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titegroup 02-10-2024 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 4700250)
Exactly, it is 100% intended to harass firearms owners, to the point where some just give up on owning firearms. They could fix the system, they just don't want to.

Yup i agree elkhunter" plain harrasment, seeing if people will cave in to their tactics & get fed up. disgusting but what can we expect from the Lib losers.:angry3:

Dewey Cox 02-10-2024 01:45 PM

The government thinks people will get fed up with the hassle and give up their guns.
It doesn't even cross their bureaucracy focused minds that people will get fed up with the hassle and give up their licenses instead.

Dean2 02-10-2024 02:59 PM

Renewal showed up in the mail Friday. Total 7 business days From the Jan 26th online submission, to in hand.

Savage Bacon 02-10-2024 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean2 (Post 4700415)
Renewal showed up in the mail Friday. Total 7 business days From the Jan 26th online submission, to in hand.

Dean, that is crazy fast. You must have slipped through the cracks somehow?

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Au revoir, Gopher 02-11-2024 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by titegroup (Post 4700208)
Thought i'd throw this out there. Anyone on here have a registered letter sent to their spouse prior to getting their new license, basically asking them if they have any concerns about their hubby acquiring the renewed license? Cause mine did & i've never had that happen with previous renewals. Must be a new protocol, been married dam near 20yrs. & no criminal record . That's a first for me, they call it a background check. Signed by the Alberta CFO. I mean i'm all for public safety, & i understand some relationships can go sour. where there could be violence,, so i guess they're giving the option to a spouse / partner to come forward if they don't feel safe having a partner get a firearms license ,,, which in my opinion , why are they even in the relationship if that's the case. My spouse would just as soon tell them to stuff their letter, as she trusts me 100% with anything to do with guns, after been hunting & shooting ( including many competitions) for over 50yrs. Must be some new protocol ,, cause that's a first for me.:thinking-006:

Did your wife sign your application for renewal?

ARG

Dean2 02-11-2024 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Bacon (Post 4700435)
Dean, that is crazy fast. You must have slipped through the cracks somehow?

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Actually, if you ship them some crack with your app it seems to speed things up.:sHa_shakeshout:

In reality, I have no real idea why I seem to always be so lucky and have been my whole life. Hope it stays that way.

titegroup 02-12-2024 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher (Post 4700746)
Did your wife sign your application for renewal?

ARG

Nope. Application online didn't stipulate her signature was required. As said - this was a first for me in decades of renewing, i've had firearms licenses since a teenager & i'm north of 70 now , they must pick people at random cause i asked fellow, shooters, & none recall this harassment. Don't know if i will renew after this 5yr. span, depends on health -so far so good still love to shoot, mostly at range friends ranch at steel.. also pick off odd coyotes at his ranch. but don't walk the miles i use to . got to hunt smarter. as we get older, but love to be outdoors.

catnthehat 02-12-2024 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by titegroup (Post 4700208)
Thought i'd throw this out there. Anyone on here have a registered letter sent to their spouse prior to getting their new license, basically asking them if they have any concerns about their hubby acquiring the renewed license? Cause mine did & i've never had that happen with previous renewals. Must be a new protocol, been married dam near 20yrs. & no criminal record . That's a first for me, they call it a background check. Signed by the Alberta CFO. I mean i'm all for public safety, & i understand some relationships can go sour. where there could be violence,, so i guess they're giving the option to a spouse / partner to come forward if they don't feel safe having a partner get a firearms license ,,, which in my opinion , why are they even in the relationship if that's the case. My spouse would just as soon tell them to stuff their letter, as she trusts me 100% with anything to do with guns, after been hunting & shooting ( including many competitions) for over 50yrs. Must be some new protocol ,, cause that's a first for me.:thinking-006:

I have had it happen to myself, and several people I know, one actually owned a gun shop up here a few years back.
Cat

Dean2 02-12-2024 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by titegroup (Post 4700911)
Nope. Application online didn't stipulate her signature was required. As said - this was a first for me in decades of renewing, i've had firearms licenses since a teenager & i'm north of 70 now , they must pick people at random cause i asked fellow, shooters, & none recall this harassment. Don't know if i will renew after this 5yr. span, depends on health -so far so good still love to shoot, mostly at range friends ranch at steel.. also pick off odd coyotes at his ranch. but don't walk the miles i use to . got to hunt smarter. as we get older, but love to be outdoors.

The online application most definitely asks for an electronic signature from your spouse. If you don't provide that they will contact her almost every time. They sometimes contact a spouse even if it is provided. Never had it happen to me but have heard of it.

Au revoir, Gopher 02-12-2024 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean2 (Post 4700940)
The online application most definitely asks for an electronic signature from your spouse. If you don't provide that they will contact her almost every time. They sometimes contact a spouse even if it is provided. Never had it happen to me but have heard of it.

I couldn't remember for sure, but I thought there was a place for it, same as the paper form.

My wife has never been contacted about my license but I've never been contacted about hers, so I guess we're even.:)

ARG

CrisPbacon 02-12-2024 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dfarr67 (Post 4686190)
I'm sure there is a specific sub section somewhere on this but....just wanted to know how long a renewal generally takes, I made the mistake of RENEWING online when I should have down graded my license from the get go due to new laws making it impossible to purchase anything that I fancy in the formerly restricted category. Anyway from online application to license in hand took no more than two weeks. Meanwhile a friend who being honest indicated marriage issues has been WITHOUT a valid PAL for over a year- has phoned in and has been handed BS about his renewal is in the cue and hasn't been looked at. My question is directed in his circumstance, is there any hope of him getting his PAL, he has been forced into an illegal situation being in possession without a license. Is there any recourse for him?

My renewal took an excessive 8 months. Can't imagine how long an initial application takes these days. A year maybe?

titegroup 02-12-2024 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean2 (Post 4700940)
The online application most definitely asks for an electronic signature from your spouse. If you don't provide that they will contact her almost every time. They sometimes contact a spouse even if it is provided. Never had it happen to me but have heard of it.

Ok Dean2, i didn't recall seeing a spot for her electronic signature or i would have got her to sign it. maybe that's why they sent her the letter for approval ..ha,ha. I actually wanted to just get a PAL- as i no longer own any restricted's but when i did it online it automatically defaulted to renewing my RPAL, so i thought just go with it, other than starting up fresh changing the application which i figured would just delay things more, & be a bigger hassle.

7magtime 02-12-2024 03:14 PM

I have to renew my PAL pretty soon.

Are most of you guys getting an actual passport photo done for your renewal or taking your own photo using the parameters that were already listed on this thread?

Are applicants getting denied more with either photo option?

Thanks for any info....

Dean2 02-12-2024 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 7magtime (Post 4701033)
I have to renew my PAL pretty soon.

Are most of you guys getting an actual passport photo done for your renewal or taking your own photo using the parameters that were already listed on this thread?

Are applicants getting denied more with either photo option?

Thanks for any info....

Last two i just took a selfie. No issues at all with the pictures if you follow their instructions.

elkhunter11 02-12-2024 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 7magtime (Post 4701033)
I have to renew my PAL pretty soon.

Are most of you guys getting an actual passport photo done for your renewal or taking your own photo using the parameters that were already listed on this thread?

Are applicants getting denied more with either photo option?


Thanks for any info....

The picture is not a passport photo, the format is slightly different, I got mine at AMA, and they knew which format. Two AO regulars, including one person that teaches the course took their own pictures, and both were rejected.

Albertadiver 02-12-2024 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 4701040)
The picture is not a passport photo, the format is slightly different, I got mine at AMA, and they knew which format. Two AO regulars, including one person that teaches the course took their own pictures, and both were rejected.

I took my own photo and it was accepted. Just have to follow the directions on how to take it.

