First time Coyote's [Archive] - Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum

rbirnie

11-19-2007, 06:59 PM

Hey guys, new to the board and new to the Coyote game:

I have a couple coyote's in the garage drying, this is the process I did for them, looking for any other tips or suggestions.

Shot 2 coyote's
Skinned them, put them on a stretcher, washed both sides with garden hose and a little Dawn. Did my best with fleshing, (weak point). Dries skin out for 20-24 hours, turned them hide out, combed with a fine wire brush.

I had a guy tell me instead of removing the ear cartilage, he just puts 2 slices from the base of the ear to the tip of the ear, then he pins them towards the eyes. I have had people tell me, no this is wrong, make sure to remove the cartilage. This guy tells me if you just cut them they will dry without removing them.

I am also told the adjustable stretchers are not recommended now. is this true, I do have solid wood ones but I sure like the adjustable's??????

Below are my first 2 dogs, click on image to enlarge I guess, can anyone see anything wrong with what I am doing. The one on the right I thought was pretty big????????

Thanks

rbirnie

11-19-2007, 07:10 PM

Here's some pictures:) :) :)

Bushmaster

11-19-2007, 08:05 PM

I don't remove the cartilages...just make sure there is no meat left on the ear butts. I pin the ears forward, as well. When you take them off the stretchers, snap them like you would a towel, it'll make the hair stand up better. And fleshing is a VERY important step. If you don't feel you did them good enough, you should try to improve on this particular step.

And I also use adjustable stretchers, just don't overstretch them, just pull the stretchers until they are taut.

Yours look fine.

AB2506

11-19-2007, 08:07 PM

I'm no expert, but the first furs I ever sent to auction last year averaged more than the auction average for western coyotes, so I assume I am doing something better than most.

I remove as much of the cartilage from the ear as I can. I then let the ears hang back flat. I used boards like yours. I also cut little boards to stick inside and pin down the front legs and to pin down the split tail.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p292/JimGratrix/Stretchedcoyotes006.jpg

I wash the hides after fleshing, in the laundry tub. I use cold water and dish soap. I keep hand washing until I no longer wring out pink water. After the hides are turned, I brush/fluff the fur with a pet brush.

Bushmaster

11-19-2007, 10:14 PM

AB2506, your coyotes look very nice. But a possible reason for higher than average price is the fact that you take them from Southern Alberta....they generally have better color from the south.

rbirnie

11-20-2007, 06:44 AM

Bushmaster

11-20-2007, 06:59 AM

Snares...hands down...they are working 24/7. They are cheap, easy to use and very effective, in the right hands.

Koshel

11-20-2007, 09:59 AM

x2. Although not as fun as calling, getting good at snaring is much more productive. With that being said, it takes a lot of trial and error of how to disguise the snares well and fool wily coyote (it did with me). Once you get experienced at it you begin to expect to catch coyotes vs. hoping to get them. As well, the deeper the snow the better it gets (opposite of calling).

Bushmaster

11-20-2007, 10:44 AM

Koshel, do you have any pics of your disguised snare sets, that you would be willing to share...even privately, if you prefer ?? I would find them interesting.

Koshel

11-20-2007, 03:13 PM

No, sorry, I don't have pics of "disguised snare sets". What I can tell you though is that it helps huge to set snares specifically where coyotes trails are pushing through light cover. For example, anytime a coyote pushes through light grass, rose bushes, etc. is a dynamite spot. I will often follow along a coyote trail for a ways to find spot such as this. They are expecting to feel something rubbing against their chest/shoulders, so they are likely to continue tightening the snare, plus the grass/twigs help to disguise them seeing the snare. With this being said, you have to dye the snare a preferably brownish black colour.
Another spot that works well is when coyotes have to go down a steep decline (i.e. coming down onto a creek or river). I seemed to have better success when setting on these declines, common sense saying that they be coming downward at a faster pace, less likely to notice the snare (never seen one come into a set from a below, so not sure how this works).
Sets on fences work well, and I don't think it is necessary to dye the snare, since they are expecting the metal colour.
NEVER walk across a coyote trail you are going to set on. If you have to,
jump over it.
And sometimes, regardless of how great your snare set is, that darn coyote will back out!

Koshel

11-20-2007, 03:18 PM

Not sure if you wanted all the info bushmaster (I thot it was the original threadstarter asking, not you), but I always enjoy sharing hunting and trapping tactics...my info is pretty much common sense.

