed.

[eric2381]

Sherburne is normal water level. I am told there is a fella going to be running the gates and boating is in fact going to be allowed.

Thanks. Have you seen yourself, water leaving Sherburne down the outlet canal??

This is good news.

[eric2381]

I need to go for a drive out there to check it out when I'm home from work.

[npauls]

Sherburne is normal water level. I am told there is a fella going to be running the gates and boating is in fact going to be allowed.

Where did you hear this? Do you have his name?

Reason I ask is because we are in the middle of coming up with a solution to this situation with smrid and we havent been told about this as of yet.

[Dale S]

Where did you hear this? Do you have his name?

Reason I ask is because we are in the middle of coming up with a solution to this situation with smrid and we havent been told about this as of yet.

The boat launch is tenttatively open. The new sign says someone will be running the boat launch soon.

[eric2381]

That's good news. Thanks

[darrell f]

Drove down there today to find the concrete blocks across the road and a sign stating that the launch was closed July 28th. I guess I missed the fishing window!

[pikergolf]

Drove down there today to find the concrete blocks across the road and a sign stating that the launch was closed July 28th. I guess I missed the fishing window!

I had heard that, it really sucks. :(

[panko]

Does anyone else find this very strange that sherburne is closed?
Whats smrid doing they pick a lake in the middle of the system and close it cause there's no one checking for mussels?
For there information there's nobody checking anywhere?
It really boggles the mind with these Einsteins

[pikergolf]

Does anyone else find this very strange that sherburne is closed?
Whats smrid doing they pick a lake in the middle of the system and close it cause there's no one checking for mussels?
For there information there's nobody checking anywhere?
It really boggles the mind with these Einsteins

They are closing all access points on all their lakes, except manned campgrounds. I imagine once the campgrounds close so will lake access.

[panko]

There's nobody checking for anything anywhere very strange

[darrell f]

This is just strange. I will close a lake because I can? There is nobody checking anything. Was told by the chin host that he has no training and is just watching for non ab plates.. asks if they have been inspected and if the answer is yes they are good to go. If no he has the authority to prevent them from launching.

What about st Mary's. nobody at the launch. Just a sign that says to reports the host if you are from out of province. I bet lots of people drive to the lower campground before launching their boats.

This whole thing is just bs.

[panko]

Yes pick a lake in the middle of the system and shut it down.

[Newellknik]

In the agreement between the reigning govt and the EID , WID ,
Or the Bow Riiver System , your govt is in charge of protecting
your imagined rights . The dips are on it just like the PC s were .
not. And nobody will tell you to F off quicker
than the water royalty . They built those ditches , that water
is theirs , fisherman are just a pain in the ass ...and now a grave
danger .
In 2012 we fished every res . South of the Transcanada and
A couple north . Where there were legitimate launches not bad
but for most part , one garbage dump after another....pathetic .
Anglers do not police their behaviour nor their brethren.
There is no doubt that access at the present rate will only hasten
the disastrous invasive specie catastrophe .
Most users couldn't care less .
Reality sucks ....Join a fish and game club ! That won't help
anything but you'll have company crying in your beer .

Please note ....These are not lakes .....you have no rights ...
EMAIL SHANNON PHILLIPS .....Queen of the outdoors......
Please post her reply .

[Newellknik]

Over 20 years ago , Manitobans were warned about this imminent
disaster in the provinces water . Though the incoming govt at the time
( NDP ) promised this was top priority with them , the eradication of
this menace . The lack of any positives done , is a matter of public
record. The chance that the current power is going to somehow
protect our resources , is laughable.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/lake-winnipeg-zebra-mussels-lost-cause-eva-pip-1.3264283

What was it that smart guy use to say , oh ya " Enjoy the decline ...

[darrell f]

Must have struck a nerve here. Maybe someone had something to do with the plan to try sometiing even if it makes no sense. Heard before that the officials at SMRID had to try something and that it would anger a number of people.

Also heard it was an attempt to get rid of the squaters and the partiers from taber .and area. Look what has happened at the forks!

I agree that the garbage and such at the launch was disgusting at grassy. I was witness to one of the parties. Heard stories of 200 kids there at times. Thinking this was more the reason than any invasion by zebra mussels. I know that there is no way in hell I would ever camp there again.

Anyway, it is a sad state of affairs. Grassy is one of the best lakes in the south and will be missed. Maybe a reallly good trophy lake in the future and ice fishing should be phenomenal !!!


Out !!!

[panko]

So kids r partying so they close the boat ramp. That makes sense.
How bout we call the rcmp