Bucket Brigade Stikes Again

[ghostguy6]

All I can say is I hope SRD has enough to lay charges. :angry3: Too bad I cant post the unedited photos publically.

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/attachment.php?attachmentid=35750&stc=1&d=1306128483

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/attachment.php?attachmentid=35751&stc=1&d=1306128496

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/attachment.php?attachmentid=35752&d=1306128516

[Lefty-Canuck]

Im confused...was he releasing fish? and if so did you ask him what kind? or was he just collecting water?

Lefty

[BGSH]

Dont tell me this guy is realeasing some kind of chemical or fish into those waters?

[rielbowhunter]

sorry! whats wrong here?

[Bfishin]

Please excuse my ignorance but what is this individual up to that is no good??
Cheers

[Crossfire]

I dont know how they could convict anyone of sticking a bucket in the water maybe im just lost on what happened here but i see no evidence that he is planting or removing fish i see a man dipping a bucket in the lake from the information you can not call this a relocation(bucket brigade)

[BGSH]

it is odd though, but i dont know what we are looking at unless you have anymore information,any proof of any wrong doing the guy doesnt seem to be doing anything wrong

[ghostguy6]

I really didnt think I needed any more of an explanation than the title, he is releasing fish from different waters into that lake.

[Jack&7]

I think the point that everyone is getting at is that the pictures and the title you placed them under are implying that this person is relocating fish. What the pictures are showing is a person sticking a bucket in some water.

Point being if that is all you have for evidence...it would be an easy case to beat.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Fair enough, just was confused that there wasn't a bit more info with your original post.

If you saw him bring in full buckets and leave with empty ones then yes that is cause for concern. Being so close did you engage and ask some "dumb questions" to see what was up?

To me the picture succession make it look like he is filling a bucket....second pic shows him pushing it down as to fill it?

The guy has got to be an idiot for releasing fish with someone so close by....

Lefty

[Jack&7]

However...if you had video showing a guy taking a bucket full of fish from his car...and you could actually SEE the fish being emptied into the water, it would be a different story.

Unfortunately, you need to have some very clear evidence to make a charge stick.

I am no legal expert or SRD official...it's just the way I see it.

[BGSH]

if he was releasing fish i would imagine that is a huge charge, hope he gets busted.

[BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES]

I knew this would happen . :lol: not worth posting anything like this on this forum anymore is there . Just to be torn apart by the experts .

I think Ghostguy has many more pictures hes showing what the guy was doing JUST HASNT POSTED THEM FOLKS.

And ill leave it at that as I now know ill be standing up for whats right when the people of AO know its the right thing to do . :rolleye2::rolleye2::rolleye2::rolleye2::rolleye2: :rolleye2:

[flygirrl]

Sorry, I have to disagree with this one, I also see a man dipping a bucket in the water , maybe to put out a small fire that was started. (yes I know there is a fire ban, maybe started by his ciggarette butt) I dont know. If I had to judge this on pictures alone than he is not guilty of anything but dipping a bucket. There is no other information here to make me think otherwise. I guess what bothers me most is the posting of these pictures with really no proof of anything. What happened to innocent until proven guilty. That is where SRD comes in. If the poster has proof of something going on and its proven than go ahead and post the pics with an explination, not before.

[Willowtrail]

Good for you to call it in ghostguy. I hope you were a ghost takimg these pics and he didn't see you.

Hope he gets busted big time.

What lake was that at anyways?

[Smokey]

Ill make sure never to fill a bucket outta a lake again, the ghost may be hing in the trees. Hey Ghost, got more evidence there PI. Too funny...

[Dust1n]

Sorry, I have to disagree with this one, I also see a man dipping a bucket in the water , maybe to put out a small fire that was started. (yes I know there is a fire ban, maybe started by his ciggarette butt) I dont know. If I had to judge this on pictures alone than he is not guilty of anything but dipping a bucket. There is no other information here to make me think otherwise. I guess what bothers me most is the posting of these pictures with really no proof of anything. What happened to innocent until proven guilty. That is where SRD comes in. If the poster has proof of something going on and its proven than go ahead and post the pics with an explination, not before.

yeah well if that lake or something comes up with a population of fish ghost now has proof of the person. and will get charged.

[flygirrl]

yeah well if that lake or something comes up with a population of fish ghost now has proof of the person. and will get charged.

So if Im seen throwing a rock and a week later a window is found broken, I did it. Sheesh........

I holehardely agree that if someone is putting fish in a lake that should not be there than burn the sob ... These pictures are proof of nothing.

PS: benifit of the doubt, I even put my polorized glasses on and still couldnt see any fish swimming out of the bucket, but I can see the rocks on the bottom:scared0018:

[Dust1n]

So if Im seen throwing a rock and a week later a window is found broken, I did it. Sheesh........

I holehardely agree that if someone is putting fish in a lake that should not be there than burn the sob ... These pictures are proof of nothing.

yeah they dont show the fish in te bucket or fish jumping out. im just saying thats the closesed thing to perfect if they find a new species in there.

[FishingMOM]

I really didnt think I needed any more of an explanation than the title, he is releasing fish from different waters into that lake.

Well good on you for taking notice.
I sure hopethis gets dealt with in a manner fitting for the crime committed.
Did you happen to see what he was releasing?

[flygirrl]

Fortunatly or unfortunatly for every situation we can read into it what we want to. That is human, it just bothers me that pictures are posted that means nothing. If these same pictures were posted and some one said he was putting out a small fire than we would all aplaude. Its all in the perception.

[Dust1n]

Fortunatly or unfortunatly for every situation we can read into it what we want to. That is human, it just bothers me that pictures are posted that means nothing. If these same pictures were posted and some one said he was putting out a small fire than we would all aplaude. Its all in the perception.

im pretty sure there was a fire ban.

[flygirrl]

Yup, me too. Thats why its a good thing he was there with the bucket of water to put out the fire started by those quadders that just drove by the lake.:sHa_shakeshout:

[Smokey]

Funniest thread ever...

[Dust1n]

Yup, me too. Thats why its a good thing he was there with the bucket of water to put out the fire started by those quadders that just drove by the lake.:sHa_shakeshout:

hmm theres goto be at least 50 explanation why that bucket was in the water

[horsetrader]

hmm theres goto be at least 50 explanation why that bucket was in the water

I think he just took a pizz in the bucket and was just rinsing it out..............:)

[Dust1n]

I think he just took a pizz in the bucket and was just rinsing it out..............:)

49 left....

[horsetrader]

This is the guy you got to watch
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a454/horsetrader_photo/bab.jpg

[New Hunter Okotoks]

This is the guy you got to watch
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a454/horsetrader_photo/bab.jpg

Just about fell out of my chair laughing!!!!

[billie]

This is the guy you got to watch
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a454/horsetrader_photo/bab.jpg

And just watch them little buggers reproduce, worse than perch!!!:sHa_sarcasticlol:

[flygirrl]

:sHa_shakeshout::sHa_shakeshout::sHa_shakeshout: To funny, thanks for the laugh

[Alberta Bigbore]

This is the guy you got to watch
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a454/horsetrader_photo/bab.jpg

wtf?? he's releasing babies into the lake?? Thats child abuse !!!:fighting0030:

[finsnfeathers]

lol, it seems paranoia runs rampid here. I see little more than a boy playing in water. Those photos don't appear implicating at all IMO. C'mon folks, are we gonna form a lynch mob over a kid and a bucket in the water? By looking at the size of his arms and legs, how much ambition would it have taken to say, hey kid, what's in the bucket...BEFORE you grab for a camera. If there WERE fish in the bucket, would you sit back and photo while he's dumping them in??? WHY?? Would you be afraid to confront this monster of muscle? lol I think a bucket brigader would simply stand on shore and toss away, rather than go wading.

[Redfrog]

Well he's an old bald guy, not a kid and he's likely the reason the NSR is drying up. Wonder what he's doing with the water?:thinking-006:

[horsetrader]

Well he's an old bald guy, not a kid and he's likely the reason the NSR is drying up. Wonder what he's doing with the water?:thinking-006:

NOW THAT"S FUNNY ....got to change my pants now.......:sHa_shakeshout:

[FishingFrenzy]

All I can say guys is WOW. Im 99% sure that Ghostguy isn't a r'tard. Why would he have taken the pics let alone posted them if the guy wasn't obviously doing something wrong. My guess is what was going on is hard to capture with pictures.. am i right??
Seriously, the guy could be filling a bucket OR he could be releasing perch from said bucket.. Ask Sundance...perch aren't fun.

But here you all are, jumping on this guy because his pictures maybe don't quite capture the entire story. :argue2:

All i can say is kudos to you Ghostguy, its people like you that help protect and maintain our fisheries.

As to MOST everyone else.. WOW. Connect the dots.

[duffy4]

I really didnt think I needed any more of an explanation than the title, he is releasing fish from different waters into that lake.

I don't see anyone "jumping on you" and I am not ether.

What are some more details you can give us? Did you see fish? Did you know that those fish came from another lake? Did you report the situation to SRD with some evidence and are they laying charges?

I am not doubting you, just would like some more details on this interesting situation.

[Lefty-Canuck]

I don't see anyone "jumping on you" and I am not ether.

What are some more details you can give us? Did you see fish? Did you know that those fish came from another lake? Did you report the situation to SRD with some evidence and are they laying charges?

I am not doubting you, just would like some more details on this interesting situation.

^^^^^
X2

This is what I was getting at with my post.

Lefty

[Dust1n]

All I can say guys is WOW. Im 99% sure that Ghostguy isn't a r'tard. Why would he have taken the pics let alone posted them if the guy wasn't obviously doing something wrong. My guess is what was going on is hard to capture with pictures.. am i right??
Seriously, the guy could be filling a bucket OR he could be releasing perch from said bucket.. Ask Sundance...perch aren't fun.

But here you all are, jumping on this guy because his pictures maybe don't quite capture the entire story. :argue2:

All i can say is kudos to you Ghostguy, its people like you that help protect and maintain our fisheries.

As to MOST everyone else.. WOW. Connect the dots.
yup and if there is a new spiecies ghost will be in the good books for taking the pics.
i hope its not a place were there was once trout that would sck and how does these people get perch?

[horsetrader]

im pretty sure there was a fire ban.

So your saying the guy won't break the law and have a fire but he will break the law and transfer fish.

[ÜberFly]

So are you able to provide more information, for example, what kind of fish and what lake?!

Also, did you say anything to him?!

Thanks,

P

[WayneChristie]

Well he's an old bald guy, not a kid and he's likely the reason the NSR is drying up. Wonder what he's doing with the water?:thinking-006:

hes bringing the water down here and dumping it in the Bow, it was very high today, so obviously there was a whole crew of them. :angry3:

[finsnfeathers]

All i can say is kudos to you Ghostguy, its people like you that help protect and maintain our fisheries.


Get Real...if your g/f was about to be raped, and the guy in those photos was the culprit...would you go for the guy....or the camera?? I know how the ghost answered...how bout the rest of you? Go ahead...pin a medal on him. Pathetic!

[Dust1n]

So your saying the guy won't break the law and have a fire but he will break the law and transfer fish.

who knows lol all we got is some pics to make the best of it.

[FishingFrenzy]

All i can say is kudos to you Ghostguy, its people like you that help protect and maintain our fisheries.


Get Real...if your g/f was about to be raped, and the guy in those photos was the culprit...would you go for the guy....or the camera?? I know how the ghost answered...how bout the rest of you? Go ahead...pin a medal on him. Pathetic!
Wow... think you could have used a more disturbing example?

Lets see, When citizens take things into their own hands..with our justice system..who do you think will be punished? Not to mention the fact that if I was the one witnessing the fish being dumped.. and i confronted the guy what would happen? Might get in a fight, might get some personal satisfaction but at the end of the day I haven't gotten any further towards stopping the bucket biologist. Without evidence (like GG's pics) the F&W can't find/catch the guy..

So how has your idea worked out.. you get in a fight with the guy.. walk away with a bloody nose and the guy drives off.. What has been gained?? Zip, Zero, Nadda

You should be friends with best guide... you think alike...:scared0015:

[Dust1n]

Wow... think you could have used a more disturbing example?

Lets see, When citizens take things into their own hands..with our justice system..who do you think will be punished? Not to mention the fact that if I was the one witnessing the fish being dumped.. and i confronted the guy what would happen? Might get in a fight, might get some personal satisfaction but at the end of the day I haven't gotten any further towards stopping the bucket biologist. Without evidence (like GG's pics) the F&W can't find/catch the guy..

So how has your idea worked out.. you get in a fight with the guy.. walk away with a bloody nose and the guy drives off.. What has been gained?? Zip, Zero, Nadda

You should be friends with best guide... you think alike...:scared0015:

thats why they call him ghost cause the guy never seen him taking a picture.

[finsnfeathers]

So how has your idea worked out.. you get in a fight with the guy.. walk away with a bloody nose and the guy drives off.. What has been gained?? Zip, Zero, Nadda

I'm 6' 3"...205 lbs, and no..the guy in the photo wouldn't scare my mother. If there were fish in the bucket, they wouldn't have made it to the water. End of story. Chances are, a confrontation wouldn't have added up to much, and the lake, pond, whatever, would have been saved from many dollars worth of reclamation. Most likely, letting the person know that his little project is highly illegal, and explaining why, would have been all that was needed.

[pickrel pat]

ghostguy6? can we get more details? have you takin the pics in yet?

[FishingFrenzy]

So how has your idea worked out.. you get in a fight with the guy.. walk away with a bloody nose and the guy drives off.. What has been gained?? Zip, Zero, Nadda

I'm 6' 3"...205 lbs, and no..the guy in the photo wouldn't scare my mother. If there were fish in the bucket, they wouldn't have made it to the water. End of story. Chances are, a confrontation wouldn't have added up to much, and the lake, pond, whatever, would have been saved from many dollars worth of reclamation. Most likely, letting the person know that his little project is highly illegal, and explaining why, would have been all that was needed.
I never said the guy was scary.. or that you or I couldn't easily intimidate him. What I said is that, if we let the proper authorities deal with the problem, the guy will suffer whatever punishment they deem appropriate.
Now I agree with you that having a friendly conversation with the guy BEFORE he lets the fish go, telling him its illegal, is a good idea. But on the other hand, I think if a guy "cares" enough and thinks he's "smart" enough to "improve" our lakes, 5 bucks says he knows it illegal.

[1shotwade]

Just my 2 cents but if a person was going to do such a thing in front of somebody would't you throw the fish into the lake and get the hell out of dodge! If your not smart enough too do it incognito "I hope i spelled that right" What makes you think this dude is smart enough to let alone catch a fish or operate a fishing rod! Criminals are dumb but if this guy was "bucket brigading" he is 1 dumb SOB! Like I said just my 2 cents!:thinking-006:

[FishingMOM]

:argue2:
:argue2:

I think that GHOST has more information he can't share with us and we need to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[chubbdarter]

if the suspect ended up beaten near to death and his bucket was tossed in the river......im pretty sure i know who did it
if the suspects car was battery-less.....im even more confident i know
if a note was left beotching about Edmonton....case solved

[horsetrader]

if the suspect ended up beaten near to death and his bucket was tossed in the river......im pretty sure i know who did it
if the suspects car was battery-less.....im even more confident i know
if a note was left beotching about Edmonton....case solved

....HAHAHAHA.......That's awesome you got it all in one post.........:).