Bushmaster

11-20-2007, 03:37 PM

It's always interesting to talk to fellow snarers...can use all the info I can get. I have been succesfully snaring for quite a few years now, mostly using bait piles. And usually find I don't even have to hide the snares at bait sites.

rbirnie

11-20-2007, 04:26 PM

Are you guys using ram powered snares or just normal snares. How do I make some. When you guys set snares on trails and paths, do you use bait or not????

Bushmaster

11-20-2007, 04:50 PM

98% of my snares are normal snares....homemade. The others have a kill spring attached and are used in wide open country.

You can buy all the supplies you need (or snares for that matter) at Halford Hide (Edmonton & Calgary) or Alberta Trappers Assn. in Westlock.

Buy a good set of cable cutters $20 - $30 and don't use them for anything else.

I usually snare at bait sites and select the trails coming to the bait....and use the other snares for trails well back from the bait.

Prdtrgttr

11-20-2007, 05:06 PM

Hey BM, thanks for the tips. I am just getting into snaring myself. However, I live in some fairly open country so finding good areas can be tricky. Do you degrease your snares, and prep them in something like Formula 1? How close to bait sites do you snare? Do the coyotes tend to avoid your areas after some have been caught? What do you use for bait?
I've been putting some rib cages, and a few dead pigs in an old farm stead that has rows of Carraganas around it. I've rigged all my snares with the Senneker kill springs. I am gonna set some snares there maybe tonight or tomorrow. How picky are you guys with scent and your snares? Rubber gloves?
Thanks for your advice gentlemen.

Bushmaster

11-20-2007, 05:26 PM

Pg, I have lots of bush areas around here so thats where set the baits and hang my snares. I use 2 trees on either side of the trail.....the snare attached to one and the opposite tree is the one that makes the setup lethal...once they wrap around the 2nd tree its over.

I boil them in baking soda for a bit to degrease them, but handle them with bare hands.

I use butcher shop scraps for bait.

The only time I use Marty's kill spring is on a wide open trail....and then the snare is 10' long or more.

Prdtrgttr

11-20-2007, 05:47 PM

Bushmaster, What do you mean by a wide open trail? And, how would you hang your snare in that situation? Is your snare 10ft, or does this include a lead?
Thanks

Bushmaster

11-20-2007, 06:35 PM

I mean no bush around...that is what makes a snare lethal...and you want them dead as quick as possible.

And I'll try to take a pic tomorrow of my setup.

Lead or 10' snare...same diff, I guess...you just want the coyote to get far enough away from your stake that he is pulling sideways, not up.

And with the 10', he should be able to get a good run at it so your snare lock can do its job quickly.

Prdtrgttr

11-20-2007, 10:21 PM

Hmmm, cool, I am looking forward to the pics. Thanks Bushmaster. I set 5 snares tonight, so I'll keep you posted too. How far/close do you set to your bait?

Bushmaster

11-21-2007, 07:47 AM

Here's a coupla snares that I consider to be in the open, that is, not chance for entanglement....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/akabushmaster/mule0108303B.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/akabushmaster/b4a002.jpg

And here's the stake I use....but ONLY after the ground is frozen !! As its only 12" long.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/akabushmaster/mule0108295.jpg

Prdtrgttr

11-21-2007, 08:42 AM

Great Photos! :D Thanks for sharing. Is that 9 gauge wire that suspends your snare in the open?
And once again, what's the closest you will set your snare to the bait.
Thanks!

Bushmaster

11-21-2007, 12:38 PM

I have caught them as close as 3' from a bait but you are usually asking for problems from magpies, ravens, etc. this close. They knock the snares down.....I've actually caught a magpie....tells me snares drop pretty fast.

It isn't 9 gauge, I think thats old telephone wire....but anything that works....#9 is a bit hard for me to wrestle with....I just now found some copper(I think) that is strong yet very malleble.

Bushmaster

11-21-2007, 12:40 PM

This is what most of my setups look like...the smaller trees allow for easy entanglement and a quick choke down.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/akabushmaster/yoters026.jpg

rbirnie

11-21-2007, 07:32 PM

Well I attempted to make a snare, ummm I used the bent flat washer thingy for the lock, I used #10 nuts for the crimpers. The only problem I have is how to keep the snare suspended in the air, what do you guys use to hold the snare to the support wire???? Also when you do attach the support wire to the snare, I just hold it with my fingers, the snare actually wiggles down to a small size if you shake it a bit, wondering if wind would do this also. Do you guys use the same cable (3/32) as the leesh to, just make a snare say out of 10 feet of this cable, put the snare loop at one end, and the anchor at the other. If I could see a good close up picture of a snare, it would help a lot. Thanks for any help guys.

Sorry for the million questions

Prdtrgttr

11-21-2007, 07:50 PM

No trouble with the questions, that's what these forums are all about.
My snare is 1/16 cable about 5-6ft long, you attach these to a lead, which can be 5, 6, even up to 10ft long depending on what's available to attach to.
The lead has a swivel on the end of it, the idea of the lead is to allow the animal off the trail, to the side,so you can re-set there, and, you don't use as much snare cable either.

I don't have any pics of the snares, maybe later, I'll take some and post them

Your snares sound like they're made right. You'll need collars,I believe mine are 3/32 collars, some fellows, use transparent plastic too, about a 1" piece, this would be like a sheath right on your snare cable. These collars are above your locks, they are to hang your snares and prevent them from closing. I am using 9gauge wire from UFA to hang mine, you put a little kink in the end of the wire so that the wire points up, this makes the snare hang up, instead of down, which would make it close.
Hope this helps and good luck to you.

Bushmaster

11-21-2007, 07:58 PM

Here's what part of my snares look like. The lock is a 3/32 camlock and the "s" hook is what's known as a BAD...break away device......they are diesingned so a coyote can't usually pull them open but a deer usually can.

Hang your snares in the one o'clock or 2 o'clock position to keep the wind from setting them off.

If you're not sure how to make the washer type locks, I'm not sure how well they are going to work for you .

You need to find someone in your area to help you out.

The locks have to close and get tighter and tighter, never letting off, to be effective. If they're not, your coyote is going to get away.

By the way, the plastic tubing used to hold your snares to the support wire is called a whammy.

If you buy some camlocks, they are reuseable...but the snare cable will be ruined after your first catch.

Bushmaster

11-21-2007, 08:00 PM

Just wondering, how old are you guys ??

Prdtrgttr

11-21-2007, 08:16 PM

You first! :)

Bushmaster

11-21-2007, 08:31 PM

I'm 54.

Prdtrgttr

11-21-2007, 08:38 PM

38, first time trapper/snarer, I guess. Long time coyote hunter! :)

rbirnie

11-22-2007, 06:37 AM

27 years old

rbirnie

11-23-2007, 05:14 PM

AB2506

11-23-2007, 07:51 PM

My friend blames me for getting flea bites when he helped drag a coyote out of a coulee. Funny, I wasn't bitten and I carried it for a mile. He only helped up the final 200 yards of the bank. Wimp! Maybe his dogs' fleas got him?

I just put the coyotes in a bag and spray them, whether bleeding or not. You should wash them anyways. I heard some people stuff kleenex into the bullet holes?

Bushmaster

11-23-2007, 08:00 PM

Usually, I make the first cut and then spray the fleas...the cut seems to bring them all to surface......the bites seem to bother some people and not others ??

And around here, the only thing that eats the carcasses are magpies and ravens.

rbirnie

11-23-2007, 10:02 PM

So Bushmaster, you don't put them in the garbage bag????And spray let them sit??

Thanks

Bushmaster

11-24-2007, 06:32 AM

Yes, I used to put them in a bag but gave it up. If the coyote is at all warm when you do it, the fleas don't even know their host is dead yet. I make the knee thru anus to knee cut...you'll see the fleas come to the ends of the hair to see whats going on....have the raid ready and let them have it. In 10 minutes, you're good to go...

rbirnie

11-24-2007, 12:49 PM

What kind of percentage have fleas????? 85% - 90% or all of them.

Bushmaster

11-24-2007, 12:51 PM

All of them....and fox seem to be worse !!

I catch maybe 1 fox to 10 or 15 coyotes.

rbirnie

11-24-2007, 01:00 PM

Do you remove bottom lip??????????

Thanks Bushmaster

Bushmaster

11-24-2007, 01:14 PM

Yes....cut if off when you skin them, not after you take them off the board.

Once they are dry and you cut them, they leave a sharp edge and they won't like it when they go to tumble them.

rbirnie

11-24-2007, 05:16 PM

oh, crap, didn't know that, I havn't cut any lips off yet. I will certainly start doing that though.

Another question.

My trapping buddy says to tie a small string arouond the base of the tail, then pull softly to the end of the board, tie it off, this helps to stretch the left over slack on the back. Do you guys like this idea or not.
P.S not a tight stretch, just a little, I quite doing this, for the last couple, because the weight of my little tail pinning board is doing about the same. Just wondering.

I don't, I think I may be a little bit too worried about getting docked too much. I would just be heart broken if all my hard work on these dogs resulted in $20 bucks a piece. I really enjoy doing it, but the little extra cash is also nice too.

Bushmaster

11-24-2007, 05:51 PM

The tail board is likely enough....I don't tie the tails down.

Do you wash and dry your hides ??

rbirnie

11-24-2007, 07:51 PM

Here's what I do, After skinning, I get the garden hose out, wash both inside and out untill all pink water is removed(with a little dawn)and all the crap is off, and everything else. Then what I do is, turn him fur out, put him on my drying board, get my shop vac out, put it on blow, and blow all the water from the fur, then turn him skin out, keep blowing all water off skin side. Then I throw him on my homemade fleshing post that needs some revamping. Flesh him/her. Then I board skin out for 15-24 hours pending on temp in the old garage. I turn him fur out, split both ears from base to tip, let dry for 24 - 36 hours, then pin his ears forward. I then let them sit on the stretchers untill I need that one or 6 days at the least.

WhiskeyJack

11-26-2007, 10:06 AM

The fox this year have thousands of fleas. The coyotes have some. I wear gloves when skinning and the fleas are just brushed off. I would rather deal with the fleas than smelling raid. There are a couple of diseases that are associated with wolves and coyotes and gloves are a good idea.

I skin in the calving pastures or in the barn and then place the hide in a white garbage bag tie it off and place in in the freezer. I dump carcasses back on the line and generally add them to bait piles. This way I can flesh later on and the fleas are all dead and there is no carcuss when I get home.

After they are fleshed bloody pelts are washed in laundry soap and cool water, wrung out and left to drip for an hour or so then boarded with skin out for 8-10 hours untill dry but not hard, turned fur out brushed heavy and let dry for week.

For the ears and boards here are some guidelines from the auction http://www.furharvesters.com/PDF/pelthandling.pdf

Prdtrgttr

11-26-2007, 06:15 PM

Rbirnie, one of the best things to use for coyotes, is a large, 118Litre Rubbermaid tub. It fits in the back of your truck, you can line the bottom with kitty litter for blood soaking, I've had up to 5 coyotes in it at once. It's inexpensive,and contains the blood, a great spot to contain the raid, to kill the fleas, and it keeps dead coyotes away from prying eyes. :)

rbirnie

11-26-2007, 07:24 PM

WhiskeyJack

11-27-2007, 08:00 PM

Prdtrgttr

11-27-2007, 08:18 PM

Sorry Rbirnie, it's actually the 189Litre Rubbermaid tub, you can get them at Wal-mart or Canadian Tire.

WhiskeyJack

11-27-2007, 08:25 PM

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mountainman elkohalic

11-29-2007, 01:45 PM

Nice pic there whiskeyjack is that this years or last would look good in my blanket lol that's what i'm going to do with my coyotes . anybody out there know of any really good places to get them sewed together

trouble

12-04-2007, 06:31 PM

i just started coyote snaring as of 2 days ago and i got two coyotes today,im using steaks going to extensions(4 foot long)then my snare this allows for the coyote to hit the snare then start running and get some speed before it hit the tight spot. I am wondering if you guys use the same snares over and over or if you do it the easy way and cut them off the coyote and peg, then buy new ones and just reattach them to the peg again.

Bushmaster

12-04-2007, 07:12 PM

Most snares are ruined after a catch.....snares are considered a one time only deal.....I make mine and put a new one on after a catch.

trouble

12-04-2007, 08:35 PM

thanks thats good cause thats what i did today one coyote jumped through the nare so it was around his waist gave a good enough struggle the snare was all permanently bent.Bush master earlier in the forum you talked of utting your snares in the open what trails do you look for cuz in the open in my backyard where i snare they seem to not care much for trails they roam where they please

trouble

12-04-2007, 09:18 PM

apart from setting snares out in hte open wheres you preffered place to buy snares i live in medicine hat SE corner of alberta

kyle6969

12-11-2007, 10:01 AM

how many coyotes do you average a winter out here?

Bushmaster

12-11-2007, 12:23 PM

trouble, they follow cow trails or natural game trails...sometimes very faint...or you can make your own trails with a quad or skidoo. They like to follow the easiest way....

