Fishing for Bow River Rainbow Trout with CRANKBAITS

[fishingsince1966]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivq6ANUBs_o.

[roper1]

Cool video. Thanks!! We fished it Tues night with the same tackle. Had couple dozen on, probably 15-18 into the boat. Great fishing!!

[Mr Flyguy]

Ripping the hook out of their mouths with pliers...nice!:mad0100:

[goldscud]

Nice fish.
Do you think changing out your trebles for single hooks would be a good idea to reduce the amount of tissue damage?

[AK47]

Nice fish, well done and thanks for sharing!

[HuyFishin]

Nice fish.
Do you think changing out your trebles for single hooks would be a good idea to reduce the amount of tissue damage?

I started doing this and purchasing hooks that are debarbed for me.

[Dielbo]

Nice fish.
Do you think changing out your trebles for single hooks would be a good idea to reduce the amount of tissue damage?

Absolutely. There is no good reason for using treble hooks on trout in a catch & release river. It's very easy to swap them for a single. If they have a split-ring, remove the treble hook and substitute a similarly weighted octopus or similar wide-gap hook to get proper set and hold. If they don't have a split-ring (for instance on Rooster Tails and such) cut the treble hook off with some pliers and put on a siwash hook. These hooks come open at eye-end and can be slipped on and then pinched down with pliers. I have experimented with different sizes and hooks to see effect on lure action and it's really easy.


https://youtu.be/N0Yd93ihWDg


With trout I don't see any benefit to using a treble at all. All it does is increase fish mortality and tangle up in your nets. The odds of sticking them in the eye is pretty significant. If you're fishing for pike or bass or other fish with hardier constitution and tougher mouths, I can possibly see that making sense ( I don't, I've swapped all my pike lures to single without any noticeable drop in hook-ups) but for trout, not at all.

https://afspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1577/M02-172.1

http://www.northlandoutdoors.com/2019/04/24/how-and-how-long-you-handle-released-fish-will-determine-if-they-live-or-die/

[CardiacCowboy]

Changing hooks and using barbless is good idea. I find at least removing the belly hook makes a big difference in quick release and accidently doing damage with free hook.

[kc_okotoks]

awesome fishing . thanks.

[58thecat]

Rapella F4 rainbow trout pinched barbs with the belly one removed.....

[Smoky buck]

A barbless treble makes a big difference or bend the points over if you are still finding issues. Removing trebles from the belly of a crankbait can effect the balance. Replacing with singles of similar weight does work

Personally find a barbless treble is fine and easy to remove. I also find treble don’t penetrate as deep because of where the three points meet.

For 10 years I tested the results of treble vs single on rainbows in a private closed system. When it comes to lures a barbless treble vs a barbless single is very close with both having advantages and disadvantages over the other when talking mortality and long term damage.

Personally I will take a barbless treble of appropriate size any day. I have my reason and backed by close controlled observation where I could see long term results beyond just seeing fish swim away out fishing

Either way appropriate handling and limited handling time is important.

[58thecat]

A barbless treble makes a big difference or bend the points over if you are still finding issues. Removing trebles from the belly of a crankbait can effect the balance. Replacing with singles of similar weight does work

Personally find a barbless treble is fine and easy to remove. I also find treble don’t penetrate as deep because of where the three points meet.

For 10 years I tested the results of treble vs single on rainbows in a private closed system. When it comes to lures a barbless treble vs a barbless single is very close with both having advantages and disadvantages over the other when talking mortality and long term damage.

Personally I will take a barbless treble of appropriate size any day. I have my reason and backed by close controlled observation where I could see long term results beyond just seeing fish swim away out fishing

Either way appropriate handling and limited handling time is important.

your right there smokey...if you adjust your lures ensure you see what the action was prior to and after....a little tweaking can be a good thing or throw it for a loop....oh and gonna spend all today with your lures dedicated to reek havoc on the pike...more to follow.....:)

[Smoky buck]

your right there smokey...if you adjust your lures ensure you see what the action was prior to and after....a little tweaking can be a good thing or throw it for a loop....oh and gonna spend all today with your lures dedicated to reek havoc on the pike...more to follow.....:)

That 4 inch model in pink/white/red and chartreuse/white/orange/black have caught LOTS of pike in my boat in the last 3 trips. I need to make a 6inch version :evilgrin:

I may need to break down and go test it on walleye since that is what it was built for even though they bore me. Need to fix the boat first after breaking it yesterday :(

Two new models in the works right now including the requested shallow diver

[fishingsince1966]

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[Lornce]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZE4eoDluo4

See and do the above suggestions to your sportfishing for less mortality and I will do so.

[pikeman06]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZE4eoDluo4

No.

[fishingsince1966]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkcZaKtQkugQhFG6n

[bonedogg]

Isn't the double treble illegal in AB?????

[matt1984]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkcZaKtQkugQhFG6n

If you acknowledged all of the comments on safer fish handling you may actually gain some traction. Until then, no one wants to see you ripping the lips off the fish in a catch and release river.

[fishingsince1966]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeuSVeIhRik&lc=UgzoByku_casRMakivV4AaABAg

[barbless]

Should have named your video "Rippin Lips"
As mentioned above, Why the use of barbed hooks in a catch and release water system? Do it right and fish can be caught without barbs.

[vital shok]

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No one wants to see that crap.Ruining a great river three barbed hooks at a time keep up the good work.Go barbless or stay home.

