Un freaking believable

[lead chucker]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/man-who-beheaded-passenger-on-greyhound-bus-granted-freedom/article33987610/

[Ken07AOVette]

Canada needs the death penalty

[buckbrush]

Canada needs the death penalty

X2

With an express lane for people like this.

[Bigwoodsman]

x2

with an express lane for people like this.

x3

bw

[Trochu]

Didn't this happen two years ago?

[BuckCuller]

God made me do it.

We are just lucky he didn’t cost us tax payers another 10 million.

Another sad day to be Canadian.

[CaberTosser]

Didn't this happen two years ago?

That was supervised release or something where he still had some semblance of oversight. Now he's just some missed meds away from taking another ride on the guillotine express. Dude should have swung from a public gallows already. Some things just aren't worth trying to fix....


When I saw the thread title I thought it was going to be this, where the offender is obviously similarly insane. The pic of it sure looks like he's eyeballing a gender transition:

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/man-serve-no-more-time-172746706.html

[grouse_hunter]

Didn't this happen two years ago?

Lol. The article is even dated 2017

[jungleboy]

THE CANADIAN PRESS
PUBLISHED FEBRUARY 10, 2017
UPDATED APRIL 14, 2017
A schizophrenic man who was found not criminally responsible for beheading and cannibalizing a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus was granted an absolute discharge Friday.

That means he will no longer be subject to any conditions or monitoring to ensure he takes his medication....

[buckbrush]

That was supervised release or something where he still had some semblance of oversight. Now he's just some missed meds away from taking another ride on the guillotine express. Dude should have swung from a public gallows already. Some things just aren't worth trying to fix....

That's just it. What is stopping this from happening again besides meds? Didn't this happen because he stopped taking his meds??

I really feel bad for the family of the victim. No justice.

Shake my head.

[jungleboy]

:shark:

[lead chucker]

I guess this is the road were headed in this country :angry3:

[warriorboy10]

Ah naaa!! Never even watched, just give em a few million $$!!

[CaberTosser]

I can guarantee that he's not sane, because if a sane person who had no dependants truly comprehended that they had committed such a vile act as what Vince Li did, they'd kill themselves out of guilt.

[lead chucker]

I can guarantee that he's not sane, because if a sane person who had no dependants truly comprehended that they had committed such a vile act as what Vince Li did, they'd kill themselves out of guilt.

I bet not, hes probably living better that the average taxpaying , hard working , law abiding citizen. This just shocks me that we've come to this.

[tri777]

Vince,

He walks free because big pharma said so.
How reassuring.

[barbless]

Send that POS to the gallows and I would be more than happy to pull the lever, pull the trigger, push the button, I would even use the big ax and put him on the chopping block. Screw all those bleeding heart people. Would save us all lots of money by putting them in a pine box and 6 feet under.

[BUSHRVN]

If he "falls off the wagon" again, all those involved in the decision to let him go totally free should also be put on the block and terminated by the survivors of the next victims family.

[1899b]

My cousin was a schizophrenic. I can relate to what this disease can do. He never asked for that disease. He’s dead now..

[Masterchief]

I don't believe he is an evil person, nor did he know what he was doing

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[35 whelen]

Same thing for the guy that killed those camp workers in fox creek ,but he is in a psychiatric ward for now,

[troutbug]

I don't believe he is an evil person, nor did he know what he was doing

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Cool he can come live with you!

[CaberTosser]

I don't believe he is an evil person, nor did he know what he was doing

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That may well be the case, but I think it’s the significant consensus that he should not be walking free after having demonstrated what he is capable of when he has an episode. He’s presently a walking experiment for the psychiatric and pharmaceutical communities, who will bear absolutely zero consequence if their experiment fails and he re-offends.

Imagine how this rubs the surviving friends and family of his victim.

[tri777]

I don't believe he is an evil person, nor did he know what he was doing

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I do not believe for one second Bears that kill/eat humans
are evil, but we still put them down for same said behaviours.
When people kinds act as animal kinds, just kindly remove from planet.
The result is a better, more evolved common sense way to be.

[Bushrat]

I don't believe he is an evil person, nor did he know what he was doing

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That's not the point. Point is whether he did or didn't know what he was doing fact is he did it and has established a track record that he is fully capable of doing it again. He very well could be a ticking time bomb. What if over time his mental condition worsens and his meds become ineffective or quits using them.

[Zip]

That's not the point. Point is whether he did or didn't know what he was doing fact is he did it and has established a track record that he is fully capable of doing it again. He very well could be a ticking time bomb. What if over time his mental condition worsens and his meds become ineffective or quits using them.

The sad part of your post is that your last line could come true more so than not.. it’s how meds work, enough is not always enough, sad world!
Zip

[ETOWNCANUCK]

If only the public didn’t get upset every time a cop shoots and kills someone.

[colroggal]

Having had some experience with schizophrenics, I can say most still need watching even when their committed to their meds and are balanced. The medication requirements can shift over time and what worked last week may not work next week. And it's not like taking the pill - if you miss one it is a big deal.

It's not like making the perfect Manhattan.

Executing people like this may be the 'kindest' thing. But studying the disease may lead to a more permanent solution. Most schizophrenics are harmless. The worst they do is get a little verbally abusive and may not shower or remember to take the trash out. Then there are guys like this.

Should they all be locked up? No. But those that show violent tendencies should never be free to roam.

Colin

[BuckCuller]

There should be a law stating that any professional that clears someone that has committed and has been convicted of a heinous murder or rape to return to public life even though they have been found to be criminally insane should be held liable for a prison sentence no less than three and up to the maximum of ten years in a federal prison if the released individual commits the same or similar offence under this statute.

