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i love fishing
10-12-2017, 07:00 PM
Is tiger trout coming to southern Alberta?
Moonshine is now stocked with Tiger Trout.

huntsfurfish
10-12-2017, 07:10 PM
Bet they will.

bucksman
10-13-2017, 02:45 PM
I never saw any tiger trout on the 2017 stocking report

RavYak
10-14-2017, 12:36 PM
Probably once they get the legal bs changed and they are recognised as a species etc.

mgvande
10-14-2017, 04:30 PM
Are Tiger trout sterile?

Deep
10-14-2017, 05:59 PM
yes

johnny2
10-14-2017, 11:54 PM
I never saw any tiger trout on the 2017 stocking report

Sept 2017 8,000 more Tigers stocked in 4 lakes. My Wild Alberta stocking lists.

millsboy79
10-15-2017, 10:06 AM
So southern Alberta gets the shaft again.

TROLLER
10-15-2017, 10:49 AM
So southern Alberta gets the shaft again.

Don't see it as a big deal, the "fishermen" will keep the small tigers anyway so the wish and hope of them growing to size is just not in the cards. At least not yet anyway.

tallieho
10-15-2017, 11:04 AM
Until fishries gets there **** together,it will continue to be a slaughter.
Contact your MLA let them no your thoughts !!:angry3:

RavYak
10-15-2017, 04:53 PM
Until fishries gets there **** together,it will continue to be a slaughter.
Contact your MLA let them no your thoughts !!:angry3:

I was told by someone with inside information that supposedly the proper regulations should be in place next year.

I guess the ineptitude in this case is due to our provincial government only updating the Alberta Fisheries Act every 5 years. Not sure why that is the case(if the federal legislation only allows them to do it every 5 years, if our government has decided they can only be bothered to do it every 5 years or what) but it obviously should be changed so if you are going to speak with your MLA ask them why the provincial government only updates the Alberta Fisheries Act every 5 years and tell them that it needs to be changed so fisheries can do their job properly and update the Act when needed.

Mr Flyguy
10-15-2017, 06:14 PM
Don't see it as a big deal, the "fishermen" will keep the small tigers anyway so the wish and hope of them growing to size is just not in the cards. At least not yet anyway.

The "slaughter" of little tigers at Black Nugget (Tofield) is an example.

wind drift
10-15-2017, 08:40 PM
I was told by someone with inside information that supposedly the proper regulations should be in place next year.

I guess the ineptitude in this case is due to our provincial government only updating the Alberta Fisheries Act every 5 years. Not sure why that is the case(if the federal legislation only allows them to do it every 5 years, if our government has decided they can only be bothered to do it every 5 years or what) but it obviously should be changed so if you are going to speak with your MLA ask them why the provincial government only updates the Alberta Fisheries Act every 5 years and tell them that it needs to be changed so fisheries can do their job properly and update the Act when needed.

It’s been explained ad nauseuem already...it a a federal regulation. Canada has to do the amendment. Alberta can ask, but there’s a queue...a legislative waiting room, so to speak. Interestingly, no province can specifically regulate tiger trout yet. Manitoba is faking it. Saskatchewan worded their regs differently (all stocked trout) back in the day, so it’s not an issue. Alberta is being honest. If you want to point at ineptitude, ask DFO what their issue is with recognizing the tiger trout hybrid, when they have recognized splake for decades.

RavYak
10-15-2017, 11:00 PM
It’s been explained ad nauseuem already...it a a federal regulation. Canada has to do the amendment. Alberta can ask, but there’s a queue...a legislative waiting room, so to speak. Interestingly, no province can specifically regulate tiger trout yet. Manitoba is faking it. Saskatchewan worded their regs differently (all stocked trout) back in the day, so it’s not an issue. Alberta is being honest. If you want to point at ineptitude, ask DFO what their issue is with recognizing the tiger trout hybrid, when they have recognized splake for decades.

The individual who I was speaking with works for AEP and he is the one that told me the provincial government makes changes every 5 years. Why it is 5 years or how exactly it works I do not know but he made it clear our province makes the changes and it just hasn't happened yet because the last change happened just before the tiger trout were stocked. They did ask the feds to make the change since they wanted it to happen before the next 5 year change but the feds haven't been bothered to do it at least not yet.

It is easy to just blame the feds but for some reason we have this crappy system while other provinces do not. Time for our provincial government to step up and fix the system by creating provincial legislation and reducing the federal legislation to only what it needs to be. For an example of a better system dig into the way SK is set up, much better and they make changes every year and don't run into ridiculous cases and excuses like this tiger trout fiasco and the barbless hooks situation etc.

huntsfurfish
10-15-2017, 11:17 PM
It’s been explained ad nauseuem already...it a a federal regulation. Canada has to do the amendment. Alberta can ask, but there’s a queue...a legislative waiting room, so to speak. Interestingly, no province can specifically regulate tiger trout yet. Manitoba is faking it. Saskatchewan worded their regs differently (all stocked trout) back in the day, so it’s not an issue. Alberta is being honest. If you want to point at ineptitude, ask DFO what their issue is with recognizing the tiger trout hybrid, when they have recognized splake for decades.

Agree. They will fix it and restock.

But with all the whining about this. Starting to think that they should just stick to existing fish species. And work on native species in particular. Then they can really whine.

wind drift
10-16-2017, 06:18 AM
The individual who I was speaking with works for AEP and he is the one that told me the provincial government makes changes every 5 years. Why it is 5 years or how exactly it works I do not know but he made it clear our province makes the changes and it just hasn't happened yet because the last change happened just before the tiger trout were stocked. They did ask the feds to make the change since they wanted it to happen before the next 5 year change but the feds haven't been bothered to do it at least not yet.

It is easy to just blame the feds but for some reason we have this crappy system while other provinces do not. Time for our provincial government to step up and fix the system by creating provincial legislation and reducing the federal legislation to only what it needs to be. For an example of a better system dig into the way SK is set up, much better and they make changes every year and don't run into ridiculous cases and excuses like this tiger trout fiasco and the barbless hooks situation etc.

You were misinformed.

RavYak
10-16-2017, 12:39 PM
You were misinformed.

Then the people that work for AEP don't even know how their system works.

No wonder it is such a mess...

Sundancefisher
10-19-2017, 12:50 PM
I can't find any information on the net regarding longevity of tiger trout. Can anyone else find anything?

Brook trout can live to 6 years
Brown trout can live to 20 years

Tiger trout can live to ?? years.

Flieguy
10-19-2017, 01:01 PM
I can't find any information on the net regarding longevity of tiger trout. Can anyone else find anything?

Brook trout can live to 6 years
Brown trout can live to 20 years

Tiger trout can live to ?? years.

"Generally 5 to 6 years" According to this book

https://books.google.ca/books?id=tbNsi5-RhuUC&pg=PA268&lpg=PA268&dq=tiger+trout+lifespan&source=bl&ots=JKpvMIhrvk&sig=Yzy-eFjSBnJYCSp2_XaklUANsHk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjMstSmr_3WAhVnxlQKHTIWCfkQ6AEIjgEwFQ#v= onepage&q=tiger%20trout%20lifespan&f=false

Flieguy
10-19-2017, 01:04 PM
Kind of hoping they take the tiger trout route with Pine Coulee Reservoir since they've given up on the walleye

huntsfurfish
10-19-2017, 01:47 PM
Kind of hoping they take the tiger trout route with Pine Coulee Reservoir since they've given up on the walleye

Agree, would be nice to see tigers in the south. Might be a good place for them.

i love fishing
10-22-2017, 09:06 PM
pcr is actually one of the best lakes for them