"The photo should have been taken within the last twelve (12) months. Size: the photo should be no larger than 45 mm x 57 mm (1 3/4″ x 2 1/4″). Your head in the photograph must be at least 30 mm (1 3/16″) high. The photo must be original, not taken from an existing photo."

https://www.propassportphoto.com/can...isting%20photo.

elkhunter11 02-12-2024 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Albertadiver (Post 4701042)
I took my own photo and it was accepted. Just have to follow the directions on how to take it.

"The photo should have been taken within the last twelve (12) months. Size: the photo should be no larger than 45 mm x 57 mm (1 3/4″ x 2 1/4″). Your head in the photograph must be at least 30 mm (1 3/16″) high. The photo must be original, not taken from an existing photo."

https://www.propassportphoto.com/can...isting%20photo.

And once again, the issue is inconsistency in how applications are dealt with. Both people that I mentioned are tradesmen very used to following codes/directions, and dealing with precise measurements. And both had renewed several times previously, with no issues.

Dewey Cox 02-12-2024 04:49 PM

I just emailed the Alberta cfo and got an automatic response that said they don't have time for renewal status inquiries.
They also said to expect a processing time for a renewal to be 8-12 months.
So, I guess I paid for a 5 year license, but will only get 4 out of it.

elkhunter11 02-12-2024 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey Cox (Post 4701065)
I just emailed the Alberta cfo and got an automatic response that said they don't have time for renewal status inquiries.
They also said to expect a processing time for a renewal to be 8-12 months.
So, I guess I paid for a 5 year license, but will only get 4 out of it.

Here is something to think about. They used to process PALs, and do restricted/ handgun transfers, but now the restricted transfers are no more, so they should have much more time to process PALs, yet on average, the PAL processing time takes as long, or longer than before. :thinking-006:

7magtime 02-12-2024 09:20 PM

Thanks for the info on the photo gents, appreciate it! :happy0180:

Brodhead 02-14-2024 01:03 PM

Just got my renewal in the mail today. Under 3 weeks from the time I submitted my online application. My wife is on month 6 of waiting for hers. It's a crapshoot

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Fisher1 02-14-2024 03:25 PM

The countdown begins!
 
I just sent my renewal in. I wonder if I will be one of the lucky ones to get it back before the expiry date?

elkhunter11 02-14-2024 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fisher1 (Post 4701640)
I just sent my renewal in. I wonder if I will be one of the lucky ones to get it back before the expiry date?

How long did it go in before the expiry date?

Fisher1 02-15-2024 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 4701641)
How long did it go in before the expiry date?

It will expire in June. Sounds like some folks get a turnaround in weeks, while others wait up to 8 months!

elkhunter11 02-15-2024 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fisher1 (Post 4701805)
It will expire in June. Sounds like some folks get a turnaround in weeks, while others wait up to 8 months!

With over 4 months, your odds are fairly good, start calling the Alberta CFO at the beginning of May.

partsman 02-17-2024 03:45 PM

Mine expires in November, maybe I should put in now?😳

elkhunter11 02-17-2024 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by partsman (Post 4702480)
Mine expires in November, maybe I should put in now?😳

I put mine in the day after my birthday, as early as is allowed with mail in applications.

-JR- 02-17-2024 04:02 PM

Prices are going up March 31

birdseye 02-20-2024 03:36 PM

finnaly
 
I just talked to the PAL renewal office,my renewal was aproved and being mailed out later this week or early next week,ldindt bother to ask what if any delay was,just happy its on its way 👌and My youngest son's is being sent the same time,double yahooo lol

elkhunter11 02-20-2024 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by birdseye (Post 4703147)
I just talked to the PAL renewal office,my renewal was aproved and being mailed out later this week or early next week,ldindt bother to ask what if any delay was,just happy its on its way 👌and My youngest son's is being sent the same time,double yahooo lol

So how long since you applied?


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