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redneck posse
03-09-2010, 05:30 PM
The Obama administration will accept no more public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters.

AP/Luis M. Alvarez
One sign at the United We Fish rally at the Capital summed up the feelings of recreational and commercial fishermen. This announcement comes at the time when the situation supposedly still is "fluid" and the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force still hasn't issued its final report on zoning uses of these waters.

That's a disappointment, but not really a surprise for fishing industry insiders who have negotiated for months with officials at the Council on Environmental Quality and bureaucrats on the task force. These angling advocates have come to suspect that public input into the process was a charade from the beginning.

"When the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW) completed their successful campaign to convince the Ontario government to end one of the best scientifically managed big game hunts in North America (spring bear), the results of their agenda had severe economic impacts on small family businesses and the tourism economy of communities across northern and central Ontario," said Phil Morlock, director of environmental affairs for Shimano.

"Now we see NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) and the administration planning the future of recreational fishing access in America based on a similar agenda of these same groups and other Big Green anti-use organizations, through an Executive Order by the President. The current U.S. direction with fishing is a direct parallel to what happened in Canada with hunting: The negative economic impacts on hard working American families and small businesses are being ignored.

"In spite of what we hear daily in the press about the President's concern for jobs and the economy and contrary to what he stated in the June order creating this process, we have seen no evidence from NOAA or the task force that recreational fishing and related jobs are receiving any priority."


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Fisheries In Danger
Consequently, unless anglers speak up and convince their Congressional representatives to stop this bureaucratic freight train, it appears that the task force will issue a final report for "marine spatial planning" by late March, with President Barack Obama then issuing an Executive Order to implement its recommendations — whatever they may be.

Led by NOAA's Jane Lubchenco, the task force has shown no overt dislike of recreational angling, but its indifference to the economic, social and biological value of the sport has been deafening.

Additionally, Lubchenco and others in the administration have close ties to environmental groups who would like nothing better than to ban recreational angling. And evidence suggests that these organizations have been the engine behind the task force since before Obama issued a memo creating it last June.

As ESPN previously reported, WWF, Greenpeace, Defenders of Wildlife, Pew Environment Group and others produced a document entitled "Transition Green" shortly after Obama was elected in 2008. What has happened since suggests that the task force has been in lockstep with that position paper.

Then in late summer, just after he created the task force, these groups produced "Recommendations for the Adoption and Implementation of an Oceans, Coasts, and Great Lakes National Policy." This document makes repeated references to "overfishing," but doesn't once reference recreational angling, its importance, and its benefits, both to participants and the resource.

Additionally, some of these same organizations have revealed their anti-fishing bias by playing fast and loose with "facts," in attempts to ban tackle containing lead in the United States and Canada.

That same tunnel vision, in which recreational angling and commercial fishing are indiscriminately lumped together as harmful to the resource, has persisted with the task force, despite protests by the angling industry.

As more evidence of collusion, the green groups began clamoring for an Executive Order to implement the task force's recommendations even before the public comment period ended in February. Fishing advocates had no idea that this was coming.

Perhaps not so coincidentally, the New York Times reported on Feb. 12 that "President Obama and his team are preparing an array of actions using his executive power to advance energy, environmental, fiscal and other domestic policy priorities."

Click here for archiveMorlock fears that "what we're seeing coming at us is an attempted dismantling of the science-based fish and wildlife model that has served us so well. There's no basis in science for the agendas of these groups who are trying to push the public out of being able to fish and recreate.

"Conflicts (user) are overstated and problems are manufactured. It's all just an excuse to put us off the water."

In the wake of the task force's framework document, the Congressional Sportsmen's Foundation (CSF) and its partners in the U.S. Recreational Fishing & Boating Coalition against voiced their concerns to the administration.

"Some of the potential policy implications of this interim framework have the potential to be a real threat to recreational anglers who not only contribute billions of dollars to the economy and millions of dollars in tax revenues to support fisheries conservation, but who are also the backbone of the American fish and wildlife conservation ethic," said CSF President Jeff Crane.

Morlock, a member of the CSF board, added, "There are over one million jobs in America supported coast to coast by recreational fishing. The task force has not included any accountability requirements in their reports for evaluating or mitigating how the new policies they are drafting will impact the fishing industry or related economies.

"Given that the scope of this process appears to include a new set of policies for all coastal and inland waters of the United States, the omission of economic considerations is inexcusable."

This is not the only access issue threatening the public's right to fish, but it definitely is the most serious, according to Chris Horton, national conservation director for BASS.

"With what's being created, the same principles could apply inland as apply to the oceans," he said. "Under the guise of 'marine spatial planning' entire watersheds could be shut down, even 2,000 miles up a river drainage from the ocean.

"Every angler needs to be aware because if it's not happening in your backyard today or tomorrow, it will be eventually.

"We have one of the largest voting blocks in the country and we need to use it. We must not sit idly by."

redneck posse
03-09-2010, 05:31 PM
i can find anything else about this... is this true or strat bull sh*t?????

honker_clonker
03-09-2010, 05:44 PM
There is a big thing on the shimano main page for north america about it I believe.

BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES
03-09-2010, 05:45 PM
Kevin I heard that On WFN news there , I dont think its gonna happen .

Fishing in the states is one of the most fastest growing sports . Look at Walmart funding a million dollar pot for there tournaments , and Bass tournaments , I dont see it happening . Someone would Snipe Old Obama before that would happen . That was a week or so ago I saw that . I was gonna mention something but kind of forgot .

honker_clonker
03-09-2010, 06:02 PM
It would be a very poor financial decision. Shimano site says there is about 60 million anglers. Say average angler spends $5000 a year on fishing and lodging and gas and everything (low estimate). That is $300 billion. Lots of ching to throw away.

hockey1099
03-09-2010, 06:17 PM
It would be a very poor financial decision. Shimano site says there is about 60 million anglers. Say average angler spends $5000 a year on fishing and lodging and gas and everything (low estimate). That is $300 billion. Lots of ching to throw away.

Average of 5K a year? seriously i bet the average is under a $1000.00 with most of that spent on gas.

That said i want your tackle box if your spending that on average. I bought a boat, new rods for both summer and winter, new tent, new power auger, new fish finder and i dont think i spent much over $7,000.00-$8,000.00. I'm hoping next year is substantially less with just bait and tackle.

In regards to the topic of the thread dont pay attention to these conspiracy theories

honker_clonker
03-09-2010, 07:44 PM
Average of 5K a year? seriously i bet the average is under a $1000.00 with most of that spent on gas.

That said i want your tackle box if your spending that on average. I bought a boat, new rods for both summer and winter, new tent, new power auger, new fish finder and i dont think i spent much over $7,000.00-$8,000.00. I'm hoping next year is substantially less with just bait and tackle.

In regards to the topic of the thread dont pay attention to these conspiracy theories

I've read it in 3 or 4 different international sport fishing magazines, HUGE articles in these publications. Check out Sportfishing Magazine, they have been following every development. Shimano Website, i think in in-fisherman too.

tacklerunner
03-09-2010, 07:54 PM
Average of 5K a year? seriously i bet the average is under a $1000.00 with most of that spent on gas.

That said i want your tackle box if your spending that on average. I bought a boat, new rods for both summer and winter, new tent, new power auger, new fish finder and i dont think i spent much over $7,000.00-$8,000.00. I'm hoping next year is substantially less with just bait and tackle.

In regards to the topic of the thread dont pay attention to these conspiracy theories

He's talking about USA stats not ours. I would agree way less than $1000 in Canada. Also can't take the threat in the USA seriously. George Bush Sr and Jr are avid fisherman and with the likes of Bill Dance, they'd oust Obama and make Bill Dance president.

honker_clonker
03-09-2010, 07:58 PM
Bill dance for president!

Hooker
03-09-2010, 09:22 PM
There are no major news media carrying that story. Only fringe news groups and the likes of Rush Limbaugh (who loves to stir the pot) are telling that tale. There is a news item that the administration is going to 'try' and get a ban on Blue Fin Tuna fishing but over 100 other countries would have to agree to that as well as the USA. There was another story about the problem Asian Carp are causing and state governments wanting the Feds to step in and help control the problem. Only believe 10% of what you read and verify that with another couple of reliable sources.

Hang in there Rush. Someday someone will believe you.

BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES
03-09-2010, 10:46 PM
He's talking about USA stats not ours. I would agree way less than $1000 in Canada. Also can't take the threat in the USA seriously. George Bush Sr and Jr are avid fisherman and with the likes of Bill Dance, they'd oust Obama and make Bill Dance president.

Or Roland Martin . :lol::lol::lol: the list could keep going for hours . Perhaps Kevin Vandam :cool::cool::cool: Or Babe Winklemen :D:D:D:

Beazer
03-09-2010, 10:49 PM
In the states its all about who has the best boat, best rod, best lure.
There's a reason most people in the states are in massive debt.

oagie
03-10-2010, 11:31 AM
Oh, my!!! Did I push someone's buttons?:lol:

No. He posts garbage and has been warned by the mod in bf's apology thread. The problem with opinions is everyone have one.

Okotokian
03-10-2010, 11:42 AM
No. He posts garbage and has been warned by the mod in bf's apology thread. The problem with opinions is everyone have one.

Just scroll back over his posts. You get the picture. About half of them are simply calling someone else some derogatory name. According to him he's smart, you're an idiot (or old, or poor, or white apparently) and therefore need to shut up.

oagie
03-10-2010, 02:33 PM
Sorry. I am going to railroad this thread with my last post. I just fed the troll and I shouldn't have.

Back on track.

I think it would be a huge problem if they did this. Americans are still going to fish. If they can't catch sailfish off the Florida coast, they will go somewhere else.

It will just put more pressure on Canada, Mexico and Caribbean waters and create problems elsewhere. Not to mention the thousands of fishing / tour companies who would be out of work as a result.