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IronNoggin
01-19-2021, 01:43 PM
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December 2, 2020
The Honourable Bernadette Jordan, P.C., M.P.
Minister of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard
200 Kent Street
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0E6

Dear Minister Jordan,

I write you today to make you aware of BCWF’s position regarding proposed control pinniped populations in B.C. In short, the BCWF supports controlled harvest of pinniped’s along B.C.’s coast because there is currently an imbalance between pinnipeds and their prey, namely wild salmon, herring, and other fish stocks of concern.

There is now good science available to give some insight about what has happened to the pinniped populations in B.C. and how these out-of-control populations are affecting many species of fish. Amongst several other scientists, Dr. Carl Walters of the University of British Columbia has produced studies that show that Steller Sea Lions alone consume over 1,000,000 Fraser River sockeye.

Seals are also of great concern. Their population has also expanded wildly in the last 50 years. Though the seals consume far less from a total consumption perspective, seals are calculated to consume over 40% of chinook and coho smolts in the Salish Sea (Gulf of Georgia). In some river systems, it is estimated that seals can consume up to 85% of outbound salmon smolts. With predation levels this high, when these smolts are just heading out to sea, it is hardly surprising that some rivers get any more than a handful of adult fish returning at the end of their life cycle.

The BCWF also recognizes that ocean survival is problematic but there is little opportunity to influence this overriding issue. Controlling numbers of predators of endangered fish stocks is something that your department can control. For example, there are currently IFMP proposals submitted to your ministry for a managed harvest of pinnipeds here in B.C. These proposals are backed by science, would help save these precious fish stocks, would help increase food abundance for the endangered Southern Resident Killer Whales and other species, and would provide employment opportunities for fishers in many coastal communities.

These are all positive steps that could happen with approval of these IFMPs by your ministry. Pinniped removal in rivers in the USA Pacific Northwest indicate immediate, positive effects on returning fish populations.

Though we realize that a harvest of pinnipeds may be controversial in some segments of society, we urge your ministry to approve a managed pinniped harvest in BC.

We hope that you, as Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, have the courage to make this difficult decision and support the managed harvest of pinnipeds in B.C. The future of endangered fish stocks in B.C. is in your hands.

Yours in conservation,

Bill Bosch
President
B.C. Wildlife Federation
101-9706 188th St, Surrey, BC V4N 3M2 | T: 604-882-9988 TF: 1-888-881-2293 F: 604-882-9933 | www.bcwf.bc.ca

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IronNoggin
03-17-2021, 12:07 PM
The Lower Fraser Fish Alliance (LFFA) and the Fraser Salmon Management Council (FRSMC) both have now fully endorsed the PBPS IFMP to harvest pinnipeds to bring their populations back into historical balance. They joined a growing list of FN's doing so, including the Nisga’a (Licenses issued) and the Haida (discussions ongoing). At this rate, it is entirely likely that every single coastal FN will be onboard in the next short while.

And on it goes...
Nog

IronNoggin
03-18-2021, 12:29 PM
Putting that last in perspective:

Fraser Salmon Management Council: This is a group that has a mandate to negotiate directly with DFO and is comprised of 75 Nations on the migratory pathways leading into and including the Fraser River. They negotiate at a Tier 1 level. ( Google for full understanding of their powers).

Lower Fraser Fisheries Alliance: 33 Nations, with the main focus of managing Fraser River stocks.

There exists widespread support beyond FN's of course. SFI, BCWF, Fraser Valley Salmon Society, Amalgamated Conservation Society, UFAWA and many many more.

The groundswell continues to grow...

Cheers,
Nog

MyAlberta
03-18-2021, 02:15 PM
85% of sea bound smolts. How could one support that number?

MyAlberta
03-18-2021, 02:19 PM
How does this relate to the increase in commercial grows?

IronNoggin
03-18-2021, 02:20 PM
85% of sea bound smolts. How could one support that number?

Clearly unsustainable.

But the wannabe's at DFO are MUCH more concerned about job security than they are about the very resource they are mandated to conserve. So much so, they have been stalling us repeatedly for three and a half years on the IFMP we submitted.

News for them: The combined support of every coastal FN is about to run right over you.

Nog

IronNoggin
03-18-2021, 02:30 PM
How does this relate to the increase in commercial grows?

Don't quite get what you are asking?

MyAlberta
03-18-2021, 03:33 PM
I was asking how one could present the 85% with confidence. The second was if commercial operations are at play with endorsements

I don’t know enough about it, so just asking

IronNoggin
03-18-2021, 03:44 PM
I was asking how one could present the 85% with confidence. The second was if commercial operations are at play with endorsements...

Personally I believe the 85% number to be a tad high.
In various scientific studies, the bottom line appears to be in the 50 - 55 % range for Coho & Chinook.
Those are of course validly supported percentages via scientific determination.
That said, in some instances wherein there are local conditions that favor the seals, 85 % is entirely possible.

There is support being voiced by various commercial operations. My fleet (Area G Troll) is all in favor, however have yet to submit written support. Area H and F are the same. The UFAWA is the Union supporting commercial fishing operators out here, and they are in firm support (written).

Sports-fishing operations are on our side as well, ranging from the Sport Fishing Institute (SFI) to various guide organizations. Talks are currently underway with the the Pacific Salmon Foundation (PSF), and it is expected they will soon be joining the support list.

Cheers,
Nog

IronNoggin
07-18-2021, 02:03 PM
So far the Nishka have harvested 1500 seals and 500 sea lions in the Nass system.

The collection of Fraser FN's (appx 130 Bands) have put DFO on notice: Issue permits and work with them now, or they will proceed unilaterally.
DFO running scared...

On other fronts, DFO is moving ahead issuing harvest permits under FSC.

Jason Knight is their new manager for this mission and was hired by Wilf Ludke (DFO Nanaimo).
The first area to be harvested is the Puntledge and then the Big Qualicum in August.

I would say it is safe to say, the ball is now rolling.

Cheers,
Nog

Drewski Canuck
07-18-2021, 07:10 PM
The Big Q area was crawling with seals and sea lions when we quit fishing it in 1995. Norris rock, Flora rock, Chrome island, Tribune bay, all being decimated with seals back then. I can only imagine what it is like these days.

Bang on, (literally) to a seal harvest.

Drewski

Positrac
07-18-2021, 07:18 PM
The Big Q area was crawling with seals and sea lions when we quit fishing it in 1995. Norris rock, Flora rock, Chrome island, Tribune bay, all being decimated with seals back then. I can only imagine what it is like these days.

Bang on, (literally) to a seal harvest.

Drewski

Norris Rock has way less seals on it now than it did back in the late 80’s/early 90’s. Of corse, there are very few Coho around and Chinook in the area even back then we’re scared.

I saw dozens of seals out off the south end of Quadra today. Fishing was flat-out awesome too.

Marty S
07-18-2021, 08:16 PM
THE ONLY GOOD PINNIPED IS A DEAD PINNIPED!!!

Can you imagine the green house gas emmissions from all these fricking pinnipeds???

Its a pinnipeds world out there!!!





Just kidding!
Glad somebody is growing brains and groin-al equipment




Hopefully therell be plenty of salmon for both the walls and walls and walls and walls (to infinitey) of nets in the rivers and the sporties with their single barblessessses.

smoked pinniped anybody???