Fish cops

[Geezle]

Is the term 'Fish cop' derogatory?

[sheepguide]

Im sure they like it better than some things they have been called or reffered to as!!:)

SG

[MathewsArcher]

Duck Dick (as in detective) isn't likely any better:sHa_sarcasticlol:

[Geezle]

Im sure they like it better than some things they have been called or reffered to as!!:)

SG

Ha! Fair enough :lol:

I think if I was a hunter I'd see them more as 'fish and wildlife' but since I only see them in the context of fishing, I always think 'fish cop' though I do make an effort to try to use the 'fish and wildlife' title :)

[nicemustang]

I don't think it's that bad, but I still always say F&W.

[Albertadiver]

There's some people that get thier nose out of joint when a person uses the term Game Warden because it's technically not correct.

I personally don't feel fish cop is derrogatory. It's a slang, but not a big deal to me.

[Okotokian]

What are the SRD guys actually really called? I know the parks guys that do the job are Conservation Officers, but SRD?

[Kokanee9]

If you don't know what to call them, just call them Hello. Pretend they all have the same name.

:bad_boys_20:

[BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES]

What are the SRD guys actually really called? I know the parks guys that do the job are Conservation Officers, but SRD?

SRD is (Sustainable Resource Development) Its the government department . It consists of forestry , fish and wildlife and I think parks .

Fish and wildlife officers - Patrol everywhere including provincial parks .
Conservation officers - Patrol provincial parks .

Hope this helps Okotokian.

[Daceminnow]

face to face, i call them Mister. in conversation with other fisherman i use "fish cops" with other hunters "fur & feathers" never had a problem, with the exception of the odd young guy trying to earn his stripes. like anything be respectful and you'll be shown respect.

[HunterDave]

If I'm referring to them to a buddy then I use the term Fish Cop or Fish & Feathers. If I'm talking to a Fish & Wildlife Officer that is the term that I use. I don't consider referring to someone as a Fish Cop derogatory but to call them that when talking to them is impolite/disrespectful IMO.

[Jiffy10]

Those guys .... and most law officials ......are pretty thick skinned !

Your not going to hurt their feelings much regardless of what you call them.
They've heard it all from Fish Cops to Wood Narcs and everything in between. Most times they are just as excited as you are that someone is
fishing or hunting . The rules are pretty clear and written for everyone to see so keep your nose clean and any time you run into them , it should all be good. They can usually tell you where the fish are biting etc.
I appreciate the Bull Crap they have to put up with in order to keep my
fishin habits clean and under control. Like most enforcement jobs... its a thankless one and the good that they do is often hidden from site but when
they find an issue during a routine stop, then we call them the fish cops.

If your not part of the solutions..... your part of the problem

I wouldnt have it any other way......

[tacklerunner]

SRD is (Sustainable Resource Development) Its the government department . It consists of forestry , fish and wildlife and I think parks .

Fish and wildlife officers - Patrol everywhere including provincial parks .
Conservation officers - Patrol provincial parks .

Hope this helps Okotokian.

I knew you'd clarify that BBJ when I saw this post as you have so many times before. Thanks again... I never remember the difference. Police don't mind being called COPS so I doubt F&W and COs would. I have the habit of calling them all COs. Perhaps a F&W officer might be more offended being called a CO? Like mentioned previously, I think they would deem any of these terms acceptable compared to what they have been called at times.

[thepyrofish]

Police don't mind being called COPS so I doubt F&W and COs would.

Not all police think this way. My wife's got a family member who is an RCMP constable who think the workd cop is incredibly disrespectful. :confused:

[Albertadiver]

When speaking with any sort of LEO, I always address them as 'Sir'. Unless I'm dealing with huntinstuff, in which case I use 'Grandmaster-of-all-things-law-related-and-most-elequant-orator'.

[tacklerunner]

Not all police think this way. My wife's got a family member who is an RCMP constable who think the workd cop is incredibly disrespectful. :confused:

You're right I didn't mean to generalize. Those I know call themselves Cops when asked what they do; RCMP & City Police. But that's just them. No offence or disrespect intended.

[bubba 96]

Not all police think this way. My wife's got a family member who is an RCMP constable who think the workd cop is incredibly disrespectful. :confused:


But cop is an akronim(spelling) short for "constables on patrol", I would think this is not too disrespectfull..imo

[tacklerunner]

But cop is an akronim(spelling) short for "constables on patrol", I would think this is not too disrespectfull..imo

Maybe it's "citizens on patrol" some don't appreciate. They are trained and are not regular citizens like you or I. Plus they earn their rank such as Constable. Don't think it applies to F&W Officers or COs as they are all Officers.. I think. But I suppose there are Supervisors etc.

[coorslight]

i heard some call them sea pigs id even be mad

[35 whelen]

i think cop came copper badges they used to wear in the 1900 hundreds

[Pudelpointer]

In my mind a "Fish Cop" is a DFO enforcement officer. In BC they are referred to as "CO" because they are Conservation Officers. Here we have Conservation Officers (parks) and Fish and Wildlife Officers (everywhere else).

I have taken to calling them SRD Officers, as COs work for Parks.

[QIsley]

I don't think it is derogatory. LOL :)

[Geezle]

I don't think it is derogatory. LOL :)

Good to know :)

[Dust1n]

Fish Pigs*** the pester me at sylvan lake comming to check on me sometimes 4-5 times a day isnt that redonkulas? well at sylvan alot of people dostuped stuff like keeping alot of walleye and throwing/punting the fish in soo i guess it is needed but if your there fishn i dont think i would start using barbs...:budo:

[I-Love-Eyes]

In my mind a "Fish Cop" is a DFO enforcement officer. In BC they are referred to as "CO" because they are Conservation Officers. Here we have Conservation Officers (parks) and Fish and Wildlife Officers (everywhere else).

I have taken to calling them SRD Officers, as COs work for Parks.

In Alberta:
A Fish & Wildlife Officer is a two year DIPLOMA program.
A Conservation Enforcement Officer is a four year DEGREE program.

SRD is the acronym for:Sustainable Resources and Development and falls under the Provincial Government

DFO is the acronym for: Department of Fisheries and Oceans and falls under the Federal Government

[Pudelpointer]

In Alberta:
A Fish & Wildlife Officer is a two year DIPLOMA program.
A Conservation Enforcement Officer is a four year DEGREE program.

SRD is the acronym for:Sustainable Resources and Development and falls under the Provincial Government

DFO is the acronym for: Department of Fisheries and Oceans and falls under the Federal Government

Not sure where you got that tidbit. If you are referring to Lethbridge College's educational programs, you are not quite correct.

You need neither program to get hired by either agency, but most AB employees come through the Conservation Enforcement program (and quite a few through RRM as well). The programs available are a 2 year diploma program and a 3 year applied degree in Conservation Enforcement.

You could also take the Fish and Wildlife Technician Certificate program (1 year) after getting a CE diploma, or more commonly, after getting a Renewable Resources Management Diploma. There was some talk of creating an applied degree program for F&W / RRM (this is not Enforcement based like the CE diploma/degree). Maybe this is what you are referring to?

And thanks for the SRD/DFO clarity... :snapoutofit:

[I-Love-Eyes]

Not sure where you got that tidbit. If you are referring to Lethbridge College's educational programs, you are not quite correct.

You need neither program to get hired by either agency, but most AB employees come through the Conservation Enforcement program (and quite a few through RRM as well). The programs available are a 2 year diploma program and a 3 year applied degree in Conservation Enforcement.

You could also take the Fish and Wildlife Technician Certificate program (1 year) after getting a CE diploma, or more commonly, after getting a Renewable Resources Management Diploma. There was some talk of creating an applied degree program for F&W / RRM (this is not Enforcement based like the CE diploma/degree). Maybe this is what you are referring to?

Actually, the conservation enforcement degree at Lethbridge college is a four year program although, you may transfer for year 3 & 4 after completing the Diploma in Wildlife and Fisheries conservation program at Lakeland College in Vermilion.

The first year at both colleges is a "common" year for all environmental sciences.

My son will graduate from Lethbridge college in April with a Degree in Applied Science-Conservation Enforcement---TWO years at Lakeland and TWO years at Lethbridge

And thanks for the SRD/DFO clarity... :snapoutofit:

And your welcome!!

