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uplander
04-11-2010, 09:11 PM
HEy everyone I have a floating fly line so what type of leader/tippet and what lengths should I use to get down an deep for chironomid fishing at muir ??

WaterSkeeter
04-11-2010, 09:16 PM
HEy everyone I have a floating fly line so what type of leader/tippet and what lengths should I use to get down an deep for chironomid fishing at muir ??

How deep is the lake? you generally want the chironomid a foot of the bottom

uplander
04-11-2010, 09:22 PM
the deepest part is 18 ft but it generaly stays within 10-15 feet

DuckBrat
04-11-2010, 09:27 PM
A 12 foot leader will do fine. one fly at 8, one at 10, and one on point.

WaterSkeeter
04-11-2010, 09:31 PM
Start at a foot off the bottom, then if theirs no action there just trim your tippet a foot at a time and work your way up. Do you tye your own chironomids?

mad fisher
04-11-2010, 09:39 PM
They will take chronomids anywhere from the bottom to the top. Depends on what stage they are at.

also I have found that the best indicator to use is the Phil Rowley ones that unlock when the fish hits.

Otherwise you will have to stop fight the fish to get the indicator off if you are fishing way deeper than your rod length.

I lost a few fish and flies when doing this. But I haven't lost one since that I could say it was due to the indicator.

Also sometimes they like them to be moving...very slowly...other times it must be perfectly still.

Thats why they call it fishing.

Mad Fisher

Doc
04-11-2010, 09:40 PM
Here's some articles to help you out.

Midge Larva (Bloodworms) (http://www.albertastillwaters.com/overlookingmidgelarva.htm)

Hitchhikers Guide to Chironomids Part 1 (http://www.flycraftangling.com/index.asp?p=141&szArticleButtonCommand=view&nArticleID=12)

Hitchhikers Guide to Chironomids Part II (http://www.flycraftangling.com/index.asp?p=141&szArticleButtonCommand=view&nArticleID=13)

Cheers,
Doc

walking buffalo
04-11-2010, 11:07 PM
I'm gonna get in shyte for giving this one up, sorry Dave. :wave:

For deep water chrominid fishing, keep your boat anchored at both ends right on top of the spot you want to fish.

Using a full sink line, and a moderate length leader, say 10', this trick will get you to the right depth.

Clasp your hemostat to the fly, drop to the bottom, grab line at the water line and place a small removable or sliding strike indicator (the smaller the better) or a piece of yarn a foot or two below. I often don't use a strike indicator at all, just reel line in so there is no 'slack'. Pull up line to remove hemostat, and drop fly and line back down.

Make sense?

Your sinking line will be verticle to the rod, basically old school 'ni--er fishing'.

This technique is incredibly effective in deeper lakes, especially summertime days when the fish go deep.