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CanuckShooter
07-01-2023, 06:51 PM
I gave my 410, that I've had since my teens, to a young fellow of 11 and now I am looking to buy myself a new chicken gun.

What are you guys using, I'm thinking a 20 ga would make a good chicken gun and the ammo is probably cheaper than the 410 which is a bonus. Not sure if I'd get a single shot again, a pump or auto.

I own a real nice 12 ga Beretta O/U but it's too big and pretty to use as a chicken gun and have it bouncing around on my atv.

20 ga? yes?

north american hunter
07-01-2023, 06:58 PM
nice little single shot 20 gauge. cant get much better than the for chickens.

brewster29
07-01-2023, 07:16 PM
Bonus with 20 gauge is easy to source ammunition and the price is about a third of 410.

CranePete
07-01-2023, 07:44 PM
My go-to grouse gun is a Stevens O/U 28ga. A few more pellets, a bit faster, and less expensive to shoot. It’s very light and very fast on target.

3blade
07-01-2023, 07:52 PM
My preference is 12g for wing shooting and 410 for spot and stalk, but nothing wrong with 20. Mossberg 500 in whatever flavor you like. There’s a 500 “turkey” 20g with a 22 inch barrel that would be a handy chicken gun. You can beat the hell out of it and not worry.

Cheap o/u’s tend to fail at the worst times. I hate it when guns break mid hunt.

curtz
07-01-2023, 09:53 PM
nice little single shot 20 gauge. cant get much better than the for chickens.

Agreed, specially if want to carry it on your atv. We bought one for dad years ago and he loved that little single 20. I use a over under 20.

wallz
07-01-2023, 10:08 PM
My takedown 10/22 is my chicken gun. Cheaper, quieter, can usually get the whole lot of them together, or the majority before they split.

Plus head shots are way more fun!

FishOutOfWater
07-01-2023, 10:33 PM
There's a "tacticool" Mossberg 500 pump 20 gauge with ghost-ring sights & 20" smooth barrel on GunPost in Edmonton... $400

And a Mossberg 500 20 Gauge Youth Pump Action Shotgun
in Whitby, Onterrible with a 22" vent-rib and traditional-style furniture (youth stock) for $425.

Swap the stock on either one, to a full-length traditional-style polymer 500 stock. Easy to find part.

And the shorter 22" barrels (smooth or V-R) would make bush-hunting more manageable IMO, versus the 26-28" vent-rib.

https://i.ibb.co/Lg6xVP6/IMG-1236-0.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/jJnbdQp/5-EEF5559-E40-C-4271-A99-A-9411-FEE23-CC3.jpg

elkhunter11
07-02-2023, 05:35 AM
A 20 gauge makes much more sense for ground swatting grouse, than a 410 ever will. When ground swatting, the best way to keep shot out of the meat is to shoot high, into the head/neck, and the denser 20 gauge pattern is much more effective for this.

partsman
07-03-2023, 06:54 PM
Have carried a 22/410 for years but got a 30/30/20 gauge I want to try and had picked up two side by side coach guns, one in 16 gauge and one in 20 gauge, thought they might be nice on the atv.

32-40win
07-04-2023, 01:03 PM
Used pretty much everything but an autoloader for chickens at one time or another, 870 12ga, Stevens 22lr/20ga, Spanish SxS 20ga, BPS 12ga, Valmet o/u 20ga, Baikal single 12ga, CZ Ringneck 20ga, FAIR Iside 20 ga hammergun, Browning A-Bolt 22 and a newer T-Bolt, CIL/Anschutz single .22LR, BLR 22, maybe something else I've forgot about.
Think actually, my favorite was the Baikal, had an under lever release to open it, which is an amazingly easy action to use. Would have preferred 20ga though. Wouldn't buy another BLR22, needs a sidegate for loading singles or a bigger chamber port. I believe the Valmet 20ga o/u probably accounted for the larger portion of chickens I've shot.

