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dodger
06-13-2019, 05:39 PM
In the past it was a minor issue but know it is becoming a real pain in the backside. I am losing a large number of Walleye and Pike because of the hook straitening out on the jig. The jigs at Bass Pro I expected this and they did instantly. So I stuck with Northland jigs and they were ok until I stocked up on new jigs this year. These are now like the BP jigs, a piece of lead with soft wire sticking out of them. Complete garbage!

First off I have absolutely no time to make my own jigs as I have to scratch out time to just get on the water. Soooooo, what brand is out there that still actually use real quality hooks?



Thanks, Dodger

Dweb
06-13-2019, 05:56 PM
VMC jigs are great , very strong

dodger
06-13-2019, 06:20 PM
Thanks. I will see where I can buy them online.

Dodger

Bushleague
06-13-2019, 06:44 PM
I've never really thought about it, I use whatever is cheap and the only time I have one straighten out on me is when its snagged on a log or something. Just out of curiosity how strong of line are you using?

dodger
06-13-2019, 07:10 PM
I've never really thought about it, I use whatever is cheap and the only time I have one straighten out on me is when its snagged on a log or something. Just out of curiosity how strong of line are you using?

20/lb braid. It use to be the odd Pike doing the squirrelly dance would straighten the hook. But! This last weekend I had 3 Walleye straighten Northlands 1/2 oz little thumper jig

Dodger

dodger
06-13-2019, 07:14 PM
VMC jigs are great , very strong

Looking online and finding what I want in this brand is pretty much a no go. I can find one here or one there. Wanted to buy 20 at a time but no dice. Strange?

Dodger

7mmremmag
06-13-2019, 07:45 PM
I haven’t used them a lot yet but the quality from big sky flies and jigs is really good.

Bushleague
06-13-2019, 08:13 PM
20/lb braid. It use to be the odd Pike doing the squirrelly dance would straighten the hook. But! This last weekend I had 3 Walleye straighten Northlands 1/2 oz little thumper jig

Dodger

I think if you went down to 10 lb line, or simply loosened your drag it might fix your problem. I generally use 10 lb line for jigging, and despite using some absolute garbage jig heads the only time I've lost a fish in the manner you describe was on a couple occasions when I got too horsey with the handline while ice fishing.

Dweb
06-13-2019, 08:14 PM
Not sure where you can buy that many at once in bulk online , I usually just buy me a couple at a time at Canadian tire or cabelas.

mlee
06-13-2019, 08:23 PM
High Caliber Lures in Kerrobert SK.....been using their stuff for a bit now and super happy with the quality. They have a website and a few Facebook pages

NSR Fisher
06-13-2019, 11:17 PM
"Reel Bait" Tournament series flasher jigs (come with small willow blade hanging off bottom, you could easily add a #4 colorado though for some serious thump) They come with Gamagatsu hooks. Sticky sharp and very strong.

Aaron Weibe of Uncut Angling uses them for 40+ inch lake trout.

They're pricey but worth it.

Got some at Cabelas.

JD848
06-14-2019, 03:02 AM
I have over the years I bought 25000 jigs of all sizes and makes,i have straighten a few out when snagged, but very few on fish.

20LBSTest line is for 40lbs fish and up.6 or 8 lbs is the most I use for all my walleye fishing or trout I might go to 12 pound,but 8 lbs is good for all kinda fishing.1/2 oz jigs in real fast flowing or very deep water.

The reason your using heavy jigs is to make up for the heavy line your using.

I hooked all kinda large fish on 8 lbs line,up to 40 lbs lakers,30 inch plus walleyes which I lost count of 20 years ago.If your targeting pike you need a good leader plus setting your drag is a must,when a 50 inch pike wants to run you let them run.The jig or the line will break or you just rip the hook out of there jaw.

