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there is no reason for most of waht I do and choose to do , own , etc , outide of what I need to survive . your point holds no water |
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Or the day before. Or the day before that. So what? You do whatever you want right up until you are hurting someone else. If it floats your boat to go fishing with body armour on, have at 'er. It's called freedom, bud. It's what you fought for. Not "kinda free"....Not "sorta free"....Not "free unless I think up something to worry about"...Not "free until I see something spooky on TV".....and Not "mostly free". Freedom. And.... the necessary reflection - Responsibility. |
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do you see the irony how some were against a cop wearing a nijab , but think anyone should be able to wear body armor ?
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http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...opfacepalm.jpg How about we read the legislation and understand what this is all about? :bad_boys_20: This legislation was passed by the Steady Eddie government back in 2010. The Red Queen pushed it through royal proclamation. The Body Armour Control Regulation, Alta Reg 32/2012 needs to be viewed to understand the details. I'll see if I can find it. Body Armour Control Act, SA 2010, c B-4.8 http://www.canlii.org/en/ab/laws/sta...0-c-b-4.8.html Quote:
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Armour vests would be terrible at protecting you from bee stings. This is kind of a silly argument you put forth. Armour vests are for protection of bullets and bomb fragments. And depending on the vest, possibly knives. Does the average joe need protection from any of these things here in Canada? What are you thoughts on hunting draws? Or do you think you should be able to hunt anything at any time? From your line of logic, you should be angry with hunting laws. They are restrictive too. All this law is trying to do is limit the number of proper body armour from the open market. |
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Because BC is doing it its okay? Do you like the current gun laws? Why is this any different? You cannot use a pistol outside of a range. you cannot own a taser for protection. You can't even have pepper spray or mace for protection. Rules Rules Rules What the HELL are YOU fighting for in kabul? And here i thought Canada was a free country. Not that i need it for anything but bears,but why restrict the law abiding people again. If youy want it should be no problem.:angry3: QUOTE=rwm1273;1348214]I don't see it that way. Nothing is being banned. Here is BC's law. Alberta wants to go to something similar. Part 1 — Possession of Body Armour Prohibition on possession of body armour 2 (1) In this section: "armoured car guard" means an individual who performs the work of, or provides any aspect of the services provided by, an armoured car guard service, as defined in the Security Services Act; "private investigator" has the same meaning as in the Security Services Act; "security consultant" has the same meaning as in the Security Services Act; "security guard" means an individual who performs the work of, or provides any aspect of the services provided by, a security guard service, as defined in the Security Services Act. (2) A person must not possess body armour except under the authority of a valid body armour permit issued in the person's name. (3) Subsection (2) does not apply to a person who (a) holds a valid security worker licence authorizing the person to perform the work of (i) an armoured car guard, (ii) a private investigator, (iii) a security consultant, (iv) a security guard, or (v) a body armour salesperson, while the person is in the course of employment under the security worker licence, (b) holds a valid security business licence for a security business described in paragraph (a), (c), (d), (e), (f) or (g) of the definition of "security business" in the Security Services Act, while the person is in the course of employment in relation to the security business licence, or (c) is exempt under the regulations.[/QUOTE] |
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1. A total ban on Flamethrower parts. 2. Permits to own propane tanks. Those things can explode. 3. Permits to own a chainsaw. Obvious, no? 4. Governors on all vehicles to limit speeds to 100 kph, tops. Except only ambulances and police cars. I'm off to bed. Feel free to add another 500 items to this "all the law is trying to do is prevent crime" list. |
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I've stated my opinion, everyone else has stated theirs. To each their own. You know what they say about opinions! Not gonna argue. I'll just add that I do agree, having to pay a yearly fee is BS though. |
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If you can put forth a good reason to need to wear body armour when fishing, then you will be issued a permit. There is no ban on body armour. |
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:party0052:Maybe this is why we have plastic cars???:sHa_shakeshout:
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I better register my chainmail meat cutting glove....
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I wonder how many people that are defending this new legislation were in favor of the long gun registry? In each case the legislation was enacted under the guise of protecting Canadians, yet neither legislation will accomplish that.
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RWM; your impression that it is not a ban that they are presenting; but a restriction. I and I bet a few other believe that it's merely a ban by any other name. Take for instance the liberties that the Provincial Chief Firearms Officers take in interpreting their responsibilities; these people create rules where none existed, or amend them to their liking after the fact. It'll be at least as difficult to get as a wilderness carry permit. I would suggest that they include all range officers, gun store employees and bank employees on that list as well. 7-11 night shift staff, the list goes on. Provide me with a list of all shooting victim occupations or even simply what they were doing when they were shot and that will be the start of the list of people who qualify for a body armor permit. Heck, I think my restricted PAL should qualify me, as it proves I've not got a violent criminal history.
It's a ban by any other name, and yet another government office creating office space overhead, salaries, utilities, pension costs, etc, etc. And take a wild guess who foots the bill when the 'user pay' fee doesn't quite cover this surely hyper-efficient departments costs? |
This is the silliest, most inept and poorly conceived legislation I've ever heard proposed in Canada.
Whether I want to purchase a life-size blow-up doll of Worf from Star Trek, or body armour or silver horns to embed in my skull, it is none of the government's business. It does not matter why I have a Klingon fetish, a desire to look like a horned bovine or a hankering to be bullet proof. None of those acts infringe upon the rights of another citizen, nor do they have the potential to harm others, intentionally or inadvertently. Moreover, not only can criminals order online, but that is likely the precise route they would take – other than the black market which will only be increased if this is passed. Honestly, this is in fact worse than the gun registry because at least with that, all you needed to do was record the purchase. This means asking for permission! This is not only an infringement on freedom, but an assault on our intelligence. |
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I don't think I am really defending this piece of legislation, but merely saying that it won't affect me. I have a reason to own body armour. I just don't have a reason to wear it here. The $50 permit is just a way to recover administration costs. Would I be happier if there was no law. Yes I would. I don't see a reason for the government to bring forth a bill like this, but I'm not a police officer. Perhaps some LEOs can chime in with their thoughts? |
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You want to expand on the doll? Pics?:scared0018: |
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Even a FREE lawyer could get anyone off of charges from this act. :sHa_sarcasticlol: Just look at all the exemptions in the Act and the Regulations. BODY ARMOUR CONTROL REGULATION http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/o.../2012_065.html Quote:
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what is wrong with the gang bangers wearing body armor to protect themselves ? really . it is a passive way for them to protect themselves . what if they install bullet proof glass on there car , and plate the doors , why should that be illegal ? is it ? should it be ? if the gangs had to be CORE safety compliant you bet they would be forced to wear it . haha |
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Further to this, If you tried to purchase body armour on line, there is a good chance it would be stopped at the border by customs, and you would be contacted about it. |
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This law won't effect me, or many forum members either, for the reason in bold below, but I am still against it in principle, because it infringes on peoples freedoms for no valid reason.
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