here is what i mean....and a look at how the square works if you have never seen it.
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I doubt you have another picture of this ram so I won't ask but if that was the representative picture of this animal my comments stand. |
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If not we as hunters have to be critical of both parties involved. Excitement, pride and hard work doesn't make a difference if a mistake was made by harvesting this ram. |
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209, thanks for your input from AWS. It sure would be nice to have SRD put that in writing now. Really guys, what is the point to this style of discussion happening here? (or the lack of style) Now, back to your regularly programmed sheep show......:rolleye2: |
OK this sheep topic in Alberta seems to be very heated! Maybe i dont want any part of this, I think ill just wait to hunt sheep when i book a dall hunt up north. !!! thanks for the info
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Hey, 7mmremmag, that would be exactly what some folks are aiming for. Create enough sh1t and sheephunters will leave the mountain. Anything to get folks to quit enjoying the resource so they will have greater chances at bigger rams for clients.
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I'm flabbergasted by the hand wringing old ladies that post here! You gals get your way and every sheep hunter will have to have a guide with him to make the call on the legality of a sheep. Cripes! What ever happen to being a man, standing straight and tall, learning what you need to do the job and going out and doing it. If today's mother hen government has taught us anything it is there is nothing that is idiot proof. Evolution just provides a better idiot.
Tonto and Hagar I love the volunteer course, Vin told you to put up or shut up on that one. Let us know how it goes will ya? |
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Well no matter how things go im sure we will see 209 and Vin out in the mountains pounding them hills for many days on end just like they do every year!
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Was a guy last fall in the hummingbird that had the same sort of deal. Ran into a couple guys out there and they all joined up and hunted together. He was inexperienced and they got on a ram and they judged it, he shot it and when he registered it he was informed it was to short. Crappy deal for sure. Always a few short rams every year. Some by lack of knowledge due to not having anyone to show them the ropes, some by mistake, some by guys that just dont really care to learn what they need. I dont, know I think some sort of education would help, sure couldnt hurt. Some guys obviously think that everything that happens out there now(sheep and legality wise) is acceptable and shouldnt be improved on. But is not the majorities opinion!!!!! |
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You can use any amount or complexity of words to describe things and I guess that makes you better and smarter, as im just a high school drop out rig pig but you come on out in the mountains and we will see who has more knowledge out there. Oh and bring your geometry!!!!!!!!!!! You can come also 209 and we can go up in your neck of the woods and look for all them just reaching legal 8.5 year old rams!!! :lol: |
At this point I am unwilling to give up any of my hunting privileges, tags or opportunity especially when we cannot identify a problem. I am dead against giving up hunting opportunity to those who do not have the best interest of Alberta hunters and healthy sheep populations in mind. Managing for healthy wildlife and hunter opportunity is my priority and should be the priority of any group deciding the fate of sheep hunting in Alberta.
If there truly is a population problem then we must take the appropriate steps to mend the problem. Please identify a problem first. |
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Well said Cam. |
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And if residents must give up opportunity, then an equal and consistent approach must be applied to the outfitters who maintain a higher success rate on harvesting sheep than residents do. Cutting allocations and putting all non-residents on draw would be a place to start, as I have no doubt these special interest groups want to participate in helping our sheep as much as we do:rolleyes:. |
No one has stated that there is a huge problem but when a guy see's places like 40 mile mountain and the mountain above harrison flats on the clearwater, the ridges in the hummingbird and canary creek, and open grassy hills above sick mans camp on the south ram , the hills behind the ranch buildings at the ya ha or the bluffs in Smith creek on the blackstone that used to hold winter populations of hundreds and are now almost void during the winter, it worries me. Maybe we are jumping the gun but to do nothing I dont beleive isnt right either.
Sure maybe a wait period isnt the best idea but most of the guys here are just trying to come up with ideas that will least affect hunters(as no one wants a draw or once in a lifetime hunt)and still possibly help our sheep herds out. We know a change is coming in the near future and that is unavoidable so why not work to minimize the change as best we can. And maybe more sheep hunters or hunters in general that say the big problem out there is wolves and predators should do their part and help control this, not just sit around and complain that the government wont do anything about it! I know a few guys on here would like if I would just stop posting but sheep are my life. I put more time in the off season looking at sheep than most ever put in hunting them. I know what I know. Maybe it isnt layden with 5 syllable words and has many spelling errors and hasnt been backed by any outdoor writers or biologist( they for sure know there animals but just like anything can be manipulated with funding so are usually favering a certain direction to keep that funding coming) but its my opinion on may hundreds of hours per year of being out there not googling it on these things. So like me or hate me I aint gunna slow down on this topic for anyone! No matter how threatning the couple PM's are. SG |
SG.. Sometimes it's not what you say.. It's how you say it.
You are a poor ambassador for your fraternity. I suggest more leg work and less PR. Perhaps that is where your skills and experience would be appreciated. Jamie BTW.. Sorry if you have gotten some PM's you dont like. Personaly I like to do my stuff in public. |
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