Carp in NSR

[~Octane~]

Anyone catch carp in the NSR? If so, how big?

[sheephunter]

There shouldn't be any there but stranger things have happened I guess.

[ABwhitetail]

people have mistaken the quillback sucker for carp....quillback's are fairly common in the edmonton area....especially in the faster moving waters, and spillways around the city....

[~Octane~]

Well..I caught this last night at my secret walleye hole, I have seen him a couple times swimming around, and finally decided id try to catch him. Dont know what it is though, could be either a carp or quillback..almost looks more like a carp? Whatever they are tho, took me 15 minutes to land. How big do quillbacks get?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/perchfisher2/Openwater%202007/Edited_NSR_Carp.jpg

[sheephunter]

Holy crap...sure looks like a carp...that's bizzare. You should report it to F&W.

[Rockymtnx]

Wow!
Keep us posted on what you find out.
Right after you talk to F&W, phone NDN up and tell him he lost the fishing contest this year. That should cancel out all his wins.

[ABwhitetail]

That is definitely a quillback.....in some parts of the states they are actually called "carp suckers"....it is one of their nicknames.....and they definitely do look like a carp....but are a species of sucker.....

I have caught quite a few at the spill way near cloverbar.....Its been a few years since I fished there, but I would say the biggest I seen or caught was about 17 maybe 18"....

They do put on a awesome fight, they are a solid fish....

They seem to be specific to certain parts of the river, I used to work for a tackle store in Edmonton, and all reports of them being caught were majority in the same places.....

Regardless, it is a great fish to add to your list of species you have caught....very few people know they even exist...

There are actually 6 different species of Suckers in the NSR, and as far as I am aware, I believe all of them can be caught in the Edmonton area.....

[-NDN-]

actually octane and i havent fished for about 4 months. and you should have edited out the left side of the photo of your secret walleye hole


almost 70% sure due to the quality of the pic you have a Shorthead Redhorse. But the long strip of fin on the top behind the larger taller portion is very Quillback like. if you have any better pose photos it will help to identify it better. if it was a Quillback, you have a nice thick one right there.

[sheephunter]

Good call ABwhitetail, the mouth had me fooled but I guess the dorsal fin should have been a give away. One heck of a fish!

[~Octane~]

Thanks guys, looking at it now it looks liek a quillback because of the fin..but it sure is a dark one.

NDN, left side? I didn't have to edit every single thing out lol..just a rough cover up...and also, definately not a shorthead...its got way to different of a dorsal fin...color is the same though. And I had the contest won before it even started :P

[-NDN-]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :D

[ABwhitetail]

The picture I provided was off the web, like most fish, I think color has to do a lot with the environment (water clarity, food, etc). I have caught ones that are similar to the one you caught Octane.....but I have seen them quite a bit more "silvery" too...

Your's looks like its got to be every bit of 17 or 18"....Great catch man!!!!

[SNAPFisher]

Very cool Octane! Regardless of species that is one heck of a nice fish. Way to go!

[SteveY66]

im sorry to make a fuzz but it eats me inside to see you edit out your pictures and especially call it a secret walleye hole.


Please dont post pictures like that because it makes me feel like im going to throw up.

This is a board to discuss about fishing and hunting not about your secrets

[catnthehat]

Well..I caught this last night at my secret walleye hole, I have seen him a couple times swimming around, and finally decided id try to catch him. Dont know what it is though, could be either a carp or quillback..almost looks more like a carp? Whatever they are tho, took me 15 minutes to land. How big do quillbacks get?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/perchfisher2/Openwater%202007/Edited_NSR_Carp.jpg

There are no seecret holes anywhere, only holes that are not well known....

Cat

[Roebag]

We all know that is a whistling trout

[Darrell]

you should have hired a professional to touch up the photo so it looked real???

[~Octane~]

Thanks guys, that fish was 63cm long and 50cm girth...they sure are solid.


steve - which is what i was doing..discussing what it was. its you who brought up the topic of 'secrets'..i only mentioned walleye hole for a reason why the pic was edited...on a side note..care to share your nsr walleye hole? Always was wondering where that was! thanks. lol

Darrell, I may be wrong but if what your trying to say is my photo is fake, ill just laugh ;)

[SteveY66]

Sure which one would you like east central or west edmonton?

[~Octane~]

well which one do u get the big walleye at? lol..and wuts the east central one?

[-NDN-]

hey Steve, dont worry about him, he's just using the "secret hole", trying to get me to bite, since i havent made the time to get outmyself and carry on with the little tourney we have going. :tongue2: :tongue2: this weekend, "GAME ON!!" :lol:

[Pigshanks]

The 3 main species of suckers in Alberta are

longnose sucker
white sucker
northern redhorse sucker

That one appears to be a white sucker, and a nice size one at that. I like to catch them in the South Sask River near the Hat. They can really put up a fight when they want to.

Grass carp were stocked in the mid 80's in some dugouts and ponds to control weed growth, and some may have been illegally transplanted, but those big***** lips tell be it is a sucker.

[sheephunter]

That one appears to be a white sucker, and a nice size one at that. I like to catch them in the South Sask River near the Hat. They can really put up a fight when they want to.


Nope....ABwhitetail was right on the money with his identification....it'a a quillback ..... Carpiodes cyprinus (Lesueur)

According to The Fishes of Alberta, they can reach a maximum size of around 66cm and a weight of 4.0-5.4 kg although it says that the largest verfied specimen in the North Saskatchewan River is 44cm. They are found in all the major river sysytems from the North Saskatchewan south to the Oldman.

Their Latin name actually means carp-like.

[ABwhitetail]

Wow Octane.....24"....that's a PIG....like I have said, I have caught them smaller and they fought....that one must have given you a tug or two.....

Congrats....

Now you just have to (if you haven't already) get your self a:

Silver Redhorse
Shorthead Redhorse
White
LongNose
and another tough one, the
Mountain Sucker

and you'll have yourself the NSR SUCKER GRANDSLAM!!

[-NDN-]

now ive seen it all. The Alberta Rough Fish GrandSlam:lol: :lol:

[SteveY66]

east edmonton central edmonton

i catch the big walleye right under the fort sask bridge.

[catnthehat]

That's thhe firrst pic I've ever seen of a quillback!
people have cought some strange stuff up here, like an 8lb. bulltrout at thee water treatment plant at Ft. Mcmurray, or tthe 6lb. laker at rhe barge terminal!

The guys must have got lost, seing's how they were hundreds of miles from where thhey should havve been.
That bull must have had a wild ride over the Athabasca falls, and every other big rapid on its way North!:lol:
Cat

[wake]

Quillback are very similar to Carp in looks.Smaller ones seem to be silverish and the larger they get they seem to develop this brownish color.Caught a few this year in the river,really seem to only take the dew worms and not leeches.

[Talking moose]

That’s not a quillback.

[Kurt505]

That’s not a quillback.

You tryin to sell something on the buy and sell or something, bringing a 13yr old thread to life? :fighting0030:

[Talking moose]

You tryin to sell something on the buy and sell or something, bringing a 13yr old thread to life? :fighting0030:

Haha! Nah, I was doing a bit of research on quilback (I’d like to catch one from the nsr) and forgot that I took a ride in the Delorean back to 2007..... lol.

[WayneChristie]

I think them carps things look like this funny perch I caught at Hermitage . or was that lake X. or Y. :confused: I cant remember I think my buddy Billy put something in my beer