Man captured on video unleashing racist tirade at Calgary grocery has been charged

[Weedy1]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-superstore-racist-tirade-charges-1.4463741

Authorities say his name will be released once he appears in court.

I bet he doesn't pull this crap in jail unless he wants his panties pulled up. Idiot.

[elk396]

Not a wise thing to do. That little tirade will follow him for the rest of his life, meaning the record. I'm sure his employer will be thrilled with him as well.

[Weedy1]

Not a wise thing to do. That little tirade will follow him for the rest of his life, meaning the record. I'm sure his employer will be thrilled with him as well.

Unless he's self employed I'm fairly confident "his employer" doesn't enter into the equation anymore. Unless of course he's employed by the Republicans.:)
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[CaberTosser]

Unless he's self employed I'm fairly confident "his employer" doesn't enter into the equation anymore. Unless of course he's employed by the Republicans.:)


I've noticed this trend, where people get fired for all manner of things that go viral online, some of which have jack squat to do with their jobs. I know many employers have policies regarding conduct but I think there have been many instances where the mob with the burning torches have made mountains out of molehills. Say for instance if a hunter gets vilified by anti's, is it right for them to be fired from their place of employment if their only sin was posting photos from a legal hunt? Sure there are ones who deserve some comeuppance, but its not always the case.

I've not watched the racist rant video in question and have no plans to that effect.

[223MB]

Ignorant a-hole with some serious anger issues. Hope he gets a decent punishment.

[Pixel Shooter]

Hope he gets everything coming to him. Idiot is right. Disgusting

[sns2]

I've noticed this trend, where people get fired for all manner of things that go viral online, some of which have jack squat to do with their jobs. I know many employers have policies regarding conduct but I think there have been many instances where the mob with the burning torches have made mountains out of molehills. Say for instance if a hunter gets vilified by anti's, is it right for them to be fired from their place of employment if their only sin was posting photos from a legal hunt? Sure there are ones who deserve some comeuppance, but its not always the case.

I've not watched the racist rant video in question and have no plans to that effect.

If you watched the video you would likely be okay with his employer firing him.

[CaberTosser]

If you watched the video you would likely be okay with his employer firing him.

You're probably right, my post was in no way in defense of his idiocy.

[Talking moose]

I've noticed this trend, where people get fired for all manner of things that go viral online, some of which have jack squat to do with their jobs. I know many employers have policies regarding conduct but I think there have been many instances where the mob with the burning torches have made mountains out of molehills. Say for instance if a hunter gets vilified by anti's, is it right for them to be fired from their place of employment if their only sin was posting photos from a legal hunt? Sure there are ones who deserve some comeuppance, but its not always the case.

I've not watched the racist rant video in question and have no plans to that effect.

If keeping someone gainfully employed can possibly damage business, why keep him? Business is just that, business. Right or wrong.

[Weedy1]

If keeping someone gainfully employed can possibly damage business, why keep him? Business is just that, business. Right or wrong.

If the gain outweighs the damage keep him, not everyone's perfect.

[Talking moose]

If the gain outweighs the damage keep him, not everyone's perfect.

Basically I said if the cons outweigh the pros, turf him.
You quote me and say if the pros outweigh the cons keep him.
Funny stuff.

[hilt134]

Eh as far as work goes if he's dealing with customers he'd be gone. If he doesn't deal with folks and he does good keep him. I don't really like racists but hey free speach and the repercussions therein.

On a side note I do hate this Court of public opinion thing we have been seeing. Fact is this guy is dead in the water now. Even once his charge is laid and he has paid the debt to society that video will stay. For all I know the guy has had some sort of bad luck recently and just got unlucky to have his breaking point filmed. Either way his judgement should be run through the court system and not on Facebook.

[1899b]

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[densa44]

Well he will have his day in court. It will be interesting if it goes to trial or if he just pleads out. I don't think going to trial would be a good idea, but that's just me.

Jail time is a very real possibility, we need to discourage this sort of thing.

[Newview01]

What is more important, free speech or people’s feelings?

I haven’t watched the video but barring the guy overtly threatening violence I don’t think there should be charges in relation to his words. Shoving etc obviously will result in charges.

[wags]

What is more important, free speech or people’s feelings?

I haven’t watched the video but barring the guy overtly threatening violence I don’t think there should be charges in relation to his words. Shoving etc obviously will result in charges.

Thank you. We know where you stand with your new views.

Even free speech has limits. We can start with slander.

[.257Weatherby]

I've noticed this trend, where people get fired for all manner of things that go viral online, some of which have jack squat to do with their jobs. I know many employers have policies regarding conduct but I think there have been many instances where the mob with the burning torches have made mountains out of molehills. Say for instance if a hunter gets vilified by anti's, is it right for them to be fired from their place of employment if their only sin was posting photos from a legal hunt? Sure there are ones who deserve some comeuppance, but its not always the case.

I've not watched the racist rant video in question and have no plans to that effect.

The idiot from Hydro One a few years back talking about that female news reporter is one case that went a little to far unless the seats where owned by his employer but that wasnt the case.

My employer can and does monitor social media and pictures taken and posted at work on company time (even lunch or coffee break) can and has ended up in a meeting with the lovely HR Gal.... theft of time is always a heavy rap to beat even in a Union Shop.
I have even been called to task about conversations about their Company Policies relating to travel with firearms of the transportation of DG.

The guy deserves his just reward and already being convicted in the public court of opinion in this case (my opinion) one simply doesnt push people physically, threaten to harm folks doing their job and if that Red Neck was so offended by the simple mistake of a double scanned item caused him so much aggravation he simply could have left the store and not paid for the items.

The Red Neck chose the other path and now faces that court of public opinion and the Courts of Law and again afterwards the court of pubic opinion after due process...the gift that keeps on giving...

And Wags, what I like about Free Speech is the ability in forums like this one can add peoples to their ignore lists...
The guy your speaking of joined my group not long ago.

Rob

[D.A.C]

Sjw much ......
The only thing I seen in the video was the cashier touched the man having a out burst. The man then says don't touch me and pushes the cashier...
I get it. Keep your hands to yourself. But charges over words ?
This must be Commie Canada?
Trudeau is turning all your brains into globalist thinking bots lol

Why has multiculturalism failed ?

[bobtodrick]

What is more important, free speech or people’s feelings?

I haven’t watched the video but barring the guy overtly threatening violence I don’t think there should be charges in relation to his words. Shoving etc obviously will result in charges.

I love this..." I haven't watched the video"...but this is what I think.
If you hanen't watched, who gives a rats rear end, what you think.
Try watching and making an informed decision instead of reacting to the reactions of a few.
You sound like a typical millennial.

[wags]

Sjw much ......
The only thing I seen in the video was the cashier touched the man having a out burst. The man then says don't touch me and pushes the cashier...
I get it. Keep your hands to yourself. But charges over words ?
This must be Commie Canada?
Trudeau is turning all your brains into globalist thinking bots lol

Why has multiculturalism failed ?

I wasn't a racist before Trudeau too.

[58thecat]

I wasn't a racist before Trudeau too.

Our government promotes and supports racism, how can you give to one culture and not another then say all are equal...someone gets upset which creates acts of racism.

Now back to the video....

[Newview01]

I love this..." I haven't watched the video"...but this is what I think.
If you hanen't watched, who gives a rats rear end, what you think.
Try watching and making an informed decision instead of reacting to the reactions of a few.
You sound like a typical millennial.

Well for one, you obviously have something to say about what I think.

And as soon as people start saying “you can’t say that” then all hope is lost.

Do we really want to start restricting what people say? Public humiliation will take care of boneheads like this guy, but as far as criminal charges - that is a slippery slope.

Any physical actions, or threats of violence, is a different case.

[trophybook]

Who cares? Do you understand more than 1 language? I do
I've heard lots of "racist" comments from people at stores that communicate in language other than English.
Sticks and stones may break my bones but OH words will kill me dead . Us north Americans are in a sad sad state.

[58thecat]

Who cares? Do you understand more than 1 language? I do
I've heard lots of "racist" comments from people at stores that communicate in language other than English.
Sticks and stones may break my bones but OH words will kill me dead . Us north Americans are in a sad sad state.

Thirty years ago a fist fight would have started, no one would have known nothing for the most part the next day other than a few stories, I said, you said, I touched you and you punched me in the nose...case closed.

I know we shouldn't promote nor support it but man it was over so quickly, win some , loose some.:)

[Imagehunter]

If one reacts like this to an everyday mistake made by a young kid that is already working on fixing the mistake it's obvious who the butt hurt snowflake is.

[Hillbilly 12]

Our government promotes and supports racism, how can you give to one culture and not another then say all are equal...someone gets upset which creates acts of racism.

Now back to the video....

We'll said!, the definition of equal must have changed for when I was taught what it meant. I'm not saying it's fine to start calling people ignorant names, but man get over it, we all get names called towards us, some just carry on. But there's the phone out recording it, didn't catch the very start only the end, Anymore it's just stupid, everything is a racist statement on the bigger scale and that's how our enemies are shutting us up on everything so they can continue to push their ways. They don't get their ways it's racism.

It's ok for a black to call another black a n.gger but when another color does it it's racist, to me the word would be bad no matter who says it. Just sayin.....

[wags]

If one reacts like this to an everyday mistake made by a young kid that is already working on fixing the mistake it's obvious who the butt hurt snowflake is.

Bingo!

[wags]

Our government promotes and supports racism, how can you give to one culture and not another then say all are equal...someone gets upset which creates acts of racism.

Now back to the video....

Do they? How's that?

They've gone around calling folks bomb making xxxx because they're not white? I missed that.

[Hillbilly 12]

Do they? How's that?

They've gone around calling folks bomb making xxxx because they're not white? I missed that.

Lol no they pay terrorists!!

[wags]

We'll said!, the definition of equal must have changed for when I was taught what it meant. I'm not saying it's fine to start calling people ignorant names, but man get over it, we all get names called towards us, some just carry on. But there's the phone out recording it, didn't catch the very start only the end, Anymore it's just stupid, everything is a racist statement on the bigger scale and that's how our enemies are shutting us up on everything so they can continue to push their ways. They don't get their ways it's racism.

It's ok for a black to call another black a n.gger but when another color does it it's racist, to me the word would be bad no matter who says it. Just sayin.....

There's a difference between being called a name and being labelled because of the color of your skin. This grocery shopper did more than call someone a name.

Unfortunately, racists aren't shutting up, they're getting louder.

[wags]

Lol no they pay terrorists!!

Haven't seen that yet, but i know you won't agree with that.

[Sundancefisher]

What is more important, free speech or people’s feelings?

I haven’t watched the video but barring the guy overtly threatening violence I don’t think there should be charges in relation to his words. Shoving etc obviously will result in charges.

A racist can be a racist and nothing we say will likely change their mental problems.

However likely what allowed charges is the assault was done as a result of his racist verbal attack and therefore a reasonable case linking his racism to the assault.

You can spew racist remarks on a forum.. penalty is a ban hammer. You say those things in person to someone... people walk away shaking their heads. You say those things and then hit someone. You up a creek and going to visit a room with an outside door lock.

[Sundancefisher]

We'll said!, the definition of equal must have changed for when I was taught what it meant. I'm not saying it's fine to start calling people ignorant names, but man get over it, we all get names called towards us, some just carry on. But there's the phone out recording it, didn't catch the very start only the end, Anymore it's just stupid, everything is a racist statement on the bigger scale and that's how our enemies are shutting us up on everything so they can continue to push their ways. They don't get their ways it's racism.

It's ok for a black to call another black a n.gger but when another color does it it's racist, to me the word would be bad no matter who says it. Just sayin.....

I don't think you understand cultural sensitivities as you have never experienced what you are proportimg to complain about not being equal.

Assuming you are a white middle aged male...the saying goes until you walk in someone else's shoes you can't begin to understand what it is like.

Some people say women should just tell a pervert to back off and move on. I for one am very happy women have been empowered to fight back and stand up to unwanted sexual advances.

You comment on name calling above showed you do need some real education on this matter.