Snare supplies can be bought at Halford Hide or the Alberta Trappers Assn. in Westlock. Halfords are in both Edmonton and Calgary....Ive never been in the Calgary store so not sure what they stock but Edmonton has a good stock and ships very quickly.

buck

01-26-2009, 08:12 PM

awsome info on here guys what is the odds of seeing some pics posted of some thing other then just coyotes as they seem to be the most common pic posted
if possible maybe lnyx wolves marten and fishers on and off the boards as well
it has always amazed me when a grown man stands beside something on a board just how long some animals are
on a side note how big of an area do lynx travel in?
one area i know in about a 5mile radius i find a lot of lynx tracks and have only seen one in 10 years but outside of this area i don't find many tracks just curious on this
i used to spend hours helping my grandpa check his traps when i was little and got to watch him skin mink muskrat and beaver before he died he taught me how to skin coon and fox but have never taken up trappping on my own since moving to alberta 15 years ago i havent done any of it but love seeing the results and hearing the stories about it all
good luck all

AlbertaAl

01-27-2009, 07:57 AM

Takes me 5 minutes to skin a coyote!
Takes me 30 minutes to flesh
Use an automatic washing machine to wash
Takes me about 10 minutes to strectch it out

http://i39.tinypic.com/2wqwm8l.jpg

DairyMan7

02-12-2009, 02:01 PM

I learnt a good way to flesh out the ears a long time ago........when your skinning and get to the ears......use your fingers to get that little pocket/hole on top of the head....then use something cylindrical....like a larger screw driver...and put it through the hole and grab the handle and the end of the screw driver and apply steady pressure down wards.....you will flesh the ears out nicely.....

This method was past down from a trapper in eastern ontario..who traps hundreds of coyotes a year and it was past down to him from a trapping trip he took to Australia....those aussies skin a lot of foxes let me tell you

Hey any body got any good tips on calling...i've been using that yu-ti caller it sounds great.....to me.....not so much to the coyotes i guess cause i haven't called any in.......

Benjamin

02-17-2009, 09:04 PM

handling snares with bare hands ???? wow!!!! does that not leave any sent on the snare?

Benjamin

02-17-2009, 09:22 PM

Here's what I do, After skinning, I get the garden hose out, wash both inside and out until all pink water is removed(with a little dawn)and all the crap is off, and everything else. Then what I do is, turn him fur out, put him on my drying board, get my shop vac out, put it on blow, and blow all the water from the fur, then turn him skin out, keep blowing all water off skin side. Then I throw him on my homemade fleshing post that needs some revamping. Flesh him/her. Then I board skin out for 15-24 hours pending on temp in the old garage. I turn him fur out, split both ears from base to tip, let dry for 24 - 36 hours, then pin his ears forward. I then let them sit on the stretchers until I need that one or 6 days at the least.

try and get an old hoover washing machine it's got a side washer and a spinner they are great

pitw

02-18-2009, 06:57 AM

Doesn't bother them much if at all and I can't explain that.

South west trappin RG

09-15-2009, 09:54 PM

the way the auctions want them is the ears pinned forward short legges in the front a little longer in the back and no lower jaw. they like the dawn

SDKiller

10-31-2009, 09:20 PM

Hello all, I was wondering if anyone would be able to take the time to show me how to build, set, and trap coyotes. I have a quarter section of land near Breton with about 70 acres of forrest with a ton of coyotes in the area. I will be shooting as many as I can this year but want to trap as well. Of course for the trade you can keep the dogs. The know how is all I want for now. In total I have 5 quarters to hunt on all in the same block with no worries of farm dogs getting caught. ( I hope ).

KBF

11-01-2009, 09:56 PM

As for trapping, pretty sure you have to have a trappers license.Hunting them will probably be the most productive. A good predator call and the being smart about how you setting up to call.Also great practice. Good luck

KI-UTE

11-17-2009, 09:55 PM

So... how long do we have to look at this post for???

I am quite bored with it. Lots more other animals to trap than coyotes.

Eastern Trapper

12-14-2009, 03:17 PM

If your in it for the money, trapping is the way to go, if your in it for the port hunting then you have your answer, my philosophy is that you do a lot of damage to the fur when it's shot unless your a real good marksman.

Eastern Trapper

12-14-2009, 03:24 PM

well I wish I could be there to help you out. There's different ways to trap and hunt cayotes, I found the best way is to set a bait trap, find a heavy bush area that is open all around near a field or simillar, put bait in the middle, clean out about 6 to 8 trail about a foot wide, but not straight, make them look natural as much as you can, then about 10 to 20 feets from your bait set the snares, I prefer using power ram with the snares, it really does the job on them, but not neccessary. set you snare about 6 to 8 inches off the ground. in an area that you have I would set bout 10 stations and maintain them well everyday, you'll enjoy the results.

whitecourtwolverine

12-25-2009, 09:26 PM

whitetail boy

03-16-2010, 07:08 PM

2 quick question for you guys???????

