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[Deer Hunter]

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[whitetail Junkie]

78" ???

[rielbowhunter]

Thats a good one,I would say White tail junkie is pretty close on the score.

[Donny Bear]

I think hes a little less mass is decent comes up around 15 & 6 or 7 the WTJ I bet is within 2 inches

Very Respectable Buck for sure

[ishootbambi]

high 70's. close to 80, but not quite im thinkin.

[AB2506]

I agree. 78-80, seriously doubt he would go over 80.

[Grand Slam]

I feel he don't have the mass to score in the high 70' s my guess is 75 to 77

[Jrbiggamehunter]

70 - 75 pretty light and besides antelope are a hard animal to judge on the hoove.

[echo]

I'd say 76"

[Rockymtnx]

Doesnt have a lot of mass.
Doesnt have a lot of hook. Doubt he will make 15". Probably closer to 13.5 - 14"
Base of the prongs start about 6" up the horn.
4" prongs

I am going to say 73" - 74"

[Walleyes]

Think Rocky nailed this one,, low to mid 70's.. Light on the mass and doesn't curl in much..

[bonedogg]

he is easily 16inches and I'm guessing he is over 80:fighting0030:

[sheephunter]

Looks like he's close to 16 inches but not quite I'd say. I'd say 76".

[bonedogg]

Doesnt have a lot of mass.
Doesnt have a lot of hook. Doubt he will make 15". Probably closer to 13.5 - 14"
Base of the prongs start about 6" up the horn.
4" prongs

I am going to say 73" - 74"

4 inch prongs? wow, very low guess

[Deer Hunter]

I would say around 78-80. He curves back and down and is fairly wide adding to the horn length. His prongs curve in good so lead me to think they are longer than they would seem in pics 2 and 3. His tops are broomsticks in pic 3and his mass is good throughout the bottoms too imo. The pics seem to wash out the mass he had when I was staring at him through the scope.

He's a pot bellied heavy bodied pig too, generally making the horns look smaller than they are.

[Mulestalker]

Hope you got an arrow in that guy Sat? ...good goat...now enough of the live shots..lets see those field photos..:scared0018:

[Deer Hunter]

Hope you got an arrow in that guy Sat? ...good goat...now enough of the live shots..lets see those field photos..:scared0018:

I ****ed around with that bastard for the better part of a week. He wouldnt decoy, and his does kept him safe. Hopefully some one finds him, puts him down and scores him.

Those are my only field photos... When are we making our tag soup?

[Rockymtnx]

he is easily 16inches and I'm guessing he is over 80:fighting0030:
Looks like he's close to 16 inches but not quite I'd say. I'd say 76".

Just curious on how you guys come up with 16”?
If the average antelope ear is 5-3/4” tall. The base of this guys prong would start approximately at 6 to 6-1/2”. (Pic# 2)
The top of the prong would be another 1” to 1-1/2” up the horn putting it at 8” in length. (Pic #2) Do you think there is really another 8” in length above the prong? I honestly can’t see it but maybe there is. I can see another 6” for sure……

[Rockymtnx]

4 inch prongs? wow, very low guess
Yes after revaluating the pictures I was low on these measurements.
I am going to say 5-1/2”.

[sheephunter]

Just curious on how you guys come up with 16”?



Ear is around 5-5.5". There is another 2-2.5" from base of prong to top of prong. After that he curls around decently, likely another 7-8", putting him between 15 and 16 inches.

My rule of thumb is that if the base of the prongs are above a fully erect ear, the buck is at least 15" if he has an average curl above. This guy has a decent curl. I'd say he's 15.5".

He's definately a great looking buck!

[Rockymtnx]

The top picture is of BB416’s recent archery antelope.
I would say that the mass below the prong is very similar on both BB416’s and Deer Hunter’s antelope.
BB416’s prongs measures 5-6/8” and 5-7/8”. Looking at the two I would think that BB416’s prongs are longer. What do you think?

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[whitetail Junkie]

The top picture is of BB416’s recent archery antelope.
I would say that the mass below the prong is very similar on both BB416’s and Deer Hunter’s antelope.
BB416’s prongs measures 5-6/8” and 5-7/8”. Looking at the two I would think that BB416’s prongs are longer. What do you think?

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/BrownBear416/025-2.jpg
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BB416 Goat has longer prongs but has shorter main beams than the buck thats still alive.

[Jrbiggamehunter]

he is easily 16inches and I'm guessing he is over 80:fighting0030:

Looks like he's close to 16 inches but not quite I'd say. I'd say 76".


What's with all you guys and looking at how tall the are that don't matter there score comes from there weight not there highth. A tall goat ain't gonna score if he has no weight to him!

[sheephunter]

What's with all you guys and looking at how tall the are that don't matter there score comes from there weight not there highth. A tall goat ain't gonna score if he has no weight to him!

Yup and that was taken into account in the score I guessed...:)

[Rockymtnx]

BB416 Goat has longer prongs but has shorter main beams than the buck thats still alive.
Yeah BB416’s antelope is probably 1-1/2” shorter under the prongs than Deer Hunter’s

[Deer Hunter]

The top picture is of BB416’s recent archery antelope.
I would say that the mass below the prong is very similar on both BB416’s and Deer Hunter’s antelope.
BB416’s prongs measures 5-6/8” and 5-7/8”. Looking at the two I would think that BB416’s prongs are longer. What do you think?


BB416's prongs appear longer. However the live one seems to have alot of curve in the prongs which are masked by the straight side profile picture you used to compare them.
Also, you can gain a 1/2" per side with a heavier main horn as the prong measurement comes from the back of the horn running outside along the curvature of the prong to the tip.

Regardless BB416's buck is a real beauty! How long were the horns?

The big difference here is that BB416 actually killed his and all I have is some lousy pictures to argue over. Poor me.

[hunterfisher]

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[Rockymtnx]

Regardless BB416's buck is a real beauty! How long were the horns?
13-3/4"

The big difference here is that BB416 actually killed his and all I have is some lousy pictures to argue over. Poor me.
Ahhh it still makes for good conversation and arguing though. ;)
After a lengthy ponder today I am going to give your antelope another 3” to my original guesstimate. 76 – 77”
Hey I would rather be given a hard time on underestimating an animal than over estimating it. :D

Is your archery season over?

[Donny Bear]

I think hes a little less mass is decent comes up around 15 & 6 or 7 the WTJ I bet is within 2 inches

Very Respectable Buck for sure

Well I am sticking with my original, like Sheephunter I see it less than 16 and do not believe it shares the same mass as BB416 under the cutter/prong and while it is longer below the prong it is shorter above the prong. It is a great animal but 76 is a good solid guesstemate. I also believe it has less mass above the prong to the effect of .75 per side.

[BrownBear416]

Well I am sticking with my original, like Sheephunter I see it less than 16 and do not believe it shares the same mass as BB416 under the cutter/prong and while it is longer below the prong it is shorter above the prong. It is a great animal but 76 is a good solid guesstemate. I also believe it has less mass above the prong to the effect of .75 per side.

x2

Great buck Deerhunter and thxs for sharing...

75-76 gross is where i would put it at.I have measured the ears on most of our AB speedgoats and they are all 5 inch.This buck looks to be 3 ear lengths.I think the buck has pretty decent mass below the prong but the real hit to his score would be prong length and above mass measurments..

Even if he was 16 inch in legth he would have to have 6 inch bases,6 inch second measurment,6 inch prong and 6 inch combined above mass measurments to make 80.

In saying that its hard enough to judge goats through a spotter let alone from a picture..:sign0068: