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walking buffalo
02-14-2010, 12:21 PM
Escaped triploid rainbow trout in Lake Diefenbaker Sask. are getting HUGE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybn0gbBYSHU

pikehunter1989
02-14-2010, 12:47 PM
I have fished this lake a few times and it definatly has a lot of good sized fish. Lots of nice bows and walleyes and very clean aswell

Rockymtnx
02-14-2010, 01:52 PM
Yeah pretty cool. The previous world record was held by his twin brother from 2007 (43lbs 10 oz).


www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/biotechfishing/

48-Pound Trout: World Record or Genetic Cheat?
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2009/09/konradrecordrainbow580-350.jpg


In an age of biotechnological juicing, not even the easygoing pastime of fishing is free from controversies over artificial enhancement.

On September 5, Saskatchewan fisherman Sean Konrad caught a 48-pound, world-record rainbow trout. The fish came from Lake Diefenbaker, where trout genetically engineered to grow extra-big escaped from a fish farm nine years ago.

The previous world record was held by Sean’s twin brother Adam, who pulled a 43-pound, 10-ounce rainbow trout from Lake Diefenbaker in 2007. That catch sparked online debate over the legitimacy of Lake Diefenbaker’s farm-born, genetically-engineered rainbows. Technically known as triploids, they’re designed with three sets of chromosomes, making them sterile and channeling energies normally spent reproducing towards growth.

In 2007, on a message board of the International Game Fish Association, the angling world’s record- and ethics-keeping body, some fishermen argued that triploids were unnatural, as divorced from the sport’s history as Barry Bonds’ home runs were from Hank Aaron’s.

The IGFA refused to make a distinction between natural and GM fish. Neither would they distinguish between species caught in their traditional waters and those introduced into new, growth-friendly environments, such as largemouth bass whose extra-large ancestors were imported from Florida to California in the 1960s.

But to purists, there was a difference between transplantation and outright manufacture.

The Konrad brothers’ response on the message board was curt: “Stop crying and start fishing.”

Now they’ve caught another record-breaking trout. Or have they?

perchie15
02-14-2010, 08:32 PM
Honestly I think i had one of them big rainbows!!! I go there every summer to fish.. since I grew up in saskatoon... But last summer i was using a nice spinnerbait... Nice warm day I was just casting and reeling in a little bay.. all of a sudden drag screamed out and line broke!! :O like GOD DAMN!!!! But broke at the knot and I can never seem to tie a good knot on damn Mono line!! Grrr.

And also couple other guys we talked to in shore, were in that same bay... talking they had some fish bite on to there line.. drag screamed out.. and broke the line!! Sooo mhmm dam big fish!!??

Rokko
02-15-2010, 01:12 PM
looks like photo shop! wheres your right hand? lol

fish-man
02-15-2010, 02:51 PM
I read an interview from Adam Koenrad, he mentioned that he was consistently beating his brother in the "big fish" department. Looks like the tables have turned, well done Sean!

mark007
02-15-2010, 05:13 PM
looks like photo shop! wheres your right hand? lol

hand is holding gill plate. not photoshop!

Jimboy
02-15-2010, 05:50 PM
Seen a net in the water , never seen no hook in its mouth .

pottymouth
02-15-2010, 05:56 PM
Congrats to the fisherman. Do we always have to assume some sort of foul play everytime someone is successful with a trophy?

walking buffalo
02-15-2010, 09:02 PM
looks like photo shop! wheres your right hand? lol
You talking from fist hand experience? :lol:

fish-man
02-15-2010, 09:52 PM
These guys are legit. As mentioned, his twin has the existing world record.

http://www.fishinggeeks.net/ check it out. pretty cool.

gunner72
02-15-2010, 10:02 PM
Its well docomented, these fish and these fishermen are for real. Little fishy though, these fish are genetically diffrent from what i have read so i don't know if its a fair comparison IMO. Just Google" world record trout "and all kinds of stuff will come up.

walking buffalo
02-15-2010, 10:34 PM
Its well docomented, these fish and these fishermen are for real. Little fishy though, these fish are genetically diffrent from what i have read so i don't know if its a fair comparison IMO. Just Google" world record trout "and all kinds of stuff will come up.