[mooseknuckle]

C constable O on P patrol.

Nothing wrong with that.

[Jimboy]

Here comes the GAME WARDEN , its the title of their magazine.

[Alberta Bigbore]

they dont seem to like " hello my brotha from a different motha "









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[Albertafisher]

I call them F&W or DNR (Division of Natural Resources).

[DoUCWhatIC]

"In Alberta:
A Fish & Wildlife Officer is a two year DIPLOMA program.
A Conservation Enforcement Officer is a four year DEGREE program."

NONSENSE! UTTER NONSENSE! The Fish & Wildlife Technology program your son took was two years. The Conservation Enforcement Applied degree is another two years but it is not geared specifically towards Parks (COs in Alberta).

"SRD is (Sustainable Resource Development) Its the government department . It consists of forestry , fish and wildlife and I think parks."

Incorrect, Parks falls under a different Ministry: Tourism.

[ssyd]

I try not to use the term fish cop out of respect because I fish legal and know my regs. If you're respectful to them and they don't have to write you a ticket, they're usually very friendly and very good sources of local info.

Not always but most of the time. We once bugged a couple of CO's for so long they never bothered to check our licenses, hooks or cooler. They just wanted to leave. They were friendly and all, just impatient. :bad_boys_20:

I generally call them CO's (Conservation Officers) or F&W. And even after learning the correct terminology, I'm still going to call them CO's because "fish and wildlife officer" is too much of a mouthful.

[pophouseman]

Around the year 1700, the slang verb cop entered English usage, meaning "to get ahold of, catch, capture." By 1844, cop showed up in print, and soon thereafter the -er suffix was added, and a policeman became a copper, one who cops or catches and arrests criminals. Copper first appeared in print in 1846, the use of cop as a short form copper occured in 1859

[mooseman1]

they dont seem to like " hello my brotha from a different motha "









. Now thats one i gotta try yet:sHa_sarcasticlol:

[ishootbambi]

when i refer to them as a fish cop i sure dont mean any disrespect. Qisley is at least one who takes no offence so i dont see a problem. if an officer asked me not to call them that i would oblige, but for now fish cop works for me.

[Photoplex]

C constable O on P patrol.

Nothing wrong with that.

But cop is an akronim(spelling) short for "constables on patrol", I would think this is not too disrespectfull..imo

This is wrong. Cop comes from Copper (police are still referred to as coppers in the UK).

Cop or Copper
While commonly believed to be an acronym for Constable On Patrol, the term refers to "one who captures or snatches". This word first appeared in the early 18th century, and can be matched with the word "cap", which has the same meaning and whose etymology can be traced to the Latin word 'capere'. (The word retains this meaning in other contexts: teenagers "cop a feel" on a date, and they have also been known to "cop an attitude".) Variation: Copper. It is also believed that the term Copper was the original, unshortened word, popularly believed to represent the copper badges American officers used to wear at the time of origin, but in fact probably used in Britain to mean "someone who cops" long before this. It is also believed to come from the Latin word 'Corpore' meaning body, i.e. a body of men.

[Sledder1]

Is the term 'Fish cop' derogatory?

Generally speaking, it's only derogatory if you're using it with a derogatory connotation.

[rider_pride]

If anything the guys from highways have the worst nick names derogitory or not. (Mermaid . . )

[alacringa]

When speaking with any sort of LEO, I always address them as 'Sir'.

Ditto. RCMP/fish cops/whoever: in personal interactions, it's always 'sir' (I've not had interactions with a female officer, but I suppose I might revert to the ma'am that I picked up while living in SC).

As for the original question, I think it depends largely on how it's used. It can be used in a fun or respectful way, and I think that's alright. It can also be used in a derogatory (i.e. muttered under one's breath) way, which is, likely, less appropriate.

[Redfrog]

Like girlfriends....call them all "Babe" you'll never get in trouble for screwing up a name.:)

[tim3500]

Fish Cop I had to laugh cause a very close friend is a Fish Cop on the West Coast and I know thats how he refers to himself and I have had a CO pull us over for a game check and he let the officer now his position in the federal fisheries dept he has no problems with it but Iam sure as he gets older that will change to