1. Fleas, when I shoot a coyote, (pending on how bad he is bleeding) I usually put him in a garbage bag, and spray raid in there. This is what I was told, He he is bleeding too bad to put in a garbage bag, I hang him up, then spray raid on him, wait 45min or so, then skin. Just wondering if this how everyone takes care of the fleas????Can a human get fleas from a coyote????

2. Carcass, when I am done skinning, I usually plant the carcass's in the bush, somewhere where I can only find it. This is the first place I go in the morning's to get my first dog of the day. I have not had anything eat them other than raven's, Will coyote's eat there own skinned species, or am I wasteing my time going here and doing this???????? I thought I can use this as kinda bait maybe?????? I usual split them open when I discard of them to make them stink good??????????

Thanks again for any comments or advice with these questions:)

i do the same most of the time or if u cant skinn them fresh and the coyote freezes that will kill the flease
i have got fleas from coyotes but they only last for 2 or 3 showers it u have a bath and put your head under water that helps. but they arnt much to wory about.

and this year i sent 126 hides to the sale i only traped 24 of them and only one was in a leg hold
snares are normaly beter for me untill this year where i found a spot that the coyotes where coming off of a feedlot dead pile and going to the creek i avreged 5 coyotes a day in this spot when the wind was right.

and one question what do u guys use for coyotes i use a 22-250

whitetail boy

03-16-2010, 07:10 PM

What do you guys do with your coyotes? We want to start hunting coyotes but I don't have a clue what to do with them once we get one. Whats a good source to learn how to skin a coyote? Tanning? I'm thinking I would just want to hang them on the wall.

if u take your traping course which you need to have if u wana set snares that is a good way to learn
and taning can cost any where from 55 buck to 100

sasktapper

12-10-2010, 10:18 AM

yah I would sugesst snare as they work all day and all you have to do is set them and check then often (once a day at least)
good luck with getting more coyotes

killer corr

12-26-2010, 08:22 PM

So in everyone's opionon, whats the easiest way to bag coyote's?????

Predator Calling
or
Trapping and snaring

I have been doing alot of calling, but I may consider setting some snares,pending on cost of supplies and equipment.

Im new to your site and to trapping. I have hunted coyote's all my life and shoot 15 to 25 a year not trying hard . i just started trapping and had 25 coyotes in less than a month and a half. So i say snairing is the cheepest and fastest way to kill k9's.

killer corr

12-26-2010, 08:27 PM

i do the same most of the time or if u cant skinn them fresh and the coyote freezes that will kill the flease
i have got fleas from coyotes but they only last for 2 or 3 showers it u have a bath and put your head under water that helps. but they arnt much to wory about.

and this year i sent 126 hides to the sale i only traped 24 of them and only one was in a leg hold
snares are normaly beter for me untill this year where i found a spot that the coyotes where coming off of a feedlot dead pile and going to the creek i avreged 5 coyotes a day in this spot when the wind was right.

and one question what do u guys use for coyotes i use a 22-250

I find everything loves coyote . I throw mine on the bait pile and the coyotes eat them first.

densa44

01-04-2011, 03:50 PM

Is there a you tube video of this? I'd like to see one. Thx

paulyisit73

01-05-2012, 06:52 PM

hey anyone.... I just started dog hunting myself.... Would be very interested in snaring also. Do I need special license for that. And is there a good web site to go look at as to how to make GOOD snares?? Is there a bounty on yoties this year, and if so how much??? I have so many coyoties where I live its crazy. Any help would be fantastic... thanks guys

cuttrap

01-24-2012, 08:43 AM

Washing the pelts seem like a good idea. I always wash the area were most of the blood is but i think washing of the pelts is a better idea. comb them quite freq also. When i recieve my pelt assesment or rateing of my pelts i have never lost money because of ear cartlege. I leave it in. my uncle skins them out . I think its about preference. for flees i spry raid in a big black garbage bag then pull it up over the dog tieing it on top. this works well. I recently just joined this site love it alot of good ideas. good info. Thanks.

noisy mouse

01-24-2012, 09:24 AM

Fleas i can handle, but what do you do with the mangey ones?

draft

02-08-2012, 08:30 PM

Fr Sask. the yotes around here are cannibals.