These trout are not really Genetically different. No introduced gene therapy here. The fish are sterile, resulting in the fish not expending energy associated with spawning, thus more calories ingested go towards growth. In some aspects, the same reasoning for harvesting Prairie Oysters.

This is how it is done.

" When trout spawn, the female’s eggs possess two sets of chromosomes and the male’s sperm possess one set. After the eggs are fertilized, the chromosomes recombine and each egg inherits one set of chromosomes from the female and another set from the male — similar to humans. The third set is then kicked out of the egg. Rarely in the wild, an egg will “forget” to kick out the third set and the fish becomes what is known as a triploid (possessing three sets of chromosomes). Triploid fish look, swim, jump, and taste like normal fish, except for one important difference—they never develop normal eggs or sperm and are unable to reproduce (i.e., they are sterile).

Through experimentation with this natural process, researchers found that they could create triploid trout both by exposing trout eggs to pressure and by placing trout eggs in a warm water bath shortly after fertilization. Both processes inhibit a trout egg’s ability to kick out that third set of chromosomes and voila, a triploid fish is born."

Separate category for records? Yup. Put an asterix next to this one.

BeerSlayer1
02-16-2010, 09:18 AM
“Stop crying and start fishing.”


Amen, the bros. are the real deal.

perchie15
02-17-2010, 07:55 PM
If you think its fake look on youtube for videos of there big fish, type in "world record trout" Shows a couple people in that secret spot catch fish on a Rod and Reel, not a net!!.. that reminds me...

I seen a picture in the paper with the same fish but it had a hook in his mouth by the looks of it, it was a Syclops in the record rainbows mouth.. but no hook there? mhmm.. oh well.. They are using flashlights tho so good way to attract the dam fish!!! Here are the youtube links to the video clips...

http://www.youtube.com/user/fishinggeeks#p/a/u/2/ybn0gbBYSHU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOPX_fZcHHU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQKz_lnSATg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzarFJ59niI&feature=related

hunter49
02-17-2010, 11:22 PM
If you think its fake look on youtube for videos of there big fish, type in "world record trout" Shows a couple people in that secret spot catch fish on a Rod and Reel, not a net!!.. that reminds me...

I seen a picture in the paper with the same fish but it had a hook in his mouth by the looks of it, it was a Syclops in the record rainbows mouth.. but no hook there? mhmm.. oh well.. They are using flashlights tho so good way to attract the dam fish!!! Here are the youtube links to the video clips...

http://www.youtube.com/user/fishinggeeks#p/a/u/2/ybn0gbBYSHU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOPX_fZcHHU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQKz_lnSATg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzarFJ59niI&feature=related

I believe the one with the spoon in its mouth was the previous world record (43 lbs)?
I think this is the new one that the other brother caught(48 lbs)
Anybody thinking these fish are genetically altered, they are triploids. The same triploids being stocked into some of your favourite trout ponds in AB and BC. Dont hear of too many 40+ lbers coming out of Muir and Hasse though. :lol:

perchie15
02-18-2010, 08:43 PM
Hunter LOL!!! I wish!!

WayneChristie
02-18-2010, 08:47 PM
still waiting for triploid pike!!!!! now there would be some fish!!!!

Walleyes
02-18-2010, 08:54 PM
still waiting for triploid pike!!!!! now there would be some fish!!!!

I am sure they exist in nature,,they are the ones that make it big and break the records..

perchie15
02-19-2010, 08:11 PM
Ohhhh yess big big pike that would be awesome to see!!!

mooseknuckle
02-20-2010, 11:19 AM
Congrats to the fisherman. Do we always have to assume some sort of foul play everytime someone is successful with a trophy?

Yes we do!!

smitty9
02-20-2010, 04:14 PM
Just to comment on the IFGA issue:

Guys, three things an animal must do:
1) eat
2) avoid being eaten
3) procreate

By altering #3, which then influences #1, you're messing with an animal's primal instincts. I don't mind triploid fish, and i sure don't mind that we've stocked them in our lakes, and I don't begrudge these guys catching huge fish.

It should be a world record, but my opinion is that it should be in a separate category. Sterile fish that just grow and eat is fundamentally different than fertile fish that expend energy and weight reproducing.

Nice fish and my congratulations. But their names should be entered into the record books under a new category.

Smitty

perchie15
02-20-2010, 07:08 PM
Does anybody fish this like here besides me???