338wea
07-04-2023, 03:26 PM
I have a 20, haven't had a chance to shoot a bird with it yet though

Grizzly Adams1
07-04-2023, 03:52 PM
nice little single shot 20 gauge. cant get much better than the for chickens.

With about a 12 in. barrel. :D

Grizz

Pathfinder76
07-04-2023, 06:28 PM
A Purdey SXS 20 Gauge.

Bushleague
07-04-2023, 08:30 PM
I either use my Remington 870 12 gauge, or an old pump action .22 with iron sights and a tube mag. If I'm not walking too far usually the 12 gauge, just use small shot, an open choke, and aim high if their real close.

If I'm planning to do a bunch of hiking its usually the .22, can fit all the shells I need for a day in that tube mag. In the type of crap where I hunt, if a grouse is out of iron sight range, your probably not going to have a clear shot at it anyway... and for head shooting grouse at close range irons are way better. No over/under line of sight guesstimating that a scope throws into the mix.

CanuckShooter
07-05-2023, 06:37 AM
With about a 12 in. barrel. :D

Grizz

You could call it shorty. :thinking-006:

catnthehat
07-05-2023, 07:42 AM
We really overthink this stuff sometimes.
if it's going to bounce around under the seat of a truck or on a quad, a cheap single shot, be it a shotgun of any gauge or a .22 is probably the cheapest, most durable way to go.
When I trapped, my main rifle was a single shot .22, I killed more small game than I can count with that type of rifle.
Lately for nuisance squirrels at the lake I havbe been shooting an old Remington model12 , and although I like the little rifle I hate tube magazines so I single load it which is a bit of a pain, so I have decided to go bck to a single shot .
Cat

tony d
07-05-2023, 01:00 PM
I use the cheapest fold in half 20 gauge I could find works great dont care if I loose it drive over it etc it is expendable and a hell of alot cheaper and more effective than a 410

thumper
07-05-2023, 01:08 PM
My little Savage o/u 22/20gauge was perfect. If they want to flush, the open choke 20 gauge was deadly. If they wanted to sit, the .22 was the ticket. Withe the short barrel, it broke down into 3 pieces that would fit into a day pack too!

SamSteele
07-05-2023, 01:43 PM
My little Savage o/u 22/20gauge was perfect. If they want to flush, the open choke 20 gauge was deadly. If they wanted to sit, the .22 was the ticket. Withe the short barrel, it broke down into 3 pieces that would fit into a day pack too!

I was just going to recommend this myself. I have a Model 24, which has since been replaced with a synthetic stock version (Model 42?). Pretty great little rig for sitting or flying birds.

I also have a Chiappa Little Badger, which is surprisingly accurate for a little single .22. It comes in a little backpack bag, which is handy at times.

SS

brewster29
07-05-2023, 09:26 PM
I got tired of the cost of 410 ammo so I sold my Savage 24 22/410 and bought this H&R Tamer 20. I should have bought one years ago when they were available. It folds up to fit in my pack; plus the 20” mod choke delivers a nice dense pattern at 25 yards, and ammo is $13 a box. It is spending the summer in my RV.

Huntsman
07-06-2023, 06:59 AM
I got tired of the cost of 410 ammo so I sold my Savage 24 22/410 and bought this H&R Tamer 20. I should have bought one years ago when they were available. It folds up to fit in my pack; plus the 20” mod choke delivers a nice dense pattern at 25 yards, and ammo is $13 a box. It is spending the summer in my RV.

This ^
Spare ammo in the butt if not mistaken. I’ve seen H&R Center fire riflecombos
My two 410s have collected dust and ammo prices……eyes roll….

My go to is a single Turkish 12g and Chiappa Lil Badger , both fold and are gtg for carrying both in backpacks, or my Ithaca 37/16g.
If I had reloading components/press for 410 I’d giver a go.
Best of luck on your choice!

1899b
07-06-2023, 09:18 AM
Last fall the misses used an old Baikal 12 gauge and I was using a Ruger 10/22 compact for the most part. I enjoy both shotgun or rimfire. Slight edge to the rimfire for me especially when hiking. Less bulk with rimfire ammo but to each their own…



https://i.postimg.cc/SQcnHYgm/IMG-8535.jpg (https://postimg.cc/t7CRxJ0c)

bezzola
07-06-2023, 09:45 AM
I use a remington match master 22 and i also use my winchester sxp 20

CranePete
07-06-2023, 02:07 PM
I’m starting to feel like the odd man out…nobody else shooting 28ga?
CranePete

elkhunter11
07-06-2023, 03:13 PM
I’m starting to feel like the odd man out…nobody else shooting 28ga?
CranePete

28 gauge SxS for pheasant , sharptail and Huns, but I don't ground swat ruffed grouse.

catnthehat
07-06-2023, 03:41 PM
I’m starting to feel like the odd man out…nobody else shooting 28ga?
CranePete

I hunt uplNd with every gauge exceot the 10 now, it all depends on what I want to shoot that day :)
Cat

Twisted Canuck
07-06-2023, 03:47 PM
I got my daghter an older lightweight Remington 1100 LW in 20g for busting clays, and it was perfect for that. But it also has worked out great for pheasant and chickens. Quick point and shoot gun, cheap ammo, and pleasant on recoil. Works like a darn if there are a couple chickens around too.

Huntsman
07-06-2023, 09:25 PM
Saw this on G nutz
Wears a synthetic stock.

oldjeda
07-07-2023, 06:57 AM
Anyone ever try those new 12 gauge 1 3/4” short shot shells for chickens? I’ve seen them advertised but not sure what size shot they even come in.

Just asking.....

elkhunter11
07-07-2023, 07:04 AM
Anyone ever try those new 12 gauge 1 3/4” short shot shells for chickens? I’ve seen them advertised but not sure what size shot they even come in.

Just asking.....

I don't see the point in spending more for short shells, when you can just shoot high, to avoid messing up the meat.

CanuckShooter
07-07-2023, 07:59 AM
Saw this on G nutz
Wears a synthetic stock.

???

Huntsman
07-07-2023, 08:00 AM
Anyone ever try those new 12 gauge 1 3/4” short shot shells for chickens? I’ve seen them advertised but not sure what size shot they even come in.

Just asking.....

I’ve shot the Federal buckshot shorties. Good for close range or built up areas, buildings room to room etc.
I wouldn’t dare use one for deer. Maybe a rabid ‘buck’ gopher.
Same goes for the #7.5 shot. Snake 🐍 medicine or rabid frogs….
YMMV

CanuckShooter
07-07-2023, 08:04 AM
https://store.prophetriver.com/lazer-xt3-20ga-3-28-blksyn-bl/


I was looking this one over, brand new and not too expensive....I just wish that there was somewhere close that sold these so I could handle one before putting out the coin.

https://www.cabelas.ca/product/148029/charles-daly-101-single-barrel-shotgun

Or this charles, don't see a hammer and just a bead sight....

jungleboy
07-07-2023, 12:43 PM
https://store.prophetriver.com/lazer-xt3-20ga-3-28-blksyn-bl/


I was looking this one over, brand new and not too expensive....I just wish that there was somewhere close that sold these so I could handle one before putting out the coin.

https://www.cabelas.ca/product/148029/charles-daly-101-single-barrel-shotgun

Or this charles, don't see a hammer and just a bead sight....

They carry the same gun at P&D. Revolution Arms. Made by lazer I have one and it’s been a great little chicken cannon

Huntsman
07-07-2023, 01:13 PM
???

On CGN (gunnutz) there is one of these with a synthetic stock
sale.
I’d provide link but I think that goes against forum rules.

Skookumchuck
08-04-2023, 11:58 AM
I usually just use the 10/22 unless I'm walking behind the dog then it's a SxS 20ga

Stinky Buffalo
08-04-2023, 12:39 PM
https://store.prophetriver.com/lazer-xt3-20ga-3-28-blksyn-bl/


I was looking this one over, brand new and not too expensive....I just wish that there was somewhere close that sold these so I could handle one before putting out the coin.