[fitzy]

I don't think you understand cultural sensitivities as you have never experienced what you are proportimg to complain about not being equal.

Assuming you are a white middle aged male...the saying goes until you walk in someone else's shoes you can't begin to understand what it is like.

Some people say women should just tell a pervert to back off and move on. I for one am very happy women have been empowered to fight back and stand up to unwanted sexual advances.

You comment on name calling above showed you do need some real education on this matter.

Well said Sir.

[Selkirk]

There's a difference between being called a name and being labelled because of the color of your skin. This grocery shopper did more than call someone a name.

Unfortunately, racists aren't shutting up, they're getting louder.




There's a reason for that ^

Hardcore racists are getting fewer, and more desperate ... and in their desperation, they're getting louder.

Even the KKK is only a shadow of what it used to be.


Selkirk

[fitzy]

My question is what kind of man stands there watching that and does nothing?

As so many here love to whine about the downfall of society that's where I could see it happening. Not in drunk driving laws or a change in the gun laws but in a grown man behaving like that and the only vocal objector is a woman. No men moving to stop him.

I hope he gets what's coming to him.

[Selkirk]

My question is what kind of man stands there watching that and does nothing?

As so many here love to whine about the downfall of society that's where I could see it happening. Not in drunk driving laws or a change in the gun laws but in a grown man behaving like that and the only vocal objector is a woman. No men moving to stop him.

I hope he gets what's coming to him.

The 'Bystander Effect' has been around for thousands of years, going back even farther than the biblical story about The Good Samaritan.
It's not about society 'now', it's about society 'always' ... sadly, it's part of the human condition.

Bystander Effect; https://www.google.ca/search?source=hp&ei=JNpHWpHZOYvgjwPrw7vYCQ&q=bystander+effect&oq=+bystander+effect&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i67k1l3j0l7.6978.6978.0.9244.3.2.0.0.0.0.7 7.77.1.2.0....0...1c.2.64.psy-ab..1.2.166.6..35i39k1.90.BbTLBo6FG7k
Videos; https://www.google.ca/search?q=bystander+effect&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwie1u3-sLLYAhUQ_mMKHdFLCpgQ_AUICigB&biw=1681&bih=859


Selkirk

[58thecat]

Do they? How's that?

They've gone around calling folks bomb making xxxx because they're not white? I missed that.

Oh boy....not going into it....another thread scrap....maybe tomorrow...good luck eh:fighting0030:

[58thecat]

My question is what kind of man stands there watching that and does nothing?

As so many here love to whine about the downfall of society that's where I could see it happening. Not in drunk driving laws or a change in the gun laws but in a grown man behaving like that and the only vocal objector is a woman. No men moving to stop him.

I hope he gets what's coming to him.

If there were no cameras and you got a pat on the back, a can of beans upside the head would have silenced the clown but then you are the one doing the explaining as your carted off to cells...sad situation all around.

[does it ALL outdoors]

Throw the book at him! I have absolutely ZERO tolerance for that kind of stupidity

His lawyer will plead it was a momentary lapse in judgment and paint him as an otherwise outstanding model citizen with a job, wife and kids

How much ya wanna bet he only gets a suspended sentence? :angry3:

[bobtodrick]

Well for one, you obviously have something to say about what I think.

And as soon as people start saying “you can’t say that” then all hope is lost.

Do we really want to start restricting what people say? Public humiliation will take care of boneheads like this guy, but as far as criminal charges - that is a slippery slope.

Any physical actions, or threats of violence, is a different case.

Yup, when they start making uninformed, idiotic comments...I'm all for restricting them.
Of course, you kind of have history there, don't you?

[elk396]

My question is what kind of man stands there watching that and does nothing?

As so many here love to whine about the downfall of society that's where I could see it happening. Not in drunk driving laws or a change in the gun laws but in a grown man behaving like that and the only vocal objector is a woman. No men moving to stop him.

I hope he gets what's coming to him.

