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Bushmaster
01-16-2019, 12:28 PM
https://i.imgur.com/9gMvmHm.jpg

bat119
01-16-2019, 12:39 PM
I was thinking catapults and parachutes

ORV
01-16-2019, 01:10 PM
I was thinking catapults and parachutes

or a ladder?

ReconWilly
01-16-2019, 03:18 PM
What if the wall is not to keep people out,but in fact will be used to make sure that no one can escape WHEN the $#!+ Hits the fan?

More political double speak.

Be careful what you vote for or your vote will be used as a weapon against you.

Legal weed? , Hahaha all you got increased regulations and laws!

HoytCRX32
01-16-2019, 03:55 PM
What if the wall is not to keep people out,but in fact will be used to make sure that no one can escape WHEN the $#!+ Hits the fan?

More political double speak.

Be careful what you vote for or your vote will be used as a weapon against you.

Legal weed? , Hahaha all you got increased regulations and laws!

...And taxes!!!

Smoky buck
01-16-2019, 04:12 PM
Buddy was showing me a while back there is a gofundme page to collect $ for Trumps wall and an anti Trump group put up a gofundme page for ladders opposing the wall

Mexico won’t need to build a thing the far left in the US will do it for them :sHa_sarcasticlol:

skidderman
01-16-2019, 04:27 PM
Or go under. Seems easier to me.

270person
01-16-2019, 05:06 PM
Buddy was showing me a while back there is a gofundme page to collect $ for Trumps wall and an anti Trump group put up a gofundme page for ladders opposing the wall

Mexico won’t need to build a thing the far left in the US will do it for them :sHa_sarcasticlol:



Or...the far right could wake up and realize it's a really dumb idea and complete waste of taxpayers money that won't change a thing.

RBI
01-16-2019, 05:06 PM
Buddy was showing me a while back there is a gofundme page to collect $ for Trumps wall and an anti Trump group put up a gofundme page for ladders opposing the wall

Mexico won’t need to build a thing the far left in the US will do it for them :sHa_sarcasticlol:

Heard the same thing... Trump's fund was at around 500K and the Ladder fund was at about 60 K .

:thinking-006:

Smoky buck
01-16-2019, 05:22 PM
Or...the far right could wake up and realize it's a really dumb idea and complete waste of taxpayers money that won't change a thing.

Don’t know enough of their situation with the Mexico border so can’t comment if it’s a waste or not. But I have heard enough to know the present system with the Mexico border is not working

One thing I do know is the extremes from both left and right are often idiots

sjr
01-16-2019, 08:26 PM
I was thinking catapults and parachutes

Be great skeet or field shooting practice for the USMC

sjr
01-16-2019, 08:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9d1Wof7S4o

barbless
01-16-2019, 08:34 PM
Maybe just cut a hole and walk through :thinking-006:

ghostguy6
01-16-2019, 09:07 PM
The government will just hire a bunch of Mexicans to build the wall anyway, they will build known week spots or gates were they can cross.

KGB
01-16-2019, 11:14 PM
When Israel built the wall with Gaza, the illegal crossing almost disappeared. Yes, they are digging tunnels and trying to get into Israel thru the sea border but those crossings are easy to detect. The wall helped tremendously.

does it ALL outdoors
01-17-2019, 01:00 AM
The wall helped tremendously.

I concur, just like protecting your house or vehicles there's only so much you can do. You want to weed out the easy ones and big caravans from crossing.

How does everyone have it all figured out when details haven't been released yet? :thinking-006: I'm pretty sure when they design it, long ladders were takin into consideration. And tunneling is for smuggling Weed, Meth and Heroine, WAY more profit and the U.S.B.P already have a dedicated tunnel
team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leuVjBC1Hj4

We need a wall too to stop the influx of ILLEGAL (not irregular, ILLEGAL) economic migrant boarder jumpers coming north from the States, invited via a Tweet by you know who :angry3:

Big Grey Wolf
01-17-2019, 10:31 AM
It could be a good business opportunity for Mexicans, Renting aluminum ladders at the wall. You would have to move your business location quite
often though but profit when caravan comes through would be enormous $$.

Oldan Grumpi
01-17-2019, 11:32 AM
The U.S. - Mexico border is roughly as long as the distance from Hay River, NWT to San Diego, CA., and longer than from Vancouver to Thunder Bay if you prefer to think east-west.

Think about that for a minute.

The West Bank Barrier is roughly the distance from Hay River NWT to Peace River, AB., or Calgary to Regina.

This whole notion of a wall is about the "right" contractors (and their political benefactors) doing very, very nicely at the expense of the U.S. taxpayers.

There's no way in hell anybody is going to seal off a border that long, wall or no wall, and I don't care how high it is.

Bigwoodsman
01-17-2019, 11:38 AM
I wonder if the Chinese had this problem when they built their wall?:thinking-006:

Once the wall is built, will it be visible from outer space?:thinking-006:

BW

Oldan Grumpi
01-17-2019, 11:43 AM
I wonder if the Chinese had this problem when they built their wall?:thinking-006:

Once the wall is built, will it be visible from outer space?:thinking-006:

BW

I suppose anything's possible if you have enough rocks, enough slave labor, and enough soldiers to stand shoulder to shoulder along the top of it. :)

China did, apparently. One thing they were never short of was people; they could make new ones faster than they could work the old ones to death.

Fish along
01-17-2019, 12:10 PM
What if they forget the wall and dig a ditch and fill with alligators lol.Yeah I know its off the wall.:sHa_sarcasticlol:

KGB
01-17-2019, 03:53 PM
What if they forget the wall and dig a ditch and fill with alligators lol.Yeah I know its off the wall.:sHa_sarcasticlol:

Hmm, I like the way you thinking, lol!
Barb wire fence with a mine field can help also....:sHa_shakeshout:

KGB
01-17-2019, 03:57 PM
The U.S. - Mexico border is roughly as long as the distance from Hay River, NWT to San Diego, CA., and longer than from Vancouver to Thunder Bay if you prefer to think east-west.

Think about that for a minute.

The West Bank Barrier is roughly the distance from Hay River NWT to Peace River, AB., or Calgary to Regina.

This whole notion of a wall is about the "right" contractors (and their political benefactors) doing very, very nicely at the expense of the U.S. taxpayers.

There's no way in hell anybody is going to seal off a border that long, wall or no wall, and I don't care how high it is.

So this is just a different scale. Israel a very small country with a limited budget but still were able to build the wall.
The US has way more money and resources at their disposal. Are you worried about the contractors making money building the fence? Are you worrying about the contractors getting rich building the pipeline in Canada too?
The wall might cost $5 bil, the illigal migration cost them $15 billions!

270person
01-17-2019, 07:02 PM
When Israel built the wall with Gaza, the illegal crossing almost disappeared. Yes, they are digging tunnels and trying to get into Israel thru the sea border but those crossings are easy to detect. The wall helped tremendously.



I wonder how many legal points of entry there are into Israel though. Being that the vast majority of illegal aliens and illegal drugs enter the U.S. through the many legal points of entry, and that more are leaving the U.S. than coming the other way, I'd still call this "proposed" wall, if it ever gets built, a colossal waste of money. Won't accomplish much other than to provide a very nice graffiti backdrop.

lannie
01-17-2019, 07:11 PM
So this is just a different scale. Israel a very small country with a limited budget but still were able to build the wall.
The US has way more money and resources at their disposal. Are you worried about the contractors making money building the fence? Are you worrying about the contractors getting rich building the pipeline in Canada too?
The wall might cost $5 bil, the illigal migration cost them $15 billions!

I wonder what it currently costs per year to patrol the border? I would think the wall would pay for itself at some point.

58thecat
01-17-2019, 07:28 PM
Well then the hammerhead might talk to our clown and ......fill In The blanks........

Bushrat
01-17-2019, 07:44 PM
If Trump builds a wall, they will build a tunnel under America to Canada. Trudeau will offer to pay for it. Ten years later they will figure out it would have been cheaper to fly them in gratis........

barbless
01-17-2019, 08:06 PM
The Great Wall of China was not built on mostly flat American and Mexican kinda territory. Also had towers strategically placed at points of possible invasion. Berlin wall was still compromised at certain points. What a joke TRUMP. Nice try. Time to hit the big buck WHAMMY button on this one

KGB
01-17-2019, 08:13 PM
I wonder how many legal points of entry there are into Israel though. Being that the vast majority of illegal aliens and illegal drugs enter the U.S. through the many legal points of entry, and that more are leaving the U.S. than coming the other way, I'd still call this "proposed" wall, if it ever gets built, a colossal waste of money. Won't accomplish much other than to provide a very nice graffiti backdrop.

Why are you saying that the vast majority of illigal drugs and aliens entering thru the legal border crossings? What’s the point? Why would they risk of been detected by dogs, agents, X-ray machines etc if they can just swim across the River and get picked up by a truck and be gone! The cost of patrolling the wall would be by far less than then the unprotected territory. The wall can have sensors, cameras, night vision cameras, observation towers with guards and the scores of other equipment capable of detecting illigal activities.
Saying that the Mexicans can bring in the ladder is the same as saying that escaping from max security jail can be done the same way. :scared0018:

KGB
01-17-2019, 08:19 PM
The Great Wall of China was not built on mostly flat American and Mexican kinda territory. Also had towers strategically placed at points of possible invasion. Berlin wall was still compromised at certain points. What a joke TRUMP. Nice try. Time to hit the big buck WHAMMY button on this one

As much as I hate the Berlin Wall - it worked. Yes they were shooting at people who were trying to climb it. But without the wall half of eastern Germany would’ve escaped west( or perhaps even all of eastern Germany).
The cost of building the wall is a small fraction of what the illigal migration costs.
It is also making the crowd control much easier in case of a large caravans like the ones we saw recently. Take a look at what was going on in Europe when the hordes of migrants were storming across the borders! They simply couldn’t be stopped without use of deadly force(live ammo) that none of the countries were ready to deploy.

ReconWilly
01-17-2019, 10:31 PM
What if we built a wall?

https://youtu.be/RnM-zVwUM20

270person
01-17-2019, 10:36 PM
Why are you saying that the vast majority of illigal drugs and aliens entering thru the legal border crossings?



Because it's the truth maybe?

243plus
01-17-2019, 10:52 PM
The funny (or sad) part is, illegal immigration hit a high point in 2000, almost 20 years ago, and has been declining ever since then. The wall is a distraction, unnecessary, and a huge waste of money. But like anything else, if you want a distraction (like maybe an investigation), cause a controversy elsewhere. Yeah, I know, he ran on the wall but:


Mexico was going to pay for it
The GOP had all three levels of government controlled for 2 years, and now it's an emergency and crisis?

slough shark
01-18-2019, 11:17 AM
Building a wall outside of heavily traveled areas is a waste of time and money imho. I understand wanting to curb immigration and stop the flow of drugs but such a long border is likely a losing proposal to 100% cut it off. Stopping crossing in a shorter well patrolled area can work (see Israel) but j less they plan on spending billions in patrols I’m guessing it wouldn’t work.

6.5 shooter
01-18-2019, 11:39 AM
So? then we should not have fences in our back yards or lock our doors?

Or even better we can elect a failed drama teacher and invite everyone in and pretend it is a good idea while they walk out with all our furniture.....:snapoutofit:

KGB
01-18-2019, 11:44 AM
Because it's the truth maybe?

Got a prove? I couldn’t find any information that supports your claim.

KGB
01-18-2019, 12:10 PM
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huntsfurfish
01-18-2019, 12:20 PM
:party0052::party0051:

Red Bullets
01-18-2019, 02:25 PM
There is a better solution....

270person
01-18-2019, 07:08 PM
Got a prove? I couldn’t find any information that supports your claim.



Don't have access to Google?

Do you have any proof a wall will solve the problem? Assuming there even is a problem outside of paranoid bs on the part of you know who to keep his support base. Wasnt the original promise that Mexico would build it? Oops.

You might find this an interesting read. Sometimes it's best to be careful of what you wish for.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/05/17/the-law-of-unintended-consequences-georgias-immigration-law-backfires/#1fbad211492a

It would be fun buying a $10 head of lettuce or orange tho.

270person
01-18-2019, 07:12 PM
Building a wall outside of heavily traveled areas is a waste of time and money imho. I understand wanting to curb immigration and stop the flow of drugs but such a long border is likely a losing proposal to 100% cut it off. Stopping crossing in a shorter well patrolled area can work (see Israel) but j less they plan on spending billions in patrols I’m guessing it wouldn’t work.



Stopping the flow of drugs into the country is just a mirage thrown up by the dumb to appeal to the dumber. It will have some effect on illegal crossovers. Zero on the drug side.

KGB
01-18-2019, 08:17 PM
Don't have access to Google?

Do you have any proof a wall will solve the problem? Assuming there even is a problem outside of paranoid bs on the part of you know who to keep his support base. Wasnt the original promise that Mexico would build it? Oops.

You might find this an interesting read. Sometimes it's best to be careful of what you wish for.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/05/17/the-law-of-unintended-consequences-georgias-immigration-law-backfires/#1fbad211492a

It would be fun buying a $10 head of lettuce or orange tho.
I am not here to discuss with you American politics, you are getting confused! I’m not here to discuss if Trump is good or bad, right or wrong. We are talking about the wall. Just the wall. Since the wall was build in SAN Diego area, the illigal crossings went down by 90%. That is a fact. The wall will help in regulating the flow of migrants, it is way easier to control the trickle than a river. Too bad you don’t see it.

KGB
01-18-2019, 08:19 PM
Stopping the flow of drugs into the country is just a mirage thrown up by the dumb to appeal to the dumber. It will have some effect on illegal crossovers. Zero on the drug side.
Yep, mine field will work the best! Good luck with that!