The trick when using a jig is to stay vertical and this is better done with good lighter line.

dodger
06-14-2019, 07:41 AM
I think if you went down to 10 lb line, or simply loosened your drag it might fix your problem. I generally use 10 lb line for jigging, and despite using some absolute garbage jig heads the only time I've lost a fish in the manner you describe was on a couple occasions when I got too horsey with the handline while ice fishing.

I don’t like 10/lb braid as it cuts into the Pike and my fingers pretty easy. The drag is good as I definitely do not horse them in. The jig hooks are giving away at the start of the bend.

Dodger.

dodger
06-14-2019, 07:45 AM
Not sure where you can buy that many at once in bulk online , I usually just buy me a couple at a time at Canadian tire or cabelas.

I see they are packaged in ones and two packs. I was just want to put 10-20 packs on my order. Even Amazon has 1-2 in stock so it’s not worth placing the order. But I’m still looking as I like the looks of these.

Dodger.

dodger
06-14-2019, 07:50 AM
[QUOTE=JD848;3989189]I have over the years I bought 25000 jigs of all sizes and makes,i have straighten a few out when snagged, but very few on fish.

20LBSTest line is for 40lbs fish and up.6 or 8 lbs is the most I use for all my walleye fishing or trout I might go to 12 pound,but 8 lbs is good for all kinda fishing.1/2 oz jigs in real fast flowing or very deep water.

The reason your using heavy jigs is to make up for the heavy line your using.

I hooked all kinda large fish on 8 lbs line,up to 40 lbs lakers,30 inch plus walleyes which I lost count of 20 years ago.If your targeting pike you need a good leader plus setting your drag is a must,when a 50 inch pike wants to run you let them run.The jig or the line will break or you just rip the hook out of there jaw. The trick when using a jig is to stay vertical and this is better done with good lighter line.[/QUOTE

I do plenty of vertical jigging but when there is a Walleye chop I want some weight to get down. The problem was this was “very minimal” in the past. I just found with the jigs I bought this spring this has become an issue. So I want to dump the Northlands brand and move onto a better product.

Thanks, Dodger

dodger
06-14-2019, 07:52 AM
"Reel Bait" Tournament series flasher jigs (come with small willow blade hanging off bottom, you could easily add a #4 colorado though for some serious thump) They come with Gamagatsu hooks. Sticky sharp and very strong.

Aaron Weibe of Uncut Angling uses them for 40+ inch lake trout.

They're pricey but worth it.

Got some at Cabelas.

I will check these out. Thanks!

Dodger.

Kim473
06-14-2019, 08:34 AM
Loosen your drag a little, and lighter line will solve your problem. If you can't net a 12 lb or slightly larger fish on 8 lb test your doing something wrong. Lighter line will help in getting more bites also.

They are catching 1000 lb Tuna on about 200 lb test line.

mlee
06-14-2019, 08:53 AM
https://highcaliberlures.ca
I'm telling you....you wont be disappointed.

mapleleafman3
06-14-2019, 09:30 AM
I have also noticed the weaker hooks on the Thumper Jigs. Its too bad cause i really like them and the extra action they have.

dodger
06-14-2019, 10:27 AM
https://highcaliberlures.ca
I'm telling you....you wont be disappointed.

I like the look of these. I’m going to order a few of these and possibly a few of the Reel Bait jigs for summer trials 😉

Thanks all !
Hmmm Tuna on a jig.

Dodger

mapleleafman3
06-14-2019, 10:50 AM
Reel Bait Jigs... that is the one I couldn't remember the name of. Saw them on Uncut Angling. The tournament series have a Gamakatsu Black Nickel hook.

https://reelbait.com/Category/tourn_1_4

walleyechaser
06-14-2019, 12:24 PM
Imo the best jigs and soft plastics are from BFISHN tackle. The h20 precision jig comes in many colours and sizes. Their Authentx moxi and pulse-r are the best walleye soft plastics

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dodger
06-14-2019, 02:10 PM
Imo the best jigs and soft plastics are from BFISHN tackle. The h20 precision jig comes in many colours and sizes. Their Authentx moxi and pulse-r are the best walleye soft plastics

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Thanks from me, not the wife so much :argue2:

Dodger

coyote_man
06-14-2019, 02:44 PM
Sourdough Bay Supplies in Medicine Hat has a great selection of quality jigheads.

Pioneer2
06-14-2019, 02:55 PM
It's hard to buy anything not made in China these days.Swedish,Norway or Japan /Magatzu hooks are all VG.

TROLLER
06-14-2019, 03:49 PM
Mizuno but only the ones with the red hook. Best going and lighten up on the line. I used to run 12lb braid but now run 8lb P line. No issues with larger fish just use a good light rod and reel. Way more fun and you will not be straightening your hooks

dodger
06-14-2019, 04:14 PM
Mizuno but only the ones with the red hook. Best going and lighten up on the line. I used to run 12lb braid but now run 8lb P line. No issues with larger fish just use a good light rod and reel. Way more fun and you will not be straightening your hooks

I keep the tension reasonably loose but when we hit late July and into August I tighten up as I do not like stressing out the fish to much. Southern AB reservoirs get pretty warm. Again all was good for many many years but this last batch of Little Thumpers the hook is just a pc of wire.

To continue the rant, my new titanium leaders are giving out 1 a trip. Before I would use the same leader for a year, now I had to move up to a very high end product. Everyone likes to screw over the working Joe.

Dodger.

npauls
06-15-2019, 12:40 AM
Hey dodger long time not chat.

Head to canadian tire and try some fin tech knuckle ball jigs. I have never had a problem with them.

raw outdoors
06-15-2019, 08:17 AM
What’s your favourite colour and size I will send you one that you will never straighten out.

walleyechaser
06-15-2019, 08:27 AM
I keep the tension reasonably loose but when we hit late July and into August I tighten up as I do not like stressing out the fish to much. Southern AB reservoirs get pretty warm. Again all was good for many many years but this last batch of Little Thumpers the hook is just a pc of wire.



To continue the rant, my new titanium leaders are giving out 1 a trip. Before I would use the same leader for a year, now I had to move up to a very high end product. Everyone likes to screw over the working Joe.



Dodger.Why titanium leader? 15-20 lb fluorocarbon is all you want for southern Alberta reservoirs, pike dont break 20lb fluoro too easy if you hook into one

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dodger
06-15-2019, 05:39 PM
Hey dodger long time not chat.

Head to canadian tire and try some fin tech knuckle ball jigs. I have never had a problem with them.

Thanks ! How has the fishin been for ya?

Dodger.

dodger
06-15-2019, 05:43 PM
What’s your favourite colour and size I will send you one that you will never straighten out.

I have 10 jigs each coming from 4 different manufacturers. Hopefully I will have this nailed down this summer. Thanks for the kind offer :happy0180:

Dodger.

dodger
06-15-2019, 05:55 PM
Why titanium leader? 15-20 lb fluorocarbon is all you want for southern Alberta reservoirs, pike dont break 20lb fluoro too easy if you hook into one

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I spent the previous winter making lots of leaders, I went with 30/lb flouro leader ( not line ). Last summer I had some crimping clasps failures and failures on the flouro. The titanium leaders “ use to “ last forever and are no hindrance in my catching Walleye. I found a good one from a US manufacturer that has already proven itself. Now I have more of them coming.

The clasp failures from the leaders I bought and the ones I made are why I spent time looking for a quality product.

The theme of this thread is a large portion of manufacturers are making junk and will only produce cheaper cr#$ in the coming years.

Dodger.

kouleerunner
06-16-2019, 08:02 AM
I haven’t used them a lot yet but the quality from big sky flies and jigs is really good.

I have, and do almost exclusively use big sky Jigs. Great quality hooks, all hand made hand painted, right here in southern Alberta. Call Dan up, he will make anything you want, and any quantity you want.