Did you see the good samaritan in Calgary who recently jumped in to help a fellow, they buried him about a week after the incident. I'm not saying I wouldn't jump in and help if some innocent guy or gal was getting pummelled, but just be aware that you need to be ready to die for your intervention, or with all the cameras on you now, be ready for a law suit to come your way. You need to make the right call based on the threat. If someone is throwing a verbal rant, let him/her go ahead and if it's on video, the authorities are going to take him to the cleaners. What are you as a bystander going to do? Throw a punch? Tackle the person, or jump in verbally and if he turns on you brace yourself? Really have to be careful when someone is going that nuts as to what his intentions are and how far he would go to make his point

[BuckCuller]

What actually made this man snap? Of coarse he must have a bit of resentment for other cultures but was there a build up to what happened?
What happened the the guy earlier in the day? Did his wife leave him did someone ding his new car? Did someone cut him off on the road and give him the bird?
There is probably more to this mans anger than just a cashier making a mistake and him having a disdain for interjecting mans race.
I can say I’ve had bad days and then add shopping on top of it and kaboom.
I hate shopping.
It doesn’t show what he said to the white cashier lady in the video it just picks up where the other man comes into the scene and gets shoved for grabbing the guy while trying to intervene.
He shouldn’t have said what he said and will be punished for it but the other guy probably shouldn’t have grabbed him and kept some distance.
You never touch someone while trying to de-escalate a situation.
Plus then after the shove the interjecting man tells the angry guy he’s lucky which sounded like some kind of threat and that’s when the angry guy calls him a bomb technician.
Things probably would have cooled off if buddy didn’t intervene and escalate the situation.

[260 Rem]

What actually made this man snap? Of coarse he must have a bit of resentment for other cultures but was there a build up to what happened?
What happened the the guy earlier in the day? Did his wife leave him did someone ding his new car? Did someone cut him off on the road and give him the bird?
There is probably more to this mans anger than just a cashier making a mistake and him having a disdain for interjecting mans race.
I can say I’ve had bad days and then add shopping on top of it and kaboom.
I hate shopping.
It doesn’t show what he said to the white cashier lady in the video it just picks up where the other man comes into the scene and gets shoved for grabbing the guy while trying to intervene.
He shouldn’t have said what he said and will be punished for it but the other guy probably shouldn’t have grabbed him and kept some distance.
You never touch someone while trying to de-escalate a situation.
Plus then after the shove the interjecting man tells the angry guy he’s lucky which sounded like some kind of threat and that’s when the angry guy calls him a bomb technician.
Things probably would have cooled off if buddy didn’t intervene and escalate the situation.
I would have placed myself between the gentleman and cashier and in my non confrontational way, would have asked if he was having a bad day that could explain his behavior. I’m confident that kind of intervention would have calmed him and given him the opportunity to vent.

[BuckCuller]

I would have placed myself between the gentleman and cashier and in my non confrontational way, would have asked if he was having a bad day that could explain his behavior. I’m confident that kind of intervention would have calmed him and given him the opportunity to vent.

I always start with are you OK sir and keep some distance. Then occupie his mind by asking him questions about what’s bothering him and try to understand why he’s so angry. If you don’t understand what’s going on it’s harder to control the situation.

[Sundancefisher]

The 'Bystander Effect' has been around for thousands of years, going back even farther than the biblical story about The Good Samaritan.
It's not about society 'now', it's about society 'always' ... sadly, it's part of the human condition.

Bystander Effect; https://www.google.ca/search?source=hp&ei=JNpHWpHZOYvgjwPrw7vYCQ&q=bystander+effect&oq=+bystander+effect&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i67k1l3j0l7.6978.6978.0.9244.3.2.0.0.0.0.7 7.77.1.2.0....0...1c.2.64.psy-ab..1.2.166.6..35i39k1.90.BbTLBo6FG7k
Videos; https://www.google.ca/search?q=bystander+effect&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwie1u3-sLLYAhUQ_mMKHdFLCpgQ_AUICigB&biw=1681&bih=859


Selkirk

One thing I advocate is getting involved when safe all the time. When not safe it is a tough call. Many good Samaritans have been killed in escalating situations. Some of them had kids. Difusing is always better.

I had a situation on a ctrain a few years back. A skin head 50 year old hardened nut job guy started threatening a Chinese guy. Probably had twice the weight on the Chinese guy who was probably in his 50's.