Steveo1

02-11-2012, 08:48 AM

so what do you guys do with the meat after? how long can you wait before drying out the pelts? Does a guy make those stretch boards or did you guys buy them?

wrenchmonkey

02-21-2012, 08:50 PM

I'm 31. hunted my whole life. just started trapping three weeks ago. all in leg holds. apparently I suck at snares. lol. but Ive put 14 dogs on the stretchers in the last three weeks. not all trapped but some shot. I love the trapping though. very interested in the snaring info. thanks guys.

dj_pigs

02-22-2012, 03:57 AM

I think this would help,
http://www.nafa.ca/trapper/Resources/NAFA_PeltHandlingManual_2009.pdf

Johnog12345

04-08-2012, 12:51 AM

nice looking pelts i dont see anything wrong alot of people leave the cartilege i personly take it out its just how i was tought after u have the coyote skinned if u take and hook a pail of pliers on the cartilage and give a good pull it will seperate from the ear this takes some practice thou dont expect the first few dogs to come out with full ears but dont wory about that i got the same price for the ones with half ears when i started as the ones with full ears

KegRiver

04-08-2012, 01:46 AM

so what do you guys do with the meat after? how long can you wait before drying out the pelts? Does a guy make those stretch boards or did you guys buy them?

I leave the carcass for the magpies. it's fitting.

The hide should be stretched and dried ASAP, within 24 hours in most cases, or frozen.

I make my own boards. I have never found a commercial made stretcher that I liked.

I make mine a lot more complicated the necessary, because I build a flat hinge instead of using a leather strap to hold the two halves together.

The leather works but I find they limit or hinder board movement and they can allow the two boards to fold together like a book. Not good.

I make a flat plywood hinge that would work similar to the black hinge in this photo,
http://www.hunthinges.com/images/medical-600.jpg

Sorry, I don't have a photo of my hinge and all my boards are up north in my trapping shack.

wrenchmonkey

04-15-2012, 08:37 PM

Question; Ive got lots of coyotes with fleas and they don't bother me. The raid and a garbage bag works well for them, but I got four in the latter part of the season that had something else. they were matted badly and one in particular was worse than the others and was absolutely crawling with some tiny white bugs of some kind. looked like a louse perhaps don't know. Almost like tinny white spiders. still makes my skin crawl just thinking about it. lol. I tried to do one but after skinning I couldn't wash him clean and he stunk terribly . probably rolled in something dead to stop the itch i'm thinking. Does anybody know what the bugs are?

Davi54rOv

06-25-2012, 11:47 PM

snares,pendinghttp://www.progtours.info/jie8.jpg

IAMBREAD

01-14-2013, 06:58 PM

For any of you new folk check out Marty SENNEKER's website (google it) lots of gear and info.

elkhunterll

12-02-2013, 02:46 PM

Are there any trapping shows coming to town?

john316

02-14-2014, 12:35 PM

:angry3:Hey guys, new to the board and new to the Coyote game:

I have a couple coyote's in the garage drying, this is the process I did for them, looking for any other tips or suggestions.

Shot 2 coyote's
Skinned them, put them on a stretcher, washed both sides with garden hose and a little Dawn. Did my best with fleshing, (weak point). Dries skin out for 20-24 hours, turned them hide out, combed with a fine wire brush.

I had a guy tell me instead of removing the ear cartilage, he just puts 2 slices from the base of the ear to the tip of the ear, then he pins them towards the eyes. I have had people tell me, no this is wrong, make sure to remove the cartilage. This guy tells me if you just cut them they will dry without removing them.

I am also told the adjustable stretchers are not recommended now. is this true, I do have solid wood ones but I sure like the adjustable's??????

Below are my first 2 dogs, click on image to enlarge I guess, can anyone see anything wrong with what I am doing. The one on the right I thought was pretty big????????

Thanks

5911ryan

03-29-2014, 06:32 PM

Hey guys. I just read this thread and will try to answer a bunch of questions I seen posted.
Fleas: Hang them up by a hind leg and spray the whole animal. If you are spraying them in a bag, make sure you spray both sides, not just into the bag. All fox and coyotes have fleas and the healthier the animal, the more fleas it has. Fleas are actually a good thing on coyotes and fox, they're just a pain in the butt for us. Yes the canine fleas WILL bite humans and your domestic dogs.
Carcasses: Coyotes are not typically cannibalistic, but during the dead of winter they will eat whatever they can, including themselves. It's not their first choice buy beggars can't be choosers.
Skinning, fleshing and boarding canines: I can type thousands of words and never explain it properly. Watch my videos on YouTube on skinning, fleshing and boarding coyotes. There are 3 videos, each dealing with each aspect of putting up coyotes. My channel is 5911ryan
Catching coyotes: Again, I have videos up showing how I bait, where I set and what type of cover I'm looking for.
Hopefully I've added a few constructive thoughts to this. Ryan