[robson3954]

To the people that want him executed or locked up forever - if you have a heart attack or a seizure when you’re driving and you plow over a bunch of kids, should we execute you?

That said I don’t agree with full independence in somebody who’s mental health leads to those extremes. They should still have monthly mandatory check-ups.

[4extreme]

I believe people with health problems that impedes there ability to drive safely do loose their licence. as for a heart attack with no warning that can`t be foreseen.

[Jamie]

To the people that want him executed or locked up forever - if you have a heart attack or a seizure when you’re driving and you plow over a bunch of kids, should we execute you?

That said I don’t agree with full independence in somebody who’s mental health leads to those extremes. They should still have monthly mandatory check-ups.

If you had a seizure, chopped some ones head off and ate them, I would be 100% support you being killed. In fact, please do the same for me.

This guy should never have been allowed off the bus. First mistake made was him walking off the bus. Those cops should have killed him right there.

Not angry at this guy but a mad animal needs to be put down. This is a mad animal only being controlled by some little white pills now??? Give me a break.

[barbless]

To the people that want him executed or locked up forever - if you have a heart attack or a seizure when you’re driving and you plow over a bunch of kids, should we execute you?

That said I don’t agree with full independence in somebody who’s mental health leads to those extremes. They should still have monthly mandatory check-ups.

Hard to believe you could stick up for this guy. :mad3: Were you sitting in on the board or committee that set this POS back in the mainstream of life? Eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. No different than terrorists doing what they do. And yes we let them go free also. :sign0176: Turn them all into fertilizer

[buckbrush]

There should be a law stating that any professional that clears someone that has committed and has been convicted of a heinous murder or rape to return to public life even though they have been found to be criminally insane should be held liable for a prison sentence no less than three and up to the maximum of ten years in a federal prison if the released individual commits the same or similar offence under this statute.

The blood is on their hands. 100% they should be accountable. That would put an end to a majority of these releases.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

To the people that want him executed or locked up forever - if you have a heart attack or a seizure when you’re driving and you plow over a bunch of kids, should we execute you?

That said I don’t agree with full independence in somebody who’s mental health leads to those extremes. They should still have monthly mandatory check-ups.

There is a difference.

He willfully chose to not take his medication.

A sudden medical problem as you suggest is just that, something that is unexpected and probably not diagnosed.

He was.

So every doctor, nurse, psychiatrist, any medical professional failed leading up to this event.

A big reason for someone to not want to take his medicine, is because they don't like how it makes them feel.
The combination of any side effects of anything including his surroundings affects him in ways that you and I could never understand.

Maybe he was easily anxious in closed spaces.
Such as a bus.
Was that known?
We don't know.

If someone is found not guilty because he was in such a mental state to not be held responsible for his actions,
then the moment he chose to be should make him responsible.
Because that is a conscious decision to make.
At some point we decide what we are not or going to do, and often it's blinking a decision that probably wasn't given much thought.

And if your decision, makes you take off the head and eat parts of the body, then you get to be put down.

Simple.

My dog isn't overly aggressive, but if she got out and hurt or killed a child I would have her destroyed in a moment. No Hesitation .
And I love my dog.

Human Rights BS.
You forfeit yours when you take another life in this way.

[silver lab]

To the people that want him executed or locked up forever - if you have a heart attack or a seizure when you’re driving and you plow over a bunch of kids, should we execute you?

That said I don’t agree with full independence in somebody who’s mental health leads to those extremes. They should still have monthly mandatory check-ups.



This is the post of the year! Congratulations!!!
One thing for is certain is, it wasn’t your innocent, minding his own business son that had his head hacked off for no reason was it? I wonder if your thoughts would be different if it was?
Wow! No wonder Canada is in the state we are in.

[ganderblaster]

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[silver lab]

Wait, wait, wait..... I have this all wrong. If it was my son I would do everything in my power to have this guy released from jail...

[lead chucker]

If you had a seizure, chopped some ones head off and ate them, I would be 100% support you being killed. In fact, please do the same for me.

This guy should never have been allowed off the bus. First mistake made was him walking off the bus. Those cops should have killed him right there.

Not angry at this guy but a mad animal needs to be put down. This is a mad animal only being controlled by some little white pills now??? Give me a break.

I couldn't agree more. If this happened in Montana there would have been a different outcome.

[lead chucker]

Wait, wait, wait..... I have this all wrong. If it was my son I would do everything in my power to have this guy released from jail...

Yup.👍

[slough shark]

I do not believe for one second Bears that kill/eat humans
are evil, but we still put them down for same said behaviours.
When people kinds act as animal kinds, just kindly remove from planet.
The result is a better, more evolved common sense way to be.

Actually they don’t put down bears, the grizzly that killed my friend a few years ago in kananaskis didn’t even get tagged so they know which bear she is... not wanting to distract from the main theme of the thread. He should have remained institutionalized for the rest of his days, if he goes off the wagon he is an extreme risk and we dont monitor him anymore, not sure why anyone thinks this is a good idea. Not saying we need to lock him in solitary forever but release was a bad decision.

[Kos]

If you had a seizure, chopped some ones head off and ate them, I would be 100% support you being killed. In fact, please do the same for me.

This guy should never have been allowed off the bus. First mistake made was him walking off the bus. Those cops should have killed him right there.

Not angry at this guy but a mad animal needs to be put down. This is a mad animal only being controlled by some little white pills now??? Give me a break.

Obviously you didn't take your white pills today. You are dangerous and should be locked up because you want to kill a human being.