I did intervene by hitting the help button and engaging protective services and alerting the guy that authorities were called. He made his way to a door but wanted a piece of me. I stayed put and he got off and took off.

It could of gone bad. Had he been carrying a weapon it could of been a widow with kids.

Yes. I get involved. But even a Good Samaritan needs to ensure he/she has a safe place or know the risks and know how to fight.

[Sundancefisher]

What actually made this man snap? Of coarse he must have a bit of resentment for other cultures but was there a build up to what happened?
What happened the the guy earlier in the day? Did his wife leave him did someone ding his new car? Did someone cut him off on the road and give him the bird?
There is probably more to this mans anger than just a cashier making a mistake and him having a disdain for interjecting mans race.
I can say I’ve had bad days and then add shopping on top of it and kaboom.
I hate shopping.
It doesn’t show what he said to the white cashier lady in the video it just picks up where the other man comes into the scene and gets shoved for grabbing the guy while trying to intervene.
He shouldn’t have said what he said and will be punished for it but the other guy probably shouldn’t have grabbed him and kept some distance.
You never touch someone while trying to de-escalate a situation.
Plus then after the shove the interjecting man tells the angry guy he’s lucky which sounded like some kind of threat and that’s when the angry guy calls him a bomb technician.
Things probably would have cooled off if buddy didn’t intervene and escalate the situation.

One's bad day is no excuse for bad behaviour. If anyone takes there problems out on others they need professional help right away. Failure to deal with anger and stress can make some do bad things.

Those bad things can include actions that put you in prison.

[BuckCuller]

One's bad day is no excuse for bad behaviour. If anyone takes there problems out on others they need professional help right away. Failure to deal with anger and stress can make some do bad things.

Those bad things can include actions that put you in prison.

Yes I said he shouldn’t have done what he did.
My other point is that the other man should not have escalated the anger by grabbing him before the shove and then threatening him after the shove.
This did not help in any way.

[gitrdun]

That man is a bully, period. He picked on a cashier who's just trying to earn a living even at modest wages, and it escalated from there due to his behavior. I have no sympathy for that man.

[MyAlberta]

As a hunter, I know that I am liable if I worry, pursue, or harass wildlife out of season. In comparison, there is no season on fellow mankind. Those that violate, pay, and everyone knows, or is learning, that social media ups the penalty.

[Sundancefisher]

Yes I said he shouldn’t have done what he did.
My other point is that the other man should not have escalated the anger by grabbing him before the shove and then threatening him after the shove.
This did not help in any way.

Sorry. I did read it wrong. Yes...never escalate. Never ends well.

[TylerThomson]

What is more important, free speech or people’s feelings?

I haven’t watched the video but barring the guy overtly threatening violence I don’t think there should be charges in relation to his words. Shoving etc obviously will result in charges.

Why are people under the impression there is free speech in Canada? Free speech is a completely American concept. You can and will be held accountable for the things you say.

From Wikipedia.
Freedom of speech in Canada is not absolute; Section 1 of the Charter allows the government to pass laws that limit free expression so long as the limits are reasonable and can be justified in a free and democratic society.[1][2] This can often be the subject of controversy as some feel the conditions for reasonable justification are vague, granting the government an unreasonable amount of control over freedom of speech. Others feel that such restrictions are necessary in order to balance the fundamental freedoms of one party against those of another, and to otherwise limit political violence and tyranny of the majority. Hate speech (which refers to the advocacy and incitement of genocide or violence against a particular defined racial, ethnic, gender, sexual, religious or other identifiable group),[3][4] and obscenity (a broad term referring to literature that is unreasonable, dangerous or intensely inappropriate to society at large, such as child pornography or fraudulent medication intended to promote sexual virility),[5] are two examples that gain significant attention from the media and in public discourse.[

[V_1]

First of all there are only three human races on this planet. OK may be four as IIRC jury is still out about Polynesians. There is NO such RACE as middle-eastern or Eastern Indian, etc which were invented recently. As far as I'm concerned they are the same race as me or this guy in the video. Go check out books on biology if you don't believe me. So the 'racism' point is completely mute here as it is in 95%+ cases of 'racism' we hear about nowadays. Second, if this guy charged with assault or whatever - perfectly fine; if so called hate (speech?) charges are at play that would me whole different story as I strongly opposed silencing anyone, especially silencing morons of any kind and degree since it makes them 'silent morons' - the most dangerous variety. It also stinks to high heaven of late Soviet Union and alike. Yes I still remember the stench to unmistakably recognize it miles away. Third, if you are hurt by the mere fact there always will be someone hating you for who you are - grow up or find another planet.

[^v^Tinda wolf^v^]

It is what it is. At least the other customer wasn’t punched in a violent manor for touching the person in question.

https://youtu.be/oqwzuiSy9y0

[DiabeticKripple]

You can’t call someone a bomb making MF and hide behind free speech

[BuckCuller]

Why are people under the impression there is free speech in Canada? Free speech is a completely American concept. You can and will be held accountable for the things you say.

From Wikipedia.

As Canadians we do not have rights, everything is written so vague in our charter of rights that it can be construed any which way but Sunday. Anything can be over written by our government at any time for any reason.
We do not have the right to free speech.
We do not have the right of self preservation.
We do not have the right to personal property.
We do not have the right to hunt or fish.
We do not have the right to happiness or well being.
We do not have the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
And most of all we do not have a right to firearm ownership.
In Canada 🇨🇦 we in all truth have no rights.
That’s just the way it is.
And no matter how much we want rights we will never have them.

[therealj]

I imagine more than one person was interviewed by police before charges were laid, maybe this guy is just a racist bully ******* who's confrontational power trip was caught on camera and now he's paying for it. All the posts looking for any reason to excuse his behaviour are quite sad and likely because you see these tendencies in yourself, no rationale person sees it the way you do.

[58thecat]

You can’t call someone a bomb making MF and hide behind free speech

Especially when a can of beans just bounced off your head....not once but a few times....sleep it off, a little headache might change perspective on acceptable conduct in a public place.:)

[260 Rem]

I always start with are you OK sir and keep some distance. Then occupie his mind by asking him questions about what’s bothering him and try to understand why he’s so angry. If you don’t understand what’s going on it’s harder to control the situation.
Good point, I can see where a chap like the one in the video just wanted to talk over his issues in front of the counter. Chaps like that are generally pretty receptive to inquiries about their relationship with their wife or if someone dinged their car in the parking lot. Understanding those things are the behind their racist rant makes it so much easier to deal with. Might be good to ask if he has been drinking or on drugs...you know, dealing with drunks is pretty predictable, but druggie highs require a different strategy.

[BuckCuller]

Good point, I can see where a chap like the one in the video just wanted to talk over his issues in front of the counter. Chaps like that are generally pretty receptive to inquiries about their relationship with their wife or if someone dinged their car in the parking lot. Understanding those things are the behind their racist rant makes it so much easier to deal with. Might be good to ask if he has been drinking or on drugs...you know, dealing with drunks is pretty predictable, but druggie highs require a different strategy.

You never do know how any given situation is going to end but if you get a person talking no matter what their beliefs are you would be surprised how calm people can become. Just never put your hand on them. Never good.

[260 Rem]

No worries Buck, I am not offended ..just being a bit facetious. Truth is I have a low tolerance for bullies.

[BuckCuller]

I imagine more than one person was interviewed by police before charges were laid, maybe this guy is just a racist bully ******* who's confrontational power trip was caught on camera and now he's paying for it. All the posts looking for any reason to excuse his behaviour are quite sad and likely because you see these tendencies in yourself, no rationale person sees it the way you do.

Naw I’m not defending his actions just saying that there could have been other fuel in the fire other than just pure racism. But I don’t know the whole story as no one else here does either.
I am just saying if I’m in a situation such as this I would try to handle it differently then the bystander did. Sometimes when people calm down they realize they are acting a fool.

[BuckCuller]

No worries Buck, I am not offended ..just being a bit facetious. Truth is I have a low tolerance for bullies.

I don’t care for bullies but usually bullies are more taunting.
This guy had real anger/rage in his eyes which is why I think there may be other contributing factors.

[260 Rem]

If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, quacks like a duck ... it is a duck! No need to psychoanalyze the duck...I’d step in..

[BuckCuller]

If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, quacks like a duck ... it is a duck! No need to psychoanalyze the duck...I’d step in..

Well of coarse intervene but try not to escalate the problem.

[260 Rem]

Escalation would have been his choice.

[BuckCuller]

If your calm and cool about it I guess so. Not every situation can be defused.

[bobtodrick]

If your calm and cool about it I guess so. Not every situation can be defused.

Just wondering...if it was your kid at the till you'd be okay with no one stepping in?

[KinAlberta]

I’ve always admired the person that can turn to humour to draw down a tense situation. That seems to be the idea way to throw someone off their nasty game.

I’ve intervened only a few times in my life and on each occasion got the sense that I was on thin ice in terms of avoiding an escalation directed at me. Just been lucky.

[robson3954]

If one reacts like this to an everyday mistake made by a young kid that is already working on fixing the mistake it's obvious who the butt hurt snowflake is.

This. Somebody needs mental health counselling.

[BuckCuller]

Just wondering...if it was your kid at the till you'd be okay with no one stepping in?

You may have missed my post three posts above yours.
Or a couple other posts where I indicated intervening.
Thank you for your concern of my children.

[260 Rem]

What happens during an “intervention” is unpredictable. Kind of like stepping between a grizzly and his dinner where reasoning or humor is unlikely to deter a beast already ramped up to the “tip” point. I am all for “calm”, “unruffled” demeanor used judiciously with “the look”. (“The look” is hard to describe and does not come natural to many ...best communicated to me years ago by one of my Karate instructors after shaking off a moderately rough sparring session. “When the ref shouts ‘fight’ your eyes go dead cold and you smile ... makes me feel like I was poking a stick at a bear in a cage and all of a sudden the door swung open” :). )

[BuckCuller]

What happens during an “intervention” is unpredictable. Kind of like stepping between a grizzly and his dinner where reasoning or humor is unlikely to deter a beast already ramped up to the “tip” point. I am all for “calm”, “unruffled” demeanor used judiciously with “the look”. (“The look” is hard to describe and does not come natural to many ...best communicated to me years ago by one of my Karate instructors after shaking off a moderately rough sparring session. “When the ref shouts ‘fight’ your eyes go dead cold and you smile ... makes me feel like I was poking a stick at a bear in a cage and all of a sudden the door swung open” :). )

Yes some people need a good punch in the head but that guy is much bigger than me so I would try the negotiation route first. But I believe if he was to turn on me like a rabid dog I would be looking for that can of beans 58thecat was talking about.

[bobtodrick]

You may have missed my post three posts above yours.
Or a couple other posts where I indicated intervening.
Thank you for your concern of my children.

Sorry Buck, I did indeed miss a couple of your previous posts.

[BuckCuller]

Sorry Buck, I did indeed miss a couple of your previous posts.

In no means do I condone what the guy did it’s just some people have issue’s and I’m not into making matters worse.

[Peter Abelard]

If the gain outweighs the damage keep him, not everyone's perfect.

There are plenty of skilled individuals, particularly in this economy.

Moreso, someone with this much anger
has already shown their colors in the workplace.

[Peter Abelard]

Eh as far as work goes if he's dealing with customers he'd be gone. If he doesn't deal with folks and he does good keep him. I don't really like racists but hey free speach and the repercussions therein.


Shoving and insulting someone is free speech?

Really,
is this the hill you want to die on?

[Peter Abelard]

I don’t care for bullies but usually bullies are more taunting.
This guy had real anger/rage in his eyes which is why I think there may be other contributing factors.

So true. Honestly, this one feels like more like anger, than it does like racism.

But racism eclipses anger, and that is how this will be seen.

[Newview01]

So true. Honestly, this one feels like more like anger, than it does like racism.

But racism eclipses anger, and that is how this will be seen.

Yep.

Too bad.

So many sheep.

[densa44]

Until he appears in court, and we all know what the charges are this one can wait until the next episode.

Don't touch that dial.