I have the .410 wood stock version of that one. It's a great shotgun for the money! It has taken many a chicken on our forest walks, and has been perfect for shooters over a wide spectrum of ages.

Pioneer2
08-04-2023, 03:48 PM
I’m starting to feel like the odd man out…nobody else shooting 28ga?
CranePete

28ga Cooey 840 for pheasants and grouse. [handloads of course]

AB2506
08-09-2023, 03:31 PM
https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/charles-daly-101-little-scorpio--12ga-3--14-barrel-930-237ns-.html

This is the best value in single shot shotguns. This is a 12GA, but may be available in 410.

I have the 12GA, but bought a 410 insert for about $35.

Just a word about this shotgun. The first one misfired and thought it was just the shorty shells I was using as the regular shells fired. However, the more I fired it, the more it required 2 strikes to fire a shell, any shells. Unfortunately I had had it Cerakoted and could not send it back. I spent more than the purchase cost in gunsmithing fees and the conclusion was that it could be repaired, but it would require a lot of machining to fix it, the firing pin hole was out of alignment.

I purchased a second one and there are no problems with it.

Coiloil37
08-09-2023, 03:51 PM
I prefer a .22 to smack them in the head but when I had a need for a cheap dirty shotgun it was always a $150 cooey in 410 with hand loaded brass shells that cost me nearly nothing to reload.

AB2506
08-09-2023, 04:09 PM
I prefer a .22 to smack them in the head but when I had a need for a cheap dirty shotgun it was always a $150 cooey in 410 with hand loaded brass shells that cost me nearly nothing to reload.

The only problem is that there are no $150 Cooeys anymore.

Coiloil37
08-09-2023, 05:00 PM
The only problem is that there are no $150 Cooeys anymore.


Seems like a first world problem thanks to inflation. Regardless, add the covid tax and a cheap, dirty cooey is still less expensive then a classy O/U.

I sold this one in 2019 when I left for $150 which is why I used that number. The little thing was like new.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230809/e9fd8b0965677fc77a6cc35b34335bc7.png

AB2506
08-09-2023, 06:58 PM
Seems like a first world problem thanks to inflation. Regardless, add the covid tax and a cheap, dirty cooey is still less expensive then a classy O/U.

I sold this one in 2019 when I left for $150 which is why I used that number. The little thing was like new.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230809/e9fd8b0965677fc77a6cc35b34335bc7.png

That's a very nice example of a Cooey. Unfortunately, a rusty one can go for more than $200 now.

I thought about a Cooey when that Chiappa/Charles Daly wasn't right, but I can't cut the barrel to 14", it wouldn't have an interchangeable choke etc.. That Chiappa/Charles Daly is made with the 14" barrel (legal) and has a Benelli/Beretta style choke. Purchasing a Cooey and modifying it to match is cost prohibitive and legally, I would not have the 14" barrel.

I thought rolling the dice with the Chiappa/Charles Daly was worth it. So failures with the current one. The first one is now part of my Canadian Firearms Instructor kit.

270person
08-09-2023, 07:02 PM
https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/charles-daly-101-little-scorpio--12ga-3--14-barrel-930-237ns-.html

This is the best value in single shot shotguns. This is a 12GA, but may be available in 410.

I have the 12GA, but bought a 410 insert for about $35.

Just a word about this shotgun. The first one misfired and thought it was just the shorty shells I was using as the regular shells fired. However, the more I fired it, the more it required 2 strikes to fire a shell, any shells. Unfortunately I had had it Cerakoted and could not send it back. I spent more than the purchase cost in gunsmithing fees and the conclusion was that it could be repaired, but it would require a lot of machining to fix it, the firing pin hole was out of alignment.

I purchased a second one and there are no problems with it.


Great place to buy if you need your credit card compromised.