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Ken07AOVette
01-02-2018, 10:35 AM
Had I cashed out 2 weeks ago I would be up ~$600, as of today I am down. The North American Dollar is rising.
I am fairly new to this, is it time to buy more Yankee bux or hang tight and wait for a drop?

skidderman
01-02-2018, 10:52 AM
If you watch a lot of financial predictions a few say they expect the Cdn dollar to drop to 65 or 70 cents. Their reason's are that the US is becoming stronger and as they do Canada becomes less & less competitive. Then there is the nafta question that likely won't go in our favour. With our current government leader's that seems like a given to me. I sometimes wonder if they are just guessing though.

Ken07AOVette
01-02-2018, 11:08 AM
If you watch a lot of financial predictions a few say they expect the Cdn dollar to drop to 65 or 70 cents. Their reason's are that the US is becoming stronger and as they do Canada becomes less & less competitive. Then there is the nafta question that likely won't go in our favour. With our current government leader's that seems like a given to me. I sometimes wonder if they are just guessing though.

That sounds like BUY to me, maybe 20g USD? And quick!

elkhunter11
01-02-2018, 11:26 AM
The fact is that since Trump was elected, the US markets are on the rise, because people have confidence in the US. There is no such confidence in Canada, so I expect our dollar to fall.

Twisted Canuck
01-02-2018, 11:40 AM
Close to $.80 at the moment, would not be a bad time to buy IMO. I see the CDN$ weakening in the coming year, based on the Tax reforms you see in the USA....and in Canada. Our government is tying an anchor around the necks of businesses, making it harder to compete. The USA economy is running on a very positive note. It should all be very educational, watching what happens in the coming year. I suspect the tax revenue shortfall in Canada will be met with more taxation, as it is working so good at driving investment capital out of the country.

Arty
01-02-2018, 12:53 PM
Buy when it's low, sell when it's high:

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(yes, that big ugly thing is the complete link)

USD is weakening; by chart it's got downward short-term momentum, and by fundamentals everyone's predicting inflation now from that tax thingy. At least until the Fed gets its arse in gear and causes rates to be hiked more by tapering their bond buying a bit more.

(Inflation = a weaker currency, which is why the Swiss Nat Bank has been deliberately printing money to buy overpriced US stocks by the bucketload. That makes the Swiss export industry more competitive.)

HoytCRX32
01-02-2018, 01:03 PM
What really sucks is that the Liberals want the dollar lower as it increases manufacturing jobs in the east...they screamed bloody murder saying Canada couldn't survive a dollar at par with the US. Harper and the Conservatives proved them wrong.

jstubbs
01-02-2018, 03:44 PM
Are you doing this as an investment? If so, why? You'd probably see better returns picking ten random stocks than from trying to beat the forex market on USD/CAD exchange...

If you're doing this just to have some USD on hand, carry on.

Arty
01-02-2018, 04:54 PM
Are you doing this as an investment? If so, why? You'd probably see better returns picking ten random stocks than from trying to beat the forex market on USD/CAD exchange...

If you're doing this just to have some USD on hand, carry on.

Except for the fact that you should be taking advantage of extreme positions in any asset.

That means, when USD/CAD is at par it is truly a rare thing, and you really should move free cash (if any) to your USD accounts. Likewise, when it's at 1.35 or taller, move free cash all to your CAD accounts. Right now, it's kinda sorta in the middle, but trending down to 1.20. Below 1.15 I'd certainly make the housekeeping move to USD.

In a relatively stable system like USD/CAD exchange, most everything reverts back to the mean at some point, and probably won't keep moving in one direction until the boat tips over. (Unlike the Bolivar and whatever passes for currency in ex-Rhodesia now). When it swings back after you've taken a position, it becomes a gift, so take it!

You have total margin available for trades calculated across all non-registered accounts, not just one or the other.

Ken07AOVette
01-02-2018, 05:19 PM
Are you doing this as an investment? If so, why? You'd probably see better returns picking ten random stocks than from trying to beat the forex market on USD/CAD exchange...

If you're doing this just to have some USD on hand, carry on.

Just travel money for going into the States.

wwbirds
01-02-2018, 07:02 PM
Balked on the second portion of the account set up when they wanted pictures of my bank account (not balance) and copy of my drivers license or passport. guess I am not a very trusting old fart but I am not going to make it easy for anyone to engage in identity theft by handing the information over the internet.

Big Thumper
01-02-2018, 07:18 PM
Are you doing this as an investment? If so, why? You'd probably see better returns picking ten random stocks than from trying to beat the forex market on USD/CAD exchange...

If you're doing this just to have some USD on hand, carry on.

Forex is a sum zero game. Hard to be on the winning side enough to make it pay when speculating. Especially when much of the competition is well informed. (Not to imply this is why the OP is doing this)

Arty
01-02-2018, 07:20 PM
Balked on the second portion of the account set up when they wanted pictures of my bank account (not balance) and copy of my drivers license or passport. guess I am not a very trusting old fart but I am not going to make it easy for anyone to engage in identity theft by handing the information over the internet.

Identity theft ain't the main problem.

It's the fact that federal revenue departments of every major country will want you to pay up for any profits based on cryto-currencies (even though they strongly deny those are currencies at all).

So the exchanges are going to great lengths to ensure they don't wind up with THEIR asses in a sling. They will sell you and all your identity info out to the gub'mint at the drop of a hat. That's why it's such a dumb idea to use your hard-earned after-tax savings to speculate in crypto-currencies, especially for small amounts.

79ford
01-02-2018, 07:29 PM
Close to $.80 at the moment, would not be a bad time to buy IMO. I see the CDN$ weakening in the coming year, based on the Tax reforms you see in the USA....and in Canada. Our government is tying an anchor around the necks of businesses, making it harder to compete. The USA economy is running on a very positive note. It should all be very educational, watching what happens in the coming year. I suspect the tax revenue shortfall in Canada will be met with more taxation, as it is working so good at driving investment capital out of the country.



Canada has been clocking in(annualized) 3-4+% gdp reports while trump just handed out tax cuts that will cost some 1.7 trillion dollars per year or something obscene. The united states will run over a trillion dollar deficit every year for the forseeable future now which is like canada running a 100+ billion dollar budget deficit ........every year

Us corporate taxes are atill higher than canadian taxes too. I think Trump is on debt ceiling raise number two in less than six months..... they had to raise the debt ceiling to fund the hurricane relief and that money has run out already now they are looking to add trillions more in debt to pay for tax cuts that havent been offset.