olddog1959

04-03-2014, 08:17 PM

very interesting read thanks to all of you

Whitetail200

05-29-2014, 08:53 PM

There's a lot of good talk about the use of snares which I will have to get more knowledge of setting better, but can any one tell me if they know someone or use the J.C Conners Heavy Duty T-Bar Shock Spring on their trap chains . I am thinking of purchasing some instead of a smaller type spring . Wondering how they work . Thanks

saskmuledeer

06-11-2014, 11:25 AM

I have used snares in the past. I usually used them around bait. Still born lambs work well but you have to have a method of keeping them in place. I found that if you set up around burnt straw bales and then had one or two unburnt ones there that worked great for foxes. Once the foxes were around the occasional coyote would venture in. All of this was in southern Alberta. Since moving to Saskatchewan I have not resumed my trapping activities so things may have changed.

JPGLADNEY

01-05-2015, 07:58 PM

any of you guys wanna buy 8 frozen coyotes hanging in my shead?

Lefty-Canuck

01-05-2015, 08:00 PM

any of you guys wanna buy 8 frozen coyotes hanging in my shead?

Not sure who all here has fur buyers license.

LC

Daslogster

01-20-2015, 08:42 PM

As I found out trying to buy raw fox, you need a fur buyers license for raw fur. You cannot advertise raw fur for sale and when I have given yotes to the hutterites in the past, they have "gifted" a pair of gloves etc. Can't buy without a license.

winsomelosesome

11-18-2015, 02:48 PM

very nice... great job

PINEHURST-PIKE-FREAK

01-19-2016, 01:32 PM

my neighbor has a feed lot and i see 5-10 coyotes everytime by his "buffet" he calls it,I have permission to shoot. How can I sell them legally and how much can I expect to get for them?

HunterDave

01-19-2016, 07:35 PM

my neighbor has a feed lot and i see 5-10 coyotes everytime by his "buffet" he calls it,I have permission to shoot. How can I sell them legally and how much can I expect to get for them?

You need to find someone with a fur buyer's license. I have one and buy whole dogs but I'm in Morinville. I'm pretty sure that there's a guy buying whole dogs in Bonnyville but I don't know his name. Don't expect to get a lot of money for a shot dog, maybe enough to pay for your ammo and gas. Good luck.

paulyisit73

02-14-2016, 02:05 AM

HunterDave

02-14-2016, 12:06 PM

Hey I was just wondering if anyone has some advice 4 me. I'm just starting 2 get set up 2 stretching an fleshing my own hides. Where in central alberta can I go to purchase a knives? Or online I guess will work too. I know ppl say go with a cheaper knives to start with so I don't slice my hide in half lol. Any suggestions? ? Thanks k

Paul, pick yourself up an inexpensive paring knife for $7 and a steel to sharpen it with and keep it sharp. Except for the initial cuts, the front legs and the head, most of your skinning should be done just by pulling the pelt down. You can buy a cheap fleshing knife from Halfords for about $25.

paulyisit73

02-14-2016, 06:10 PM

Great... thanks. I been hunting 4 30 some years so I have lots of knives an I do know how to skinn stuff lol so it looks pretty easy that way. I have a GOOD little bunny knife that I will probably use. Just need to know WHERE to go to buy a fleshing knife. Thanks 4 the info Dave

J0HN_R1

03-09-2016, 04:16 PM

I'm not a Trapper, but this was the first coyote I (managed to) save the pelt.

I made a mess of this guy, two entry holes / one 8" exit across the neck&shoulder area and one 1" exit hole / and blew 1 of his back legs off. I even managed to catch the last 3" of his tail, shot it off too !

I sewed his neck up, but initially missed the 2nd exit hole on the opposite side. It's about an inch wide hole.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/johnr1/image_zpsdugx0icv.jpeg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/johnr1/image_zpswqxt6ton.jpeg

J0HN_R1

11-23-2017, 02:47 PM

Wow... Came to check this thread out to find a fur buyer near Calgary. Didn't realize I was the last one to post here, and almost 18 months ago !

I've got 5 (good) dogs skinned & hanging, about to process another one... 2 of them are 4ft nose-to-base of tail, everything else is over 34".

https://i.imgur.com/rgJhKCB.jpg