[bonedogg]

0 support for someone that is this careless about our fish!!

[EZM]

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[buckman]

Time the regs were changed. In BC its single hooks only in streams.

[tikka250]

Ahh good ol outdoorsman forum. Where someone posts about their passion and is torn apart by holier than thou experts.
Great job and great video!

[Mr Flyguy]

Time the regs were changed. In BC its single hooks only in streams.

And barbless as well!

[CardiacCowboy]

Careful what you wish for. I would not be against those regulations changes suggested but ..... the next step would be the bow being fly fishing only. I remember this being considered in the past.

[Lornce]

I will wish for barbless only also.

[dmeinder]

Great videos and thanks for the lure tips for rainbows. I personally don't see any issue with what your doing. In fact, you're handling far less than many do that take multiple pictures, yet use single hooks to be nice to the fish...somewhat ass backwards there. All your hooks came out very easily, and no blood or flesh was torn. I think the jealousy is rampant is all.

Cheers ! (I subscribed, keep it up!)

[Jamie]

Great video.. You were within the law.. Some of these fly guys need to relax a bit.
Thanks for sharing and don't let the guys who's crap doesn't stink bring you down.

[59whiskers]

To add to this I would have no problem if a one fish daily limit be allowed for any none native trout in out of streams in Alberta, say brookies, browns and non native rainbows. Might help out the native species recover. Not everyone is highly skilled at fly fishing and I fly fish too and spinner fish too.

[CardiacCowboy]

To add to this I would have no problem if a one fish daily limit be allowed for any none native trout in out of streams in Alberta, say brookies, browns and non native rainbows. Might help out the native species recover. Not everyone is highly skilled at fly fishing and I fly fish too and spinner fish too.
This would have to be applied to very specific flowing waters were there has been enough research to ensure it can sustain. There is already a pretty liberal brook trout limit/bounty in many es1 streams. It most have been effective as brook have become rare in these waters.

In the bow? No way!! As a catch and release river there is a crazy amount of anglers on the water add in those who would start to keep fish and bow would be decemated in 2 years. I fish the bow in the city limits often and tons of people walking by comment they won't fish the bow because they can't keep fish. I personally know many anglers that I would not trust on the bow with a 1 fish limit. They would keep 1 if they caught 1 but would keep more if they thought they wouldn't be caught or go out in a group and keep 1 per person. I live close enough to good water I could easly catch and keep 1 every day. Never mind what makes the bow special (at least for me as a mostly spinner shore fisherman) is the quality not the quantity of fish in the river. I know I might not catch many but have a good shot at a 20incher every time out.

[CardiacCowboy]

LOL I think I got good karma by posting this. After writing this I started thinking been awhile since a got a true monster out of the bow. Next day I started out with a nice 17incher on third cast. Much later in the day I landed a monster 20+inch rainbow in some rapids. Super thick! Looked more like the salmon they sell at safeway then a trout.

So spent 7am-2pm on the bow caught 2 fish and consider it one of my best days recently. Plus enjoyed nature spotted: female rig neck pheasant, mink (saw it go into water and come out with a minnow!),bald eagle, osprey, pike, blue heron, and deer. All within 10 drive from my house.

This would have to be applied to very specific flowing waters were there has been enough research to ensure it can sustain. There is already a pretty liberal brook trout limit/bounty in many es1 streams. It most have been effective as brook have become rare in these waters.

In the bow? No way!! As a catch and release river there is a crazy amount of anglers on the water add in those who would start to keep fish and bow would be decemated in 2 years. I fish the bow in the city limits often and tons of people walking by comment they won't fish the bow because they can't keep fish. I personally know many anglers that I would not trust on the bow with a 1 fish limit. They would keep 1 if they caught 1 but would keep more if they thought they wouldn't be caught or go out in a group and keep 1 per person. I live close enough to good water I could easly catch and keep 1 every day. Never mind what makes the bow special (at least for me as a mostly spinner shore fisherman) is the quality not the quantity of fish in the river. I know I might not catch many but have a good shot at a 20incher every time out.

[mongo]

Thanks for showing... Great video.

[Fish Jesus]

Great video.. You were within the law.. Some of these fly guys need to relax a bit.
Thanks for sharing and don't let the guys who's crap doesn't stink bring you down.

Yes, it is much more effective to police yourself than others.

The Bow is a cowboy fishery full of non natives. It should be open season on them. Brown trout deserve as much conservation as Prussian Carp. They're as sporting as pike.

The only fish in there worthy of respect is the Mountain whitefish.

I hope these comments aren't too barbed for you guys.

Love,

Fish Jesus

[LUNKDAWGEH]

Come on, now that's just ridiculous. Pike are much more sporting than Browns. [emoji14]

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[SNAPFisher]

Yes, it is much more effective to police yourself than others.

The Bow is a cowboy fishery full of non natives. It should be open season on them. Brown trout deserve as much conservation as Prussian Carp. They're as sporting as pike.

The only fish in there worthy of respect is the Mountain whitefish.

I hope these comments aren't too barbed for you guys.

Love,

Fish Jesus

I predict banned before new years. Some people are sure bored...

[Frank_NK28]

Ahh good ol outdoorsman forum. Where someone posts about their passion and is torn apart by holier than thou experts.
Great job and great video!

My thoughts as well...no shortage of keyboard fishing pro's and critics in here
....absolutely worst group of any forums I frequent....:snapoutofit: