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Pathfinder76 04-15-2024 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 4716558)
He was a politician....kinda sums it up right there.

Actually, no. He isn’t a politician.

Do you don’t know. It is your gut.

Tundra Monkey 04-15-2024 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 4716548)
Reality check there buddy he is a crooked bugger and his past is catching up.


If that's the case, then their vetting process in the US is almost as bad as ours.

I'm with Elk. Make them accountable for their financials. How anyone can become a multi (10x) millionaire on a govt salary is beyond me.

58thecat 04-15-2024 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pathfinder76 (Post 4716563)
Actually, no. He isn’t a politician.

Do you don’t know. It is your gut.

Hmm he is the only American president to have no political or military service prior to his presidency but once he was elected to president or campaigning he became a politician would you not agree? And since he was active in his party's politics and holding or seeking an elected office in government sound like a politician to me.

elkhunter11 04-15-2024 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tundra Monkey (Post 4716564)
If that's the case, then their vetting process in the US is almost as bad as ours.

I'm with Elk. Make them accountable for their financials. How anyone can become a multi (10x) millionaire on a govt salary is beyond me.

Compare Trudeau and Harper, look at how many vacations Trudeau took on our tax dollars compared to Harper. Trudeau had multiple nannies, Harper had none. Look at the money spent on the PM's residences. Look at their net worth now, look at foreign donations to the Trudeau Foundation, the fees paid to Trudeaus wife and mother. Both were PMs for a similar period, but one spent responsibly and didn't rake in tens of millions, while the other spend our money with zero accountability.

Look at Singh's expenses compared to PP's, all politicians are not equal.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jag...s-the-cheapest

Looper 04-15-2024 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 4716569)
Hmm he is the only American president to have no political or military service prior to his presidency but once he was elected to president or campaigning he became a politician would you not agree? And since he was active in his party's politics and holding or seeking an elected office in government sound like a politician to me.

And no wars.

You forgot that part.

You lefties:thinking-006:

Looper

elkhunter11 04-15-2024 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Looper (Post 4716574)
And no wars.

You forgot that part.

You lefties:thinking-006:

Looper

Isn't it ironic how some people completely ignore that fact. Trump brokered peace treaties, but during his presidency, he started no wars. And it wasn't until Biden took power that the Ukrainian invasion, and the attack on Israel occurred.

CBintheNorth 04-15-2024 08:30 AM

In Columbia, drug cartels use the poor and the stupid to have their allies voted in, and their adversaries murdered.

In North America, the WEF, UN, and WHO use the poor and the stupid to have their allies voted in, and have their adversaries imprisoned.

People can be such useful idiots.

Can't wait to see what Poilievre gets charged with in a few months.

Enjoy the decline.

elkhunter11 04-15-2024 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CBintheNorth (Post 4716576)
In Columbia, drug cartels use the poor and the stupid to have their allies voted in, and their adversaries murdered.

In North America, the WEF, UN, and WHO use the poor and the stupid to have their allies voted in, and have their adversaries imprisoned.

People can be such useful idiots.

Can't wait to see what Poilievre gets charged with in a few months.

Enjoy the decline.

The liberals need to come up with something major to try and turn people against PP, to beat him in an election, just as the democrats need to stop Trump from running, to be sure of him not becoming president.

CBintheNorth 04-15-2024 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 4716569)
Hmm he is the only American president to have no political or military service prior to his presidency but once he was elected to president or campaigning he became a politician would you not agree? And since he was active in his party's politics and holding or seeking an elected office in government sound like a politician to me.

No political or military service prior to his presidency?
That was pretty weak, Cat.

Don't worry though, I'm sure your couple of sidekicks will be along shortly to to help. It's been a while since they've been able to relieve the frustration of their TDS. :sHa_sarcasticlol:

lmtada 04-15-2024 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 4716575)
Isn't it ironic how some people completely ignore that fact. Trump brokered peace treaties, but during his presidency, he started no wars. And it wasn't until Biden took power that the Ukrainian invasion, and the attack on Israel occurred.

True. Trump had no wars. This stops the Neo-Cons (Clintons, Obama, Bush, Late McCains, Cheney) in there tracks, perpetual fear mongering and war. Need to keep the blood money flowing in. Create enemies of the state. Russia. Cold War ended in 1960’s. Soviet union walls fell in 1989. Now a mixture of capitalism/Socialist state. No $$$$ being friends of Russia…….no need for NATO to exist, if there are no enemies of the state. Trump raises question every state needs to pay there share (Canada has never paid its share, along with many countries). Ride on the back of America and it’s war mongers. This is the political class. Power. Doing everything to keep, preserve power. If that means throwing Trump in jail, then so be it. It means assination of Mr. Trump (as happened to JFK), then so be it. However the people understand. It’s in plain view, who the enemy is. It’s within our country. The government is the enemy. Revolutions happen all the time. This is when gloves come off.:fighting0030::fighting0030::fighting0030:
It’s time, all countries powers come to and end. Burn to ground, restart. Takes centuries to rebuild (china, India). As saying goes. About hard times create good times vs easy times create hard times. North America is in final stages…. Wish all my nephews, family members luck. We had a good ride.