Www.bigskyflies.ca

Bushleague
06-16-2019, 10:13 AM
I spent the previous winter making lots of leaders, I went with 30/lb flouro leader ( not line ). Last summer I had some crimping clasps failures and failures on the flouro. The titanium leaders “ use to “ last forever and are no hindrance in my catching Walleye. I found a good one from a US manufacturer that has already proven itself. Now I have more of them coming.

The clasp failures from the leaders I bought and the ones I made are why I spent time looking for a quality product.

The theme of this thread is a large portion of manufacturers are making junk and will only produce cheaper cr#$ in the coming years.

Dodger.

I know its not cool or sexy, but I've gone to making my leaders out of mono leader materiel and have nothing but good things to report. For straight up pike fishing I use 80lb Berkley Big Game leader material, it does get chewed up after about a dozen fish or so but I have never had one fail. Infact, because it doesn't kink I would almost say its often in better shape at that point than a steel leader. I also make leaders out of single strand steel because my work gives me the wire for free, having learned long ago to mistrust crimps I prefer my uni-knots and haywire twists to commercial leaders.

I've used as light as 40lb Mono material with good results, if I could find lighter material I'd be confident trying it. Just have a look at the business end after each fish and replace when necessary.

dodger
06-16-2019, 04:00 PM
I have, and do almost exclusively use big sky Jigs. Great quality hooks, all hand made hand painted, right here in southern Alberta. Call Dan up, he will make anything you want, and any quantity you want.

Www.bigskyflies.ca

Thanks, I saved the link. I see he is sold out of the one I want to try but I’ll probably get an order in.

Dodger

dodger
06-16-2019, 04:10 PM
I know its not cool or sexy, but I've gone to making my leaders out of mono leader materiel and have nothing but good things to report. For straight up pike fishing I use 80lb Berkley Big Game leader material, it does get chewed up after about a dozen fish or so but I have never had one fail. Infact, because it doesn't kink I would almost say its often in better shape at that point than a steel leader. I also make leaders out of single strand steel because my work gives me the wire for free, having learned long ago to mistrust crimps I prefer my uni-knots and haywire twists to commercial leaders.

I've used as light as 40lb Mono material with good results, if I could find lighter material I'd be confident trying it. Just have a look at the business end after each fish and replace when necessary.

Anytime someone makes something for themselves it’s always cool:sHa_shakeshout:

The reason I went to titanium was a steel leader would kink after 1-2 Pike and be garbage. The titanium never kinked ever...................until the cr$& titanium leaders of 2019. So yesterday a had a 30 fish day and today I went to a Pike lake and caught 30+ Pike today. The new titanium leader i brought in from the US is still like new ( awesomeness ). No more Bass/Cab/Fishinhole Chinese leaders again.

Dodger.

npauls
06-16-2019, 10:03 PM
Thanks ! How has the fishin been for ya?

Dodger.

Unfortunately my fishing trips are very limited the last few years. My son is into baseball big time and plays summer ball which takes up 6 days a week for 9 weeks. So usually his season ends and bow hunting starts within a week or 2 so my walleye fishing is almost non existent lately.

How about you. How has fishing been?

Ty those knuckle balls out. I dont think you will be disappointed.

As mentioned earlier, try big sky jigs as well. Dan makes them all in med. Hat. They are solid jigs.

SamSteele
06-17-2019, 07:37 AM
Knuckle Balls, VMC Hammerhead, Big Sky and High Calibre Lures are all good options.

dodger
06-17-2019, 03:08 PM
Unfortunately my fishing trips are very limited the last few years. My son is into baseball big time and plays summer ball which takes up 6 days a week for 9 weeks. So usually his season ends and bow hunting starts within a week or 2 so my walleye fishing is almost non existent lately.

How about you. How has fishing been?

Ty those knuckle balls out. I dont think you will be disappointed.

As mentioned earlier, try big sky jigs as well. Dan makes them all in med. Hat. They are solid jigs.

Time with the boy is time that will never come back. Enjoy your time with him as much as possible. The Eyes will still be waiting :sHa_shakeshout:

Dodger.