[chubbdarter]

....HAHAHAHA.......That's awesome you got it all in one post.........:).

not quite...some quality control guy you are



Originally Posted by chubbdarter
if the suspect ended up beaten near to death and his BEST bucket was tossed in the river......im pretty sure i know who did it
if the suspects BEST car was battery-less.....im even more confident i know
if a BEST note was left beotching about Edmonton....case solved

[pickrel pat]

if the suspect ended up beaten near to death and his bucket was tossed in the river......im pretty sure i know who did it
if the suspects car was battery-less.....im even more confident i know
if a note was left beotching about Edmonton....case solvedthe murder rates are up in edmonton this year because battery theft is running rampant in the city....used to be only confined to hongcouver!

[horsetrader]

not quite...some quality control guy you are



Originally Posted by chubbdarter
if the suspect ended up beaten near to death and his BEST bucket was tossed in the river......im pretty sure i know who did it
if the suspects BEST car was battery-less.....im even more confident i know
if a BEST note was left beotching about Edmonton....case solved

There you go I must be getting old..

[chubbdarter]

the murder rates are up in edmonton this year because battery theft is running rampant in the city....used to be only confined to hongcouver!


suicide rates will go up when the River runs dry

[FishingFrenzy]

if the suspect ended up beaten near to death and his bucket was tossed in the river......im pretty sure i know who did it
if the suspects car was battery-less.....im even more confident i know
if a note was left beotching about Edmonton....case solved

:47b20s0::sHa_shakeshout:
Hands down, funniest thing i have read in a while!!!
Thanks for that one.

[BGSH]

:O

[scudman]

if the suspect ended up beaten near to death and his bucket was tossed in the river......im pretty sure i know who did it
if the suspects car was battery-less.....im even more confident i know
if a note was left beotching about Edmonton....case solved

This post is just pure awesomeness:sHa_shakeshout:

[Jack&7]

I don't see anyone "jumping on you" and I am not ether.

What are some more details you can give us? Did you see fish? Did you know that those fish came from another lake? Did you report the situation to SRD with some evidence and are they laying charges?

I am not doubting you, just would like some more details on this interesting situation.

X3...

I am not jumping on the OP either. In fact, if he saw what he described, he should be commended for taking the actions that he did. We should ALL be so vigilant. If there are more details that he is not able to share, I hope he HAS shared them with the authorities so the situation can be dealt with appropriately.

But having said all that, I stand by my original comments. The pictures presented, if taken at face value, do not depict anything illegal IMHO. Maybe there is more to the story....maybe not. But based on what I have seen provided as evidence, I would not jump to any conclusions here. More info is needed..

But ultimately, it doesn't matter what any of us thinks of this thread. That is what the authorities are for.

[Sundancefisher]

All I can say is I hope SRD has enough to lay charges. :angry3: Too bad I cant post the unedited photos publically.


You did the right thing.

You took some pictures...got a licence number...recorded what you saw and past it on to F&W to follow up on. You did not get into an altercation which I am sure your family is also pleased about.

What you did was admirable and should be commended. I am concerned that some negative posters are blind to suspicious activity or would just refuse to get involved for whatever reason.

If he was a bucket vandal then there is proof tied to where he was at should perch show up. If he was not then we can all breath a sigh of relief. Our job as custodians of the resource is to monitor and help protect the fisheries. Odd or suspicious behavoir has to be reported.

It is definitely suspicious and anyone reading this thread should read one main point. People are watching and if you do this you will get caught.

Cheers

Sun

[ghostguy6]

There are many more details that I am not willing to share publicly. The rules for chain of custody of evidence do appy even on the internet. I am not going to potentially blow the case by posting said information. It is possible that the person in the photo is a member here and does not need to know what is going on until law enforcment is knocking on their door. SRD has copies of all the photos and relivent information, it is now in their hands.

For those of you that had something positive to say, Thank you.
Now if youll excuse me I have a few more people to add to my blocked list.

[Lefty-Canuck]

There are many more details that I am not willing to share publicly. The rules for chain of custody of evidence do appy even on the internet. I am not going to potentially blow the case by posting said information. It is possible that the person in the photo is a member here and I does not need to know what is going on until law enforcment is knocking on their door. SRD has copies of all the photos and relivent information, it is now in their hands.

For those of you that had something positive to say, Thank you.
Now if youll excuse me I have a few more people to add to my blocked list.

I am glad you did the right thing by collecting the info and passing it along. One thing you have to understand is that the OP was a bit vague, but lets hope that whoever was transplanting fish get nailed for it!

Lefty

[fish-slaughter]

Good on yeah ghost world needs more people like you!!! People who care!!!

[BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES]

I'm sure doing the work he does knows what he had to do . Like Sundancefisher said something like that , that seems very suspicious is probably something to document and report .

Sure it could be a guy getting a bucket of water but it could be some brilliant guy who thinks they need some other fish in that lake .

Also I don't think a guy is gonna go out of his way to post something like this and not have any other proof behind it . Some of you clowns on this forum need to give your bloody heads a shake . Really an embarrassment to Legal sportsmen all around .

[horsetrader]

I'm sure doing the work he does knows what he had to do . Like Sundancefisher said something like that , that seems very suspicious is probably something to document and report .

Sure it could be a guy getting a bucket of water but it could be some brilliant guy who thinks they need some other fish in that lake .

Also I don't think a guy is gonna go out of his way to post something like this and not have any other proof behind it . Some of you clowns on this forum need to give your bloody heads a shake . Really an embarrassment to Legal sportsmen all around .

John you hurt my feelings I will have to leave the forum now.............:cry:

[Mark]

Good on ya Ghost. We need more sportman like you!
Legal and ethical sportmen (or sportpeople, if you're politically correct) have nothing to fear. Everybody else, watch out, we're watching you!

[boot]

I wonder why people assume the OP has better pictures and more proof. Wouldn't it make sense to post a picture that actually shows some fish or real proof (if it exists)? All I see is a guy with a bucket... and he's wading... what kind of fool would roll up all his clothes, then carefully wade in to release illegal fish?

Anyhow, I have to agree with some of the earlier replies. In a situation like this, you need to say something and get involved immediately. Even if you don't get physically involved, you can make him aware that you're taking pictures and recording what's happening. That should be enough to stop him. And if you can't get involved, take better pictures up close and personal.

[ssyd]

There are many more details that I am not willing to share publicly. The rules for chain of custody of evidence do appy even on the internet. I am not going to potentially blow the case by posting said information. It is possible that the person in the photo is a member here and does not need to know what is going on until law enforcment is knocking on their door. SRD has copies of all the photos and relivent information, it is now in their hands.

For those of you that had something positive to say, Thank you.
Now if youll excuse me I have a few more people to add to my blocked list.

I'm sure he'd recognize his own clothes, car and actions from those pictures... You've already told this person (if he's on this forum) that you're onto him. How could it hurt to show us the pictures that prove his wrong-doing?

I'm also curious... Did he make multiple trips or just the one bucket?

[Granrey]

this guy could be a biologist doing some research with permission.

but anyways, if he is breaking the law is good you catch him.

[Fishfinder]

A picture tells a thousand words.... in this case, several thousand:lol:

Good on ya Ghost!:)

If budsy there IS doing what we hope he is not, I hope they throw the book at him...and I'm sure they will. As they should!

Can't wait to hear the outcome of this one:party0052:

Cheers n GL.

[horsetrader]

If the guy was dumping fish and you reported him then good on you Ghost

The only problem I have is we deal a lot with court in fact was there today.
the problem I have is any time we have had picture evidence from our surveillance cameras where the crown was going to prosecute and we were just giving evidence we had to hand over all pictures or video you cannot keep a copy for yourself. You do not get it back until after the court is done and some time not then. So i find it hard to believe they aloud you to keep copies and post them.