58thecat 04-15-2024 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CBintheNorth (Post 4716578)
No political or military service prior to his presidency?
That was pretty weak, Cat.

Don't worry though, I'm sure your couple of sidekicks will be along shortly to to help. It's been a while since they've been able to relieve the frustration of their TDS. :sHa_sarcasticlol:


Just stating a fact was all not requiring any sidekicks to chime in
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Big Grey Wolf 04-15-2024 09:47 AM

"If you do the crime, you have to serve the time" even in the US.

elkhunter11 04-15-2024 09:49 AM

Something to ponder, many recent president's became very rich from politics, yet Trump will end up losing money because of all of the politically motivated attacks on him. Trump isn't a 30-40 year politician like many of the people trying to stop him from running.

elkhunter11 04-15-2024 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf (Post 4716605)
"If you do the crime, you have to serve the time" even in the US.

Not true, Hillary Clinton was never held accountable, and Dementia Joe was spared criminal charges, because he only had a bad memory , and they may even succeed in getting his crooked son off, because he is president
And of course OJ Simpson just passed away.

bradleyk 04-15-2024 09:57 AM

If anyone doesn't think that the cases against Trump are completely politically motivated and have nothing to do with any real "crimes", they are out of touch with reality or haven't actually been paying attention to the facts of the scenarios.

You can hate the guy for other reasons, but these cases are complete shams. The irony is that most people are seeing through that now, even people that are not his fans. It is swinging more people away from the Democrats as they see the uneven application of the law against him. Saw a pundit on CNN say they needed to quit prosecuting him as they are just making him more popular.

Smoky buck 04-15-2024 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bradleyk (Post 4716610)
If anyone doesn't think that the cases against Trump are completely politically motivated and have nothing to do with any real "crimes", they are out of touch with reality or haven't actually been paying attention to the facts of the scenarios.

You can hate the guy for other reasons, but these cases are complete shams. The irony is that most people are seeing through that now, even people that are not his fans. It is swinging more people away from the Democrats as they see the uneven application of the law against him. Saw a pundit on CNN say they needed to quit prosecuting him as they are just making him more popular.

This is the reality right here ^^

Like Trump or hate Trump this has nothing to do with anything he is being charged with. So many are caught up on their dislike for Trump to acknowledge that this is nothing but a political attack to remove an opponent from the up coming election and possibly politics in general

I could careless about Trumps future in politics but I am paying close attention to the level of corruption and extremes that politicians are going to in order to remove a candidate that the public has supported to run in the next election

lmtada 04-15-2024 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bradleyk (Post 4716610)
If anyone doesn't think that the cases against Trump are completely politically motivated and have nothing to do with any real "crimes", they are out of touch with reality or haven't actually been paying attention to the facts of the scenarios.

You can hate the guy for other reasons, but these cases are complete shams. The irony is that most people are seeing through that now, even people that are not his fans. It is swinging more people away from the Democrats as they see the uneven application of the law against him. Saw a pundit on CNN say they needed to quit prosecuting him as they are just making him more popular.

As I MENTIONED earlier. The political class, won’t let Trump near the Near the White House………..This is when it gets interesting. Jan 6. Was a nothingberger……..:fighting0030::fighting003… Americans won’t sit on there butts like Canucks. Civil war has happened before. It will happen again. the United States will not be united, but the divided states. :fighting0030::fighting0030::fighting0030:

AxeMan 04-15-2024 10:31 AM

This Trump criminal case (hush money and illegal business practices) has many similarities to what happened in Canada. The Trump case revolves around the method of payment of hush money to pay off an affair with a hooker, Stormy Daniels, to prevent negative political complications.

The Canadian version of this was the SNC Lavalin scandal with Justin Trudeau illegally interfering to cover up bribery including hooker affairs/payments and bribery that would also have very negative political complications.

The only difference is that Trump allegedly acted directly and Trudeau acted surrogately abusing his position of power. Same motive and result though; to cover up behavior including paid sex scandals and bribery to eliminate political backlash. Trudeau was protecting his direct interest in SNC, the proxy in between massive government contracts, and in this case the Libyan Government official receiving the bribes including hooker payments.

In Canada, the case was squashed by Trudeau's dictatorship power, with an added illegal (in my mind) mess of two women cabinet ministers being forced out of their positions. We shall see how the USA Trump case unfolds, with the Democrat political influence firmly behind.

urcayuse 04-15-2024 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 4716548)
Reality check there buddy he is a crooked bugger and his past is catching up.

Can you see that this has all been brought up strictly because he is the main opposition? They’re so desperate and the sheer number of frivolous charges reflects that. They are just throwing crap at a wall hoping for something to stick.
When it fails I wonder what the next move is? It won’t be pretty. If they succeed it’ll be far worse for us. Honestly I don’t know how he handles all of it. Just the fact that he does is a good indicator he’s the man for the job.

58thecat 04-15-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by urcayuse (Post 4716624)
Can you see that this has all been brought up strictly because he is the main opposition? They’re so desperate and the sheer number of frivolous charges reflects that. They are just throwing crap at a wall hoping for something to stick.
When it fails I wonder what the next move is? It won’t be pretty. If they succeed it’ll be far worse for us. Honestly I don’t know how he handles all of it. Just the fact that he does is a good indicator he’s the man for the job.

Na he has money and lawyers to do his talking but then he opens his mouth and it all goes to hell for him real quick.

He simply handles all of this because he likes the attention kinda like a rock star and it may or may not workout for him.

We will see soon enough or will we?

:thinking-006:

Pathfinder76 04-15-2024 12:08 PM

Take 10 minutes and actually do some research on the charges.

58thecat 04-15-2024 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pathfinder76 (Post 4716652)
Take 10 minutes and actually do some research on the charges.


10 minutes more like 10 days if I dove into it full on. Seeing that research on social media is a crap shoot on the best of days.

10 minutes is skimming the surface barely.

Let the American justice system sort it out

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MountainTi 04-15-2024 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pathfinder76 (Post 4716652)
Take 10 minutes and actually do some research on the charges.

He won't

KGB 04-15-2024 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 4716636)
Na he has money and lawyers to do his talking but then he opens his mouth and it all goes to hell for him real quick.

He simply handles all of this because he likes the attention kinda like a rock star and it may or may not workout for him.

We will see soon enough or will we?

:thinking-006:

I understand you don’t like Trump. So explain me please who do you want to see at the White House? And why. Just want to see your points.

MountainTi 04-15-2024 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KGB (Post 4716668)
I understand you don’t like Trump. So explain me please who do you want to see at the White House? And why. Just want to see your points.

Curious as to which of his policies he wasn't fond of. World was at peace and the US's economy was in high gear (till the vid hit of course).
Gotta be a policy that didn't sit well.

Looper 04-15-2024 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 4716665)
10 minutes more like 10 days if I dove into it full on. Seeing that research on social media is a crap shoot on the best of days.

10 minutes is skimming the surface barely.

Let the American justice system sort it out

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The "American Justice system" is being weaponized by the Democrats.

The very people who were supposedly victims said there was no crime.

You should give a little more thought to your comments maybe. You're coming across quite foolish....again.

Looper

58thecat 04-15-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Looper (Post 4716690)
The "American Justice system" is being weaponized by the Democrats.

The very people who were supposedly victims said there was no crime.

You should give a little more thought to your comments maybe. You're coming across quite foolish....again.

Looper


Ok looper seems to be if a person or people’s thoughts don’t line up with some here then there is the comments as per yours that pops up, again.
Trump has so much potential but that is where it ends as for a presidents position. Not saying what is sitting
In the chair is a much better choice but here they are.
Some say that there was no wars etc during his seat at the helm, hmmm maybe because he was making back door deals, discussions etc that may or may not have panned out keeping the so called peace but at what price?
Interesting times for sure.


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58thecat 04-15-2024 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KGB (Post 4716668)
I understand you don’t like Trump. So explain me please who do you want to see at the White House? And why. Just want to see your points.


Gotta see closer to election as to what slithers out of the weeds.
Then make a decision of who is slightly less crazy than the others.


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Talking moose 04-15-2024 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 4716701)
Gotta see closer to election as to what slithers out of the weeds.
Then make a decision of who is slightly less crazy than the others.


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How bout just put everything else aside and just plain pick who you think will do the best job for the majority of the countries citizens?
Like would be the smart thing to do……
Don’t be blinded by DTS.
Crazy, ugly, tall, stinky….. who cares.
Pick the option that helps the majority of a country thrive first and foremost.

58thecat 04-15-2024 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainTi (Post 4716674)
Curious as to which of his policies he wasn't fond of. World was at peace and the US's economy was in high gear (till the vid hit of course).
Gotta be a policy that didn't sit well.


There is just something not trustworthy that doesn’t sit right with me regarding trump.
Once his handlers were out of range to control him his comments etc was not what I would deem leader of a country.

Kinda like ours.


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